Moors Murderer Brady Reveals Victim's Details

[Mrluvaluva]

Police believe Moors murderer Ian Brady has revealed details about the location of the body of one of his victims.

It is thought Brady has disclosed the whereabouts of Keith Bennett - who has never been found - to one of his long-term visitors, Greater Manchester Police said in a statement.

It comes weeks after Winnie Johnson, who has bowel cancer and fears she may not have much longer to live, made a final plea to Brady to tell her where her son was buried.

The child was just 12 when he was snatched and murdered by Brady and accomplice Myra Hindley - who were responsible for the murders of five youngsters in the 1960s.

Greater Manchester Police added that a 49-year-old woman has been arrested in South Wales on suspicion of preventing the burial of a body without lawful exercise and remains in police custody for questions.

A force spokesman said: "On 30 July 2012, Greater Manchester Police received information that led officers to believe that Ian Brady had recently given details of the location of Keith Bennett's body to one of his long-term visitors.

"Officers in the cold case unit made inquiries to accuracy of this report and have since had extensive contact with Ashworth hospital and Keith's close family.

"As a result, warrants obtained under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act were executed at Ashworth hospital and a private address in South Wales today.

"A 49-year-old woman has been arrested in South Wales on suspicion of preventing the burial of a body without lawful exercise and remains in police custody for questioning. Searches of both locations are ongoing."


Sky (http://news.sky.com/story/973567/moors-murderer-brady-reveals-victims-details)


I hope this is the case and the family finally get some closure.

[M X]

Evil bastard.

[Ninastar]

wow, im hope all goes well.

[InOne]

Hope they do find it. Would be great for the family. I thought Brady had been taken to look for it before though and couldn't remember where it was? Cos Saddleworth moor just looked totally different.

[Mrluvaluva]

Hope they do find it. Would be great for the family. I thought Brady had been taken to look for it before though and couldn't remember where it was? Cos Saddleworth moor just looked totally different.

So he said. I don't think the police ever believed him though.

[Black Dagger]

He's a psychotic attention seeker, he knows exactly where he's buried, but he won't release it, it's all apart of his sick mind games. IMO.

But it'd be nice (the situation obviously is anything but) for his mum finally to give him a send-off... even if she's very ill herself.

[InOne]

So he said. I don't think the police ever believed him though.

It would most likely be hard for him to even find it now though, it was 40 years ago and possibly dark when they were out driving and buried the body. Sounds like more mind games. And the woman getting arrested is weird as well. I hope for the sake of Keith's mother it's true, it shouldn't have been news really, giving her more false hope.

[Vicky.]

You know what I dont get about this whole hidden bodies thing (and please dont think I'm ignorant D: )

Why dont they just get the dogs out to sniff them out or something? Yeah I get the moors are a big place, but surely they could have done it by now if they had started back when they found the bodies were in that area?

[Novo]

I don't get what happened with that woman being arrested? why exactly was she arrested?

[InOne]

I don't get what happened with that woman being arrested? why exactly was she arrested?

Witholding information I think.

[Mrluvaluva]

It would most likely be hard for him to even find it now though, it was 40 years ago and possibly dark when they were out driving and buried the body. Sounds like more mind games. And the woman getting arrested is weird as well. I hope for the sake of Keith's mother it's true, it shouldn't have been news really, giving her more false hope.

That has always been a possibility, as it is so long ago now, but they could have buried Keith near some kind of landmark, like a rock formation, or something similar. It could all well be mind games, and Brady doesn't really know. Just some way to get more attention. The police will always act on any information while there is some hope. I just hope for his mothers sake, and peace of mind, that they do find him, and she can lay her son to rest.

If he has told the woman where he is, there is no reason for her not to tell the police, even if she is a psychiatrist or of a similar position, and claiming "patient confidentiality". She should do the decent thing.

[Lee.]

I would have said this is all just a lot of ****e on Brady's part and he's just playng with the poor woman, but the 49 year old being arrested confuses me....why has she actually been arrested? There must be something more to all this I guesss?

[Mrluvaluva]

I would have said this is all just a lot of ****e on Brady's part and he's just playng with the poor woman, but the 49 year old being arrested confuses me....why has she actually been arrested? There must be something more to all this I guesss?

Basically, the police have reason to believe that Brady has informed her of the spot where Keith is buried. She will not disclose this information, and so they have arrested her on "suspicion of preventing the burial of a body without lawful exercise", so they have been able to take her in for further questioning, in the hope that she will relent and divulge said details.

[Lee.]

Basically, the police have reason to believe that Brady has informed her of the spot where Keith is buried. She will not disclose this information, and so they have arrested her on "suspicion of preventing the burial of a body without lawful exercise", so they have been able to take her in for further questioning, in the hope that she will relent and divulge said details.

Oh right... well I really hope for that poor woman's sake that she can give some useful information.... then by rights, she should be locked up too!

[joeysteele]

I hope this ends with the Mother being able to bury her son's remains at last, properly and give that poor woman peace of mind after all her years of grief and torture as to this horrific crime.

[Kazanne]

Keiths mom has cancer,and has never given up on trying to find her son,so for her sake it would be good if for once this low life did something decent and not send the police on a wild goose chance again,she has suffered enough,so hopefully he will be found and given a proper burial.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

maybe this is just me being stupid but does it really matter where the body is :conf2:

hes dead, she lost her son such a long time ago and she is still wanting to know where the body is? i just dont see why it is so important

[joeysteele]

Keiths mom has cancer,and has never given up on trying to find her son,so for her sake it would be good if for once this low life did something decent and not send the p[olice on a wild goose chance again,she has suffered enough,so hopefully he will be found and given a proper burial.

I know, I was looking back over this story and there was a picture of her a good while back just standing on the moors, wishing she could get his remains and give them a decent burial with the full respect her son should have had.

I feel so sad for her, bad enough losing her son in the horrific way she did but to be not able to, if she wants to,as and when, to go and visit his grave and just know where she had him laid for that final time must be devastating for her.
So cruel that she has had this torture for al these decades.

[Livia]

Pump him full of sodium pentothal and make the bugger tell. Then shoot him in the head so the world is rid of this disgusting excuse for a human. Sorry if that sounds too woolly and liberal.

[Kazanne]

maybe this is just me being stupid but does it really matter where the body is :conf2:

hes dead, she lost her son such a long time ago and she is still wanting to know where the body is? i just dont see why it is so important

Surprised this question was even asked,of course it matters to his family

[Kazanne]

Pump him full of sodium pentothal and make the bugger tell. Then shoot him in the head so the world is rid of this disgusting excuse for a human. Sorry if that sounds too woolly and liberal.

Livia you are a cruel woman,lol but I agree wholeheartedly:xyxwave:

[Kizzy]

Pump him full of sodium pentothal and make the bugger tell. Then shoot him in the head so the world is rid of this disgusting excuse for a human. Sorry if that sounds too woolly and liberal.

Agree, I wouldn't shoot him though..It's too quick.

[billy123]

Police now claim that the dirtbag brady didnt actually reveal any location details watch out that omah doesnt try and get prissy about it.

[GiRTh]

maybe this is just me being stupid but does it really matter where the body is :conf2:

hes dead, she lost her son such a long time ago and she is still wanting to know where the body is? i just dont see why it is so importantYou clearly dont have children.

[billy123]

Livia you are a cruel woman,lol but I agree wholeheartedly:xyxwave:I dont agree!
He is clearly suffering in prison and has tried to take his own life more than once keep it up his pain is a comforting thought.

[Livia]

I dont agree!
He is clearly suffering in prison and has tried to take his own life more than once keep it up his pain is a comforting thought.

I think it's time we saved the cost of keeping him alive and maybe paid it out to families of his victims as compensation for pain and suffering. I like to think what he's got coming after he dies is going to be infinitely worse than anything we could put him through while he's alive.

[billy123]

I think it's time we saved the cost of keeping him alive and maybe paid it out to families of his victims as compensation for pain and suffering. I like to think what he's got coming after he dies is going to be infinitely worse than anything we could put him through while he's alive.While i see the gratification it might bring some people and the possible financial savings why should this scumbag who wants to die get to die when people like Tony Nicklinson (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9478399/Assisted-suicide-comment-euthanasia-puts-the-vulnerable-at-risk.html) are forced to live?

[Munchkins]

maybe this is just me being stupid but does it really matter where the body is :conf2:

hes dead, she lost her son such a long time ago and she is still wanting to know where the body is? i just dont see why it is so important

Closure... wanting your child to have the burial and funeral they deserve..

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

You clearly dont have children.

no but i have people that i care about and i know if something like this happened to them i wouldnt really care about where their body was buried

its not going to bring them back is it

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Closure... wanting your child to have the burial and funeral they deserve..

yeah i got that but they dont really need a pile of bones to have some kind of memorial service for someone do they

what about people that die at sea and stuff and they never find the bodies?

[Mrluvaluva]

no but i have people that i care about and i know if something like this happened to them i wouldnt really care about where their body was buried

its not going to bring them back is it

Really? Each to their own I suppose. People who die at sea, or in air crashes etc, I suppose can never be found, and there is not much someone can do about that. I get what you are saying, but I suppose it's to do with people's ways of thinking. It's down to the individual. His mother, I presume, feels he is still out there somewhere alone, and I can relate to that. She needs to feel he is at rest, so she can be too.

[Munchkins]

no but i have people that i care about and i know if something like this happened to them i wouldnt really care about where their body was buried

its not going to bring them back is it

How do you know though? unless someone you know has been raped and then brutally murdered, you can't..

[Vanessa]

This is terrible. :(

[Livia]

While i see the gratification it might bring some people and the possible financial savings why should this scumbag who wants to die get to die when people like Tony Nicklinson (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9478399/Assisted-suicide-comment-euthanasia-puts-the-vulnerable-at-risk.html) are forced to live?

I've just mentioned this in another thread. The court did not grant him the right to die because it is not for the courts to change a law, it is for parliament and it is going to be discussed after the recess. I agree that he should not be forced to live if that is not his wish.

[MTVN]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-19305055

The mothers died now, shame

[Iceman]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-19305055

The mothers died now, shame

Saw this on Sky, it's terribly sad. :(

[Marc]

His mum died :(

I wonder if she felt relieved his body was going to be found and let go

[Mrluvaluva]

Moors murderer Ian Brady wrote a letter about where he buried victim Keith Bennett, 12, police now believe.

Officers have been investigating whether Brady gave details of Keith's remains to his mental health advocate, after claims she made in August.

Detectives initially found no evidence of a letter but have now found the envelope described by Jackie Powell, which was believed to hold the details.

Keith is the only one of 74-year-old Brady's five victims never to be found.

Ms Powell's claim that Brady had handed her an envelope which contained three letters, including one for Keith Bennett's mother Winnie Johnson, was published in news outlets ahead of her appearance in a Channel 4 documentary.

Following the publication of the claim, Ms Powell, from Carmarthenshire, was arrested on suspicion of preventing a lawful burial and was bailed.

In the subsequent broadcast of the documentary, Ms Powell - who has acted as Brady's mental health advocate since 1999 - described an envelope on which the killer had written "to be opened on the event of my death".

Brady has been on successive hunger strikes since 1999 in an attempt to kill himself, but is sectioned under the Mental Health Act so he is prevented from taking his own life.

A Greater Manchester Police spokesman said that after a search of documents taken from Ms Powell's house, an empty envelope with the wording described had been found, but officers did not know what had been inside.

He said inquiries were continuing into whether any letters were still in existence, but said detectives did not believe any such documents would pinpoint the body's location.

Brady and Myra Hindley murdered five children between 1963 and 1965. Three were known to have been buried on Saddleworth Moor near Manchester. A fourth victim was found at Brady's home.

Mrs Johnson, who died in August, shortly after the police investigation into the claims about the letter began, believed her son was also buried on Saddleworth Moor.


BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-20760479)