Log in

View Full Version : Is Deana a bully?


Pages : 1 [2]

TIGHAMADAN
06-08-2012, 05:30 PM
I think she is a psychic sniper and very clever psychological bully.

BigBrotherfan4ever
06-08-2012, 05:36 PM
She not a bully but can be very mulitive, incentive & sleecket at times.

rocket
06-08-2012, 05:37 PM
Definately not a bully,,,the biggest bully went with his reward...
She is just giving back what she has had to endure these last few weeks,,,
Why shouldn't she take the p***...thoroughly enjoyed it !!!!

pcro
06-08-2012, 05:38 PM
I like Deanna and don't think it was bullying. But jfc, some of the more over wrought Deanna fans are doing my head in. Even bringing up a potential criticism of her now causes an avalance of over defensive ****e.

Vanessa
06-08-2012, 05:39 PM
I like Deanna and don't think it was bullying. But jfc, some of the more over wrought Deanna fans are doing my head in. Even bringing up a potential criticism of her now causes an avalance of over defensive ****e.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

sampvt
06-08-2012, 05:44 PM
Erm she quite clearly was drunk... And hardly the same thing as punching someone in face :joker:

As for the bully bit, don't be ridiculous... Since when was winding someone up in a jovial way bullying?!? :conf:

Besides if it had happened in reverse & Deana didn't win the money you would be pi**ing your pants at someone ribbing her about it! :xyxwave:

Your post is contradictory....you say she was clearly winding someone up with a calculated jovial trait. These my friend are actions that need to be planned and executed. If she was drunk as you say.....DRUNKS DONT PLAN NOR DO THEY EXECUTE THOSE PLANS WITH PRECISSION.. As I said, your post is moot. She knew what she was doing and did it well. All part of her push for the line. Keep the soldiers close and destroy the minor leaguers with sacasm. Both traits of a bully or at worst a passive aggressive on a mission.

Vanessa
06-08-2012, 05:45 PM
Your post is contradictory....you say she was clearly winding someone up with a calculated jovial trait. These my friend are actions that need to be planned and executed. If she was drunk as you say.....DRUNKS DONT PLAN NOR DO THEY EXECUTE THOSE PLANS WITH PRECISSION.. As I said, your post is moot. She knew what she was doing and did it well. All part of her push for the line. Keep the soldiers close and destroy the minor leaguers with sacasm. Both traits of a bully or at worst a passive aggressive on a mission.

I see Deana as passive aggressive for sure. She loves to stir up trouble! :hugesmile:

Kizzy
06-08-2012, 06:07 PM
145 people can't be wrong....hahaha

InOne
06-08-2012, 07:01 PM
They're very wrong.

Josy
06-08-2012, 07:08 PM
Not a bully just an inconsiderate bitch.

Beso
06-08-2012, 07:11 PM
The result of the poll will give you your answer to your ridiculous question.

jet
06-08-2012, 07:31 PM
Not a bully just an inconsiderate bitch.

Yes, and she admits herself that she likes to annoy people on purpose. Not a nice trait.

Nedusa
06-08-2012, 08:07 PM
I think Deana needs to reign in the attitude of late, she might be thinking that she can show her more boisterous side and say it like she she's it. But I for one am not liking too much what I'm seeing. Where was her sensitive side when she mercilessly wound Luke S up re the white room. Why did snap so quickly at *******igh re the smoke in the Kitchen.

Is this the new aggressive bitchy Deana ? Is this her true nature coming out , is this why she was expelled from 4 schools.

This is not a good game plan from Deana , she threatens to undermine the last 9 weeks by carrying on acting like this. Needs to get a grip ..... Fast. !!!

Vanessa
06-08-2012, 08:10 PM
Not a bully just an inconsiderate bitch.

:thumbs:

slickster24
06-08-2012, 08:25 PM
how was what she was doing bullying?

chuff me dizzy
06-08-2012, 09:20 PM
Naa then folks ,who was it who claimed she was drunk ? hands up, dont be shy :shocked::shocked::shocked: She was NOT drunk, just as i said, she had 2 (TWO) small ,cocktails ,and as serious BB fans know bb never make the drink strong enough for anyone to get rat arsed

Vanessa
06-08-2012, 09:22 PM
Naa then folks ,who was it who claimed she was drunk ? hands up, dont be shy :shocked::shocked::shocked: She was NOT drunk, just as i said, she had 2 (TWO) small ,cocktails ,and as serious BB fans know bb never make the drink strong enough for anyone to get rat arsed

She must be a lightweight! Arron said don't give her more to drink! She can't handle it! :joker:

chuff me dizzy
06-08-2012, 09:22 PM
I think Deana needs to reign in the attitude of late, she might be thinking that she can show her more boisterous side and say it like she she's it. But I for one am not liking too much what I'm seeing. Where was her sensitive side when she mercilessly wound Luke S up re the white room. Why did snap so quickly at *******igh re the smoke in the Kitchen.

Is this the new aggressive bitchy Deana ? Is this her true nature coming out , is this why she was expelled from 4 schools.

This is not a good game plan from Deana , she threatens to undermine the last 9 weeks by carrying on acting like this. Needs to get a grip ..... Fast. !!!

Its too late ,thank God, she cannot get out of the massive hole she dug

InOne
06-08-2012, 09:34 PM
I think Deana needs to reign in the attitude of late, she might be thinking that she can show her more boisterous side and say it like she she's it. But I for one am not liking too much what I'm seeing. Where was her sensitive side when she mercilessly wound Luke S up re the white room. Why did snap so quickly at *******igh re the smoke in the Kitchen.

Is this the new aggressive bitchy Deana ? Is this her true nature coming out , is this why she was expelled from 4 schools.

This is not a good game plan from Deana , she threatens to undermine the last 9 weeks by carrying on acting like this. Needs to get a grip ..... Fast. !!!

It most likely is her true nature. She's hit the popular HM curse and starting to come across as terribly smug. It was what happened to Freddie BB10, and he didn't last long after that.

chuff me dizzy
06-08-2012, 09:41 PM
It most likely is her true nature. She's hit the popular HM curse and starting to come across as terribly smug. It was what happened to Freddie BB10, and he didn't last long after that.

I saw THIS what everyone is just latching onto on night ONE

sampvt
06-08-2012, 09:52 PM
even the BBBOTS phyco says she is slipping and she dosent like her. Strange how a handfull of rose tints still cant see her for what she is eh.

Munchkins
06-08-2012, 09:54 PM
even the BBBOTS phyco says she is slipping and she dosent like her. Strange how a handfull of rose tints still cant see her for what she is eh.

Funny how unlike other Deana haters, who i respect, you still can't seem to fathom that others have different opinions, instead heralding yours as the trut

MrWong
06-08-2012, 09:56 PM
Funny how unlike other Deana haters, who i respect, you still can't seem to fathom that others have different opinions, instead heralding yours as the trut

Nicely put :thumbs:

erinp5
06-08-2012, 10:51 PM
Nope

sampvt
06-08-2012, 10:53 PM
Funny how unlike other Deana haters, who i respect, you still can't seem to fathom that others have different opinions, instead heralding yours as the trut


If the cap fits ????????

Scotty07
06-08-2012, 11:30 PM
:conf2::laugh2: If there were ever any bullies in that house, then take your pick from any of the nine insiders.:idc:

jet
06-08-2012, 11:54 PM
It was Scott's turn today to be targeted and Deana tried to sway Adam and Luke A against him (noms coming up!) She sits there talking behind his back about HIS talking behind the 'soldiers' backs - and he doesn't. I hope neither of them fell for it.
Meanwhile Scott sticks up for her and likely gets nominated for doing so. So unfair.
Her 'floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee' taunt at Scott was the last straw for me. The way she threw back her head and laughed - she looked almost evil. I have always stopped short at saying she is a bully. But now I think she is a psychological and emotional bully, yes. A truly nasty and controlling woman.

InOne
07-08-2012, 12:36 AM
More and more people are seeing sense. Well done jet, spot on.

MrWong
07-08-2012, 09:10 AM
More and more people are seeing sense. Well done jet, spot on.

Repeating this over and over doesn't make it true. :spin:

Vanessa
07-08-2012, 09:13 AM
It was Scott's turn today to be targeted and Deana tried to sway Adam and Luke A against him (noms coming up!) She sits there talking behind his back about HIS talking behind the 'soldiers' backs - and he doesn't. I hope neither of them fell for it.
Meanwhile Scott sticks up for her and likely gets nominated for doing so. So unfair.
Her 'floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee' taunt at Scott was the last straw for me. The way she threw back her head and laughed - she looked almost evil. I have always stopped short at saying she is a bully. But now I think she is a psychological and emotional bully, yes. A truly nasty and controlling woman.

She's so paranoid now! She thinks everyone is out to get her! Including poor Scott, who has never taken sides. :nono:

chuff me dizzy
07-08-2012, 09:19 AM
It was Scott's turn today to be targeted and Deana tried to sway Adam and Luke A against him (noms coming up!) She sits there talking behind his back about HIS talking behind the 'soldiers' backs - and he doesn't. I hope neither of them fell for it.
Meanwhile Scott sticks up for her and likely gets nominated for doing so. So unfair.
Her 'floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee' taunt at Scott was the last straw for me. The way she threw back her head and laughed - she looked almost evil. I have always stopped short at saying she is a bully. But now I think she is a psychological and emotional bully, yes. A truly nasty and controlling woman.

EXCELLENT post and all true ,she is truly evil ,but using God to make out shes this God fearing ,holier than thou person, Glad Gods ignored her again this week ,she ,and her fans make out shes this straight talking,honest person, but shes far from that, shes sneaky, she bitchy and shes cruel

MrWong
07-08-2012, 09:28 AM
I think anytime i see any bull**** about Deana i'm going to vote to save.

Words like 'bully' 'it' 'evil' will count towards Deana topping the vote this week.

Deana FTW! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

jet
07-08-2012, 09:38 AM
I think anytime i see any bull**** about Deana i'm going to vote to save.

Words like 'bully' 'it' 'evil' will count towards Deana topping the vote this week.

Deana FTW! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

More fool you :joker:

chuff me dizzy
07-08-2012, 09:42 AM
It was Scott's turn today to be targeted and Deana tried to sway Adam and Luke A against him (noms coming up!) She sits there talking behind his back about HIS talking behind the 'soldiers' backs - and he doesn't. I hope neither of them fell for it.
Meanwhile Scott sticks up for her and likely gets nominated for doing so. So unfair.
Her 'floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee' taunt at Scott was the last straw for me. The way she threw back her head and laughed - she looked almost evil. I have always stopped short at saying she is a bully. But now I think she is a psychological and emotional bully, yes. A truly nasty and controlling woman.

I wonder if this was what she got into trouble for? it was clear she was trying to get Luke,Adam to nominate Scott

Vanessa
07-08-2012, 09:43 AM
I wonder if this was what she got into trouble for? it was clear she was trying to get Luke,Adam to nominate Scott

I bet Deana nominated Scott thinking he was plotting against her. :bored:

chuff me dizzy
07-08-2012, 09:45 AM
I bet Deana nominated Scott thinking he was plotting against her. :bored:

Ive looked for video or why she was banned from party last night, cannot find it ,but chance it was the way she was shoving Scott down their necks

Vanessa
07-08-2012, 09:46 AM
Ive looked for video or why she was banned from party last night, cannot find it ,but chance it was the way she was shoving Scott down their necks

And Scott has done nothing but defend her. She should have confronted him about it instead of jumping to conclusions. :nono:

chuff me dizzy
07-08-2012, 09:52 AM
And Scott has done nothing but defend her. She should have confronted him about it instead of jumping to conclusions. :nono:

She a down and out backstabber, this is how she gets her kicks

Beso
07-08-2012, 09:52 AM
It was Scott's turn today to be targeted and Deana tried to sway Adam and Luke A against him (noms coming up!) She sits there talking behind his back about HIS talking behind the 'soldiers' backs - and he doesn't. I hope neither of them fell for it.
Meanwhile Scott sticks up for her and likely gets nominated for doing so. So unfair.
Her 'floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee' taunt at Scott was the last straw for me. The way she threw back her head and laughed - she looked almost evil. I have always stopped short at saying she is a bully. But now I think she is a psychological and emotional bully, yes. A truly nasty and controlling woman.

How ridiculous.

What do people see when they watch this programme, didn't you here Scott laugh when she said it!1 They both enjoyed the joke and it was a great play on words, and probably nailed Scotts gameplan to a T.

Also you seem to have miraculously forgotten that Luke A also said that he felt the same about Scott as Deana did and even went on and took the whole Scott thing to another level by narrating a story about Scott that made him think this way.

But hey ho, some people are soooooooooooooooo desperate and scared of the deana popularity that they would use any old crap against her.:joker:

MrWong
07-08-2012, 09:52 AM
And Scott has done nothing but defend her. She should have confronted him about it instead of jumping to conclusions. :nono:

:suspect: Lies.

I like Scott as a hm but he has been nasty about Deana on a number of occasions.

MrWong
07-08-2012, 09:54 AM
How ridiculous.

What do people see when they watch this programme, didn't you here Scott laugh when she said it!1 They both enjoyed the joke and it was a great play on words, and probably nailed Scotts gameplan to a T.

Also you seem to have miraculously forgotten that Luke A also said that he felt the same about Scott as Deana did and even went on and took the whole Scott thing to another level by narrating a story about Scott that made him think this way.

But hey ho, some people are soooooooooooooooo desperate and scared of the deana popularity that they would use any old crap against her.:joker:

Well said. Memories of a goldfish on here. Only Deana is bad :sleep::sleep::sleep:

Kizzy
07-08-2012, 09:55 AM
To be fair its not like he has never slated deana before he called her 'it' and 'slappable'during one of his bitchy rants, which he got into bother for.......no wonder he darn't say a word against her now haha.

chuff me dizzy
07-08-2012, 09:59 AM
To be fair its not like he has never slated deana before he called her 'it' and 'slappable'during one of his bitchy rants, which he got into bother for.......no wonder he darn't say a word against her now haha.

I doubt he"darent" :shocked:

MrWong
07-08-2012, 10:03 AM
So in conclusion a feeble 16.83% think she's a bully. :joker:

mirak_eel
07-08-2012, 10:05 AM
Makes me laugh how she does one thing out of turn, and everybody jumps on it and tries to make out she's a bully. #desperation

Beso
07-08-2012, 10:06 AM
so in conclusion a feeble 16.83% think she's a bully. :joker:

3/4 of them will be multi's

jet
07-08-2012, 10:16 AM
How ridiculous.

What do people see when they watch this programme, didn't you here Scott laugh when she said it!1 They both enjoyed the joke and it was a great play on words, and probably nailed Scotts gameplan to a T.

Also you seem to have miraculously forgotten that Luke A also said that he felt the same about Scott as Deana did and even went on and took the whole Scott thing to another level by narrating a story about Scott that made him think this way.

But hey ho, some people are soooooooooooooooo desperate and scared of the deana popularity that they would use any old crap against her.:joker:

So you think Scott laughed and enjoyed the taunt against him? You need to watch the clip again and this time concentrate on what was actually going on there. Scott gives a nervous laugh immediately after the taunt and then the programme abruptly ends - you make it sound like they were having a jolly good time together when in fact Deana was grilling him in her usual 'I demand an answer' voice.
Luke A didn't bring the subject up - Deana did when she accused Scott of talking behind their backs (as she was doing just THAT) and at one point Luke said he wasn't sure if that was true.
You really need to say what you see and not what you want to see. :joker:

chuff me dizzy
07-08-2012, 10:20 AM
So you think Scott laughed and enjoyed the taunt against him? You need to watch the clip again and this time concentrate on what was actually going on there. Scott gives a nervous laugh immediately after the taunt and then the programme abruptly ends - you make it sound like they were having a jolly good time together when in fact Deana was grilling him in her usual 'I demand an answer' voice.
Luke A didn't bring the subject up - Deana did when she accused Scott of talking behind their backs (as she was doing just THAT) and at one point Luke said he wasn't sure if that was true.
You really need to say what you see and not what you want to see. :joker:

This is how i saw it too

InOne
07-08-2012, 10:47 AM
It's was definitely not a bit of banter between friends, I think anyone could see that. Deana has a habit of turning situations VERY awkward.

Niamh.
07-08-2012, 10:51 AM
eh no.

InOne
07-08-2012, 10:04 PM
Still taunting Luke S tonight I see :pipe:

sofialady
07-08-2012, 10:48 PM
So you think Scott laughed and enjoyed the taunt against him? You need to watch the clip again and this time concentrate on what was actually going on there. Scott gives a nervous laugh immediately after the taunt and then the programme abruptly ends - you make it sound like they were having a jolly good time together when in fact Deana was grilling him in her usual 'I demand an answer' voice.
Luke A didn't bring the subject up - Deana did when she accused Scott of talking behind their backs (as she was doing just THAT) and at one point Luke said he wasn't sure if that was true.
You really need to say what you see and not what you want to see. :joker:

So basically, any confrontational comment one makes equals bullying?

Personally don't think Scott even got what Deana was saying. Let alone ''enjoyed the taunt against him''.

chuff me dizzy
07-08-2012, 10:52 PM
Still taunting Luke S tonight I see :pipe:

Im SO glad shes decided to show her true colours, its cost her dear

Vanessa
07-08-2012, 10:55 PM
On tonight show Deana was a disgrace. Goading Luke S for fun! It's wrong and quite frankly it makes me uncomfortable. She needs to stop! :nono:

chuff me dizzy
07-08-2012, 11:02 PM
On tonight show Deana was a disgrace. Goading Luke S for fun! It's wrong and quite frankly it makes me uncomfortable. She needs to stop! :nono:

NO she cannot stop ,this is HER this is what I saw on night one

JTM45
07-08-2012, 11:07 PM
See you all on final night for Deana's crowning as winner of BB13.
Can't wait!!!!!:dance::dance::dance:

realitytvsux
07-08-2012, 11:48 PM
On tonight show Deana was a disgrace. Goading Luke S for fun! It's wrong and quite frankly it makes me uncomfortable. She needs to stop! :nono:

Luke is is going to feel a whole lot worse when he gets out and sees clips of his mate Connor taking the piss out of the way he shafted him.

jet
08-08-2012, 12:03 AM
Deana is now being a bully. It was unforgivable to continue taunting Luke S in tonight's HL's. Apart from Conor, no one has done anything like that to her (and she doesn't know what Conor said anyway.) No one has set out on a campaign against her to hurt and humiliate her like that. I don't know how Luke S keeps his cool. I didn't like him before, but my goodness I admire his restraint. She is a hateful human being.
I'm glad she was called out as a bully on BOTS.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 12:39 AM
Deana is now being a bully. It was unforgivable to continue taunting Luke S in tonight's HL's. Apart from Conor, no one has done anything like that to her (and she doesn't know what Conor said anyway.) No one has set out on a campaign against her to hurt and humiliate her like that. I don't know how Luke S keeps his cool. I didn't like him before, but my goodness I admire his restraint. She is a hateful human being.
I'm glad she was called out as a bully on BOTS.

Tonight show changed everything for me. She acted like a bully. I hope she's going to stop. It's ruining the show for me! :(

jet
08-08-2012, 12:57 AM
Tonight show changed everything for me. She acted like a bully. I hope she's going to stop. It's ruining the show for me! :(

It's ruining it for me too. After I watched her taunting him the first time when he said 'I can't wait to nominate you' and she later did it again it front of others, my stomach was actually in knots. This time she was stone cold sober. She should be given a warning. Ashleigh was given a warning for being 'sarcastic'!

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 12:59 AM
It's ruining it for me too. After I watched her taunting him the first time when he said 'I can't wait to nominate you' and she later did it again it front of others, my stomach was actually in knots. This time she was stone cold sober. She should be given a warning. Ashleigh was given a warning for being 'sarcastic'!

Why can't she just enjoy the experience? Everything is a war with her. :shrug:

the truth
08-08-2012, 01:39 AM
its pretty sad viewing now

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 01:41 AM
its pretty sad viewing now

Deana has become the villain now! :hugesmile:

jet
08-08-2012, 01:41 AM
its pretty sad viewing now

It sure is. 'Entertainment' it is not.

jet
08-08-2012, 01:43 AM
Why can't she just enjoy the experience? Everything is a war with her. :shrug:

It's ruining the show. :sad:

the truth
08-08-2012, 01:52 AM
did you actually see what she said the moment he left to go to the garden? for the 3rd day in a row she was badgering him for no reason, he leaves the room and she drops her guise of it being harmless fun, to saying under her breathm why dont you just fff offf.....light hearted banter? spur of the moment silly comment in her drink? nope. this is who she is and its gone on for a long time now. im gutted because myself and lots of us fell for it in the early days....its so disappointing

toronto_matt
08-08-2012, 01:56 AM
your joking right

she WAS just trying to enjoy the show, for 8 plus weeks!!!! but she got put down and stomped on by pretty much everyone. oh but wait! now shes standing up for herself, oh no, we cant have that now can we!

the truth
08-08-2012, 02:01 AM
your joking right

she WAS just trying to enjoy the show, for 8 plus weeks!!!! but she got put down and stomped on by pretty much everyone. oh but wait! now shes standing up for herself, oh no, we cant have that now can we!

everyone can stand up for themselves, thats fine, this is nothing to do with standing up for onself. this is going out seeking to offend and upset and mock and argue with people just for the sake of it....in the past few days shes tried to make sara look an idiot, shes gone after scott a few times and luke s all the time, shes also tried to get to adam but failed. her behaviour is sad.

jet
08-08-2012, 02:08 AM
your joking right

she WAS just trying to enjoy the show, for 8 plus weeks!!!! but she got put down and stomped on by pretty much everyone. oh but wait! now shes standing up for herself, oh no, we cant have that now can we!

She's now standing up for herself? Nonsense!
There is no -one in the house now who is bothering her in the slightest - she is instigating all the aggro!

jyunga
08-08-2012, 02:11 AM
I've loved Deana this whole show and she's really turning me off lately. She has no clue when to stop her jokes. Calling Luke S Charlie was funny ****... but dragging it out and repeating over and over "I want the ticket Charlie" 5 or 6 times just makes it stupid and awkward. It even looked like the others found it awkward. She's being really stupid since Conor left. It's annoying me.

jet
08-08-2012, 02:20 AM
I've loved Deana this whole show and she's really turning me off lately. She has no clue when to stop her jokes. Calling Luke S Charlie was funny ****... but dragging it out and repeating over and over "I want the ticket Charlie" 5 or 6 times just makes it stupid and awkward. It even looked like the others found it awkward. She's being really stupid since Conor left. It's annoying me.

It's nice that you admit that she's wrong. Not many Deana fans can bring themselves to do that. :hug:

sampvt
08-08-2012, 02:28 AM
your joking right

she WAS just trying to enjoy the show, for 8 plus weeks!!!! but she got put down and stomped on by pretty much everyone. oh but wait! now shes standing up for herself, oh no, we cant have that now can we!

Matt you are a little confused mate. For the first 8 weeks she played the victim so well that she got a following, but now she has no reason to play that game as her main protagonists are gone.

Her tact now is to come accross as a strong independant woman but she has badly underestimated how much the public sees between her as strong and a bully. She thinks her spatts with Luke s, scott and Luke a will be percieved by us as a good on you girl type of act but she has miscalculated and its backfired.

The other forums are reporting swings away from her, the show tonight gave her a bad edit, probably because they couldnt give her a good one, her praying has upset some supporters and the sheer volume of her negativity and foul language is adding to her demise.

People that didnt like her before are hating her now and people that would have given her 10 votes before might give her a couple now. In short, all of a sudden she has gone from victim to aggressor and we, as a nation, hate aggressive women and have no problems turning and voting accordingly. If Scott gets a good vote this week, she might go friday. Being aggressive or cocksure will be her downfall.

After 8 weeks in there, she is beginning to loose the plot and we are seeing the biggest self destructive meltdown in BB history and BB know it (therein lies a story folks and these producers wont miss it) Hopefully 2 more bad days and shes toast.

MrWong
08-08-2012, 08:31 AM
Deana is now being a bully. It was unforgivable to continue taunting Luke S in tonight's HL's. Apart from Conor, no one has done anything like that to her (and she doesn't know what Conor said anyway.) No one has set out on a campaign against her to hurt and humiliate her like that. I don't know how Luke S keeps his cool. I didn't like him before, but my goodness I admire his restraint. She is a hateful human being.
I'm glad she was called out as a bully on BOTS.

There was no 'campaign' She was winding the idiot up.

Words like 'humiliate' and 'hateful' do not match what Deana did and using such hyperbolic words does no favours for the credibility of your post.

Who called her a bully?

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 08:34 AM
Matt you are a little confused mate. For the first 8 weeks she played the victim so well that she got a following, but now she has no reason to play that game as her main protagonists are gone.

Her tact now is to come accross as a strong independant woman but she has badly underestimated how much the public sees between her as strong and a bully. She thinks her spatts with Luke s, scott and Luke a will be percieved by us as a good on you girl type of act but she has miscalculated and its backfired.

The other forums are reporting swings away from her, the show tonight gave her a bad edit, probably because they couldnt give her a good one, her praying has upset some supporters and the sheer volume of her negativity and foul language is adding to her demise.

People that didnt like her before are hating her now and people that would have given her 10 votes before might give her a couple now. In short, all of a sudden she has gone from victim to aggressor and we, as a nation, hate aggressive women and have no problems turning and voting accordingly. If Scott gets a good vote this week, she might go friday. Being aggressive or cocksure will be her downfall.

After 8 weeks in there, she is beginning to loose the plot and we are seeing the biggest self destructive meltdown in BB history and BB know it (therein lies a story folks and these producers wont miss it) Hopefully 2 more bad days and shes toast.

Even if she survives she won't win now. The public hates arrogance. Luke A has got it in the bag now! :)

MrWong
08-08-2012, 08:37 AM
Matt you are a little confused mate. For the first 8 weeks she played the victim so well that she got a following, but now she has no reason to play that game as her main protagonists are gone.

Her tact now is to come accross as a strong independant woman but she has badly underestimated how much the public sees between her as strong and a bully. She thinks her spatts with Luke s, scott and Luke a will be percieved by us as a good on you girl type of act but she has miscalculated and its backfired.

The other forums are reporting swings away from her, the show tonight gave her a bad edit, probably because they couldnt give her a good one, her praying has upset some supporters and the sheer volume of her negativity and foul language is adding to her demise.

People that didnt like her before are hating her now and people that would have given her 10 votes before might give her a couple now. In short, all of a sudden she has gone from victim to aggressor and we, as a nation, hate aggressive women and have no problems turning and voting accordingly. If Scott gets a good vote this week, she might go friday. Being aggressive or cocksure will be her downfall.

After 8 weeks in there, she is beginning to loose the plot and we are seeing the biggest self destructive meltdown in BB history and BB know it (therein lies a story folks and these producers wont miss it) Hopefully 2 more bad days and shes toast.

What 'other' forums? Link please.

Unless they are the 'other' forums you mentioned the other day. The ones that were saying Deana was a gang member :joker: Then when you were asked for a link you declined to give one (because they don't exist)

joeysteele
08-08-2012, 08:54 AM
I don't see what she does as bullying, I say again, I wouldn't term anyone in there,past and present, as a bully, they all have done and said some unsavoury things but bullying no way.
What she is doing is really irritating though and not welcome either, rather like having a fly buzzing around you most of the time.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 08:56 AM
I don't see what she does as bullying, I say again, I wouldn't term anyone in there,past and present, as a bully, they all have done and said some unsavoury things but bullying no way.
What she is doing is really irritating though and not welcome either, rather like having a fly buzzing around you most of the time.

On last night show she came very close to it. She reminded me of those kids at school who pick on smaller ones.

joeysteele
08-08-2012, 09:01 AM
On last night show she came very close to it. She reminded me of those kids at school who pick on smaller ones.

True.
She went very close to crossing an acceptable line last night definately and this time she couldn't blame alcohol for it either.

AnnieK
08-08-2012, 09:02 AM
OMG I am now seeing the full force of the Deana lovers not being able to take any word of critism of their chosen one. I am neither a supporter nor hater of Deana but I do feel her behaviour over the last few days has been completely hypocritical of everything she stood for and for what people admired her.

Her behaviour towards Luke S was by no means bullying as that word is over-used far too much on here - but neither was it particularly nice. Her language has descended inapporpriately into the gutter and she is no longer acting the lady she has protrayed herself as.

I think that people who were undecided on her before will swing away from her - I know I have and would like Adam to win now...

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 09:06 AM
OMG I am now seeing the full force of the Deana lovers not being able to take any word of critism of their chosen one. I am neither a supporter nor hater of Deana but I do feel her behaviour over the last few days has been completely hypocritical of everything she stood for and for what people admired her.

Her behaviour towards Luke S was by no means bullying as that word is over-used far too much on here - but neither was it particularly nice. Her language has descended inapporpriately into the gutter and she is no longer acting the lady she has protrayed herself as.

I think that people who were undecided on her before will swing away from her - I know I have and would like Adam to win now...

She's coming very close to it.

KingPrawn
08-08-2012, 09:10 AM
If you cannot take a bit of ribbing then what are doing in the Big Brother House?

Kizzy
08-08-2012, 09:14 AM
I thought she went a bit OTT last night, just a little like diane said on BOTS she seems a bit giddy and is just saying things because she can and no longer feels supressed?

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 09:15 AM
If you cannot take a bit of ribbing then what are doing in the Big Brother House?

The next day she was still going on about Charlie and the ticket. Calling him a robot. Trying to make him cry. That's not ribbing. It's goading.

AnnieK
08-08-2012, 09:16 AM
She's coming very close to it.

I do agree that she has come mighty close to crossing the acceptable line....

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 09:18 AM
I do agree that she has come mighty close to crossing the acceptable line....

Last night she went on and on, trying to get at Luke. The joke was only funny the first time. I bet tonight she's still talking about it! :bored:

Black Dagger
08-08-2012, 09:24 AM
I seem to be baffled at 37 members on here. :bored:

realitytvsux
08-08-2012, 09:25 AM
Most of the people who hate Deana will probably continue to do so. Most of the people who like her will probably continue to do so too. The reactions to her are so extreme that people's views seem really entrenched one way or the other. For that reason I think she still has a very good chance of winning.

AnnieK
08-08-2012, 09:26 AM
Last night she went on and on, trying to get at Luke. The joke was only funny the first time. I bet tonight she's still talking about it! :bored:

Oh god...if she is I will be switching off....she is driving me more and more mad as the days goes by (and before this week I really didn't feel much for her one way or the other) and I think I am liking her less because of the blind devotion to her on here from some members.... Just thankful that other people do see through her

sampvt
08-08-2012, 09:27 AM
She has decided that the public love her and she thinks they like her to be dominant. She brought girl power into it last week. Problem is she miscalculated how the public would percieve her. Her die hard fans are no longer confident, they are defensive and getting rude. That in itself shows how her support is slipping. If she gets another bad edit today, she could go on friday. One things for sure is she cant win it now, no way Jose.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 09:27 AM
Oh god...if she is I will be switching off....she is driving me more and more mad as the days goes by (and before this week I really didn't feel much for her one way or the other) and I think I am liking her less because of the blind devotion to her on here from some members.... Just thankful that other people do see through her

I hope tonight show is more fun. I'm fed up of watching Deana plotting. I want to see the housemates enjoying themselves. :(

Black Dagger
08-08-2012, 09:29 AM
She has decided that the public love her and she thinks they like her to be dominant. She brought girl power into it last week. Problem is she miscalculated how the public would percieve her. Her die hard fans are no longer confident, they are defensive and getting rude. That in itself shows how her support is slipping. If she gets another bad edit today, she could go on friday. One things for sure is she cant win it now, no way Jose.

Well I'm still confident she'll stay on Friday. :pipe:

And I only got rude with you because of how moronically you acted.

Black Dagger
08-08-2012, 09:29 AM
I hope tonight show is more fun. I'm fed up of watching Deana plotting. I want to see the housemates enjoying themselves. :(

Deana's been having fun at times and you said she was camera hogging, same as everybody else who doesn't like her. Make your mind up of what you want to see this series. :idc:

MrWong
08-08-2012, 09:33 AM
OMG I am now seeing the full force of the Deana lovers not being able to take any word of critism of their chosen one. I am neither a supporter nor hater of Deana but I do feel her behaviour over the last few days has been completely hypocritical of everything she stood for and for what people admired her.

Her behaviour towards Luke S was by no means bullying as that word is over-used far too much on here - but neither was it particularly nice. Her language has descended inapporpriately into the gutter and she is no longer acting the lady she has protrayed herself as.

I think that people who were undecided on her before will swing away from her - I know I have and would like Adam to win now...

Deana FTW! :elephant::elephant::elephant:

MrWong
08-08-2012, 09:35 AM
Most of the people who hate Deana will probably continue to do so. Most of the people who like her will probably continue to do so too. The reactions to her are so extreme that people's views seem really entrenched one way or the other. For that reason I think she still has a very good chance of winning.

It's the same few that's disliked Deana all series.

They must think we don't remember. :joker:

Jimrod
08-08-2012, 09:50 AM
I've realised from many forums on many topics that there is a real trend of behaviour from certain "types". They are generally hateful of something/someone, will twist the negative ideas in their head about that thing to be true facts, be abusive and harsh to anyone who disagrees and then when people bite back with similar language they come out with all this "you're being mean and rude" boo-hoo, woe is me crap. It's really common!

Some of them on here have obvious hate for Deana as she displays the behaviour they hate - they are the "insider" types. They want to bully and be aggressive but when someone stands up to them they get all hurt and cry. Sad.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 09:51 AM
I've realised from many forums on many topics that there is a real trend of behaviour from certain "types". They are generally hateful of something/someone, will twist the negative ideas in their head about that thing to be true facts, be abusive and harsh to anyone who disagrees and then when people bite back with similar language they come out with all this "you're being mean and rude" boo-hoo, woe is me crap. It's really common!

Some of them on here have obvious hate for Deana as she displays the behaviour they hate - they are the "insider" types. They want to bully and be aggressive but when someone stands up to them they get all hurt and cry. Sad.

Or maybe they just don't like Deana.

Jimrod
08-08-2012, 10:24 AM
Or maybe they just don't like Deana.

Just not liking Deana is fine, you know full well it goes far further than that on here with new hate threads every few hours from the same few...

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 10:30 AM
Just not liking Deana is fine, you know full well it goes far further than that on here with new hate threads every few hours from the same few...

But anyone who dares say anything against Deana is called all sorts. It's not right.

Jimrod
08-08-2012, 10:33 AM
But anyone who dares say anything against Deana is called all sorts. It's not right.

That is generally in retaliation to abusive comments in their direction, much like Deana's current behaviour in the house... :) Most support for Deana seems to start positively then get dragged into an argument.

Black Dagger
08-08-2012, 10:35 AM
But anyone who dares say anything against Deana is called all sorts. It's not right.

Some of them deserve it. :pipe:

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 10:38 AM
That is generally in retaliation to abusive comments in their direction, much like Deana's current behaviour in the house... :) Most support for Deana seems to start positively then get dragged into an argument.

I never insult anyone, but i get called all sorts just because my opinion is different. It used to upset me, but now i stand up for myself. I try to keep it polite and respectful. :)

Black Dagger
08-08-2012, 10:39 AM
And I love how Deana fans are seen as the spawn of satan when.

Chuff called Deana fans 'dirty old perverts living in grotty bedsits' and you, chuff & Sam ganged up on Kizzy yesterday. LMAO

chuff me dizzy
08-08-2012, 10:44 AM
I never insult anyone, but i get called all sorts just because my opinion is different. It used to upset me, but now i stand up for myself. I try to keep it polite and respectful. :)

Let it ALL float over your head ,90% of the time I dont even read some posts ,and 1 persons post i NEVER,read never mind reply to, get yourself a pair of blinkers, use them on her and plough on,your opinion is as valid as anyone elses on here .....simples !!

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 10:45 AM
Let it ALL float over your head ,90% of the time I dont even read some posts ,and 1 persons post i NEVER,read never mind reply to, get yourself a pair of blinkers, use them on her and plough on,your opinion is as valid as anyone elses on here .....simples !!

Yes, you're right! In on one ear, out from the other! :dance:

MrWong
08-08-2012, 10:59 AM
And I love how Deana fans are seen as the spawn of satan when.

Chuff called Deana fans 'dirty old perverts living in grotty bedsits' and you, chuff & Sam ganged up on Kizzy yesterday. LMAO

Yep and sampvt called her a nob :nono:

Kizzy
08-08-2012, 11:11 AM
Who called me a nob! LEMMEATEM!!

M X
08-08-2012, 11:27 AM
No, she is not. She was only having a little joke.

How come it's fine that she has been bullied by the other housemates, mostly Ashleigh and Conor, for the majority of the series but as soon as she starts sticking up for herself then she is Cruella DeVille.

Save Deana!!!!!

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 12:16 PM
I'm loving this new side to Deana. For weeks she's been picked on and singled out for abuse and criticism from the Insiders, and now they've gone there's very few of them left. Luke S, being one of the few left is getting the brunt of it because he's basically a liar. All of them know it because they all saw him push the button, but as usual, Deana's the only one with the guts to call him on it. I see this whole thing as a bit like when a group of kids bully one person, then that person catches one of them alone without their mates and kicks the crap out of them. The phrase "you're not so brave when you're on your own" springs to mind. Luke S deserves it all. It's not bullying, it's treating others as they've treat you. They've treat Deana terribly, so now it's time for a taste of their own medicine.

sampvt
08-08-2012, 12:20 PM
I'm loving this new side to Deana. For weeks she's been picked on and singled out for abuse and criticism from the Insiders, and now they've gone there's very few of them left. Luke S, being one of the few left is getting the brunt of it because he's basically a liar. All of them know it because they all saw him push the button, but as usual, Deana's the only one with the guts to call him on it. I see this whole thing as a bit like when a group of kids bully one person, then that person catches one of them alone without their mates and kicks the crap out of them. The phrase "you're not so brave when you're on your own" springs to mind. Luke S deserves it all. It's not bullying, it's treating others as they've treat you. They've treat Deana terribly, so now it's time for a taste of their own medicine.

Im loving it as well, she is digging a grave she cant get out of. Silly girl has underestimated how tolerant we as a voting public are.

flamingGalah!
08-08-2012, 12:21 PM
Oh look, the poll has spoken with 38 saying she IS a bully to 190 saying she ISN'T! :xyxwave:

I guess there is our answer peoples...

This thread needs to be closed now that we have established that fact :xyxwave:

InOne
08-08-2012, 12:26 PM
Oh look, the poll has spoken with 38 saying she IS a bully to 190 saying she ISN'T! :xyxwave:

I guess there is our answer peoples...

This thread needs to be closed now that we have established that fact :xyxwave:

This poll will close on 01-05-2015 at 10:05 PM

Ultra Violet
08-08-2012, 12:31 PM
I'm loving this new side to Deana. For weeks she's been picked on and singled out for abuse and criticism from the Insiders, and now they've gone there's very few of them left. Luke S, being one of the few left is getting the brunt of it because he's basically a liar. All of them know it because they all saw him push the button, but as usual, Deana's the only one with the guts to call him on it. I see this whole thing as a bit like when a group of kids bully one person, then that person catches one of them alone without their mates and kicks the crap out of them. The phrase "you're not so brave when you're on your own" springs to mind. Luke S deserves it all. It's not bullying, it's treating others as they've treat you. They've treat Deana terribly, so now it's time for a taste of their own medicine.

Oh yeah ... that is the truth of it ... bullies without their henchmen ... no longer so brave ... always the way with them, isn't it ... ? :joker:

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 12:35 PM
Im loving it as well, she is digging a grave she cant get out of. Silly girl has underestimated how tolerant we as a voting public are.

Wishful thinking. It doesn't appear that her getting revenge on Luke S and calling him on his lies is affecting her chances too much. I'm guessing you wouldn't have voted for her anyway.

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 12:37 PM
Oh yeah ... that is the truth of it ... bullies without their henchmen ... no longer so brave ... always the way with them, isn't it ... ? :joker:

Exactly. It's not often the chance to single out a bully comes along, but now it's happenned Deana's jumping at the chance, armed with a lot of ammo kindly provided by Luke's lies. Same with Ashleigh, she's not got Connor et al to protect her so she's feeling Deana's wrath too. It's good to see.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 12:39 PM
Exactly. It's not often the chance to single out a bully comes along, but now it's happenned Deana's jumping at the chance, armed with a lot of ammo kindly provided by Luke's lies. Same with Ashleigh, she's not got Connor et al to protect her so she's feeling Deana's wrath too. It's good to see.

But she's acting like a bully herself.

flamingGalah!
08-08-2012, 12:44 PM
But she's acting like a bully herself.

Is she *******! :joker:

She is ribbing Luke S, that's all... If he doesn't have a sense of humour that's his problem... :xyxwave:

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 12:46 PM
But she's acting like a bully herself.

No, she's acting like someone who's been bullied, given a chance at getting her own back and taking the opportunity to knock a bully down a peg or two. She's not got a group around her joining in, backing her up, laughing at her comments like Luke S had, she's taking on Luke S one to one and destroying him. That's not bullying, it's sweet revenge.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 12:51 PM
No, she's acting like someone who's been bullied, given a chance at getting her own back and taking the opportunity to knock a bully down a peg or two. She's not got a group around her joining in, backing her up, laughing at her comments like Luke S had, she's taking on Luke S one to one and destroying him. That's not bullying, it's sweet revenge.

I think she's acting in the same way. An eye for an eye. I don't agree with that.

flamingGalah!
08-08-2012, 12:56 PM
I think she's acting in the same way. An eye for an eye. I don't agree with that.

Funny, you thought it was hilarious the other day :joker:

Fickle Vanessa strikes again...

AnnieK
08-08-2012, 12:57 PM
But surely Deana would gain more respect by continuing to act the way she always has rather than turning like she has the minute the bigger characters have gone??

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 01:00 PM
But surely Deana would gain more respect by continuing to act the way she always has rather than turning like she has the minute the bigger characters have gone??

Exactly. I lost all respect for her last night. Saying sorry, then carrying on goading Luke until he cried? It's wrong no matter what you think of him.

realitytvsux
08-08-2012, 01:01 PM
And I love how Deana fans are seen as the spawn of satan when.

Chuff called Deana fans 'dirty old perverts living in grotty bedsits' and you, chuff & Sam ganged up on Kizzy yesterday. LMAO

And Sam whotsit clearly states he HATES Deana fans but it's ok for them as they have decided they are the ones who decide what people are allowed or not allowed to think!

sampvt
08-08-2012, 01:08 PM
And Sam whotsit clearly states he HATES Deana fans but it's ok for them as they have decided they are the ones who decide what people are allowed or not allowed to think!

I didnt say I hated all deana fans I intimated that some fans go ott when they coment or poke when deana is discussed. I think hate is a very strong word but some Deana fans take patronisation to a different level which invites confrontation. My views on her are well documented so i have never changed my mind she is a cold calculated bitch and she is now coming out for all to see making her supporters fall all that much sweeter.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 01:11 PM
i DIDNT SAY i HATED ALL dEANA FANS, i SAID i DIDNT LIKE THE WAY THEY CONSTATLY POKED AND PRODED when confronted. I think hate is a very strong word but some Deana fans take patronisation to a different level which invites confrontation.

Let's see how she behaves from now on. I'd be happy to see the lovely Deana from week one back. Maybe the task will bring some much needed fun to the House. :)

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 01:34 PM
I think she's acting in the same way. An eye for an eye. I don't agree with that.

As I've pointed out, Deana's doing all this herself, without a group behind her backing her up. For that reason alone, this is not the same. Do you really think she should have turned the other cheek, forgiven and forgotten all they've done to her in there over the last few weeks? No way. People should stand up to bullies, if for no other reason than to show them how their actions make other people feel. Poor Lukey Wookey doesn't like it now he's on the receiving end of a bit of ribbing and getting called on his blatant lies? Well tough titties for him, perhaps in future he'll think about how his behaviour makes others feel and treat people better.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 01:36 PM
As I've pointed out, Deana's doing all this herself, without a group behind her backing her up. For that reason alone, this is not the same. Do you really think she should have turned the other cheek, forgiven and forgotten all they've done to her in there over the last few weeks? No way. People should stand up to bullies, if for no other reason than to show them how their actions make other people feel. Poor Lukey Wookey doesn't like it now he's on the receiving end of a bit of ribbing and getting called on his blatant lies? Well tough titties for him, perhaps in future he'll think about how his behaviour makes others feel and treat people better.

Standing up for yourself is fine. But she's taking things too far. No one deserves to be goaded and provoked like that.

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 02:04 PM
Standing up for yourself is fine. But she's taking things too far. No one deserves to be goaded and provoked like that.

Hardly. She's not been openly nasty or abusive to Luke, she's just taken the mickey out of him and called him on his lies. While he's not the most deserving of Deana's wrath, he still deserves it. Taking things too far would be making violent threats, excluding him from things, getting together in groups to agree to nominate him every week, contantly picking at him over the silliest things, running and telling everyone else about every little indiscretion or disagreement she'd had with, him turning the rest of the house against him. Calling him Charlie and having a dig about him not being quick enough on the buzzer is very, very mild in comparison. He needs to man up and take it on the chin. He's getting off lightly.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 02:06 PM
Hardly. She's not been openly nasty or abusive to Luke, she's just taken the mickey out of him and called him on his lies. While he's not the most deserving of Deana's wrath, he still deserves it. Taking things too far would be making violent threats, excluding him from things, getting together in groups to agree to nominate him every week, contantly picking at him over the silliest things, running and telling everyone else about every little indiscretion or disagreement she'd had with, him turning the rest of the house against him. Calling him Charlie and having a dig about him not being quick enough on the buzzer is very, very mild in comparison. He needs to man up and take it on the chin. He's getting off lightly.

I think it's far to vindictive. I don't agree with it at all.

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 02:08 PM
I think it's far to vindictive. I don't agree with it at all.

How did you feel about the way Deana was treated by the majority of the house, including Luke S?

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 02:09 PM
How did you feel about the way Deana was treated by the majority of the house, including Luke S?

It was bitching, not bullying. t's fine if Deana wants to get her own back. But there are limits. She almost crossed it last night.

Marcus.
08-08-2012, 02:11 PM
the thing whith luke a did not like that but she been an good housemate

PInternet
08-08-2012, 02:14 PM
http://media-social.s-msn.com/images/blogs/001c0071-0000-0000-0000-000000000000_524b1025-e96f-4f74-b04f-30f735cd9ccb_20120720150452_DEANA.jpg

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 02:16 PM
It was bitching, not bullying. t's fine if Deana wants to get her own back. But there are limits. She almost crossed it last night.

Hmm, interesting. You wouldn't say that what the group did to Deana was worse than what Deana's doing to Luke? One the one hand you have a group of people all against one, saying some really nasty things, treating her really badly, alienating her, turning others against her. And on the other hand you have one person calling another Charlie and taking the mick because he wasn't fast enough on the buzzer and then lied about the whole thing? Incomparible in my view, Deana's been treat far worse than she's giving out. The group, including Luke S, crossed the line a long time ago and I think it's heartening to see her get a bit of justice, show that bullies don't always win, that if you bide your time you'll get an opportunity to even the score just a little bit.

sampvt
08-08-2012, 02:17 PM
I think a lot of people are confussing what she is doing with bullying becasue of the repetative nature of her attacks. I honestly believe that in her own mind, she thinks she is doing nothing wrong because men are there to be hated and he is being used as a tool for her to gain notoriety as a girl power campaigner by belittleing the big bad alpha male. By definition of law, she is bullying, but this is a game show and anything goes. Its just the deana haters and the PC mob that love this bully tag (me included, lol)

when the dust settles and she is booted, she will look back and realise (when she gets nothing) she needs to rethink her attitude to both men and life. There again, she might not and will end up joining the cheap wine and I will survive brigade before becoming a lesbian and blame BB for her demise.

InOne
08-08-2012, 02:20 PM
But surely Deana would gain more respect by continuing to act the way she always has rather than turning like she has the minute the bigger characters have gone??

Exactly.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 02:23 PM
Hmm, interesting. You wouldn't say that what the group did to Deana was worse than what Deana's doing to Luke? One the one hand you have a group of people all against one, saying some really nasty things, treating her really badly, alienating her, turning others against her. And on the other hand you have one person calling another Charlie and taking the mick because he wasn't fast enough on the buzzer and then lied about the whole thing? Incomparible in my view, Deana's been treat far worse than she's giving out. The group, including Luke S, crossed the line a long time ago and I think it's heartening to see her get a bit of justice, show that bullies don't always win, that if you bide your time you'll get an opportunity to even the score just a little bit.

But by acting like them she has become one of them. Why stoop to their own level? It shows she's not a nice person at all.

Ellen
08-08-2012, 02:25 PM
Hmm, interesting. You wouldn't say that what the group did to Deana was worse than what Deana's doing to Luke? One the one hand you have a group of people all against one, saying some really nasty things, treating her really badly, alienating her, turning others against her. And on the other hand you have one person calling another Charlie and taking the mick because he wasn't fast enough on the buzzer and then lied about the whole thing? Incomparible in my view, Deana's been treat far worse than she's giving out. The group, including Luke S, crossed the line a long time ago and I think it's heartening to see her get a bit of justice, show that bullies don't always win, that if you bide your time you'll get an opportunity to even the score just a little bit.

Sorry but she has said nasty things about other HM's, she has tried to turn other HM's against one another, she has lied, she has bitched just like most of them have.
She didnt just say he wasnt fast enough or call him charlie the once has you seem to be portraying, she went on & on & on &on to the point where her soldiers tried to tell her to calm it down.
They thought she was going to far as well.

EzzaB
08-08-2012, 02:27 PM
The poll says it all

gold1975
08-08-2012, 02:45 PM
If Conor treated her the way she is treating Luke S (haha) you'd all be wanting him kicked out, shouting & screaming about bullying! What a bunch of hypocrites. She's a stuck up b#tch & your all suckers.

MrWong
08-08-2012, 02:46 PM
The poll says it all

Indeed it does. :idc:

sampvt
08-08-2012, 02:48 PM
The poll says it all

When it suits the polls say it all but when the polls say different, tehy are rubbish etc etc. I guess this selective reading is fun for some eh.

MrWong
08-08-2012, 02:49 PM
If Conor treated her the way she is treating Luke S (haha) you'd all be wanting him kicked out, shouting & screaming about bullying! What a bunch of hypocrites. She's a stuck up b#tch & your all suckers.

If Deana said she'd love to stick an epilator up Luke S arse and punch him in the face i'd be disgusted. But she didn't. So your point is moot. :xyxwave:

Ultra Violet
08-08-2012, 03:07 PM
When it suits the polls say it all but when the polls say different, tehy are rubbish etc etc. I guess this selective reading is fun for some eh.

Well, I guess that at this point the real fun lies in being able to say 'Wait and see, my friend ... wait and see ...'

All will be revealed ... and very soon ... it will be clear for all to see ... :dance: :joker: :devil: :devil: :devil:

kefln
08-08-2012, 03:14 PM
Luke S is, least in his own head, an Alpha male. The guy could bench press nearly everyone left in the house.

But are we really to believe that a woman, over half his size, by herself, has destroyed his ego, in a couple of days? By pointing out that he DID press the button TOO LATE. And that he has a FREE pass to the final night?

Deana had to take on the majority of the house, single handly, and she did it with her head held high. She is now again, single handly, facing off with the so called Alpha male. And he’s the one crying.

This isn’t about bullying. Like everything in BB, its about a clash of ego’s and personalities. Luke S is used to being “the man”, he’s used to woman fawning over him. He’s admitted that his plan was to go into the house, hook up with someone and make it to the final. He’s achieved his goal and taken his top off more times than can be counted.

But at the back of the guys mind there has to be a few niggly doubts. He got neutral boo’s from the crowd, which would tell a HM that they aren’t liked, but no one really cares enough to make an effort. Compared to the other HMs that have been saved multiple times and compared to the cheers for Sara, I’d imagine that he knows he’s not going to win. Also he knows he's in an obvious showmance, they have both have admitted it. He knows that Conor *****ed him over, not that most would blame him – it was an easy 50 grand.

For the past couple of months Luke S has been surrounded by yes-men with the same goals and opinions. He's been safe. Now that bubble has been stripped away, there are only few days left and he’s finding Deana smilling at him and waving, someone not afraid to voice their opinion.

As for Deana, she has had a tough time in the house. The end is in sight and two of the “biggest” HM’s are gone and she’s finally free. This is not a girl who has buckled, but someone who has bounced.

How often, in other series, have we watch amateur dramatics in the DR, people crying about wanting to go home. But that has never been Deana. After weeks of people being nasty to her, she is standing up to the BIGGEST guy in the house. And not by being mean, just pointing out the truth.

There is a woman with real strength and intelligence.

flamingGalah!
08-08-2012, 03:36 PM
It was bitching, not bullying. t's fine if Deana wants to get her own back. But there are limits. She almost crossed it last night.

What?!? How Deana was treated was just bitching, so that is ok? :conf:

Yet ribbing Luke S TO HIS FACE is bullying, wrong & WORSE than how Deana was teated?!? Err ok then... :joker:

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 03:38 PM
But by acting like them she has become one of them. Why stoop to their own level? It shows she's not a nice person at all.

Sometimes you have to stoop to other people's level to teach them a lesson, treat them as you've been treated so they understand the hurt they've caused. Yes, she could have risen above it all, forgiven and forgotten, but what good would that have done? Would Luke S change if she'd done that, would he have learnt that picking at people can be upsetting. And as I've pointed out a couple of times now, she's doing this on her own, not in a group like Luke S did to her. She's still a few levels above him in the moral stakes.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 03:39 PM
Sometimes you have to stoop to other people's level to teach them a lesson, treat them as you've been treated so they understand the hurt they've caused. Yes, she could have risen above it all, forgiven and forgotten, but what good would that have done? Would Luke S change if she'd done that, would he have learnt that picking at people can be upsetting. And as I've pointed out a couple of times now, she's doing this on her own, not in a group like Luke S did to her. She's still a few levels above him in the moral stakes.

Sorry, but i disagree. It's just as bad.

Niamh.
08-08-2012, 03:40 PM
Deana keeping the final week of BB entertaining :pipe:

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 03:44 PM
Sorry but she has said nasty things about other HM's, she has tried to turn other HM's against one another, she has lied, she has bitched just like most of them have.
She didnt just say he wasnt fast enough or call him charlie the once has you seem to be portraying, she went on & on & on &on to the point where her soldiers tried to tell her to calm it down.
They thought she was going to far as well.

What Deana's done still doesn't come close to the treatment she's had at the hands of Luke S and his gang. If she called him Charlie constantly and made buzzing sounds till the final day of the show, it still wouldn't come close to how she's been treated by that lot over the last few weeks. The fact that her "soldiers" have not supported her in her actions shows that she's taking this all on herself rather than relying on a group to make others feel small and worthless like Luke S et al did.

AnnieK
08-08-2012, 03:45 PM
Sometimes you have to stoop to other people's level to teach them a lesson, treat them as you've been treated so they understand the hurt they've caused. Yes, she could have risen above it all, forgiven and forgotten, but what good would that have done? Would Luke S change if she'd done that, would he have learnt that picking at people can be upsetting. And as I've pointed out a couple of times now, she's doing this on her own, not in a group like Luke S did to her. She's still a few levels above him in the moral stakes.

Unless I have missed something, I don't think for a minute that Deana is behaving the way she is to teach Luke S a lesson on how she was treated. If she was doing that she would have said so to Adam and Luke A when they have told her she is going over the top.

Deana has let her mask slip a little IMO and we are starting to see some true colours coming through when she is not feeling she has to measure and control all her actions.

Niamh.
08-08-2012, 03:46 PM
200 people say Nay, great work people.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 03:47 PM
Unless I have missed something, I don't think for a minute that Deana is behaving the way she is to teach Luke S a lesson on how she was treated. If she was doing that she would have said so to Adam and Luke A when they have told her she is going over the top.

Deana has let her mask slip a little IMO and we are starting to see some true colours coming through when she is not feeling she has to measure and control all her actions.

Exactly. She thinks she can do what she wants. Did you see her telling Luke S to eff off? If she had spoken to me like that i would have given her a piece of my mind! :nono:

InOne
08-08-2012, 03:47 PM
41 people know the truth

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 03:51 PM
Sorry, but i disagree. It's just as bad.

You think it's just as bad to be picked on by one person as it is to be picked on by a group of people? If Adam and Luke A had joined in and took the mick out of him at the same time it might be comparable, but Deana Vs Luke S is not comparable to Deana vs Luke s, Connor, Caroline, Ashleigh, Becky and Scott. No way.

SuziBooo
08-08-2012, 03:52 PM
She has become a bully I'm sorry to say. She singling out Luke S, now I'm not a fan of his but leave the guy alone Deena! Shes shooting her self in the foot.

Niamh.
08-08-2012, 03:52 PM
41 people know the truth

WOdjCb4LwQY

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 03:52 PM
You think it's just as bad to be picked on by one person as it is to be picked on by a group of people? If Adam and Luke A had joined in and took the mick out of him at the same time it might be comparable, but Deana Vs Luke S is not comparable to Deana vs Luke s, Connor, Caroline, Ashleigh, Becky and Scott. No way.

I's not the same of course, but i don't like either. I don't believe in revenge.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 03:53 PM
She has become a bully I'm sorry to say. She singling out Luke S, now I'm not a fan of his but leave the guy alone Deena! Shes shooting her self in the foot.

Glad i'm not the only one who thinks that ! :thumbs:

InOne
08-08-2012, 03:56 PM
SuziBooo bringing some sense into the thread

Kizzy
08-08-2012, 03:57 PM
41 people need a lesson in morality.....:)

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 03:58 PM
Unless I have missed something, I don't think for a minute that Deana is behaving the way she is to teach Luke S a lesson on how she was treated. If she was doing that she would have said so to Adam and Luke A when they have told her she is going over the top.

Deana has let her mask slip a little IMO and we are starting to see some true colours coming through when she is not feeling she has to measure and control all her actions.


It's revenge for the way she's been treated. Luke S should ask himself why and if he doesn't like it then he should learn from it. No doubt he'll have the same attitude as you though, and put it all down to Deana just being nasty and learn nothing about his own behaviour in there. It's always easier to just blame others and not take respnsibility for our own actions. It's cause and effect though, Luke S' behaviour has caused this. Had he not been such a twonk, along with the rest of the group, then he wouldn't be getting so much stick. If he hadn't lied about pressing the buzzer, he wouldn't be getting called on it.

And even if it's not to teach him a lesson, Deana's still entitled to a little pay back.

InOne
08-08-2012, 04:00 PM
41 people are spiritually blessed.

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 04:01 PM
She has become a bully I'm sorry to say. She singling out Luke S, now I'm not a fan of his but leave the guy alone Deena! Shes shooting her self in the foot.

Yeah, leave the big muscle mary alone, even though he never left Deana alone between him and the rest of the nasty ickle people in there. Boo Hoo!

And she's had a pop at Ashleigh and Scott in the last couple of days, so she's not singling Luke S out at all, she's getting her own back on those who've wronged her and made her unhappy for weeks now.

SuziBooo
08-08-2012, 04:01 PM
SuziBooo bringing some sense into the thread

I try!

Mumbles
08-08-2012, 04:05 PM
I's not the same of course, but i don't like either. I don't believe in revenge.

I do. Sometimes it's the only way. If you've ever been bullied then you'd appreciate how satisfying it can be to get your own back on the bully. There's no such thing as karma, sometimes you have to things into your own hands because nobody will do it for you. And if nobody takes action against bullies then they'll be bullies for ever. It's only when people like that are on the receiving end that they will ever understand how much they hurt people.

Have you never wanted to get revenge on someone for a wrong they've done to you? Do you not think those who do bad things should be punished for them?

flamingGalah!
08-08-2012, 04:07 PM
41 people know the truth

You made the poll so deal with it :xyxwave:

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 04:08 PM
I do. Sometimes it's the only way. If you've ever been bullied then you'd appreciate how satisfying it can be to get your own back on the bully. There's no such thing as karma, sometimes you have to things into your own hands because nobody will do it for you. And if nobody takes action against bullies then they'll be bullies for ever. It's only when people like that are on the receiving end that they will ever understand how much they hurt people.

Have you never wanted to get revenge on someone for a wrong they've done to you? Do you not think those who do bad things should be punished for them?

Of course, but i'm a very forgiving person. I try to see the best in everyone. I think taking revenge has no purpose. It's better to rise above those who don't like you.

InOne
08-08-2012, 04:12 PM
You made the poll so deal with it :xyxwave:

Deal with what? lol

Black Dagger
08-08-2012, 04:14 PM
41 people need a lesson in morality.....:)

Get em told Kizzy.

flamingGalah!
08-08-2012, 04:28 PM
Deal with what? lol

That by far the majority do not think she is a bully :xyxwave:

InOne
08-08-2012, 04:29 PM
That by far the majority do not think she is a bully :xyxwave:

It's not my fault they're wrong. They're the ones who will have to deal with it.

MTVN
08-08-2012, 04:32 PM
Another one has seen the light

flamingGalah!
08-08-2012, 04:40 PM
It's not my fault they're wrong. They're the ones who will have to deal with it.

Yes of course, how silly of me...

I'll think I will leave you to your trolling now.

InOne
08-08-2012, 04:43 PM
Yes of course, how silly of me...

I'll think I will leave you to your trolling now.

:xyxwave:

sampvt
08-08-2012, 05:07 PM
41 people need a glass of bubbly for being honest, 200 need a mint to take away the taste of poo.

AnnieK
08-08-2012, 05:09 PM
It's revenge for the way she's been treated. Luke S should ask himself why and if he doesn't like it then he should learn from it. No doubt he'll have the same attitude as you though, and put it all down to Deana just being nasty and learn nothing about his own behaviour in there. It's always easier to just blame others and not take respnsibility for our own actions. It's cause and effect though, Luke S' behaviour has caused this. Had he not been such a twonk, along with the rest of the group, then he wouldn't be getting so much stick. If he hadn't lied about pressing the buzzer, he wouldn't be getting called on it.

And even if it's not to teach him a lesson, Deana's still entitled to a little pay back.

You have misunderstood me. I am not condoning the way Deana has been treated in any way, shape or form but I believe this latest behaviour from Deana is just what it is. I do not believe she is exacting revenge for the way she has been treated as she would have told her "soldiers" that.

The subject of Deana on here is always contentious and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, mine being that that her change of late is nothing to do with the way she has been treated in the past otherwise she would have vocalised the point. I have said I dont believe she is a bully and Luke S is the master of his own downfall in many ways.

Kizzy
08-08-2012, 05:12 PM
41 people need a glass of bubbly for being honest, 200 need a mint to take away the taste of poo.

If I support deana I eat poo?....

Ultra Violet
08-08-2012, 05:22 PM
If I support deana I eat poo?....

Oh it is just revolting ... simply ignore it ... don't even go there ... a reaction is what all the WUMs want ... we shouldn't even give them that little bit of satisfaction ...

Deana is on the way to a triumph ... that will be 'revenge' enough for us ... :devil:

sampvt
08-08-2012, 05:34 PM
If I support deana I eat poo?....

Kizzy one minute you are a paradon of virtue with seemingly high levels of intelligence and the next (if it suits you of course) you dont get the simple connection of a mint to get rid of the smell of poo as in KISSARSE. The mind boggles. You Deana lovers love to milk stuff dont you. Oh by the way it was a joke.

Kizzy
08-08-2012, 05:37 PM
Kizzy one minute you are a paradon of virtue with seemingly high levels of intelligence and the next (if it suits you of course) you dont get the simple connection of a mint to get rid of the smell of poo as in KISSARSE. The mind boggles. You Deana lovers love to milk stuff dont you. Oh by the way it was a joke.

fanks...

EzzaB
08-08-2012, 05:50 PM
wodjcb4lwqy

lol!!!

jet
08-08-2012, 06:41 PM
This poll was started just after her FIRST taunt of Luke S. It might be a different story now. Maybe a new poll is needed. :hugesmile:

BizarreCharisma
08-08-2012, 06:45 PM
No and if anyone genuenly thinks she is obviously hasn't a clue what bullying is.

I've seen what real bullying is and I've been lucky not to be on the receiving end (or the giving end btw) of it.

optimisticcynic
08-08-2012, 06:45 PM
Of course, but i'm a very forgiving person. I try to see the best in everyone. I think taking revenge has no purpose. It's better to rise above those who don't like you.

That's very righteous of you, but ridiculously unrealistic and bordering on pious. Have been reading your posts and you seem to expect Deana to rise above weeks of being treated like crap, just because it will fit into your own ideal. She's not going to, and I don't blame her. If she chooses an eye for an eye as her mantra, good on her. I still prefer Adam and Luke A, and am not over-enthused with Deana but the 41 that feel Deana's a bully are clutching at straws and lacking in any empathy themselves.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 06:45 PM
This poll was started just after her FIRST taunt of Luke S. It might be a different story now. Maybe a new poll is needed. :hugesmile:

Agreed! Because i changed my mind after last night show. I had no problem with her before. We do need a new poll! :)

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 06:48 PM
That's very righteous of you, but ridiculously unrealistic and bordering on pious. Have been reading your posts and you seem to expect Deana to rise above weeks of being treated like crap, just because it will fit into your own ideal. She's not going to, and I don't blame her. If she chooses an eye for an eye as her mantra, good on her. I still prefer Adam and Luke A, and am not over-enthused with Deana but the 41 that feel Deana's a bully are clutching at straws and lacking in any empathy themselves.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this then! :hugesmile:

jet
08-08-2012, 06:48 PM
That's very righteous of you, but ridiculously unrealistic and bordering on pious. Have been reading your posts and you seem to expect Deana to rise above weeks of being treated like crap, just because it will fit into your own ideal. She's not going to, and I don't blame her. If she chooses an eye for an eye as her mantra, good on her. I still prefer Adam and Luke A, and am not over-enthused with Deana but the 41 that feel Deana's a bully are clutching at straws and lacking in any empathy themselves.


How very judgmental of you.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 06:51 PM
How very judgmental of you.

I just don't agree with the eye for an eye thing. :)

optimisticcynic
08-08-2012, 06:51 PM
I am judgmental. And opinionated.

optimisticcynic
08-08-2012, 06:55 PM
I just don't agree with the eye for an eye thing. :)

How can you have such high standards for the behaviour of Deana to someone that treated her like crap, yet openly support Conor who threatened to sexually assault her then smack her in the face? You're completely within your rights to like whomever you like but I am just curious about the logic behind it...

AnnieK
08-08-2012, 06:55 PM
I just don't agree with the eye for an eye thing. :)

Totally agree... I am a turn the other cheek kind of person...

Many will disagree and is a personal viewpoint and not pious in the slightest

Kizzy
08-08-2012, 06:56 PM
How can you have such high standards for the behaviour of Deana to someone that treated her like crap, yet openly support Conor who threatened to sexually assault her then smack her in the face? You're completely within your rights to like whomever you like but I am just curious about the logic behind it...

Me too...

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 06:57 PM
How can you have such high standards for the behaviour of Deana to someone that treated her like crap, yet openly support Conor who threatened to sexually assault her then smack her in the face? You're completely within your rights to like whomever you like but I am just curious about the logic behind it...

Conor was wrong to say what he said and i'm not defending him. But i doubt he would actually attack anyone. He just really lost it. That's my view on it anyway.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 06:58 PM
Totally agree... I am a turn the other cheek kind of person...

Many will disagree and is a personal viewpoint and not pious in the slightest

I don't think Deana is any worse then the other housemates. I think she's been just as bitchy and backstabbing as most of them.

Kizzy
08-08-2012, 06:59 PM
Conor was wrong to say what he said and i'm not defending him. But i doubt he would actually attack anyone. He just really lost it. That's my view on it anyway.

How...what did she do to provoke such an extreme reaction?
Nothing, thats what.

coolface
08-08-2012, 06:59 PM
she's not a bully she's just a *****

optimisticcynic
08-08-2012, 06:59 PM
Conor was wrong to say what he said and i'm not defending him. But i doubt he would actually attack anyone. He just really lost it. That's my view on it anyway.

Fair play. Would you rate Deana's treatment of Luke S as more or less out of order than Conor's rant?

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 07:01 PM
Fair play. Would you rate Deana's treatment of Luke S as more or less out of order than Conor's rant?

I think less, but she was very close to crossing the line.

Kizzy
08-08-2012, 07:03 PM
I think less, but she was very close to crossing the line.

Right! who did I pass that crown for most ridiculous post on the forum to?....I need it back for vanessa :)

optimisticcynic
08-08-2012, 07:05 PM
I think less, but she was very close to crossing the line.

And from this dialogue, would it be fair to assume that as Conor remained your favourite without ever even apologising to Deana, the fact that when less angry, Deana actually apologised to Luke S, would suggest that she doesn't deserve to be villified because of her outburst?

toronto_matt
08-08-2012, 07:10 PM
some people are so dense, dont bother trying to reason with them. your right. Deana is mature and considerate enough to ACTUALLY say sorry to people when she sees they have been upset. funny how deana never got any such respect or apologies over the last 2 months. again... she was a doormat

kefln
08-08-2012, 07:12 PM
She has become a bully I'm sorry to say. She singling out Luke S, now I'm not a fan of his but leave the guy alone Deena! Shes shooting her self in the foot.
She's half his size, he puts himself forward like an Alpha male, in what way is he being bullied! :hugesmile:

The man has sailed through BB surrounded by his yes-men comrades, meanwhile she has had over half of the house pick on her regularly for two months.

In the end all she has done is remind him of the button and make fun of his "golden ticket", a majorly light ribbing at best.

Its one on one. If he has an issue with it why hasn't he said it too her? Not just cry in the DR and show sad faces to Ash?

In the toast argument between Deana and Ash, Deana had no problems calling Ash out for running and bitching to the rest of the group. The same when Becky was making faces behind Deana's back in the bedroom, she had no problem tackling her, despite knowing Becky would go running and bitching.

The word "bully" is used way to often. When a group picks on one person, thats bullying. When someone with a size advantage picks on someone, then its bullying. When someone with a greater intellect picks on someone, then its bullying.

If someone is giving another person a ribbing over something like having a "free pass". Then its just a ribbing...

optimisticcynic
08-08-2012, 07:19 PM
She's half his size, he puts himself forward like an Alpha male, in what way is he being bullied! :hugesmile:


The word "bully" is used way to often. When a group picks on one person, thats bullying. When someone with a size advantage picks on someone, then its bullying. When someone with a greater intellect picks on someone, then its bullying.



I'm with you on most of that, but having a greater intellect shouldn't exclude you from having a go otherwise, Deana, Luke A and Adam are going to have to spend the rest of Big Brother sat in silence...... In fact they daren't even sleeptalk!

jet
08-08-2012, 07:21 PM
some people are so dense, dont bother trying to reason with them. your right. Deana is mature and considerate enough to ACTUALLY say sorry to people when she sees they have been upset. funny how deana never got any such respect or apologies over the last 2 months. again... she was a doormat

Deana - mature and considerate? LOL She only apologized because Luke A talked her into it and then she turns around and does the same thing all over again. Some people are so dense. :hugesmile:

jet
08-08-2012, 07:23 PM
She's half his size, he puts himself forward like an Alpha male, in what way is he being bullied! :hugesmile:

The man has sailed through BB surrounded by his yes-men comrades, meanwhile she has had over half of the house pick on her regularly for two months.

In the end all she has done is remind him of the button and make fun of his "golden ticket", a majorly light ribbing at best.

Its one on one. If he has an issue with it why hasn't he said it too her? Not just cry in the DR and show sad faces to Ash?

In the toast argument between Deana and Ash, Deana had no problems calling Ash out for running and bitching to the rest of the group. The same when Becky was making faces behind Deana's back in the bedroom, she had no problem tackling her, despite knowing Becky would go running and bitching.

The word "bully" is used way to often. When a group picks on one person, thats bullying. When someone with a size advantage picks on someone, then its bullying. When someone with a greater intellect picks on someone, then its bullying.

If someone is giving another person a ribbing over something like having a "free pass". Then its just a ribbing...

That must be why she is no longer the favourite to win. :joker:

kefln
08-08-2012, 07:36 PM
I'm with you on most of that, but having a greater intellect shouldn't exclude you from having a go otherwise, Deana, Luke A and Adam are going to have to spend the rest of Big Brother sat in silence...... In fact they daren't even sleeptalk!
I meant that people who are obviously smarter and use their intellect to bully, simply by out thinking or being condescending in a horrible way.

kefln
08-08-2012, 07:39 PM
That must be why she is no longer the favourite to win. :joker:
If she was worried about winning, I'd imagine that she'd be doing alot more fence sitting and playing the "victim", rather than taking the fight to the biggest guy in the house...

kefln
08-08-2012, 07:46 PM
Deana - mature and considerate? LOL She only apologized because Luke A talked her into it and then she turns around and does the same thing all over again. Some people are so dense. :hugesmile:
She felt bad after Luke A talked to her, she actually said "I feel bad now". And she apologised straight away.

The "Charlie" thing started later. And again its all to his face, just like her "robot" joke.

But when you compared it to the other names that have been thrown around the house, such as "wooden spoon" or "cheese face". These were all behind peoples backs.

Spot the difference?

InOne
08-08-2012, 07:50 PM
some people are so dense, dont bother trying to reason with them. your right. Deana is mature and considerate enough to ACTUALLY say sorry to people when she sees they have been upset. funny how deana never got any such respect or apologies over the last 2 months. again... she was a doormat

She said sorry then started it all over again. She clearly wasn't sorry :rolleyes:

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 07:50 PM
Deana - mature and considerate? LOL She only apologized because Luke A talked her into it and then she turns around and does the same thing all over again. Some people are so dense. :hugesmile:

:laugh2:

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 07:53 PM
And from this dialogue, would it be fair to assume that as Conor remained your favourite without ever even apologising to Deana, the fact that when less angry, Deana actually apologised to Luke S, would suggest that she doesn't deserve to be villified because of her outburst?

No. The way Deana treated Luke S is still wrong. And why did she say sorry, only for then carry on goading Luke S? What's the pint of that apology?

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 07:55 PM
Right! who did I pass that crown for most ridiculous post on the forum to?....I need it back for vanessa :)

Ridiculous only because i don't agree with you. ;)

kefln
08-08-2012, 07:56 PM
She said sorry then started it all over again. She clearly wasn't sorry :rolleyes:
She said sorry about slagging him over the button and a few hours later she started slagging him over the free pass. Not exactly the same thing, but both to his face, in the open and in front of others.

He's a big boy, if he can't take a little ribbing...

InOne
08-08-2012, 07:58 PM
She said sorry about slagging him over the button and a few hours later she started slagging him over the free pass. Not exactly the same thing, but both to his face, in the open and in front of others.

He's a big boy, if he can't take a little ribbing...

Still doesn't make sense to say sorry to do the same kind of thing again though, whichever way you try to twist it.

kefln
08-08-2012, 07:58 PM
No. The way Deana treated Luke S is still wrong. And why did she say sorry, only for then carry on goading Luke S? What's the pint of that apology?
Some light ribbing to his ego? If he can't handle that...

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 08:00 PM
Some light ribbing to his ego? If he can't handle that...

It was ribbing the first time. Then it came very close to bullying. She's very cruel and enjoys hurting others.

Jordan.
08-08-2012, 08:02 PM
It was ribbing the first time. Then it came very close to bullying. She's very cruel and enjoys hurting others.

No different to Conor then

kefln
08-08-2012, 08:05 PM
Still doesn't make sense to say sorry to do the same kind of thing again though, whichever way you try to twist it.
Its not twisting, in anyway shape or form...

Slagging #1: Said in company, while laughing, topic: not pressing the button faster. Which was the topic that had dominated most of the conversations of the day.

Slagging #2: Said in company, while laughing, topic: the free pass to the final. Something that he has admitted to being happy with, despite being p*ssed at not winning the money.

Both of these have been said in the open, in front of people, not behind his back.

Far worse has been said in that house and most of it behind peoples back. The problem here isn't whats being said, its that for the first time Luke S is being challenged and not by another Alpha, but by someone half his size. He just doesn't seem to know how to react.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 08:06 PM
No different to Conor then

I never said she was worse than Conor. Just that she's as bitchy as backstabbing as most of them. And last night proved it.

kefln
08-08-2012, 08:08 PM
It was ribbing the first time. Then it came very close to bullying. She's very cruel and enjoys hurting others.
Thats your opinion and not really based on facts.

And compared to some of the other things said in that house...

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 08:09 PM
Thats your opinion and not really based on facts.

And compared to some of the other things said in that house...

Yes, it's only my opinion. I have to be honest. I don't like her at all!

Jordan.
08-08-2012, 08:12 PM
I never said she was worse than Conor. Just that she's as bitchy as backstabbing as most of them. And last night proved it.

How come you're only hating on Deana then when Conor was your favourite and his behaviour was far worse than a few teasing comments.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 08:13 PM
How come you're only hating on Deana then when Conor was your favourite and his behaviour was far worse than a few teasing comments.

I'm angry with the way she's acting recently. I used to like her before. But hse has changed too much for me.

jet
08-08-2012, 08:16 PM
If she was worried about winning, I'd imagine that she'd be doing alot more fence sitting and playing the "victim", rather than taking the fight to the biggest guy in the house...

She didn't take the fight to the biggest guy in the house - that was Conor and she didn't take any fight to him. Luke A is a sensitive, gentle kind of guy - many here call him a 'wuss' so he is far from a threat.
By the way, in the new task Luke S helps Deana to remove her boots and lets her go first into the tunnel like a gentleman. Adam was long gone and Luke A helped Luke S get out of his costume and didn't even glance at Deana to see if she needed any help. Luke S is forgiving and kind - not vindictive like Deana.

Jordan.
08-08-2012, 08:17 PM
I'm angry with the way she's acting recently. I used to like her before. But hse has changed too much for me.

Still not really answering my question but i'll leave it because I don't want to argue with you :laugh:

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 08:18 PM
Still not really answering my question but i'll leave it because I don't want to argue with you :laugh:

We'll have to agree to this agree about this matter. :)

jet
08-08-2012, 08:36 PM
She said sorry about slagging him over the button and a few hours later she started slagging him over the free pass. Not exactly the same thing, but both to his face, in the open and in front of others.

He's a big boy, if he can't take a little ribbing...

It was a 'little ribbing' in your opinion, in my opinion and in others it was cruel taunting. He is a big boy and all in all he has taken it very graciously - and he doesn't seem to be holding it against her. He's a bigger person than she will ever be.

Vanessa
08-08-2012, 08:41 PM
It was a 'little ribbing' in your opinion, in my opinion and in others it was cruel taunting. He is a big boy and all in all he has taken it very graciously - and he doesn't seem to be holding it against her. He's a bigger person than she will ever be.

:thumbs:

kefln
08-08-2012, 08:55 PM
She didn't take the fight to the biggest guy in the house - that was Conor and she didn't take any fight to him. Luke A is a sensitive, gentle kind of guy - many here call him a 'wuss' so he is far from a threat.
By the way, in the new task Luke S helps Deana to remove her boots and lets her go first into the tunnel like a gentleman. Adam was long gone and Luke A helped Luke S get out of his costume and didn't even glance at Deana to see if she needed any help. Luke S is forgiving and kind - not vindictive like Deana.
I'll give you that, Luke has a huge sensitive side.

For the most part I like the guy, he seems to be a generally nice guy. His showmance annoys me and there have been a few things that soured me to him. But my main problem with him is/was his company, I really don't like alot of the insiders.

However...

Deana is showing all the signs of a person who has been repressed and is suddenly freed. She is laughing, running, speaking out. From almost the first days in the house she was picked on by the others. Blatantly, by an entire group. She wasn't afraid to stand her ground, but her actions of the past few days are proof as to how guarded and tense she has been.

On the other hand Luke S has had a great time. He has been surrounded by friends and hasn't had much to worry about, apart from missing his protein shakes.

Since both Conor and Becky have left, Deana has lashed out at the two remaining members of the insiders. Ash and Luke. The argument with Ash was, in my opinion, far more aggressive. Almost pointing out that she wasn't going to be walked on any more. Even calling Ash out for running to the rest of the group to bitch, which has been the standard approach of the HM's this year. From the outside this row came from nothing, but it had been building for weeks.

Her approach with Luke S is more ribbing than anything else. She started about slagging him about the money, the days hot topic, then apologised. She then moved on to the free pass. Again her actions are those of someone trying to prove that they aren't afraid of what would happen anymore.

It is important that both of these things were said to him face to face, in the group, mostly while she was laughing. Had someone like Arron or Conor said it, chances are Luke would have laughed it off himself and told them to ****** off. But its coming from Deana, someone who he has slated while in the comfort of his click. And he really doesn't seem to know how to react, because while she ribbing him, she isn't really being offensive. She's just being direct about real time events.

We've seen Deana tackle things head on before, she tried to sort things out with Conor and he shot her completely down, twice. She tackled Becky in the bed room and all that came of it was more bitching.

Luke S is a sensitive guy and yes Deana could be more subtle. But nothing that she has said has been cruel. And the guy presents himself as an Alpha male. P*ss taking is a standard among any group of men, surely he should be able to take it on the shoulder?

kefln
08-08-2012, 09:00 PM
It was a 'little ribbing' in your opinion, in my opinion and in others it was cruel taunting. He is a big boy and all in all he has taken it very graciously - and he doesn't seem to be holding it against her. He's a bigger person than she will ever be.
You mean the girl that has held her head up throughout the entire show?

And since when is it cruel to slag someone off for winning a prize? His free pass isn't a sore point, its something that he has admitted to being happy with.

The button thing was direct, he was hurting over it. But it was the topic of the day and WE WHERE ALL THINKING IT. He tried to take the 50K, but conor was faster. Deana is the only one willing to say it to his face. And she was slagging him over it. Ok, it was too soon, but had it been someone else he would have taken it at face value...

cheapbbfan
08-08-2012, 10:04 PM
Yes she is. Deana's a bitch

toronto_matt
09-08-2012, 12:00 AM
You mean the girl that has held her head up throughout the entire show?

And since when is it cruel to slag someone off for winning a prize? His free pass isn't a sore point, its something that he has admitted to being happy with.

The button thing was direct, he was hurting over it. But it was the topic of the day and WE WHERE ALL THINKING IT. He tried to take the 50K, but conor was faster. Deana is the only one willing to say it to his face. And she was slagging him over it. Ok, it was too soon, but had it been someone else he would have taken it at face value...

some people are just way to dense to understand what you just wrote..

i agree 100% tho

jet
09-08-2012, 12:18 AM
You mean the girl that has held her head up throughout the entire show?

And since when is it cruel to slag someone off for winning a prize? His free pass isn't a sore point, its something that he has admitted to being happy with.

The button thing was direct, he was hurting over it. But it was the topic of the day and WE WHERE ALL THINKING IT. He tried to take the 50K, but conor was faster. Deana is the only one willing to say it to his face. And she was slagging him over it. Ok, it was too soon, but had it been someone else he would have taken it at face value...

Yes, that is the crucial point. If had been someone else they wouldn't have done it the WAY she did...it is not what she does, it is the WAY she does it. She was mocking him, throwing back her head and laughing, going on and on about it. She was not just willing to say it to his face, she was willing to humiliate him. Someone else might just have said it, but she had to do it in the most belittling way possible. IMO she thinks she can act however she likes not because she has been 'freed' (what a load of crap that is) but because she is an arrogant bitch with a coldness and cruelty about her at times which is quite disturbing.

Vanessa
09-08-2012, 12:20 AM
some people are just way to dense to understand what you just wrote..

i agree 100% tho

No need to be so rude just because people don't agree with you. It's not the first time you do it either.

InOne
09-08-2012, 12:20 AM
Its not twisting, in anyway shape or form...

Slagging #1: Said in company, while laughing, topic: not pressing the button faster. Which was the topic that had dominated most of the conversations of the day.

Slagging #2: Said in company, while laughing, topic: the free pass to the final. Something that he has admitted to being happy with, despite being p*ssed at not winning the money.

Both of these have been said in the open, in front of people, not behind his back.

Far worse has been said in that house and most of it behind peoples back. The problem here isn't whats being said, its that for the first time Luke S is being challenged and not by another Alpha, but by someone half his size. He just doesn't seem to know how to react.

So it's ok to insult and mock someone as long as it's not behind their back? Ok then :joker:

jet
09-08-2012, 12:23 AM
So it's ok to insult and mock someone as long as it's not behind their back? Ok then :joker:

I was thinking the same thing. Pathetic, isn't it?

Vanessa
09-08-2012, 12:27 AM
I was thinking the same thing. Pathetic, isn't it?

I think it's wrong in both cases.

jet
09-08-2012, 12:32 AM
Its not twisting, in anyway shape or form...

Slagging #1: Said in company, while laughing, topic: not pressing the button faster. Which was the topic that had dominated most of the conversations of the day.

Slagging #2: Said in company, while laughing, topic: the free pass to the final. Something that he has admitted to being happy with, despite being p*ssed at not winning the money.

Both of these have been said in the open, in front of people, not behind his back.

Far worse has been said in that house and most of it behind peoples back. The problem here isn't whats being said, its that for the first time Luke S is being challenged and not by another Alpha, but by someone half his size. He just doesn't seem to know how to react.

I'd like to know what is the relevance is of 'someone half his size'. I don't know what size has got to do with it when someone is taunting you unless you are planning on punching them and hoping you pack a stronger one than they do. :conf:

kefln
09-08-2012, 12:38 AM
So it's ok to insult and mock someone as long as it's not behind their back? Ok then :joker:
"You have a free pass to the final" - "you've got a golden ticket" yeah...thats an insult that will go down in history! :joker:

"You should have pressed the button faster" - another cracker...and exactly what Luke S was thinking himself, hence the cursing in the white room, along with the throwing of stuff and kicking of walls. All Deana said was what everyone, including the fans, were thinking.

These really aren't insults are they? She was slagging him. He mightn't like it, but he's a big boy, I'm sure he's had worse said to him...

InOne
09-08-2012, 12:43 AM
"You have a free pass to the final" - "you've got a golden ticket" yeah...thats an insult that will go down in history! :joker:

"You should have pressed the button faster" - another cracker...and exactly what Luke S was thinking himself, hence the cursing in the white room, along with the throwing of stuff and kicking of walls. All Deana said was what everyone, including the fans, were thinking.

These really aren't insults are they? She was slagging him. He mightn't like it, but he's a big boy, I'm sure he's had worse said to him...

Yeah, but the first one she wouldn't let it lie, she kept on and on. And the second she has an awful patonising sneering tone.

It's not what she said, it's how she said it and how she went about it.

lanatasha
09-08-2012, 02:14 AM
she's not A bully, but she HAS BEEN a bully.

Mumbles
09-08-2012, 12:59 PM
I just don't agree with the eye for an eye thing. :)

That's very noble, but also quite ironic from a Connor supporter, as he'd been taking revenge on Deana for the last few weeks because she nominated him on the first night.

gravity
10-08-2012, 01:33 PM
Are you serious ?

the truth
10-08-2012, 01:38 PM
yes she is a bully , worse still shes a hypocrite whos preached against group bullying yet given her chance she does the exact same herself. congratulations to adam and luke a for resisting this temptation and remaining true to themselves and their principles. adam especially who stodd up to the biggest bullies of all, conor and arron....deana will win sadly because shes managed by shilpa shettys agent and stuck to her rigid gameplan of getting into as many arguments as possible and trying to make serself look like a victim....self pity usually gets headlines and usually wins big brother , sadly....adam never played the victim card even though his life has been infinitely tougher than deanas....big respect to adam

chuff me dizzy
10-08-2012, 01:40 PM
yes she is a bully , worse still shes a hypocrite whos preached against group bullying yet given her chance she does the exact same herself. congratulations to adam and luke a for resisting this temptation and remaining true to themselves and their principles. adam especially who stodd up to the biggest bullies of all, conor and arron....deana will win sadly because shes managed by shilpa shettys agent and stuck to her rigid gameplan of getting into as many arguments as possible and trying to make serself look like a victim....self pity usually gets headlines and usually wins big brother , sadly....adam never played the victim card even though his life has been infinitely tougher than deanas....big respect to adam

stop worrying,Deana cannot win, impossible

InOne
10-08-2012, 01:51 PM
Are you serious ?

Very serious.

chuff me dizzy
10-08-2012, 02:09 PM
Yeah, but the first one she wouldn't let it lie, she kept on and on. And the second she has an awful patonising sneering tone.

It's not what she said, it's how she said it and how she went about it.

yes I agree, some may call it patronising, I call it bullying, when you are KNOWINGLY making someone feels bad and carry on doing it, its bullying

the truth
10-08-2012, 02:11 PM
yes I agree, some may call it patronising, I call it bullying, when you are KNOWINGLY making someone feels bad and carry on doing it, its bullying

of course it is....but when a woman does it to a man its NEVER called bullying

InOne
10-08-2012, 02:12 PM
yes I agree, some may call it patronising, I call it bullying, when you are KNOWINGLY making someone feels bad and carry on doing it, its bullying

Yep, we're on 21 pages now and all I've seen is a pretty poor defence.

DanielLuis
10-08-2012, 06:04 PM
yes I agree, some may call it patronising, I call it bullying, when you are KNOWINGLY making someone feels bad and carry on doing it, its bullying

Then, why dont you call that to other certain people?
That's the problem with you - you're biased as hell.