Que sera, sera.

[PInternet]

Another amazing highlights show for Deana. "Literally" has been the most entertaining housemate for the past week. Loved how they showed her explaining why she hates the song/phrase "Que Sera Sera" because people who say it sit on their ass all their lives. and just wait for something to happen. And then she says it in response to Scott's little bitching session at the end of the show. Perfect analogy for what Scott did this whole season.

Bringing out the robotic side of Luke S by joking about him having the "golden ticket" (Anyone that thinks this is bullying is out of their minds, as a golden ticket is not a bad thing and saying someone has a golden ticket is in no way teasing them. Luke S, dull as always, responds with silence. I guess Conor fans (Deana haters) would only think Deana a deserving winner if she angrily said she was going to shove the ticket up Luke S' arsehole).

Deana is the only true deserving winner in that house.

[reece(:]

Brilliant analysis, I agree wholeheartedly!:)

[sampvt]

Brilliant for us you mean. She is digging herself the biggest hole in BB history and she now cant win and might go on Friday.

[PInternet]

Brilliant for us you mean. She is digging herself the biggest hole in BB history and she now cant win and might go on Friday.

You're crazy. She is topping every poll. Your favorite housemate is Adam, who I agree is a much better choice than any of the Insiders and was great (if not a tad cringy) when Lauren was still in the house but for the past couple of weeks has seemed really paranoid and choosing his words carefully to avoid nominations/public disapproval. He seems to be really focusing in on the money recently and has suppressed his personality to try and fly under the radar to get to the end (not that it worked).

The only person at this point that may actually beat Deana is Luke A who has really picked up his stride in the last few weeks (after he completely destroyed Becky) and seems to be a generally all-around great guy if not a little bit too preoccupied with Luke S. Nobody else in the house has even the slightest chance of winning.

[Jords]

What an amazing member you are :pipe:

[PInternet]

What an amazing member you are :pipe:

:love:

[Saigon1]

Ima Connor fan and Deana is my favourite hm.

[Vanessa]

It was a bad highlights show for Deana. Even some of her fans thought she went too far with Luke. She needs to stop picking on people.

[PInternet]

It was a bad highlights show for Deana. Even some of her fans thought she went too far with Luke. She needs to stop picking on people.

It's been blown way out of proportion. In what way is saying "Charlie got the golden ticket" picking on Luke S? It's called joking around. Just because Luke S is only programmed to display two emotions does not make Deana a bully.

Not surprisingly, most of the people 'outraged' by Deana's actions are either Conor, Luke S, or Ashleigh fans. Let's not forget how horribly Deana was treated by the Insiders for the entire show.

[Vanessa]

It's been blown way out of proportion. In what way is saying "Charlie got the golden ticket" picking on Luke S? It's called joking around. Just because Luke S is only programmed to display two emotions does not make Deana a bully.

Not surprisingly, most of the people 'outraged' by Deana's actions are either Conor, Luke S, or Ashleigh fans. Let's not forget how horribly Deana was treated by the Insiders for the entire show.

But now she's acting the same way. An eye for an eye she says. I don't agree with that i'm afraid.

[Livia]

I'm suddenly a big fan of PInternet... Where have you BEEN?

[Kizzy]

call th UN! livia and I are united in our love for PInternet :)

[rusticgal]

Deana wont let this drop.... she wants a reaction and she isnt going to get one. She knows the public have supported the outsiders as the insiders have all but been disposed of. She thinks the public will find her 'revenge' amusing.... but she doesnt give the public any crediblity because having had the public sympathy of being the victim to then ridicule someone and continually goad them to the point of tears makes her as bad as the rest. The impact though will be stronger...and her behaviour shows her as being a complete user.
She couldnt get the better of Conor, Becky or Caroline because they were loud spiteful people....so she became (or played) their victim. On the other hand she would have no fear putting down Sara, Luke S and Scott because she knew she was stronger.
Now those 'forceful' characters have gone she reigns supreme....she sees herself as the Head of House and is running it her way and her treatment of Luke will be her fall.

[Jimrod]

But now she's acting the same way. An eye for an eye she says. I don't agree with that i'm afraid.

I agree with the ex UFC Champion Bas Rutten - "Two eyes for an eye". If someone mistreats you teach them a lesson that will remind them never to do it again.

[dathadiguy]

You're crazy. She is topping every poll. Your favorite housemate is Adam, who I agree is a much better choice than any of the Insiders and was great (if not a tad cringy) when Lauren was still in the house but for the past couple of weeks has seemed really paranoid and choosing his words carefully to avoid nominations/public disapproval. He seems to be really focusing in on the money recently and has suppressed his personality to try and fly under the radar to get to the end (not that it worked).

The only person at this point that may actually beat Deana is Luke A who has really picked up his stride in the last few weeks (after he completely destroyed Becky) and seems to be a generally all-around great guy if not a little bit too preoccupied with Luke S. Nobody else in the house has even the slightest chance of winning.

Totally agree about this, it's also the reason why Deana was criticising Scott on his fake task.

[Jimrod]

Deana wont let this drop.... she wants a reaction and she isnt going to get one. She knows the public have supported the insiders as the outsiders have all but been disposed of.

Fantasy land? As far as I remember when given the CHOICE the viewers have always evicted insiders over outsiders, sadly due to gang nominations and Big Brother task "quirks" then insiders just haven't faced the public vote as often.

[InOne]

Another amazing highlights show for Deana. "Literally" has been the most entertaining housemate for the past week. Loved how they showed her explaining why she hates the song/phrase "Que Sera Sera" because people who say it sit on their ass all their lives. and just wait for something to happen. And then she says it in response to Scott's little bitching session at the end of the show. Perfect analogy for what Scott did this whole season.

Bringing out the robotic side of Luke S by joking about him having the "golden ticket" (Anyone that thinks this is bullying is out of their minds, as a golden ticket is not a bad thing and saying someone has a golden ticket is in no way teasing them. Luke S, dull as always, responds with silence. I guess Conor fans (Deana haters) would only think Deana a deserving winner if she angrily said she was going to shove the ticket up Luke S' arsehole).

Deana is the only true deserving winner in that house.

That would be all well and good if she hadn't been taunting him the night before. To say sorry and then start the whole thing up again did not look good on Deana's part. Plus she doesn't have the drunk excuse this time. It was just plain nasty.

[Sertius]

Deana is the only true deserving winner in that house.

Quite so. Bit who else would you possibly vote for:

Ashleigh - Foul mouthed, two-faced.
Adam - I like to sit in the garden and smoke.
Luke S - Boringly robotic
Sara - I dunno. Mmm....I'm not sure.....mmmm.....I can't think
Scott - Mmmm....now how can I be two-faced and not look it?
Luke A - I sit in the garden and smoke.

Only one answer:

Deana to win!

[rusticgal]

I agree with the ex UFC Champion Bas Rutten - "Two eyes for an eye". If someone mistreats you teach them a lesson that will remind them never to do it again.

So if someone beats up your friend you do the same to one of theirs do you??? Two wrongs dont make a right....
Those people that have mistreated others have been slowly removed by the public....they will be tagged for years to come for doing those spiteful things...that is their lesson and a very public one.. hopefully that should be enough to make them see the error of their ways.
Look how Shievonne has completely changed her loyalties since coming out of the house. Caroline has had very little to say for herself...but she will be the most vilified for years to come.
Conor has shown what a selfish thug and untrustworthy person he is...the money will buy him a nice wedding/honeymoon and a decent deposit for a house....but the stigma will remain for many years to come...THAT IS THEIR LESSON....
If Deana was the decent person some say she should realise this...but to stoop to their level will only bring about her downfall aswell....

[PInternet]

She couldnt get the better of Conor, Becky or Caroline because they were loud spiteful people....so she became (or played) their victim. On the other hand she would have no fear putting down Sara, Luke S and Scott because she knew she was stronger.


Caroline and Deana were friendly with each other. Becky was too busy flailing about to be able to form a single coherent sentence. A doorknob could have gotten "the better of her". Luke A already shut her down anyway. Conor and Deana never actually spoke and his hatred for her stemmed from that first week nomination as well as implying that he was intimidated because Deana was a strong, self-made woman.

As far as bringing Luke S to tears, I'm fairly sure he was more upset about losing the money than he was about anything that Deana said. The reason he is acting the victim to Deana is because she completely destroyed his facade of morality. After we all watched him press the button in the White Room and then cry when he realized Conor pressed it first, he continues to say that he made the right choice by not pressing the button and that he shouldn't question his morals. BUT HE DID PRESS THE BUTTON. Deana is the only one calling him out on this. If he truly believed that he made a 'choice' not to take the money then he would just laugh off Deana's comments.

[rusticgal]

Quite so. Bit who else would you possibly vote for:

Ashleigh - Foul mouthed, two-faced.
Adam - I like to sit in the garden and smoke.
Luke S - Boringly robotic
Sara - I dunno. Mmm....I'm not sure.....mmmm.....I can't think
Scott - Mmmm....now how can I be two-faced and not look it?
Luke A - I sit in the garden and smoke.

Only one answer:

Deana to win!


Disagree

Ashleigh - two faced/lazy/stupid/common/bitchy
Adam - decent/loyal/perseptive/honest
Luke S - shallow/vain/self-centred
Sara - Fickle/niave/dull
Scott - Witty/bitchy/lazy/fence-sitter
Luke A - decent/loyal/perseptive/honest
Deana - hypocrite/player/annoying

Adam or Luke A to win...

[PInternet]

That would be all well and good if she hadn't been taunting him the night before. To say sorry and then start the whole thing up again did not look good on Deana's part. Plus she doesn't have the drunk excuse this time. It was just plain nasty.

Luke S pressed the button too late, and instead of saying "fair play", guilt-tripped Conor and moaned about for the next 30 minutes only to finally leave the White Room and angrily say to Adam "What the **** are you smirking about?" After all of this transpired, Luke S began to say that he chose not to take the money on purpose and that he only pressed the button because he heard a click noise from over by Conor and that he made the moral choice, etc. Deana, seeing right through his BS, called him out on it and rightfully so. The fact that he went to cry about it in the Diary Room just shows that everything he's spewing is horse****.

[InOne]

Luke S pressed the button too late, and instead of saying "fair play", guilt-tripped Conor and moaned about for the next 30 minutes only to finally leave the White Room and angrily say to Adam "What the **** are you smirking about?" After all of this transpired, Luke S began to say that he chose not to take the money on purpose and that he only pressed the button because he heard a click noise from over by Conor and that he made the moral choice, etc. Deana, seeing right through his BS, called him out on it and rightfully so. The fact that he went to cry about it in the Diary Room just shows that everything he's spewing is horse****.

Yeah bascially dodged my whole point :joker: It was hardly "calling him out" was it.

[rusticgal]

Caroline and Deana were friendly with each other. Becky was too busy flailing about to be able to form a single coherent sentence. A doorknob could have gotten "the better of her". Luke A already shut her down anyway. Conor and Deana never actually spoke and his hatred for her stemmed from that first week nomination as well as implying that he was intimidated because Deana was a strong, self-made woman.

As far as bringing Luke S to tears, I'm fairly sure he was more upset about losing the money than he was about anything that Deana said. The reason he is acting the victim to Deana is because she completely destroyed his facade of morality. After we all watched him press the button in the White Room and then cry when he realized Conor pressed it first, he continues to say that he made the right choice by not pressing the button and that he shouldn't question his morals. BUT HE DID PRESS THE BUTTON. Deana is the only one calling him out on this. If he truly believed that he made a 'choice' not to take the money then he would just laugh off Deana's comments.

He did laugh it off a little....but she went on and on and on. She apologised the next morning for being nasty....then goes on to naming him after characters related to his task failure... she does not know when to stop.

[PInternet]

Yeah bascially dodged my whole point :joker: It was hardly "calling him out" was it.

She called him out by continuously talking about the 50K to see his reaction. If he really (as he says) made the moral choice not to take the money (which is not even an option as he in fact, did press the button) then he wouldn't get so upset about the comments and would instead be proud of his 'decision'.

The Charlie and the Golden Ticket joke is just a JOKE. Charlie does not hold a negative connotation and is a well-loved famous movie character. Who wouldn't want the golden ticket to the final? Luke S, instead of joining in on joking around plays the victim. He knows exactly what he is doing.

[ransom]

Deana is marching straight to victory. The haters are just mad because their favorite housemate will not get the better of her. That's why they constantly come on here to whine about her and make things up. They are just trying to persuade some of her voters to drop her and vote for their housemate instead.

Won't work though, Deana has too much support. The only person in there who truly deserves to win, bar Luke A possibly.

[glasstangerine]

Hey remember when Deana committed the heinous crime of not liking spam and tobasco sauce baked into a cake, and was accused of losing a task which the housemates DIDNT LOSE?? For a full day a large group of people loudly said horrible things about her and got their mob mentality on. A large group including a lot of muscly alpha males. It was so heated that even though Deana didn't know this, someone made a long rant threatening graphic violence to a few people and they laughed? I can't imagine anyone I spend time with saying something like that to anyone else without the other person calling them out but it was so heated it was considered normal.

She was in a house of people that hated her and she didn't let it concern her at all. The most she did was roll her eyes and say they should grow up. Have you ever been trapped with a large group of people that do nothing but talk about how horrible you are? I have. Not a lot of people can handle that without crumbling, I assure you.

These people then wonder why she gets saved and decide it's because she is playing the victim.

Then the roles are switched and Luke is no longer in his comfy protected position in the group. Deana has the nerve to compare him to Charley and the Chocolate factory... a comparison which ISNT NEGATIVE and ACTUALLY APPLIES TO HIS SITUATION! He pouts and looks pained, says he's going to nominate her and storms off.


WHO IS PLAYING THE VICTIM?!

She is hardly doing anything to him. He's just use to being safe, protected, coddled and treated special because he was in a pack of mean nasty people.

If people have such a short memory or such a dim understanding of human nature that they don't know why Deana isn't Luke S's best friend, then sod them. Like I said a few weeks ago, she could lose a third of her followers but unless they went directly to the #2 person, she will still end up winning.

[halfacrown]

I agree with the OP and people should remember when Deana told Luke S to his face that his relationship with Ashleigh was fake. That was far more plucky and assertive than anything she's said in the last few days. All this 'Deana's changed' rubbish has come from BOTS (how predictable) and Conor fans who are desperate after he walked.

[InOne]

She called him out by continuously talking about the 50K to see his reaction. If he really (as he says) made the moral choice not to take the money (which is not even an option as he in fact, did press the button) then he wouldn't get so upset about the comments and would instead be proud of his 'decision'.

The Charlie and the Golden Ticket joke is just a JOKE. Charlie does not hold a negative connotation and is a well-loved famous movie character. Who wouldn't want the golden ticket to the final? Luke S, instead of joining in on joking around plays the victim. He knows exactly what he is doing.

Still not really calling him out, just saying he should've pushed it faster and then laughing, saying sorry and laughing again.

The whole Golden Ticket thing is still a diss that he didn't push the button faster. It was very passive agressive. She knew it would make him uncomfortable so she kept it up. The bullied has become the bully.

[jet]

Deana wont let this drop.... she wants a reaction and she isnt going to get one. She knows the public have supported the outsiders as the insiders have all but been disposed of. She thinks the public will find her 'revenge' amusing.... but she doesnt give the public any crediblity because having had the public sympathy of being the victim to then ridicule someone and continually goad them to the point of tears makes her as bad as the rest. The impact though will be stronger...and her behaviour shows her as being a complete user.
She couldnt get the better of Conor, Becky or Caroline because they were loud spiteful people....so she became (or played) their victim. On the other hand she would have no fear putting down Sara, Luke S and Scott because she knew she was stronger.
Now those 'forceful' characters have gone she reigns supreme....she sees herself as the Head of House and is running it her way and her treatment of Luke will be her fall.

Excellent analysis. :thumbs::worship:

[Marmalite]

It was a bad highlights show for Deana. Even some of her fans thought she went too far with Luke. She needs to stop picking on people.



Oh come on. :shocked:

How can you call it "picking" when he is SUCH an easy target?

He's got a mouth and a big bollock so can easily fight back or can he only do that when he's got man pals around him or *******igh's mouth fighting for him?

Besides he ripped into her plenty of times (with the backing of the pack) and tried to make her out like a money grabbing, camera loving, back stabbing HM many times.

It's karma and he needs to take it like a man or bail out while he still has a tiny shred of dignity left.

[PInternet]

Still not really calling him out, just saying he should've pushed it faster and then laughing, saying sorry and laughing again.

The whole Golden Ticket thing is still a diss that he didn't push the button faster. It was very passive agressive. She knew it would make him uncomfortable so she kept it up. The bullied has become the bully.

It shouldn't make him uncomfortable if he indeed, as he says, made the moral choice to not take the money. Why would he care if somebody said he should have pushed the button faster if he 'purposely' did not press it? He's trying to save face and very poorly hide the fact that he's greedy and only cares about money and Deana is doing a good job of forcing him to reveal how he really feels.

To quote Scott after the flowers vs money argument where Luke S tried to make Deana seem like a gold-digger:

"During a conversation with Becky, Scott questioned why it was okay for Luke S to be self-righteous about Deana’s ideas on money (one of the arguments Luke and Deana had last night) yet he “really wants money,” implying that Scott thought Luke S was being hypocritical."

[Marmalite]

Deana wont let this drop.... she wants a reaction and she isnt going to get one. She knows the public have supported the outsiders as the insiders have all but been disposed of. She thinks the public will find her 'revenge' amusing.... but she doesnt give the public any crediblity because having had the public sympathy of being the victim to then ridicule someone and continually goad them to the point of tears makes her as bad as the rest. The impact though will be stronger...and her behaviour shows her as being a complete user.
She couldnt get the better of Conor, Becky or Caroline because they were loud spiteful people....so she became (or played) their victim. On the other hand she would have no fear putting down Sara, Luke S and Scott because she knew she was stronger.
Now those 'forceful' characters have gone she reigns supreme....she sees herself as the Head of House and is running it her way and her treatment of Luke will be her fall.



I disagree.

I think she's way beyond doing anything for the public anymore.

Girls doing it for herself. She's been surpressed for too many weeks and can now let it all out.

[InOne]

It shouldn't make him uncomfortable if he indeed, as he says, made the moral choice to not take the money. Why would he care if somebody said he should have pushed the button faster if he 'purposely' did not press it? He's trying to save face and very poorly hide the fact that he's greedy and only cares about money and Deana is doing a good job of forcing him to reveal how he really feels.

To quote Scott after the flowers vs money argument where Luke S tried to make Deana seem like a gold-digger:

"During a conversation with Becky, Scott questioned why it was okay for Luke S to be self-righteous about Deana’s ideas on money (one of the arguments Luke and Deana had last night) yet he “really wants money,” implying that Scott thought Luke S was being hypocritical."

He kept saying in the DR he was questioning his decision because of Deana. He was most likely very confused, it was a hard situation to be in and none of us know what it would be really like. The last thing you need is someone constantly poking you about it. None of the other HM's did it, so why did she feel the need to? Who is she to force out how he really feels? She just loves uncomfortable situations and basically making people feel like ****

[jet]

Caroline and Deana were friendly with each other. Becky was too busy flailing about to be able to form a single coherent sentence. A doorknob could have gotten "the better of her". Luke A already shut her down anyway. Conor and Deana never actually spoke and his hatred for her stemmed from that first week nomination as well as implying that he was intimidated because Deana was a strong, self-made woman.

As far as bringing Luke S to tears, I'm fairly sure he was more upset about losing the money than he was about anything that Deana said. The reason he is acting the victim to Deana is because she completely destroyed his facade of morality. After we all watched him press the button in the White Room and then cry when he realized Conor pressed it first, he continues to say that he made the right choice by not pressing the button and that he shouldn't question his morals. BUT HE DID PRESS THE BUTTON. Deana is the only one calling him out on this. If he truly believed that he made a 'choice' not to take the money then he would just laugh off Deana's comments.

Laughing in his face, apologizing then carrying on and on and on doing the same thing isn't 'calling him out'. Fine if she wanted to 'call him out' by saying what she felt about it to him then letting it go. Her character has been shown up by this episode more than anything so far. She could chose to be adult and discuss her feelings with him or she could turn into a childish playground taunter.
Deana watches people carefully to gauge their weaknesses and faults and then sets about showing them up in the worst possible way. Who is she to be the judge and exposer of anyone's morals or actions in such a cruel, belitting way? She has dug her own grave. What goes around comes around.

[Vanessa]

Laughing in his face, apologizing then carrying on and on and on doing the same thing isn't 'calling him out'. Fine if she wanted to 'call him out' by saying what she felt about it to him then letting it go. Her character has been shown up by this episode more than anything so far. She could chose to be adult and discuss her feelings with him or she could turn into a childish playground taunter.
Deana watches people carefully to gauge their weaknesses and faults and then sets about showing them up in the worst possible way. Who is she to be the judge and exposer of anyone's morals or actions in such a cruel, belitting way? She has dug her own grave. What goes around comes around.

I know! Kharma is a beautiful thing! :hugesmile:

[PInternet]

He kept saying in the DR he was questioning his decision because of Deana. He was most likely very confused, it was a hard situation to be in and none of us know what it would be really like. The last thing you need is someone constantly poking you about it. None of the other HM's did it, so why did she feel the need to? Who is she to force out how he really feels? She just loves uncomfortable situations and basically making people feel like ****

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here by even replying again but the fact is that Luke S has in the past made Deana out to seem that she only cares about money while he is morally way above that. This was her chance to show that Luke S is a hypocrite and she took it. Fault her for that all you want but it's fair play in my opinion.

Let's also not forget that Conor was the main source of Deana feeling low in the house and Luke S did nothing but support Conor's crusade against Deana even laughing during the famous epilator rant. Now that Luke S was screwed over by Conor, Deana is feeling a sense of karmic justice.

[PInternet]

. Who is she to be the judge and exposer of anyone's morals or actions in such a cruel, belitting way?

Yes, a woman saying that a grown man has received a golden ticket to have a place in the final is SO cruel and belittling. She should be booted from the house instantly. Come on all, let's get some epilators to shove in her. :rolleyes:

[jet]

Oh come on. :shocked:

How can you call it "picking" when he is SUCH an easy target?

He's got a mouth and a big bollock so can easily fight back or can he only do that when he's got man pals around him or *******igh's mouth fighting for him?

Besides he ripped into her plenty of times (with the backing of the pack) and tried to make her out like a money grabbing, camera loving, back stabbing HM many times.

It's karma and he needs to take it like a man or bail out while he still has a tiny shred of dignity left.

Absolute nonsense. He had a disagreement with her about money. Big deal. They have all had disagreements and arguments at one time or another. He is one of the least bitchy HM's and of all the Insiders, probably was nicer to her than any of them.
If the situation was reversed, you'd be saying Deana was 'smart' to want to take the money; that she was trying to change the story because she was embarrassed and if Luke S was taunting her like that, you would be fuming. Come on, admit it! Many a HM had been vilified for doing far less to the Princess (not counting Conor here)

[InOne]

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here by even replying again but the fact is that Luke S has in the past made Deana out to seem that she only cares about money while he is morally way above that. This was her chance to show that Luke S is a hypocrite and she took it. Fault her for that all you want but it's fair play in my opinion.

Let's also not forget that Conor was the main source of Deana feeling low in the house and Luke S did nothing but support Conor's crusade against Deana even laughing during the famous epilator rant. Now that Luke S was screwed over by Conor, Deana is feeling a sense of karmic justice.

Well, I just don't get why her whole behaviour is being justified by the "eye for an eye" thing. If Deana was being the victim of stuff before, why start being nasty to other people? I also though people liked her cos she was meant to be diginifed and rise above it (which is of course not true). It all just seems rather hypocritical to me.

[jet]

Yes, a woman saying that a grown man has received a golden ticket to have a place in the final is SO cruel and belittling. She should be booted from the house instantly. Come on all, let's get some epilators to shove in her. :rolleyes:

She is 'just saying' is she? Okay. *sign*
And your sarcasm about the epilator is disgusting. No need for that at all.

[glasstangerine]

PInternet it really annoys me when you make points I can't refute.

[PInternet]

Well, I just don't get why her whole behaviour is being justified by the "eye for an eye" thing. If Deana was being the victim of stuff before, why start being nasty to other people? I also though people liked her cos she was meant to be diginifed and rise above it (which is of course not true). It all just seems rather hypocritical to me.

Every housemate has been nasty to someone else at some point in the house. That's just what happens when you live together with strangers for such a long time. However, other than Conor's vile epilator rant, no other bit of "nastiness" has brought about such rage as a comment about a golden ticket.

Deana was made to feel like an outsider way before the term "Outsiders" was even used to describe that group of housemates. She felt alone in the house, constantly being berated, used, and even back-stabbed by the majority of vile housemates who she alone could not say anything against as she would be throwing herself to the dogs who would gang up on her. Now that the house is more balanced, she feels that she could finally speak her feelings on an equal ground and is letting out pent-up emotions. This does not make her any less deserving of a winner.

Luke S knows that Deana has repeatedly been saved by the public even topping the votes. Thus, he avoids responding to her comments for fear that he will ruin his chances of winning. Now that he can't live vicariously through the vile comments of Conor or Becky, his only defense mechanism is to play the victim card as he sees this as the least confrontational way to respond to Deana and hopefully gain more votes in the process.

[Marmalite]

Absolute nonsense. He had a disagreement with her about money. Big deal. They have all had disagreements and arguments at one time or another. He is one of the least bitchy HM's and of all the Insiders, probably was nicer to her than any of them.
If the situation was reversed, you'd be saying Deana was 'smart' to want to take the money; that she was trying to change the story because she was embarrassed and if Luke S was taunting her like that, you would be fuming. Come on, admit it! Many a HM had been vilified for doing far less to the Princess (not counting Conor here)


If the situation was reversed I'd be backing Luke S and not Deana. Why would I not admit that?

However, it's not. Deana has the balls to say most things to a HM's face unlike many of the others.

You forget that the conversation he had with her was in the bedroom with other HM's present not one-on-one with Deana. He then continued to snigger and talk about his conversation and that she is only in the house and after the money to the rest of his pack.

You also forget that when he went to confront her about the fact that she called his relationship with *******igh fake he was the one that backed off and then said behind her back "this is war". Yeah big man!

For a long time Deana was on her own and everyone she thought she could rely on stabbed her in the back. She's not been perfect and perhaps she is going a tad overboard I'll give you that, but cut her some slack because she's put up with enought **** in that house and besides it's extremely entertaining in a house that has suddenly become very boring and much less entertaining with those that are left.

[PInternet]

She is 'just saying' is she? Okay. *sign*
And your sarcasm about the epilator is disgusting. No need for that at all.

Oh, I definitely agree that it is disgusting. It's stark contrast to me saying something like "Let's all give Luke S golden tickets" isn't it?

Deana was playfully winding Luke S up with her Charlie and the golden ticket comments. What she was saying was in a playful, not an angry tone, possibly with a slight hint of deserved obnoxiousness.

[jet]

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here by even replying again but the fact is that Luke S has in the past made Deana out to seem that she only cares about money while he is morally way above that. This was her chance to show that Luke S is a hypocrite and she took it. Fault her for that all you want but it's fair play in my opinion.

Let's also not forget that Conor was the main source of Deana feeling low in the house and Luke S did nothing but support Conor's crusade against Deana even laughing during the famous epilator rant. Now that Luke S was screwed over by Conor, Deana is feeling a sense of karmic justice.

NONE of the HM's defended Deana over Conor's rant, not even her great friends Adam and Luke A. And where is the footage of Luke S laughing at Conor's rant? The only time he laughs is when Deana says to Caroline 'maybe it's your pubes' - and EVERYONE laughed at that. It's unfair to make up things that aren't true to support your hatred of someone.

[PInternet]

And where is the footage of Luke S laughing at Conor's rant? It's unfair to make up things that aren't true to support your hatred of someone.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsg6vr_bb13uk-day-20-conor-s-vile-and-disgusting-rant_shortfilms?start=0

At :28 seconds when they zoom out and show the people sitting around the couch, please look at Luke S. Blow up to full screen if you have to. Thanks for playing, friend.

[jet]

Oh, I definitely agree that it is disgusting. It's stark contrast to me saying something like "Let's all give Luke S golden tickets" isn't it?

Deana was playfully winding Luke S up with her Charlie and the golden ticket comments. What she was saying was in a playful, not an angry tone, possibly with a slight hint of deserved obnoxiousness.

That is your opinion, and I disagree, as many others on this forum obviously do. IMO she was being neither playful nor angry, she was being goading and belittling for a purpose - to get air time. She succeeded, but not in the way she wanted.

[cell]

After the way Luke S tried to call Deana up about wanting the money, then she saw him go for the 50k and miss, she is going to rub it in. If he didn't move his hand for it the reaction would have been different in the house. She has talked about it a few times in the last few days and it will always make it to the highlights, so it amplifies the situation through highlights.

[Vanessa]

After the way Luke S tried to call Deana up about wanting the money, then she saw him go for the 50k and miss, she is going to rub it in. If he didn't move his hand for it the reaction would have been different in the house. She has talked about it a few times in the last few days and it will always make it to the highlights, so it amplifies the situation through highlights.

But the joke was only funny the first time. She said sorry to him, then carried on talking about it.

[jet]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsg6vr_bb13uk-day-20-conor-s-vile-and-disgusting-rant_shortfilms?start=0

At :28 seconds when they zoom out and show the people sitting around the couch, please look at Luke S. Blow up to full screen if you have to. Thanks for playing, friend.

Sorry, but that isn't evidence of anything. There is another conversation going on and he seems to be listening to that. At that particular point he is smiling while looking at Conor, who was obviously attracting attention. He could be smiling at anything - Conor, or something someone else has said. We can't know - so unless you have solid proof, it would be best not to make statements as fact.

[cell]

But the joke was only funny the first time. She said sorry to him, then carried on talking about it.

Well she actually switched to the golden ticket thing, which is the same theme but still funny. She is being entertaining and cringe worthy, there has not nearly been enough cringe worthy moments this season. The good characters all left early and we were left with constant bitching, I would rather have a few HM's riling the others up then more boring stasis.

[Vanessa]

Well she actually switched to the golden ticket thing, which is the same theme but still funny. She is being entertaining and cringe worthy, there has not nearly been enough cringe worthy moments this season. The good characters all left early and we were left with constant bitching, I would rather have a few HM's riling the others up then more boring stasis.

I want to see them having fun, not plotting and scheming. :( It's the final week! Tonight should be good . There's the Museum task. :amazed:

[Marcus.]

I want to see them having fun, not plotting and scheming. :( It's the final week! Tonight should be good . There's the Museum task. :amazed:

yes i know cant wait

[Vanessa]

yes i know cant wait

I love it when they put their differences aside and just have fun! :tongue:

[Marcus.]

I love it when they put their differences aside and just have fun! :tongue:

yes it the fanil so they need to

[cell]

I want to see them having fun, not plotting and scheming. :( It's the final week! Tonight should be good . There's the Museum task. :amazed:

But they are having fun now not plotting and scheming, that is the point I just made. The more recent evictions have lifted a weight off the house. Adam and LukeA had a fun pillow fight, the Scott task was pretty amusing, and a few other fun events happened last night. The only major bitching now is coming from Ash and no one else really cares to join in.

[Vanessa]

But they are having fun now not plotting and scheming, that is the point I just made. The more recent evictions have lifted a weight off the house. Adam and LukeA had a fun pillow fight, the Scott task was pretty amusing, and a few other fun events happened last night. The only major bitching now is coming from Ash and no one else really cares to join in.

Deana acting all arrogant is spoiling things for me to be honest. Last night show made me feel very uncomfortable.

[Marcus.]

Deana acting all arrogant is spoiling things for me to be honest. Last night show made me feel very uncomfortable.

apart from the golden ticket how was she

[PInternet]

Sorry, but that isn't evidence of anything. There is another conversation going on and he seems to be listening to that. At that particular point he is smiling while looking at Conor, who was obviously attracting attention. He could be smiling at anything - Conor, or something someone else has said. We can't know - so unless you have solid proof, it would be best not to make statements as fact.

Luke S is sat straight across from Conor, looking at him and Conor is 'singing' loudly. Look at :09 seconds where Luke S visibly laughs after Conor finishes the part about where he's going to shove the epilator. Yes I'm sure he was laughing about something else. :pat:

[Vanessa]

apart from the golden ticket how was she

It was funny yesterday, but then it went too far. She said sorry to him, then kept making fun of him. Not nice at all.

[Marcus.]

It was funny yesterday, but then it went too far. She said sorry to him, then kept making fun of him. Not nice at all.

i know how would she like it was swap around and she missed the 500k

[rusticgal]

I disagree.

I think she's way beyond doing anything for the public anymore.

Girls doing it for herself. She's been surpressed for too many weeks and can now let it all out.

She has not been supressed!!!... She argued with Arron...with Sara...she told Luke S his relationship was fake (albeit she had to own up to the accusation to his face and not by choice) she argued with shievonne etc...thats not someone being supressed.
Like I said now with the nastier characters gone she feels in control. With those spiteful characters in the house Deana looked like a saint....now with them gone she is now exposed...putting people down and taunting them. She even recognises he behaviour apologises and does it again....who does that remind you of...CAROLINE...the worst of the bunch...

[Vanessa]

She has not been supressed!!!... She argued with Arron...with Sara...she told Luke S his relationship was fake (albeit she had to own up to the accusation to his face and not by choice) she argued with shievonne etc...thats not someone being supressed.
Like I said now with the nastier characters gone she feels in control. With those spiteful characters in the house Deana looked like a saint....now with them gone she is now exposed...putting people down and taunting them. She even recognises he behaviour apologises and does it again....who does that remind you of...CAROLINE...the worst of the bunch...

That's a good point. She's just as bad as Caroline.

[MrWong]

Deana is marching straight to victory. The haters are just mad because their favorite housemate will not get the better of her. That's why they constantly come on here to whine about her and make things up. They are just trying to persuade some of her voters to drop her and vote for their housemate instead.

Won't work though, Deana has too much support. The only person in there who truly deserves to win, bar Luke A possibly.

Yep! So far we've had..
Deana has the same manager as Shilpa :joker:
Deana's a gang member and that's why she was expelled. :joker:
Deana was expelled from 4 different schools. :joker:
Deana's losing alot of support. :joker:

All this with not one jot of proof. Just a load of bitter hot air. :bored:

[Marcus.]

Yep! So far we've had..
Deana has the same manager as Shilpa :joker:
Deana's a gang member and that's why she was expelled. :joker:
Deana was expelled from 4 different schools. :joker:
Deana's losing alot of support. :joker:

All this with not one jot of proof. Just a load of bitter hot air. :bored:

well she added one me

oh and i know i an bit late but yeah 5,000 comments go me :dance:

[MrWong]

Sorry, but that isn't evidence of anything. There is another conversation going on and he seems to be listening to that. At that particular point he is smiling while looking at Conor, who was obviously attracting attention. He could be smiling at anything - Conor, or something someone else has said. We can't know - so unless you have solid proof, it would be best not to make statements as fact.

Pfft!

The hate is strong in this one. Even in the face of evidence.

Seriously, he laughs. It's right there on the clip. He thinks sticking an epilator up her is funny.

[Marmalite]

She has not been supressed!!!... She argued with Arron...with Sara...she told Luke S his relationship was fake (albeit she had to own up to the accusation to his face and not by choice) she argued with shievonne etc...thats not someone being supressed.
Like I said now with the nastier characters gone she feels in control. With those spiteful characters in the house Deana looked like a saint....now with them gone she is now exposed...putting people down and taunting them. She even recognises he behaviour apologises and does it again....who does that remind you of...CAROLINE...the worst of the bunch...


Again, I disagree.


She defended herself against Aaron who constantly singled her out during tasks. Funny how Caroline put zero effort into the same tasks, yet absolutely nothing was said to her about it isn't it.

WTF? Argued with Sara .....? How does anyone argue with Sara? She bites at people when they question or disagree with her and then she makes absolutely no sense when people try to sort things out. If you're talking about the politics issue then Deana simply asked her a question about what she had been banging on about for the last 30 minutes. Sara also has a very narrow minded view of believing others gossip over finding out the truth for herself so it's her own fault she gets into disagreements or arguments she has no chance of winning!

So what if she had to wait for Luke S to come up to her before she told him to his face his relationship was fake. EVERY single HM in there believed it was fake yet only she had the actual balls to tell him the truth. That makes her the bad person... yeah ok!

And Shievonne.... the one who lost it (completely) as soon as she heard another HM speak the truth about her and was up for eviction. You seem to have another memory problem. Shievonne attacked Deana because she believed Deana, and only Deana, was responsible for putting her up for eviction. Never mind the fact that she had to have more than one nomination or the fact that if it hadn't been for her pals Caroline, Ashleigh and Conor discussing who to nominate and therefore losing the ability to nom that week, she may not have been up anyway. But yes, let's call Deana the big bad trouble maker for defending herself when she was constantly attacked by Shievonne who again spoke the biggest lot of **** during that argument.

I will say it again. In certain ways she was surpressed. She was unable to be her real self as she was often victimised and ostracised by what was known as the "insiders".

Look as I've said many times she no saint but I do understand why she is letting lose now that she has no fear of being ganged up on by the brat pack.

[Marcus.]

this ^

[Vanessa]

I don't think Deana was suppressed at all. She has always stuck up for herself. And why wouldn't she? It's only fair. I only have a problem with it when she goes too far, like last night.

[InOne]

Every housemate has been nasty to someone else at some point in the house. That's just what happens when you live together with strangers for such a long time. However, other than Conor's vile epilator rant, no other bit of "nastiness" has brought about such rage as a comment about a golden ticket.

Deana was made to feel like an outsider way before the term "Outsiders" was even used to describe that group of housemates. She felt alone in the house, constantly being berated, used, and even back-stabbed by the majority of vile housemates who she alone could not say anything against as she would be throwing herself to the dogs who would gang up on her. Now that the house is more balanced, she feels that she could finally speak her feelings on an equal ground and is letting out pent-up emotions. This does not make her any less deserving of a winner.

Luke S knows that Deana has repeatedly been saved by the public even topping the votes. Thus, he avoids responding to her comments for fear that he will ruin his chances of winning. Now that he can't live vicariously through the vile comments of Conor or Becky, his only defense mechanism is to play the victim card as he sees this as the least confrontational way to respond to Deana and hopefully gain more votes in the process.

Meh, I don't buy this whole outsider thing totally. There must be a reason a lot of them don't like her and she kept getting put up. They must see something we don't, I have a feeling it's probably the attitude she has displayed over the last few days.

[MrWong]

Again, I disagree.


She defended herself against Aaron who constantly singled her out during tasks. Funny how Caroline put zero effort into the same tasks, yet absolutely nothing was said to her about it isn't it.

WTF? Argued with Sara .....? How does anyone argue with Sara? She bites at people when they question or disagree with her and then she makes absolutely no sense when people try to sort things out. If you're talking about the politics issue then Deana simply asked her a question about what she had been banging on about for the last 30 minutes. Sara also has a very narrow minded view of believing others gossip over finding out the truth for herself so it's her own fault she gets into disagreements or arguments she has no chance of winning!

So what if she had to wait for Luke S to come up to her before she told him to his face his relationship was fake. EVERY single HM in there believed it was fake yet only she had the actual balls to tell him the truth. That makes her the bad person... yeah ok!

And Shievonne.... the one who lost it (completely) as soon as she heard another HM speak the truth about her and was up for eviction. You seem to have another memory problem. Shievonne attacked Deana because she believed Deana, and only Deana, was responsible for putting her up for eviction. Never mind the fact that she had to have more than one nomination or the fact that if it hadn't been for her pals Caroline, Ashleigh and Conor discussing who to nominate and therefore losing the ability to nom that week, she may not have been up anyway. But yes, let's call Deana the big bad trouble maker for defending herself when she was constantly attacked by Shievonne who again spoke the biggest lot of **** during that argument.

I will say it again. In certain ways she was surpressed. She was unable to be her real self as she was often victimised and ostracised by what was known as the "insiders".

Look as I've said many times she no saint but I do understand why she is letting lose now that she has no fear of being ganged up on by the brat pack.

:thumbs: Great post.

[Black Dagger]

It was a bad highlights show for Deana. Even some of her fans thought she went too far with Luke. She needs to stop picking on people.

Can you locate me to which fans said this?

And if they have, they're fickle as **** and don't deserve to be her fans. :hmph:

[Marmalite]

Meh, I don't buy this whole outsider thing totally. There must be a reason a lot of them don't like her and she kept getting put up. They must see something we don't, I have a feeling it's probably the attitude she has displayed over the last few days.


Aaron was put up week after week by HM's last year so was clearly not a well liked HM in the house but loved on the outside.

So moot point really.

[halfacrown]

One of the great virtues of Deana is that she is prepared to confront people to their faces and she's always done it, I sometimes feel there's been too much holding back by Luke A (who wants to be loved) and Adam (who’s is a little bit too keen to win). Deana is making the show; the reason she is riling Luke is that he's been trying to boss a majority group in the house that has been against her from the start.

It's crazy how people are trying to pretend she's nasty and 'going to far', considering the vile people she's been up against. More power to her, because Deana is showing herself to be the most honest and direct one in the house.

[Vanessa]

One of the great virtues of Deana is that she is prepared to confront people to their faces and she's always done it, I sometimes feel there's been too much holding back by Luke A (who wants to be loved) and Adam (who’s is a little bit too keen to win). Deana is making the show; the reason she is riling Luke is that he's been trying to boss a majority group in the house that has been against her from the start.

It's crazy how people are trying to pretend she's nasty and 'going to far', considering the vile people she's been up against. More power to her, because Deana is showing herself to be the most honest and direct one in the house.

Direct maybe, honest no. She's acting just like the vile people you mention. She's not better than them. And i don't agree with taking revenge.

[rusticgal]

Well guess we will have to agree to dis-agree... I also get fed up with people saying 'at least she tells people what she thinks' and full of praise for her telling Luke S to his face about his relationship with Ashleigh.... in fact Deana was overheard telling someone it was fake and so he confronted her and she could not deny it....thats 'being caught out' she would never have told him otherwise (until maybe now).
There have been a few that have told people a few home truths....Adam, Luke A, Lauren.... However Luke A and Adam have sympathised with his feelings even though they dont particularly like him... decent respectful people... Deana has not shown any respect...thus showing the very traits she has condemned in the others.

[Vanessa]

Well guess we will have to agree to dis-agree... I also get fed up with people saying 'at least she tells people what she thinks' and full of praise for her telling Luke S to his face about his relationship with Ashleigh.... in fact Deana was overheard telling someone it was fake and so he confronted her and she could not deny it....thats 'being caught out' she would never have told him otherwise (until maybe now).
There have been a few that have told people a few home truths....Adam, Luke A, Lauren.... However Luke A and Adam have sympathised with his feelings even though they dont particularly like him... decent respectful people... Deana has not shown any respect...thus showing the very traits she has condemned in the others.

Exactly. How is she better than them? She acts in the same way!

[PInternet]

Exactly. How is she better than them? She acts in the same way!

Your favorite housemate is Conor. Please show me one thing that Deana has said/done that even comes close to the epilator rant.

[rusticgal]

Direct maybe, honest no. She's acting just like the vile people you mention. She's not better than them. And i don't agree with taking revenge.


Exactly....she is in fact no better than them because she is replicating the very bahaviour she condemned.... THATS THE POINT WE ARE MAKING!!!

[rusticgal]

Exactly. How is she better than them? She acts in the same way!

haha....we are expressing the same views in unison....Great minds!!!:xyxwave:

[Vanessa]

Your favorite housemate is Conor. Please show me one thing that Deana has said/done that even comes close to the epilator rant.

Why are you dragging that up? Conor wasn't the only one she argued with. :conf:

[Marcus.]

Why are you dragging that up? Conor wasn't the only one she argued with. :conf:

but no one what to do that to her

[Vanessa]

haha....we are expressing the same views in unison....Great minds!!!:xyxwave:

Deana has argued with a lot of people in the House. It's not a coincidence that she's the most nominated housemate. I think her arrogance is why the other housemates have a problem with her.

[PInternet]

Your favorite housemate is Conor. Please show me one thing that Deana has said/done that even comes close to the epilator rant.

Well I think its a bit ridiculous for you to criticize Deana for "acting like the others" while the others (including your favorite housemate) have said and done things way worse than Deana ever has.

[Marmalite]

Exactly. How is she better than them? She acts in the same way!


Oh contraire.

Deana acts individually and not in a pack so that others can back her up.

[Vanessa]

Oh contraire.

Deana acts individually and not in a pack so that others can back her up.

It's still wrong for me.

[Vanessa]

Well I think its a bit ridiculous for you to criticize Deana for "acting like the others" while the others (including your favorite housemate) have said and done things way worse than Deana ever has.

Only Conor has. The others aren't any worse that Deana.

[PInternet]

Only Conor has. The others aren't any worse that Deana.

Are you really going to sit there and say that Caroline, Becky, and Ashleigh haven't consistently said much nastier things about housemates than Deana has? Because I really don't feel like pulling up the old videos for you.

[rusticgal]

There is much we do not see... I do not dislike Deana but she does seem like little miss know-it-all... always seems to think she is hard-done-by. She has been up nearly every week....we obviously do not see everything and there is more than meets the eye.

[Vanessa]

Are you really going to sit there and say that Caroline, Becky, and Ashleigh haven't consistently said much nastier things about housemates than Deana has? Because I really don't feel like pulling up the old videos for you.

No. But i think Deana is just as nasty as them. Last night show proves it.

[Vanessa]

There is much we do not see... I do not dislike Deana but she does seem like little miss know-it-all... always seems to think she is hard-done-by. She has been up nearly every week....we obviously do not see everything and there is more than meets the eye.

Telling Luke S to eff off! She's so classy! Not! :hugesmile:

[PInternet]

There is much we do not see... I do not dislike Deana but she does seem like little miss know-it-all... always seems to think she is hard-done-by. She has been up nearly every week....we obviously do not see everything and there is more than meets the eye.

The first part is true but we can only judge on what we DO see instead of extrapolating to suit our fancy. From what we've seen from the highlights, Deana was up almost every week because she was an easy target and because there was a vast amount of nominations talk in code.

[PInternet]

Telling Luke S to eff off! She's so classy! Not! :hugesmile:

She told Luke S to **** off after she tried joking with him about Charlie and the golden ticket and in response he told her he can't wait to nominate her. She was probably expecting him to say something semi-witty back or at least laugh; not an outburst of hostility.

[MrWong]

Exactly....she is in fact no better than them because she is replicating the very bahaviour she condemned.... THATS THE POINT WE ARE MAKING!!!

She's teased Luke S and laboured the joke a bit. Whoopi Doo.

'replicating the very behaviour she condemned'

She's not even close to replicating it.

[Marmalite]

Deana was up every week because Conor despised her and Conor ruled the pack.

Simples really - you don't have to be a rocket scientist to work it out!

[halfacrown]

Direct maybe, honest no. She's acting just like the vile people you mention. She's not better than them. And i don't agree with taking revenge.

She's not taking revenge at all, just pointing out that Luke S was duped and trusted a conman. Dishonest, how? Deana is being direct and honest in fact. Fair enough that you don't like her but measuring by Conor and Caroline's standards she's not vile at all, quite the opposite.

[InOne]

Aaron was put up week after week by HM's last year so was clearly not a well liked HM in the house but loved on the outside.

So moot point really.

Have you noticed Aaron fans have been compared to Deana fans? It's no coincidence.


My point still stands :)

[PInternet]

No. But i think Deana is just as nasty as them. Last night show proves it.

Deana haters are such broken records. You keep saying she is as nasty as them but bring up absolutely no example to prove it. Last night, she repeatedly jokingly winded up Luke S by calling him Charlie with the golden ticket; a nickname which holds absolutely no negative connotation which she said to his face in a non-confrontational way (not behind his back). Luke S is meant to be a grown man and should be able to handle a bit of wind-up on his own.

I'm confused how this even remotely compares to the horribly nasty comments that someone like Caroline has made in the house about other housemates.

[Nedusa]

Another amazing highlights show for Deana. "Literally" has been the most entertaining housemate for the past week. Loved how they showed her explaining why she hates the song/phrase "Que Sera Sera" because people who say it sit on their ass all their lives. and just wait for something to happen. And then she says it in response to Scott's little bitching session at the end of the show. Perfect analogy for what Scott did this whole season.

Bringing out the robotic side of Luke S by joking about him having the "golden ticket" (Anyone that thinks this is bullying is out of their minds, as a golden ticket is not a bad thing and saying someone has a golden ticket is in no way teasing them. Luke S, dull as always, responds with silence. I guess Conor fans (Deana haters) would only think Deana a deserving winner if she angrily said she was going to shove the ticket up Luke S' arsehole).

Deana is the only true deserving winner in that house.

You should have posted this on the "Is Deana a Bully Thread" I'm sure you would have got quite a response.....!!!!

[Kizzy]

Have you noticed Aaron fans have been compared to Deana fans? It's no coincidence.


My point still stands :)

Can you stop trying to put people in little boxes...I like deana, luke A and scott... go on analyse me....

[rusticgal]

She told Luke S to **** off after she tried joking with him about Charlie and the golden ticket and in response he told her he can't wait to nominate her. She was probably expecting him to say something semi-witty back or at least laugh; not an outburst of hostility.

Maybe she found that comment slightly insensitive... I think Luke S felt liketelling her to **** off when she was being insensitive to his feelings...but he refrained. I think what he said was brilliant considering how she has been baiting him since he came out of the white room...

[InOne]

Can you stop trying to put people in little boxes...I like deana, luke A and scott... go on analyse me....

People put themselves in boxes kizzy not me. I don't make the rules dear.

[rusticgal]

Oh dear...twitter robot now saying that Deana is arguing with Sara about her pageants....

Dig Dig Dig....

[PInternet]

Maybe she found that comment slightly insensitive... I think Luke S felt liketelling her to **** off when she was being insensitive to his feelings...but he refrained. I think what he said was brilliant considering how she has been baiting him since he came out of the white room...

The problem is that the comment is totally a joke any way you look at it if Luke S didn't really care about the money like he's repeatedly said (even in instances where he implied deana was a money-grubbing gold digger and he was a champion of morality). If Deana's innocent comments make Luke S THAT distressed about the money than he has either been fake before or is acting fake now for sympathy.

[Marmalite]

Have you noticed Aaron fans have been compared to Deana fans? It's no coincidence.


My point still stands :)



Hmmm... think again because I don't have a favourite at all this year.

I liked (not favoured) Chris and Lydia then when they were booted out it took me a while but I started to warm to Lauren.

After she left I've liked nobody more than others in particular but I have definitely had those HM's I've disliked immensely with Becky leading and being #1 and *******igh being a very close contender.






P.S. I don't think it's any great revelation for anyone to realise that certain viewers favour some, or similar, personalities of HM's in each series over others.

[jet]

Luke S is sat straight across from Conor, looking at him and Conor is 'singing' loudly. Look at :09 seconds where Luke S visibly laughs after Conor finishes the part about where he's going to shove the epilator. Yes I'm sure he was laughing about something else. :pat:

But you can't be sure, the evidence isn't that straightforward. I'm not sure either way, but I can admit that and I certainly wouldn't make a definitive statement either way. As I said before, it is pretty clear he is laughing at what Deana said about the pube hair, but other than that - no.
I hope you are never called up for jury service, that's all I can say.:hugesmile:

[Nedusa]

Deana wont let this drop.... she wants a reaction and she isnt going to get one. She knows the public have supported the outsiders as the insiders have all but been disposed of. She thinks the public will find her 'revenge' amusing.... but she doesnt give the public any crediblity because having had the public sympathy of being the victim to then ridicule someone and continually goad them to the point of tears makes her as bad as the rest. The impact though will be stronger...and her behaviour shows her as being a complete user.
She couldnt get the better of Conor, Becky or Caroline because they were loud spiteful people....so she became (or played) their victim. On the other hand she would have no fear putting down Sara, Luke S and Scott because she knew she was stronger.
Now those 'forceful' characters have gone she reigns supreme....she sees herself as the Head of House and is running it her way and her treatment of Luke will be her fall.

Good Post...I think you have summed up the situation re Deana at the present time. She is trying to exact some kind of Revenge or Retribution on the remaining Insiders and thinks that it will endear her to the Public and make her character favourite to win.

But The public having invested their sympathies in Deana when she was getting a hard time in the house and are now probably a little confused as to why she thinks this current course of action is necessary. Also I think reacting to the Insiders (Luke S) now is disingenuous and fake, I mean why didn't she fight back at Conor ,Caroline and Becky a bit more instead of just sulking away in the garden. Her behaviour now is nasty and is fooling no one.

I thought she was a clever girl but now seems to be self destructing as we speak......!!!!

[InOne]

Hmmm... think again because I don't have a favourite at all this year.

I liked (not favoured) Chris and Lydia then when they were booted out it took me a while but I started to warm to Lauren.

After she left I've liked nobody more than others in particular but I have definitely had those HM's I've disliked immensely with Becky leading and being #1 and *******igh being a very close contender.






P.S. I don't think it's any great revelation for anyone to realise that certain viewers favour some, or similar, personalities of HM's in each series over others.

But at the end of the day my point was about the inside the house, not the fans. We saw all Aaron's bad points quite clearly but with Deana she had other stuff going on, so they most likely concentrated on that. Ch5 are particularly notorious for putting things together so they look different and fit with the story of the house they want to portray. They will often show a clip for like 10 seconds and then cut off just as they're about to burst into full convo about it.

[PInternet]

But you can't be sure, the evidence isn't that straightforward. I'm not sure either way, but I can admit that and I certainly wouldn't make a definitive statement either way. As I said before, it is pretty clear he is laughing at what Deana said about the pube hair, but other than that - no.
I hope you are never called up for jury service, that's all I can say.:hugesmile:

Sure, you can never be 100% sure about anything. Based on the timing in the video and Luke S' body language and response, it sure seems to me that it is much more likely that he is laughing at what Conor is saying than at something completely unrelated. It is not like Conor said what he did quietly and it could have been missed. He sang it out loud.

Even if we go on the miniscule chance that Luke S was indeed laughing at something else, then he was still having a jolly good old time for a whole minute while Conor was sat there singing about raping and punching Deana in the face. As if it was a normal commonplace activity.

[rusticgal]

The problem is that the comment is totally a joke any way you look at it if Luke S didn't really care about the money like he's repeatedly said (even in instances where he implied deana was a money-grubbing gold digger and he was a champion of morality). If Deana's innocent comments make Luke S THAT distressed about the money than he has either been fake before or is acting fake now for sympathy.


I believe Luke S has been fake...very fake. However we can truly see the effect that task had on him and he bitterly regrets not pushing that buzzer. I think it was because of the fake relationship with Ashleigh that made him hesitate.
Anyway EVERYONE can clearly see how gutted he is and however hypocritical he has made himself look...why would anyone want to kick a man when he is down...no matter how much you dislike them.
Deanas jokes are so insensitive and she knows how much she upset him when she was drunk....unyet there she goes making jokes about it again. Either she is thick..or its deliberate....and she isnt thick.
Lukes stressed because he is finding her comments hard to take without reacting...because its still raw. His comment was like 'touchee'.... and guess what...she did not like it....a taste of her own medicine.

[jet]

Sure, you can never be 100% sure about anything. Based on the timing in the video and Luke S' body language and response, it sure seems to me that it is much more likely that he is laughing at what Conor is saying than at something completely unrelated. It is not like Conor said what he did quietly and it could have been missed. He sang it out loud.

Even if we go on the miniscule chance that Luke S was indeed laughing at something else, then he was still having a jolly good old time for a whole minute while Conor was sat there singing about raping and punching Deana in the face. As if it was a normal commonplace activity.

As they all did who were there.

[PInternet]

As they all did who were there.

Is that supposed to make it right? I guess they all should have joined in singing Conor's song as it would be ok then.

[Marmalite]

I believe Luke S has been fake...very fake. However we can truly see the effect that task had on him and he bitterly regrets not pushing that buzzer. I think it was because of the fake relationship with Ashleigh that made him hesitate.
Anyway EVERYONE can clearly see how gutted he is and however hypocritical he has made himself look...why would anyone want to kick a man when he is down...no matter how much you dislike them.
Deanas jokes are so insensitive and she knows how much she upset him when she was drunk....unyet there she goes making jokes about it again. Either she is thick..or its deliberate....and she isnt thick.
Lukes stressed because he is finding her comments hard to take without reacting...because its still raw. His comment was like 'touchee'.... and guess what...she did not like it....a taste of her own medicine.



:joker:

Bollox!

What made him hesitate was that they failed to listen to BB say that it will only go up to 50k and if they fail to hit the button within the 60 second time frame the prize fund will remain at 100k and they would go back to the house with nothing. (Proof of this is in Conors youtube clip where he says something about wasn't going to miss walking out with 99k).

He was waiting for it to go further than 50k and when the 5 second countdown started he hit the button as he didn't want to lose out on gaining the money.

[PInternet]

I believe Luke S has been fake...very fake. However we can truly see the effect that task had on him and he bitterly regrets not pushing that buzzer. I think it was because of the fake relationship with Ashleigh that made him hesitate.
Anyway EVERYONE can clearly see how gutted he is and however hypocritical he has made himself look...why would anyone want to kick a man when he is down...no matter how much you dislike them.
Deanas jokes are so insensitive and she knows how much she upset him when she was drunk....unyet there she goes making jokes about it again. Either she is thick..or its deliberate....and she isnt thick.
Lukes stressed because he is finding her comments hard to take without reacting...because its still raw. His comment was like 'touchee'.... and guess what...she did not like it....a taste of her own medicine.

Yes, everyone can see how gutted he is but yet he continues to say that he made the right choice, and that he's not about the money etc etc. I just can't respect a person who does not own up to their mistakes. Nothing (other than the possibility of him being a cyborg) is stopping him from sitting down and having a chat with Deana and telling her how he feels. Deana is not Conor and will not tell Luke S off if he wants to talk to her. Luke S would rather pretend to sulk and mope instead hoping that playing the sympathy card will gain him more votes to win the other 50k.

[jet]

The problem is that the comment is totally a joke any way you look at it if Luke S didn't really care about the money like he's repeatedly said (even in instances where he implied deana was a money-grubbing gold digger and he was a champion of morality). If Deana's innocent comments make Luke S THAT distressed about the money than he has either been fake before or is acting fake now for sympathy.

No, the problem is YOU see her taunts as a joke and state it as if that is a non - debatable fact. If those scenes are the kind that make you laugh and which you find enjoyable, then that is fine. But not everyone has the kind of sense of humour that enjoys getting their jollies at someone else's expense -(including myself, many others here and obviously Luke S.) If someone isn't getting the joke and doesn't laugh along, then it is time to stop. It's that simple.

[PInternet]

No, the problem is YOU see her taunts as a joke and state it as if that is a non - debatable fact. If those scenes are the kind that make you laugh and which you find enjoyable, then that is fine. But not everyone has the kind of sense of humour that enjoys getting their jollies at someone else's expense -(including myself, many others here and obviously Luke S.) If someone isn't getting the joke and doesn't laugh along, then it is time to stop. It's that simple.

You've misinterpreted what I said. I was saying that it would be a joke if Luke S didn't really care about the money. However, it comes off as hostile because of the way that Luke S reacts. If Luke S had instead ran up to Deana and tickled her or something while laughing, nobody would ever make such a fuss. And based on what Luke S' repeatedly says about not caring about money, he should not be reacting in this manner to what would otherwise be a benign comment.

[jet]

Yes, everyone can see how gutted he is but yet he continues to say that he made the right choice, and that he's not about the money etc etc. I just can't respect a person who does not own up to their mistakes. Nothing (other than the possibility of him being a cyborg) is stopping him from sitting down and having a chat with Deana and telling her how he feels. Deana is not Conor and will not tell Luke S off if he wants to talk to her. Luke S would rather pretend to sulk and mope instead hoping that playing the sympathy card will gain him more votes to win the other 50k.

Why should he? It's none of her business how he feels, before, during or after the money debacle. SHE has made it her business, it doesn't mean he has to pander to her. HE isn't one of her servants that has to answer to her. If what he said bothered her, why didn't SHE sit down and have a chat with him instead of taunting him?

[PInternet]

Why should he? It's none of her business how he feels, before, during or after the money debacle. SHE has made it her business, it doesn't mean he has to pander to her. HE isn't one of her servants that has to answer to her. If what he said bothered her, why didn't SHE sit down and have a chat with him instead of taunting him?

I meant he could tell her that her comments are bothering him and ask her to stop. That's usually what normal people do if something someone else is doing is bothering them. He won't, though. He is riding this sympathy wave.

[jet]

You've misinterpreted what I said. I was saying that it would be a joke if Luke S didn't really care about the money. However, it comes off as hostile because of the way that Luke S reacts. If Luke S had instead ran up to Deana and tickled her or something while laughing, nobody would ever make such a fuss. And based on what Luke S' repeatedly says about not caring about money, he should not be reacting in this manner to what would otherwise be a benign comment.

Once again, maybe he just doesn't get that type of sense of humour, if that is what one would call it.
She made her 'joke' :rolleyes: at a time when he must have been feeling raw and embarrassed at what they had all seen and is trying to justify himself to make himself feel better. That is normal enough. It was cruel to taunt him at that point and nothing you can say will make me think it was hilarious, amusing, whatever.
And seeing he didn't think it was funny the first time, and she keeps on and on and on it does come off as hostile.

[PInternet]

Put yourself in Deana's shoes for a second:

1: Luke S, earlier in the season, repeatedly calls Deana a gameplayer and makes Deana out to seem a money-grubber while he himself is morally superior.
2: In front of the eyes of the housemates and the public, Luke S cries after he realizes that his greed has gotten the better of him and he has pressed the button too late.
3: Luke S comes out of the white room visibly upset and then after a while gets back on his high horse and says that he didn't press the button on purpose and that he doesn't care about the money and again he is morally superior.
4: Deana knocks him off his high horse, partly in retaliation for earlier comments and partly because Luke S is being fake as all hell and he comes crashing down hard. Deana feels bad for doing this and apologizes to him the next morning.
5: Deana focuses on the positive side of the white room task (for Luke S) and calls him Charlie with the golden ticket. Luke S decides to react to this with hostility as he's realized sympathy will get him more votes.

[jet]

I meant he could tell her that her comments are bothering him and ask her to stop. That's usually what normal people do if something someone else is doing is bothering them. He won't, though. He is riding this sympathy wave.

She already knows her comments are bothering him (unless she is totally stupid). What normal people would usually do is stop when that becomes obvious. His 'I can't wait to nonimate you' is a good clue if she was still oblivious at that point to his distress, yet even after that she goes on and on.

Why do you put the onus to stop something on the victim? Deana is a grown woman, she was the instigator, she is the one doing wrong. The onus is on HER to stop. Unbelievable. Luke A pointed out that what she did was wrong after the first time and got her to apologize but she still didn't stop.

[Kizzy]

People put themselves in boxes kizzy not me. I don't make the rules dear.
Try thinking outside of the box...like me :D

[jet]

Put yourself in Deana's shoes for a second:

1: Luke S, earlier in the season, repeatedly calls Deana a gameplayer and makes Deana out to seem a money-grubber while he himself is morally superior.
2: In front of the eyes of the housemates and the public, Luke S cries after he realizes that his greed has gotten the better of him and he has pressed the button too late.
3: Luke S comes out of the white room visibly upset and then after a while gets back on his high horse and says that he didn't press the button on purpose and that he doesn't care about the money and again he is morally superior.
4: Deana knocks him off his high horse, partly in retaliation for earlier comments and partly because Luke S is being fake as all hell and he comes crashing down hard. Deana feels bad for doing this and apologizes to him the next morning.
5: Deana focuses on the positive side of the white room task (for Luke S) and calls him Charlie with the golden ticket. Luke S decides to react to this with hostility as he's realized sympathy will get him more votes.

The money argument was one of many that all the HM's have had over the season. Many of the HM's have tried to make themselves look good at the expense of others . None of the others have jumped on the opportunity to be vengeful and cruel (apart from Conor). Deana has called people game players herself and tried to sway others by talking about nominations and getting others punished.
Deana is not a saint, and everyone else a sinner - though that is how she seems to see herself as she likes to take peoples weaknesses and 'show them for what they are'. *shudder*
4.Deana did NOT feel bad for doing it. Even when Luke A rebuked her she didn't see where she was wrong - it was only after he kept on at her that she apologized, which was obviously insincere as she turns around and does it again and again.

[Beso]

It's simple really.

Luke S says he didn't push the button for the money but pushed it because he heard a noise.

So why is Deana ripping the piss out of the sad sacked arsehole such a big deal to everyone!!

[Beso]

Oh dear...twitter robot now saying that Deana is arguing with Sara about her pageants....

Dig Dig Dig....

We'll wait and see this one because we all know how sara over-reacts.

[PInternet]

It's simple really.

Luke S says he didn't push the button for the money but pushed it because he heard a noise.



Ashleigh, is that you??

[Beso]

The money argument was one of many that all the HM's have had over the season. Many of the HM's have tried to make themselves look good at the expense of others . None of the others have jumped on the opportunity to be vengeful and cruel (apart from Conor). Deana has called people game players herself and tried to sway others by talking about nominations and getting others punished.
Deana is not a saint, and everyone else a sinner - though that is how she seems to see herself as she likes to take peoples weaknesses and 'show them for what they are'. *shudder*
4.Deana did NOT feel bad for doing it. Even when Luke A rebuked her she didn't see where she was wrong - it was only after he kept on at her that she apologized, which was obviously insincere as she turns around and does it again and again.




OMG, seariously.....you don't get warnings for nothing in bb you know.:joker:

[Beso]

Ashleigh, is that you??

do I look like a skiprat to you.:nono:

[PInternet]

do I look like a skiprat to you.:nono:


:joker: Haha, I was hoping your comment was sarcastic as only Ashleigh would truly believe that Luke S did not push the button for the money.

[Vanessa]

do I look like a skiprat to you.:nono:

Poor Ash ! :laugh:

[Beso]

:joker: Haha, I was hoping your comment was sarcastic as only Ashleigh would truly believe that Luke S did not push the button for the money.

She's such a moron. well suited the pair of them.

[jet]

OMG, seariously.....you don't get warnings for nothing in bb you know.:joker:

In this PC climate you do for very little. (oh wait, I forgot about Caroline) :hugesmile:

[PInternet]

She's such a moron. well suited the pair of them.

100 percent

[DanielLuis]

You're crazy. She is topping every poll. Your favorite housemate is Adam, who I agree is a much better choice than any of the Insiders and was great (if not a tad cringy) when Lauren was still in the house but for the past couple of weeks has seemed really paranoid and choosing his words carefully to avoid nominations/public disapproval. He seems to be really focusing in on the money recently and has suppressed his personality to try and fly under the radar to get to the end (not that it worked).

The only person at this point that may actually beat Deana is Luke A who has really picked up his stride in the last few weeks (after he completely destroyed Becky) and seems to be a generally all-around great guy if not a little bit too preoccupied with Luke S. Nobody else in the house has even the slightest chance of winning.

What I've been wanting to say! He has been so dull since Lauren left, he hasnt really done anything remarkable at all.
Besides, it's indeed clear the he doesn't even really voice his opinions anymore by the exact reason you stated.

[PInternet]

Another great highlights show for Deana (I'll admit it was pretty great for almost all of them this time). She is UNSTOPPABLE. Love to see her having so much fun. If Conor was in the secret task room with them, I think we would have seen the same suppressed Deana we saw in previous tasks. And she'd probably be blamed for failing the task again because she was caught moving more than the other housemates.

Love the current state of the house. Absolutely brilliant.

[jet]

Yes, it was a fun show tonight!

[PInternet]

Yes, it was a fun show tonight!

Seriously, at one point it even had me considering that this experience alone is worth 'losing' 50K.