Unfair Big Brother

[rsefitpro2011]

I wanted to post a thread on the latest goings on in The Big Brother house, most notably that twist which saw Conor leave the house £50,000 richer.

The fact that Conor took the money doesnt bother me as anyone of us would have done the same!

However I find it dissapointing that Big Brother even allowed for this twist to take place, bearing in mind Conor should have been thrown out earlier in the show!

How can they keep him in after what he said about Deana, and after his behaviour and then go on to reward him!, I find it sooo wrong.

Deana the one who was given a hard time in the house could now leave the BB house with nothing, and for me thats unfair. Shes losing votes!

The shows suffering in viewing figures and perhaps now I can see why, BB has changed from what it used to be. Last year Aaron won and got boos in the final?. Jay came 2nd who was probably one of the worst housemates in their, and got cheers, it just seems unfair!

This year Conor leaves the BB house and despite all the things he did wrong he gets cheers and treated like the winner!

I am not sure what the rest of you think?, i would be interested to see your views and opinions!. Has the show gone down hill? have they totally lost the plot?

[smeagol]

its a total joke a thug gets 50k and a week of. the other bully gets a free pass.
and deana isnt even allowed to wind the nob up withoout getting grief from the public.
no wonder she isn't holding back the show is a farce now.
conor has already won the show. they are all playing for 2nd place.

whether i watch the next normal one is debatable. as bb have been terrable the way they have run this bb. from their failure to deal with the the conor incident the countless bullying warnings. the silly punishments. the biased editing. the sudden no facebook voting. the obvious twist to make conor win n go.
long list unlike most i never usally have complaints about the other shows

[realitytvsux]

I totally agree with both of you. It's disgraceful that the thug Conor has left with £50k. I tend to sky away from conspiracy theories in general but in this instance it does seem as if Channel 5 have made it as easy as possible for this vile man to walk away with half the prize money - disgraceful.

I am not sure what Channel 5's strategy for the programme is - but as you say it does not appear to be working, maybe they should try bringing it up a notch or two rather than sinking to the lowest level possible. It's almost as if they are condoning Conor's vile behaviour.

And now we wait for the 'I hate Deana' brigade....I think I hear their train pulling into the station!

[Vanessa]

He won it fair and square and i'm glad he did. One of the best hosuemates this year! :)

[thesheriff443]

He won it fair and square and i'm glad he did. One of the best hosuemates this year! :)

i see your on the wind up vanessa,you have been reading too many of chuffs posts!.lol
bigbrother makes the rules not the viewer so no matter how much you disagree with them it dont mean jack.

[Jimrod]

It's Jamie - the sad, single, gay producer. He has his obvious favourites (buff blokes) and tries to steer things so they get the most out of the show.

[Vanessa]

i see your on the wind up vanessa,you have been reading too many of chuffs posts!.lol
bigbrother makes the rules not the viewer so no matter how much you disagree with them it dont mean jack.

I'm not on the wind up. Just telling my opinion. How was the twist unfair? Luke S, Scott and Sara were also invited to go to the white room. :shrug:

[Gillian-73]

I'm not on the wind up. Just telling my opinion. How was the twist unfair? Luke S, Scott and Sara were also invited to go to the white room. :shrug:

Maybe because if bb had kept it to the least nominated of the series and hadn't changed it to least nominated that week, Conor wouldn't even have been in the running. The only real fair way would have been to put them all in the white room.

[Vanessa]

Maybe because if bb had kept it to the least nominated of the series and hadn't changed it to least nominated that week, Conor wouldn't even have been in the running. The only real fair way would have been to put them all in the white room.

It was a twist. I thought it was great! Very exciting! :hugesmile:

[joeysteele]

I am with Vanessa on this one again, if Deana walks out with nothing it will be because, despite everything and it being near claimed she is a Saint who has done nothing wrong ever, that the public saw through her finally and refused to allow her to manipulate people further for her own ends.

Conor got from BB a result of a twist he won as others have had in the past on BB too.
As for Deana leaving with nothing, well that couldn't happen to a more deserving housemate for it to happen to and I hope it does.

[Jake.]

I'm not on the wind up. Just telling my opinion. How was the twist unfair? Luke S, Scott and Sara were also invited to go to the white room. :shrug:

It was unfair because that nasty thug should never have had the opportunity to win 50K of the prize fund in the first place. Simples.

[Vanessa]

It was unfair because that nasty thug should never have had the opportunity to win 50K of the prize fund in the first place. Simples.

That's your opinion and i respect that. But i don't agree.

[Gillian-73]

It was a twist. I thought it was great! Very exciting! :hugesmile:

You're missing the point, again. I did enjoy the bit were they decieded who'd get the money but that isn't the point lol :)

[Vanessa]

You're missing the point, again. I did enjoy the bit were they decieded who'd get the money but that isn't the point lol :)

I just don't think it was unfair.

[smeagol]

yet again people are blinded by there irrational hate and not seeing the real picture.
the fact is all of the house mates should of been in the white room. it was a total set up and farce and not t mention extremely boring.
sara wanted to leave 10 mins later suddeny they came up with someone has to leave but they can decide amongst themselves. total utter bull. they knew damn well sara and scott had no chance.
they never intrended for anyone else to go in there but those two. thats why we got no details they made up as it went along.
whoever runs bb should be sacked

[Gillian-73]

I just don't think it was unfair.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree :)

[rusticgal]

I dont know why people are saying Conor is the 'REAL'winner.... so he grabbed 50k of the prize money. It was unfair that they gave him the opportunity to take as much as the 'TRUE' winner will take.
It was an opportunity many of us would have taken....he was ultimately given the opportunity to 'steal' from the prize fund. He was disliked by so many viewers...such an ugly dislikable person.
50k will soften the blow...but the money will be gone in a flash but people will only ever see him as the nasty piece of work he is for many years to come.

He is not a WINNER... he is just a 'lucky' piece of filth!!!

[Donovan.]

Yes Conor won the money fair and square, but I don't think that's the issue. Of course some people think that he shouldn't have won the money, just like some are over the moon with the results. I think the issue is how much of the prize fund was offered, and I agree that half was too much.

[Marcus.]

i would not as i said before i would put my hand up and walk away from the button

[kefln]

What is the real prize for winning BB? That is what this comes down to.

Is it the money or the fact that you have been voted the winner?

Conor did what most people would, he took the cash. Should he have been given the chance? No.

Not because he was a pig. But because it was 50% of the prize money.

There should be something extra in it for the winner. The person who has been voted by us, the audience, to win. That is the whole point of the show.

We, the fans, have been cheated of the chance to reward the character of our choice. And that’s my problem with what happened.

[rocket]

People amaze me when they think that what Conor said was ok..i am struggling to think what sort of person would be ok with that. He has been the most vile, foul mouthed excuse for a human being ever to be in the BB house...
BB have so much to answer for ,,,they have changed the rules consistantly to keep this thug in the house and then change them again to make sure he wins 50k...He should have been thrown out weeks ago with sweet FA.!!!

[WCR1942]

It is difficult to argue with you rocket.
What disconcerns me most is to read comments from so many women defending (or at least down-playing) Conor's behaviour. Such are the men who commit all the dreadful examples of domestic violence. His actions were filmed and on national TV, just imagine what he is like behind closed doors.
Apart from his threats to Deana he utterly brow-beat Scott and Becky when he supposedly apologised to them in his quest to avoid further nominations.

[realitytvsux]

It is difficult to argue with you rocket.
What disconcerns me most is to read comments from so many women defending (or at least down-playing) Conor's behaviour. Such are the men who commit all the dreadful examples of domestic violence. His actions were filmed and on national TV, just imagine what he is like behind closed doors.
Apart from his threats to Deana he utterly brow-beat Scott and Becky when he supposedly apologised to them in his quest to avoid further nominations.

Well said.

[fitz2k2]

sack producer n that task girl

[susie q]

some possible good news on the thug Conors 50k. neighbours son has just come back from visiting relatives in the area of Birmingham where Deanas family live. Apparently they are hard working, popular people, and are considering taking legal action against
Conor, and no its not about money according to those that know them. They just found it very distressing having to listen to that vile man, plus his family on twitter etc, supporters making excuses for his behaviour on forums havent helped. Can identify with them I would feel the same if it had been done to a member of my family. Wonder if thats why his girlfriend has suddenly gone quiet. He really is hated in that area.
Fingers crossd that the vile Conor may need some of that money to pay legal fees.
Luke A or Deana to win

[halfacrown]

some possible good news on the thug Conors 50k. neighbours son has just come back from visiting relatives in the area of Birmingham where Deanas family live. Apparently they are hard working, popular people, and are considering taking legal action against
Conor, and no its not about money according to those that know them. They just found it very distressing having to listen to that vile man, plus his family on twitter etc, supporters making excuses for his behaviour on forums havent helped. Can identify with them I would feel the same if it had been done to a member of my family. Wonder if thats why his girlfriend has suddenly gone quiet. He really is hated in that area.
Fingers crossd that the vile Conor may need some of that money to pay legal fees.
Luke A or Deana to win

I wish that Conor would face questions from the police or the courts over what he said about Deana, because those comments would have seen him dismissed from a job or face charges outside the BB house. It's appalling to read people talking about him being a great housemate and how his words should be forgotten. How the hell did the BB producers allow him to stay in the house and, even more staggering, let him walk off with a financial reward? I guess some people on these boards are winding us up when they claim that Conor was great housemate.

[rsefitpro2011]

Well look, I understand that a small minority of people think that Conors great, but that minority is either irish and female, or just female!.

That said anyone who trys to defend what Conor said and trys to defend Conors behaviour has lost the plot!

I think BB seriously need to take a look at what they have done, and perhaps ensure that they dont do anything like that again!. That said knowing how this show works after watching so many of them, they will probably continue to sabotage the concept of the show, with the aim of adding one more viewer to their ever declining viewing figures!

[Conor]

How many Conor supporters on tibb actually stand by what he said about Deana that night? Cos I know that I didn't.

[boomoo]

It is difficult to argue with you rocket.
What disconcerns me most is to read comments from so many women defending (or at least down-playing) Conor's behaviour. Such are the men who commit all the dreadful examples of domestic violence. His actions were filmed and on national TV, just imagine what he is like behind closed doors.
Apart from his threats to Deana he utterly brow-beat Scott and Becky when he supposedly apologised to them in his quest to avoid further nominations.

I agree with you and several housemates were genuinely afraid to cross him. Hence the non votes at the face off nominations. BB knew that no one dare vote Connot face to face apart from the brave Deena. Therefore they knew that he would have the lowest noms.
However the show has always been about manipulation. Not just manipulating the housemates but also the viewers. In effect BB can do as they like as long as they stay within the law. The only thing that viewers can do in protest is not vote.

[pcro]

Just what we needed. Another thread started to complain about Connor. How original.

[Nedusa]

What is the real prize for winning BB? That is what this comes down to.

Is it the money or the fact that you have been voted the winner?

Conor did what most people would, he took the cash. Should he have been given the chance? No.

Not because he was a pig. But because it was 50% of the prize money.

There should be something extra in it for the winner. The person who has been voted by us, the audience, to win. That is the whole point of the show.

We, the fans, have been cheated of the chance to reward the character of our choice. And that’s my problem with what happened.


Yes I agree the winning HM should leave with more than the Conman, so I think the best way to address this would be to introduce a task for the final five in which they all play to win the biggest share of a £50K prize. And then the actual winner of BB would walk away with the winners £50K + whatever amount they won in the final task. So no matter who wins they will walk away with more than Conor , so at least justice would be seen to be done.

This could work and would right a few wrongs caused by the White room fiasco.

[sampvt]

some possible good news on the thug Conors 50k. neighbours son has just come back from visiting relatives in the area of Birmingham where Deanas family live. Apparently they are hard working, popular people, and are considering taking legal action against
Conor, and no its not about money according to those that know them. They just found it very distressing having to listen to that vile man, plus his family on twitter etc, supporters making excuses for his behaviour on forums havent helped. Can identify with them I would feel the same if it had been done to a member of my family. Wonder if thats why his girlfriend has suddenly gone quiet. He really is hated in that area.
Fingers crossd that the vile Conor may need some of that money to pay legal fees.
Luke A or Deana to win

So its not about money eh. Well that is pretty hard to understand especially since he has 50k now. Racism will never die when there are people like them around.

[JTM45]

It was an awful idea to give half of the prize fund that was meant for the 'WINNER' to anyone other than 'THE WINNER', especially in a random task that didn't even give every housemate left in there a chance to take the money!
If the money was an extra sum of money separate from the main prize fund it would have been something but to in effect punish or penalize the eventual winner for absolutely no reason was utterly preposterous and shameful.

And the fact that it was Conor, of all people, who was allowed to take the money just rubs salt in an already gaping and festering wound.

This whole series of BB has been a total shambles from beginning to (nearly) end. Any other 'gameshow' would have been strung up by OFCOM and the like but the mere inclusion of the ever ridiculous "Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time" loophole clause somehow makes BB and Endemol immune to and exempt from a multitude of rules and laws that everyone else has to abide to rigidly.

I used to LOVE the Summer Big Brother marathons passionately but this year i found it uncomfortable to watch at the best of times and ended up switching it off for more of the time than i watched it.

The fact that it looks pretty much certain that one of the few decent housemates in there this year will win BB13 is a small but nonetheless worthwhile recompense but still not nearly sweet enough to cover the nasty taste this years show has left in the mouths of the true Big Brother fans.

[susie q]

I agree that the white room task prize should have been 25k, and that other housemates should have been eligible, the fact that Conor won it is rubbing salt into the wound. As halfacrown said in the outside world he would be dismissed from a job & possibly face criminal charges. I wouldnt blame Deana or her family if they did take legal action, and I would say the same about any other housemate had they been treated that way. So far the only one playing the "race card" is Samptv which speaks volumes about you. Have you really got no female relatives that you would be upset about if they were treated that way? Your response to jtm45 post suggest that you have a problem with strong women (you & Conor cut from the same cloth perhaps)
Deana may not be the nicest housemate but she didnt deserve those threats, (none of the housemates did) Samptv your hatres of Deana is bordering on the obssessive, but perhaps we will just have to be adults and agree to disagree on the way she has been treated.

[suebooangie]

its a total joke a thug gets 50k and a week of. the other bully gets a free pass.
and deana isnt even allowed to wind the nob up withoout getting grief from the public.
no wonder she isn't holding back the show is a farce now.
conor has already won the show. they are all playing for 2nd place.

whether i watch the next normal one is debatable. as bb have been terrable the way they have run this bb. from their failure to deal with the the conor incident the countless bullying warnings. the silly punishments. the biased editing. the sudden no facebook voting. the obvious twist to make conor win n go.
long list unlike most i never usally have complaints about the other shows

They were both told to keep their hands off the podium but only Luke S complied. Connor kept his hands wrapped around the buzzer. Luke S could never have beat him to the buzzer.

[Halfwit]

whatever, conor won the 50k fair and square, not much we can do about it now. he lived at his parents and the personal trainer thing wasn't paying to much? great, the 50k he won by producers choice mean that deana suing him might result in actual pay off for her. i'm glad he wants to waste the money on a wedding, a holiday for his family and **** like that, worst thing for deana supporters would have been if he tries to gamble with that money, at least a big chunk of that money will still be there when she leaves the house. the way things have played out, i can actually root for either luke a. or adam to win and deana still might get some money out of all this.

[Anthony Hatface]

Although I dislike the fact that the prize money was so equally divided between true winner and rich walker, I can take the Conor thing more or less in my stride. He said something truly vile to impress a bunch of ignorant peers, will have to live with the label of a misogynistic bully and a suspected racist outside his close circle, but as Adam suggested when Conor is somewhat older and a bit less arrogant (one can but hope) he will look back with regret. At any rate, the money came to him by a silly fluke rather than an act of mass public approval. If Luke A or Ashleigh are actually awarded the other half by public vote, that will be a sadder statement ...

[sampvt]

You are all missing a very big point. Luke s was supposed to take the money, conor was to go through cause you all said he was confident and would win it. I guess he made fools of you all eh, lol.

[Anthony Hatface]

You are all missing a very big point. Luke s was supposed to take the money, conor was to go through cause you all said he was confident and would win it. I guess he made fools of you all eh, lol.

Was that the forecast result or something? I don't tend to pay close attention to BBBOTS strategy announcements. I don't think I'd have ruled out either of them taking the loot.

[Nedusa]

whatever, conor won the 50k fair and square, not much we can do about it now. he lived at his parents and the personal trainer thing wasn't paying to much? great, the 50k he won by producers choice mean that deana suing him might result in actual pay off for her. i'm glad he wants to waste the money on a wedding, a holiday for his family and **** like that, worst thing for deana supporters would have been if he tries to gamble with that money, at least a big chunk of that money will still be there when she leaves the house. the way things have played out, i can actually root for either luke a. or adam to win and deana still might get some money out of all this.

I dont think anyone is suing anybody, as far as I'm aware no offence has been committed that would warrant criminal charges so there will be no police prosecution. As regards a Civil prosecution it would cost more than the £50K in question.

The unpalatable truth is that somebody managed to win a place on a reality TV show whose nasty thuggish behaviour was rewarded with a large cash prize whilst the main victim of this will probably walk away empty handed.

Shame on BB producers for introducing this ridiculous WR nonsense and allowing the afore mentioned person to be involved in it....!!!