One of the best BB ends with a dreadful anti climax

[jet]

After what started out as one of the best BB has ended up with one of the worst finals. Much as I like Adam, Luke A, Luke S and Sara, they could never be described as 'entertaining' in the true sense of the word nor will any of them go down in BB history as one of the 'greats'.
As for Deana, who I dislike, if she wins it will be by default. Conor started the ball rolling for her and got her noticed so that every slight against her from then on had her marked as a poor victim and gained her a devoted fanbase. Some people don't like to think they are wrong so no matter how she conducted herself after that they block it out, justify her behaviour and vote vote vote to prove they were not mistaken about her. But without that story, she was really a boring, lazy HM who just happened to get the spotlight centred around her. So again, not a 'great' HM in her own right, and as I said before, is in the final by default.
'If only' are sad words - but if only Lauren, or Benedict, or Lydia, or Chris or Arron for example had been given the chance to show us more of who they were and had gone much further we would have had a final worthy of the promise of the launch.
Out of the ones we have left, the best of the bunch - Scott - has gone. To me, he was the only one left who deserved to win - and he came out to rapturous cheers. While others still in the house are booed!!! The whole thing is skewed, and a total farce....
Instead of taking it week by week and evaluating the HM's people seem to latch on to one person and stick to them stubbornly and justify their actions no matter what they are. That's human nature, I suppose, but it doesn't give us a true and worthy winner who really DESERVES it.

[Jimrod]

Conor didn't deserve to walk away with £50k just because the producers had their favourites either but **** happens.

[Lwize]

As long as an outsider wins, I'm good.

I project it'll be:

5. Luke S
4. Sara
3. Adam
2. Deana
1. Luke A

The producers screwed up by allowing nom discussions, leading to alliances, then trying to stop the runaway train. An "Us vs Them" series was set in motion, so a conclusion featuring one group or the other was inevitable. Voters went with the outsiders as the insiders imploded (or walked with £50K).

[Munchkins]

Brilliant series which will end perfectly if Deana wins :love:

[joeysteele]

After what started out as one of the best BB has ended up with one of the worst finals. Much as I like Adam, Luke A, Luke S and Sara, they could never be described as 'entertaining' in the true sense of word nor will any of them go down in BB history as one of the 'greats'.
As for Deana, who I dislike, if she wins it will be by default. Conor started the ball rolling for her and got her noticed so that every slight against her from then on had her marked as a poor victim and gained her a devoted fanbase. Some people don't like to think they are wrong so no matter how she conducted herself after that they block it out, justify her behaviour and vote vote vote to prove they were not mistaken about her. But without that story, she was really a boring, lazy HM who just happened to get the spotlight centred around her. So again, not a 'great' HM in her own right, and as I said before, is in the final by default.
'If only' are sad words - but if only Lauren, or Benedict, or Lydia, or Chris or Arron for example had been given the chance to show us more of who they were and had gone much further we would have had a final worthy of the promise of the launch.
Out of the ones we have left, the best of the bunch - Scott - has gone. To me, he was the only one left who deserved to win - and he came out to rapturous cheers. While others still in the house are booed!!! The whole thing is skewed, and a total farce....
Instead of taking it week by week and evaluating the HM's people seem to latch on to one person and stick to them stubbornly and justify their actions no matter what they are. That's human nature, I suppose, but it doesn't give us a true and worthy winner who really DESERVES it.

I read this and wondered if I could add anything to it, I couldn't, you have said it all really, I do completely agree with all you have said.
Really great post.

[Me. I Am Salman]

ffs there are so many of these threads, couldn't you just post this in one of the other ones

[jet]

Conor didn't deserve to walk away with £50k just because the producers had their favourites either but **** happens.

Totally agree. But people didn't vote for him to walk away with the 50k, did they.
I bet if he had stayed, he would be in the final. People would have gone for a Deana/Conor stand off. BB voting has become skewed and twisted - it is no longer about the most entertaining or deserving winner, it is about taking sides no matter what. The whole essence and purpose of BB has been lost somehow. Sad, sad, sad.

[Jords]

ffs there are so many of these threads, couldn't you just post this in one of the other ones

This.

The forum is full of people moaning about everything lol

[reece(:]

Stop moaning and get over it, it's the best finale of BB. Period.

[RodHull]

Brilliant series which will end perfectly if Deana wins :love:

Yep as long as a manipulative, duplicitous, overprivileged princess who has servants and treats her friends like her staff wins, then the series will be a success :nono:

If she wins it will be the worst result since Denise won CBB

[jet]

I read this and wondered if I could add anything to it, I couldn't, you have said it all really, I do completely agree with all you have said.
Really great post.

Thank you. I feel really strongly about this, so your words mean a lot.

[Brother Leon]

Adam getting to the final is amazing. Just a shame we get to miss out on the epic ending that is Conor beating Deana to the 100k which was a certainty almost.

[halfacrown]

Deana, or any of the others, will only win if they are the most popular with the public: fact. Apart from cheating and lying his way to £50K, Conor will be remembered for his vile comments about Deana. Instead of walking, Conor could have been true to his word and tried to win BB by staying, but he clearly didn't think he could do it.

[jet]

As long as an outsider wins, I'm good.

I project it'll be:

5. Luke S
4. Sara
3. Adam
2. Deana
1. Luke A

The producers screwed up by allowing nom discussions, leading to alliances, then trying to stop the runaway train. An "Us vs Them" series was set in motion, so a conclusion featuring one group or the other was inevitable. Voters went with the outsiders as the insiders imploded (or walked with £50K).

I see what you mean, but people complain of HM's being like 'sheep' when they may behave like sheep themselves and let themselves be led by the nose. Why would they let themselves have to choose between 'outsiders' or 'insiders' or for that matter 'Individuals' like Scott and Sara (I would never call them 'floaters' as not everyone wants to conform to a particular group).
I look at every HM individually, no matter what 'group' they belong to.
The producers didn't screw up - some of the viewers did if they let themselves follow and vote for the members of a particular group regardless of whether they liked them as individuals or not. That is not what BB should be about, is it? :conf:

[jyunga]

How do you even define the 'most deserving' winner? Different types of viewers are entertained by different types of HMs. Someone you think should get the money for how they acted might have been annoying as hell to someone else.

[jyunga]

How do you even define the 'most deserving' winner? Different types of viewers are entertained by different types of HMs. Someone you think should get the money for how they acted might have been annoying as hell to someone else.

[jet]

How do you even define the 'most deserving' winner? Different types of viewers are entertained by different types of HMs. Someone you think should get the money for how they acted might have been annoying as hell to someone else.

That's a very good point. But one thing BB viewers have always went for is consistency of personality...it was the one thing they never compromised on.
Until now... with Deana.

This is the first time I've ever considered we might get a winner by 'default' of purely sympathy votes which stem in many cases from just being stubborn and not wanting to back down.
Oh well. It's only once in the history of BB, and it will be remembered as such.

[jet]

Deana, or any of the others, will only win if they are the most popular with the public: fact. Apart from cheating and lying his way to £50K, Conor will be remembered for his vile comments about Deana. Instead of walking, Conor could have been true to his word and tried to win BB by staying, but he clearly didn't think he could do it.

Yes, Conor will be remembered for being vile and a cheat, and rightly so.

Deana will be remembered for being the recipient of Conor's vile rant and gaining huge sympathy votes no matter what her subsequent negative actions were... and not gaining votes purely on her own merit.

[jet]

This.

The forum is full of people moaning about everything lol

Or those who just post rude comments instead of replying intelligently to the OP's comments or just passing on it and moving on if they prefer.

[toronto_matt]

gonna be an AMAZINGGGGGGG FINAL!

[Pauline Wilson]

Personally I think the vote to save has ruined this series. Vote to evict is deeply ingrained in the shows format and the VTS is nothing more than an economical equation invented by the producers to get more votes. Every year the public vote off the biggest charachters and it ruins the show. This year was no exception. One thing I find amusing is that when we evict a real baddie, within 3 days everyone loves them on the outside. Casing example this year was chris, bendict and aaron. All hated but now we all want them back in.

[waterhog]

As long as an outsider wins, I'm good.

I project it'll be:

5. Luke S
4. Sara
3. Adam
2. Deana
1. Luke A

The producers screwed up by allowing nom discussions, leading to alliances, then trying to stop the runaway train. An "Us vs Them" series was set in motion, so a conclusion featuring one group or the other was inevitable. Voters went with the outsiders as the insiders imploded (or walked with £50K).

love your prediction - same as mine.

[realitytvsux]

I don't think it's been an anti climax at all. It's been pretty exciting all the way through, including this week. It's been one long bitch fest both in and outside of the house. O what fun ;)

[Maia]

Yep as long as a manipulative, duplicitous, overprivileged princess who has servants and treats her friends like her staff wins, then the series will be a success :nono:

If she wins it will be the worst result since Denise won CBB

:worship::worship::worship:

[joeysteele]

Yep as long as a manipulative, duplicitous, overprivileged princess who has servants and treats her friends like her staff wins, then the series will be a success :nono:

If she wins it will be the worst result since Denise won CBB

Like Mollie, I agree with you as to this too.

[MrWong]

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[smeagol]

id say its one of the best finals ever if not the best.

you have all 3 outsiders all of who'm have been targeted by the bully brigade and survived . so any one of those wins is a victory for good over evil.
sara is a nice person, luke s shouldn't be there but he is the best of a very bad bunch that went.
no one knows for certian who will win which makes it a great final.

i would of liked scott to be left in there still for the final and not of been a double eviction but you can blame bb for that for making luke s win the pass and for conor getting 50k otherwise he would of gone instead

[Jake.]

It will be a great final for me. Adam, Deana and Luke A are all deserving winners, so I will be content with any of them taking the prize. If Deana pulls it out the bag though :lovedup:

[Big Brother Cartoons uk]

I think this has been one of worst series ever, due to house predominantly populated by teenage thick as a bricko's. If it continues like this I don't think I can bare watching in future. Either that or the editing was so bad due to producers obsession with bitching. At the end of the day this was the only series not to have any walkers. So it can't have been that unpleasant in there, yet it looked like a hell hole due to backstabbing numptiness.

[Beso]

It's deana's parents who have the servants, it is NOT deana's decision.

[halfacrown]

Yes, Conor will be remembered for being vile and a cheat, and rightly so.

Deana will be remembered for being the recipient of Conor's vile rant and gaining huge sympathy votes no matter what her subsequent negative actions were... and not gaining votes purely on her own merit.

I will remember Deana for confronting Conor and Luke S; I think it is her assertiveness that makes her stand out. It should be remembered that she is still unaware of what Conor said but I wonder how surprised she'll be, given how nasty he was to her through the series. I'm amazed that you feel she's not getting votes ‘on her own merit’; the status of the 'outsiders' has been defined by being underdogs and voters love an underdog. The majority ‘insiders’ were vile generally, but especially to the ‘insiders’, so there has been a clear divide between the good guys and the bad guys.

[RodHull]

It's deana's parents who have the servants, it is NOT deana's decision.

Yeah and im sure she treats them with loads of respect cause she doesn't seem the vindictive type at all :dance:

Also she is a successful minor celeb in India, she is plenty rich on her own doesnt need her parents. Point is just the way she speaks to and treats Adam and Luke (her 'friends') you can tell she clearly would have no respect for her staff. Girls been expelled from 4 schools that doesn't happen by being nice and having integrity and morals now does it.

[Trasadkel1]

After what started out as one of the best BB has ended up with one of the worst finals. Much as I like Adam, Luke A, Luke S and Sara, they could never be described as 'entertaining' in the true sense of the word nor will any of them go down in BB history as one of the 'greats'.
As for Deana, who I dislike, if she wins it will be by default. Conor started the ball rolling for her and got her noticed so that every slight against her from then on had her marked as a poor victim and gained her a devoted fanbase. Some people don't like to think they are wrong so no matter how she conducted herself after that they block it out, justify her behaviour and vote vote vote to prove they were not mistaken about her. But without that story, she was really a boring, lazy HM who just happened to get the spotlight centred around her. So again, not a 'great' HM in her own right, and as I said before, is in the final by default.
'If only' are sad words - but if only Lauren, or Benedict, or Lydia, or Chris or Arron for example had been given the chance to show us more of who they were and had gone much further we would have had a final worthy of the promise of the launch.
Out of the ones we have left, the best of the bunch - Scott - has gone. To me, he was the only one left who deserved to win - and he came out to rapturous cheers. While others still in the house are booed!!! The whole thing is skewed, and a total farce....
Instead of taking it week by week and evaluating the HM's people seem to latch on to one person and stick to them stubbornly and justify their actions no matter what they are. That's human nature, I suppose, but it doesn't give us a true and worthy winner who really DESERVES it.

Such a good post and so true.

[Nedusa]

I think the final 3 days are going to be pretty boring, as there is nothing more going to happen in this show other than a comfortable 2/3 days for the HM to reminisce about their time in the house and discuss their future plans after they leave. With the BOTS show in the garden the other night and the degree of "contact" with the outside world the HM could be forgiven for thinking the show had actually ended.

I said in an earlier post that it would turn into a 3 day love-in but what I'm noticing now is that the remaining HM are using the airtime left to them to try and "connect" with the public. They suddenly seem to be having mini breakdowns or heart to heart chats in the diary room. So I guess in answer to my initial post question this is indeed how the HM are upping their game, by trying to sell their backstory to the public and try and connect with them on an emotional level.

Still too close to call....

[Scotty07]

:conf2:Well if all the most boring ones like Sara, Ashleigh, Luke S and Conor (by far the most boring first week, so should've gone then) didn't nominate the best ones that have gone like Lauren, Benedict, Lydia and Chris, then that would be a massive help.

The final could've been really dull like:

Ashleigh
Luke S
Sara
Scott
Conor

:sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:


Thank **** it's only two and not all five.:idc: :joker: Funny also because the likes of Caroline, Rebecca and Conor are also disgusted by the final, but again did they nominate the likes of Ashleigh, Sara and Luke S every week? Correct, the answer is no.:laugh2:

I have said it many times, but more housemates need to be up to give us more chance of getting the bores out early on by not voting to save them. If the nominations system stays, then the best housemates will continue to be up against one another in future series.

[icecakes]

After what started out as one of the best BB has ended up with one of the worst finals. Much as I like Adam, Luke A, Luke S and Sara, they could never be described as 'entertaining' in the true sense of the word nor will any of them go down in BB history as one of the 'greats'.
As for Deana, who I dislike, if she wins it will be by default. Conor started the ball rolling for her and got her noticed so that every slight against her from then on had her marked as a poor victim and gained her a devoted fanbase. Some people don't like to think they are wrong so no matter how she conducted herself after that they block it out, justify her behaviour and vote vote vote to prove they were not mistaken about her. But without that story, she was really a boring, lazy HM who just happened to get the spotlight centred around her. So again, not a 'great' HM in her own right, and as I said before, is in the final by default.
'If only' are sad words - but if only Lauren, or Benedict, or Lydia, or Chris or Arron for example had been given the chance to show us more of who they were and had gone much further we would have had a final worthy of the promise of the launch.
Out of the ones we have left, the best of the bunch - Scott - has gone. To me, he was the only one left who deserved to win - and he came out to rapturous cheers. While others still in the house are booed!!! The whole thing is skewed, and a total farce....
Instead of taking it week by week and evaluating the HM's people seem to latch on to one person and stick to them stubbornly and justify their actions no matter what they are. That's human nature, I suppose, but it doesn't give us a true and worthy winner who really DESERVES it.

I agree with joey, realy good post, agree with everything you said.

[Patrick]

Entertaining people never make the final. :laugh: Okay. We live in a country full of wankers who find people like Caroline and Arron dull.

[rocket]

A great end to a rubbish series spoilt by the vile , bitchy, foul mouth insiders
Just one thing left

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For LUKE S..............BYE.BYE

[iRyan]

It's a brilliant final. People keep going on about the entertaining people being gone, but none of them would've had a shot in hell of winning anyway except for maybe Lauren or Benedict. Yes people like Sara and Adam and Luke S weren't the most entertaining this series, but at least they are likable for the most part.

[boomoo]

Deana, or any of the others, will only win if they are the most popular with the public: fact. Apart from cheating and lying his way to £50K, Conor will be remembered for his vile comments about Deana. Instead of walking, Conor could have been true to his word and tried to win BB by staying, but he clearly didn't think he could do it.

It was a no brainer. 50K if he went against a maybe.

[boomoo]

:conf2:Well if all the most boring ones like Sara, Ashleigh, Luke S and Conor (by far the most boring first week, so should've gone then) didn't nominate the best ones that have gone like Lauren, Benedict, Lydia and Chris, then that would be a massive help.

The final could've been really dull like:

Ashleigh
Luke S
Sara
Scott
Conor

:sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:


Thank **** it's only two and not all five.:idc: :joker: Funny also because the likes of Caroline, Rebecca and Conor are also disgusted by the final, but again did they nominate the likes of Ashleigh, Sara and Luke S every week? Correct, the answer is no.:laugh2:

I have said it many times, but more housemates need to be up to give us more chance of getting the bores out early on by not voting to save them. If the nominations system stays, then the best housemates will continue to be up against one another in future series.

The problem is housemates will always nom the people they see as a threat. This year was spoilt by the nomination talk. In future anyone who discusses noms should automatically be up for nomination. That would put an end to that.

[boomoo]

It's deana's parents who have the servants, it is NOT deana's decision.

When my friend lived in India she had a servant who looked after her as a child and she had the greatest respect for her. She said she was like her second mother. Not all families treat their 'servants' as slaves.

[rionablue]

I tend to agree with Jet about one thing in particular. Deana was spotlighted once Conor had the vicious rant about her. Her popularity and chances of winning shot up. Remember Shilpa Shetty. When she went into celebrity big brother she had very little HOPE of winning as nobody had a notion who the hell she was. She was from a priviledged life much like Deana. Then the Jade incident spotlighted Shilipa made her very popular with the general public and eventually she won the series. I dont honestly think she deserved it and I dont think Deana does. They are both very nice girls and they should never have been bullied in any way but as housemates neither had or has winners qualities. I truly hope Deana doesnt win. I want Luke A or Sara to win. And I wouldnt have PICKED any of the former housemates with the exception of Scott to be in the final. I would swap Luke S for him any day but all the other eliminated housemates deserved to be booted out INCLUDING Lauren who was a tease and a moaner.

[jet]

It's a brilliant final. People keep going on about the entertaining people being gone, but none of them would've had a shot in hell of winning anyway except for maybe Lauren or Benedict. Yes people like Sara and Adam and Luke S weren't the most entertaining this series, but at least they are likable for the most part.

Yes, but we want someone to win who is likable AND entertaining. We didn't get to see enough of Chris, or Arron or Lydia or Benedict for example (who were entertaining) to know if they were ultimately more likable as the series unfolded.
Lauren was entertaining and mostly likable (though she had her faults) and she was picked on as much as - if not more so than Deana - by the Insiders, but she didn't play the victim card nor turn into a bitch herself as Deana did. Therefore it seems it was only Conor's rant that got Deana such huge support, no matter how boring she was or how bitchy she became. I mean, apart from being picked on, how entertaining or likable is she really? Is she a worthy winner in her own right? IMO, no, - far from it.

The Outsiders actually became more bitchy than the remaining Insiders once Caroline and Becky were gone. But by then the support for them was entrenched and people automatically voted for them no matter what the circumstances were, which is all wrong.
So to me this series has seen the best start and the worst ending - dominated by misguided loyalties and sheer bloody minded stubborness.