Jasmine calls Danica a prostitute

[Jordan.]

Big Brother Live ‏@BBUKLive

11.44pm: Did we just hear that?! Referring to Danica and Lorenzo, in earshot, Jasmine sighs "...the prince and the prostitute". Owch! #cbb

Thank god she got put up. It's all gonna kick off :joker:

[Jords]

Bit harsh but :laugh2:

[chuff me dizzy]

What else is she? she flashes her minge for a pair of shoes, she IS a *****

[Shaun]

:o LOL

[Livia]

How do you define a prostitute? Someone who gives sexual favours for profit. As much as I dislike Jasmine it sounds pretty accurate to me.

[Josy]

Oh dear :laugh:

[reece(:]

Well she's spot on about both to be fair, as much as I like Danica she gets naked for free goods

[Indy]

Looking at some of the items that have been purchased for her in exchange for her "favors", sounds pretty accurate

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1720170

[Black Dagger]

OH JESUS CHRIST. :laugh:

This bitch is brilliant, why is she going on Wednesday? :bored:

[Doogle]

She's making the most of her short time in the house already :worship:

[chuff me dizzy]

How do you define a prostitute? Someone who gives sexual favours for profit. As much as I dislike Jasmine it sounds pretty accurate to me.

Of course she is ,just because she does what she does online,doesnt change the fact shes a *****

[cassieparis]

She is a sex worker. No judgement but it's true.

[Jordan.]

Big Brother Live ‏@BBUKLive

11.48pm: Jasmine is ploughing into Lorenzo's past - right in front of him. A dignified silence is his response. Ashley is amazed. #cbb

Still going for it

[MrWong]

Looking at some of the items that have been purchased for her in exchange for her "favors", sounds pretty accurate

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1720170

:eek: All the stuff that's been bought for her.

I'm thinking of starting my very own wish list.

[Livia]

I wonder when someone's going to turn it around and talk about Jasmine's illustrious past?

[Josy]

FFS I really wish we had live feed

[JamesBond]

I'm sure she's taken up some indecent proposals for the right price.

[Jords]

FFS I really wish we had live feed

Just gonna say this :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

FFS I really wish we had live feed

Me too !! :bawling::bawling:

[Livia]

:eek: All the stuff that's been bought for her.

I'm thinking of starting my very own wish list.

I have a list I keep PMing to Marc but I think he's ignoring me.

[vortex]

Thats accurate, Jasmine is gonna put the house upside down and if she survives I can already see many votes going her way.

[Jordan.]

Looking at some of the items that have been purchased for her in exchange for her "favors", sounds pretty accurate

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1720170

Is this serious? Someone bought her a £30,000 Audi http://www.bimmerteam.hu/forum/images/smilies/uhoh2.gif

[chuff me dizzy]

And come on, we are all adults on here, they dont buy her cars and designer shoes just for smiling do they ? SLAPPER !!!!!!!!!

[cassieparis]

Is this serious? Someone bought her a £30,000 Audi http://www.bimmerteam.hu/forum/images/smilies/uhoh2.gif

She must be gold plated where it counts :wink:

[rionablue]

Jas is right. There is no way of 'dressing up'what Danica is doing online. Say it how it is girl. Keep our Jas please

[Jordan.]

Is this serious? Someone bought her a £30,000 Audi http://www.bimmerteam.hu/forum/images/smilies/uhoh2.gif

Oh I missed the £167,059.00 diamond pendant....

[Me. I Am Salman]

Love her :love:

[Black Dagger]

Oh I missed the £167,059.00 diamond pendant....

How do I get into this gig?

Jesus.

[chuff me dizzy]

Im thinking of going into this line of work ,be handy cash for Grandkids Christmas gifts :evilgrin:

[Josy]

Cheeky bitch had a cheek to ask for not 1 but 2 Ipads on that list, and she got them too :idc:

[Jack_]

I LOVE this woman. Who the **** in their right mind would want her out? She's going to carry this series.

Or of course as an alternative we could have Rhian sit in the background? That sounds highly enthralling.

[chuff me dizzy]

Cheeky bitch had a cheek to ask for not 1 but 2 Ipads on that list, and she got them too :idc:

Greedy cow !!

[Josy]

:laugh:

[Black Dagger]

Greedy cow !!

Get her told Chuff.

Like, I'm baffled, why are people spending this money on her?

K, she's alright looking, but does she really get this many guys dicks hard or st? I don't get it.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

she is amazing

will anybody have the guts to confront her though :suspect:

i think they will all just sit there and remain silent

[cassieparis]

who are these mugs????

[Lee.]

Here's her current wishlist... it looks like you can just buy her something without her having to do anything. The $8 nail varnish looks ****e tbh.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wishlist/13BYUTQR69YHX/

[chuff me dizzy]

Get her told Chuff.

Like, I'm baffled, why are people spending this money on her?

K, she's alright looking, but does she really get this many guys dicks hard or st? I don't get it.

If Im being honest Im not sure what she does, but for a young girl to flash whatever she flashes ( and its NOT a smile:nono:) KNOWING dirty old men and women are bashing one out watching her :shocked::shocked: is enough to turn a normal persons stomach ,Im making myself gip here !!!!!

[Shaun]

If we'd just had one night of live feed, this would have gone down as a BB classic :(

[Munchkins]

Wow how does Danica get that much its ridiculous
she's the only housemate to not have a wikipedia page which i was shocked by
I want to go into this line of work and get all these gifts xD

[chuff me dizzy]

Here's her current wishlist... it looks like you can just buy her something without her having to do anything. The $8 nail varnish looks ****e tbh.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wishlist/13BYUTQR69YHX/

Let me get this straight :conf::conf::conf::conf: She flashes her Mucky Mary for a nail varnish

[Jack_]

With the way things are going (and hopefully continue to go), they should extend the show tomorrow.

[Indy]

If that's all one has to do to be famous, why was Rebekah on regular BB12 instead of CBB? She's in the same line of work.

[Livia]

If I was going to flash my schmundie on the Internet it'd have to be for a lot more than a bottle of nail varnish.

[reece(:]

Let me get this straight :conf::conf::conf::conf: She flashes her Mucky Mary for a nail varnish
she even said and defended "it's work, gotta do it". Even worse asking for products then money in my eyes

[chuff me dizzy]

If I was going to flash my schmundie on the Internet it'd have to be for a lot more than a bottle of nail varnish.

It cant JUST be flashing though can it ?Jesus this is too deep for me at this time of night

[Indy]

If I was going to flash my schmundie on the Internet it'd have to be for a lot more than a bottle of nail varnish.

Maybe it's pay as you go - varnish gets you an ankle, iPad gets you topless, diamonds get you gyno's eye view

[chuff me dizzy]

she even said and defended "it's work, gotta do it". Even worse asking for products then money in my eyes

Its not work its a choice, McDonalds or Primark is work, flashing you bits is a choice dirty cow

[chuff me dizzy]

On that dirty note its goodnight from me !!

[Livia]

It cant JUST be flashing though can it ?Jesus this is too deep for me at this time of night

It couldn't possibly be all it is. Considering the stuff she's been given I'd imagine people would feel short-changed.

[Iceman]

She's a filthy, disgusting, self centred *****.

[Munchkins]

It couldn't possibly be all it is. Considering the stuff she's been given I'd imagine people would feel short-changed.

She doesn't meet ANY of the people in person though
its just crazy

[Livia]

Maybe it's pay as you go - varnish gets you an ankle, iPad gets you topless, diamonds get you gyno's eye view

LOL... pay as you go.... And there's me thinking there was no romance left in the world.

[Jack_]

Oh I hate all this prudish, moral high ground stuff. Was the same thing when Denise got her baps out.

Seriously...I'm not even a fan, but get over it. She can do what she wants with her life, and to be honest if people are willing to buy her things for whatever reason, that's their choice. Leave them and her be. I hate all this fake disgust.

[Livia]

She doesn't meet ANY of the people in person though
its just crazy

In the immortal words of Mandy Rice-Davis, another infamous prostitute... well she would say that, wouldn't she.

[Gillian-73]

It cant JUST be flashing though can it ?Jesus this is too deep for me at this time of night

30k ,167k no chance is that all it is

[cassieparis]

She doesn't meet ANY of the people in person though
its just crazy

there isn't a sex worker in the world that doesn't do "dates"
the online facade is for her mother.

[Locke.]

She doesn't actually sleep with them for these gifts does she? Just.. strips off on a webcam?

[JTM45]

There's far worse things going on in the World than this to be honest and people doing far worse things for far less reward.

She's not doing anyone any harm and let's face it, if someone can afford to gift her a 30 grand car then what's the problem.:shrug:

[Munchkins]

No seriously she doesn't actually meet any of them, thats what rinsing is about.. they just do things on Webcam i think, and offer them friendship haha

[Josy]

*making a list on amazon be back soon*









:joker:

[Livia]

Oh I hate all this prudish, moral high ground stuff. Was the same thing when Denise got her baps out.

Seriously...I'm not even a fan, but get over it. She can do what she wants with her life, and to be honest if people are willing to buy her things for whatever reason, that's their choice. Leave them and her be. I hate all this fake disgust.

If she wants to be a prostitute, then that's her choice. I have absolutely no problem with that or the misguided sods who spend their cash on her. However, she is a housemate in CELEBRITY Big Brother. Why? Because she's a sex worker.

As this is a Big Brother forum it's going to be discussed, so I respectfully suggest you get over it.

[Lee.]

Right, would anybody here like to buy me a new PS3? I'll sing "I've Got A Lovely Bunch of Coconuts" on cam for them

[Black Dagger]

Right, would anybody here like to buy me a new PS3? I'll sing "I've Got A Lovely Bunch of Coconuts" on cam for them

OMG, this tbh. :joker:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i wonder what she had to do to get that 30k car though

bet she put eels up her muff or something

[Munchkins]

That's what makes it all more peculiar that she doesn't meet them.. doesn't make it the usual situation
well whatever works i guess.. id love an Audi free

[Monkey Slut]

No seriously she doesn't actually meet any of them, thats what rinsing is about.. they just do things on Webcam i think, and offer them friendship haha

Isn't that why she disliked the show's name being changed? Because the other girls where going on dates etc whilst Danica was just on webcam. I remember one part of the show where people were paying to watch her horse riding.....

[Livia]

There's far worse things going on in the World than this to be honest and people doing far worse things for far less reward.

She's not doing anyone any harm and let's face it, if someone can afford to gift her a 30 grand car then what's the problem.:shrug:

The problem, as I said in a previous post, is that she's in 'Celebrity' Big Brother for being what is essentially a prostitute.

[Munchkins]

Isn't that why she disliked the show's name being changed? Because the other girls where going on dates etc whilst Danica was just on webcam. I remember one part of the show where people were paying to watch her horse riding.....

Yupp. some of them do, but she doesn't - thats why she was annoyed with the title

[Iceman]

Isn't that why she disliked the show's name being changed? Because the other girls where going on dates etc whilst Danica was just on webcam. I remember one part of the show where people were paying to watch her horse riding.....

So people paid to watch her ride? :suspect:

[Livia]

That's what makes it all more peculiar that she doesn't meet them.. doesn't make it the usual situation
well whatever works i guess.. id love an Audi free

Munchkins, study hard, get a good job and buy your own Audi.

[KingOfTheMods]

To all the people deriding Danica and thinking that haggard twat holds some sort of moral high ground, get a grip. She is well known for trying to get a grip on rich and famous people. She's more or less admitted she's gutted she can't sell her stories about Simon Cowell for legal reason's. She's an absolute oxygen thief and you'll see this if she stays in.

[Jack_]

If she wants to be a prostitute, then that's her choice. I have absolutely no problem with that or the misguided sods who spend their cash on her. However, she is a housemate in CELEBRITY Big Brother. Why? Because she's a sex worker.

As this is a Big Brother forum it's going to be discussed, so I respectfully suggest you get over it.

Well in that case, that's fair enough. I actually happen to agree, not overly bothered as in every CBB series there's quite a few nobodies, but yeah, I can't disagree there. From what I've seen in this thread though it seems most are complaining about her profession, that's what I take issue with.

[MrWong]

I couldn't give a **** if Danica's a ho tbh.

I'm going to enjoy watching her destroy the skinny, hard-faced, bitter hag by simply existing.

[Lee.]

Why is a cot blanket no1 on her list? :suspect:

[Livia]

To all the people deriding Danica and thinking that haggard twat holds some sort of moral high ground, get a grip. She is well known for trying to get a grip on rich and famous people. She's more or less admitted she's gutted she can't sell her stories about Simon Cowell for legal reason's. She's an absolute oxygen thief and you'll see this if she stays in.

Although I'm at a loss as to why Danica is in the house in the first place apart from being decorative, I have to agree. I said earlier I'm waiting for someone to bring up Jasmine's own particular talents and skills that make her a "celebrity".

[reece(:]

id love an Audi free

as long as you don't do any dirty dealings online like Danica

[Novo]

Situation will step in soon if she carries on bullying poor Danica.. she won't last long when he gets going

[Livia]

Situation will step in soon if she carries on bullying poor Danica.. she won't last long when he gets going

Perhaps he'll buy her something nice.

[Munchkins]

as long as you don't do any dirty dealings online like Danica

I won't :laugh:

[Novo]

Perhaps he'll buy her something nice.

He'll send the grenade packing

[iRyan]

Danica doesn't show her tits or anything for the gifts, I saw the Rinsing show. She just has Skype conversations with them or calls them - like a "pretend" girlfriend but doesn't do anything sexual. It's basically for lonely men who want to feel appreciated by a gorgeous girl.

[Colbert-Bump]

I know Danica's last boyfriend, she's not a 'prostitute' guys. I've heard a lot of stories about famous models who do escort with fans but not her. She's very down to earth & hates the glamour industry. If saddos want to give her gifts, more fool them. I think Jasmine might be in for a big surprise if she confronts Danica, the quiet ones are usually the worse to pick on.

[Soniamad]

Of all the 'pretty' young girls in there, I think Danica seems the nicest one. She's able to have a laugh, and is quite pleasant. Flirtatious behaviour seems to come naturally to her. I mean, she seems to have spent most of the day walking about in a sports bra. But, if Luke S can go shirtless, why shouldn't she?

Thus far, she's really inoffensive. I understand that her choice of lifestyle indicates a different moral standard to most. I wouldn't feel right about doing what she does. It's almost as if she's taking advantage of lonely guys. But, she's a pleasant enough little thing. We were all young once. And I know that my morals of 20 years ago, are very different to my morals now.

[armand.kay]

:laugh3: I miss just one episode and everything kicks off what is it with this house that makes people so bitchy. :laugh:

[armand.kay]

Why is a cot blanket no1 on her list? :suspect:
One of her clients impregnated her? :shrug:

[armand.kay]

Hmmm I have always wanted a I pad... What do you guys think ill get for flashing my bellend? :suspect:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i will buy you a 2nd gen nano if you flash me

[paper-cut-exit]

Hmmm I have always wanted a I pad... What do you guys think ill get for flashing my bellend? :suspect:

A swift kick to the balls maybe? or perhaps a criminal record and an entry in the sex offenders registry? - unless of course you show your bellend to Brian or Julian that is - in which case, I shudder to think wtf might happen in that kinda senario.

[Jake.]

Just read on Live Updates that last night Jasmine referred to Prince Lorenzo and Danica as 'the Prince and the prostitute' and this morning has made her cry!

[Livia]

There was a massive thread on this last night, JH.

[Jake.]

There was a massive thread on this last night, JH.

:laugh: Apologies ahah thought it was strange that no one else had picked up on it, need to scroll down the page more.

[Livia]

:laugh: Apologies ahah thought it was strange that no one else had picked up on it, need to scroll down the page more.

Well that'll teach you to have an early night on a Friday, won't it.

[Jake.]

Well that'll teach you to have an early night on a Friday, won't it.

:laugh:

[armand.kay]

i will buy you a 2nd gen nano if you flash me
:shocked::shocked::shocked:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

:shocked::shocked::shocked:

http://i.imgur.com/GhKtb.png

[arista]

FFS I really wish we had live feed


Yes thats wnen its needed


Last night saying Feck Off to the Prince
we could see her boiling over

[Roy Mars III]

to be honest, Jasmine came into the house looking for a fight, Danica is a perfect target

[MeMyselfAndI]

If I was going to flash my schmundie on the Internet it'd have to be for a lot more than a bottle of nail varnish.

What about a £180,000 diamond pendant or a £30,000 aldi :shocked:

[Gillian-73]

to be honest, Jasmine came into the house looking for a fight, Danica is a perfect target

She did. I said the same when Jasmine was talking about Danica in the diary room.

[Richie]

She basically is a prostitute...

[Kizzy]

Oh hark at all this danika is a prostitute rubbish....
I didn't hear all the hate for benedict who actually IS a prostitute.
She has an online peep show, but nobody touches her. I don't see the problem?....

[Livia]

She basically is a prostitute...

Yes. Which is fine. But I don't see how it makes her a celebrity. And therein lies the problem that most people have with her.

[Marc]

Make that a classy prostitute*

[thesheriff443]

oh dear.

[armand.kay]

Shes not just a prostitute. Shes a fancy internet prostitute. :evilgrin:

[MTVN]

I think they prefer the term "sex worker" these days

[thesheriff443]

Oh hark at all this danika is a prostitute rubbish....
I didn't hear all the hate for benedict who actually IS a prostitute.
She has an online peep show, but nobody touches her. I don't see the problem?....

do you know for sure?
its just peek a boo.lol

[Marc]

Yes. Which is fine. But I don't see how it makes her a celebrity. And therein lies the problem that most people have with her.

Isn't she also a famous lingerie model? That might be her claim to fame?

Also most people in the celeb BB arent actually celebrities

[Marc]

And to be honest Jasmine has slept with famous men before, and I'm sure some intentions were for the financial benefits, be it gifts or shopping sprees or just having somebody with a bit of money. Don't see her dating some guy who is struggling financially.

Perhaps, when defining the word prostitute some of her intentions could define her as a prostitute also.

[Ellen]

I think Danika was a model before she started her wish list website.
I dont think she is a prostitute at all, she dresses sexily on a website but does not have sex or promise any sex act in exchange for the gifts she gets, i dont think she gets naked but im not 100% on that.
Jasmine is desperatly trying to sell her story on sleeping with Simon Cowell but he has slapped an injuction on her. Makes me laugh how she can question somone else's morals when hers are not that pristine.

[Marc]

Very well put RE: Jasmine

[thesheriff443]

women be takeing and men be giveing.

[cassieparis]

Sex workers are human beings who exploit their sexuality and their mind body and soul's are exploited degraded and plundered in return.

They trade their sexual selves for material wealth. Whether it's chat or visual stuff, physical contact or not if the other person is getting off through this contact and they pay you for it you're a ho'

But that's okay!! As long as you take responsibility for the disintegration of your soul.

If it walks like a duck......

[MrWong]

I think Danika was a model before she started her wish list website.
I dont think she is a prostitute at all, she dresses sexily on a website but does not have sex or promise any sex act in exchange for the gifts she gets, i dont think she gets naked but im not 100% on that.
Jasmine is desperatly trying to sell her story on sleeping with Simon Cowell but he has slapped an injuction on her. Makes me laugh how she can question somone else's morals when hers are not that pristine.

This. Especially the part in bold.

[seandion]

Jasmine the only one with the guts to say to her face what everyone is actually thinking

[jet]

Yes. Which is fine. But I don't see how it makes her a celebrity. And therein lies the problem that most people have with her.

And why I loved Harvey for being so honest when he nominated her...

[lostalex]

Jasmine is absolutely as much of a prostitute as Danica is. the only difference is that Danica is not stupid enuf to get pregnant from her tricks. (or she's at least smart enuf to get an abortion)

[rogerb]

How do you define a prostitute? Someone who gives sexual favours for profit. As much as I dislike Jasmine it sounds pretty accurate to me.
that makes a hell of a lot of prostututes, you never had a dinner bought for you?

[Kizzy]

If you date a guy and go out to dinner, if he pays then happen to have sex the same evening that makes you a prostitute?...
JUST WOW!

[Vanessa]

What Danica does makes me very uncomfortable. I don't like it at all. It's exploitation and it's wrong. :(

[Raph]

Wow this is sounding like such a trashy CBB - so glad i'm not watching.

Normal Big Brother > Celebrity Big Brother.

[lostalex]

She basically is a prostitute...


umm, no. A prostitute by definition sells sex. Danica has never sold sex in any way shape or form.

Saying Danica is a prostitute is like calling An author that writes erotic fiction a prostitute. she's selling the FANTASY, she' not selling any actual sex.

By your definition Jackie Collins is a prostitute.

[cassieparis]

that makes a hell of a lot of prostututes, you never had a dinner bought for you?
We've all had dinner brought for us honey! But we don't necessarily strike that type of a bargain when we do. Some guys just like to think their entitled. Mistakenly. Illegally. Criminally.

[Monkey Slut]

Wow this is sounding like such a trashy CBB - so glad i'm not watching.

Normal Big Brother > Celebrity Big Brother.

Do you really need to keep posting that? Personally, if I wasn't interested in watching a show, I wouldn't even enter topics about it.....

[Kizzy]

We've all had dinner brought for us honey! But we don't necessarily strike that type of a bargain when we do. Some guys just like to think their entitled. Mistakenly. Illegally. Criminally.

Tell me about it, we've all had that stunned mullet face when you say goodnight...Like they think they paid for more than chicken in a basket!

[cassieparis]

Tell me about it, we've all had that stunned mullet face when you say goodnight...Like they think they paid for more than chicken in a basket!

.... with money off coupons!!

[tonysoprano0316]

It's hilarious reading all the bitter and jealous women on here calling Danica a "prostitute" and a "sex worker".

Did none of you watch the Sex Lies And Rinsing Guys show?

There was three girls featured, two of which met up with guys and were glorified escorts, Danica was featured because she was the most famous of the three girls yet did the least and made the most money.

Also, she doesn't "flash her bits" on cam, she basically chats to lonely blokes, they are paying her and buying her gifts in exchange for her being nice to them, she's not performing sex acts in her bedroom on webcam or anything, the men pay her to be their "extremely pretty online friend".

Yes it is quite sad that the men are reduced to this, but in no way is she a "sex worker" or a "prostitute".

She was (and still is to my knowledge) a glamour model appearing in all the top lads mags, hence the interest in her from large groups of men, if you go online you can find any number of good looking girls to "flash their bits" on cam for you, Danica has found a niche where all she does is chat to them and offer "friendship".

I'm not in favour of it, I think it is exploitative and taking advantage of men with low self esteem, but it definitely isn't prostitution.

And for those women who are justifying labelling her a prostitute by saying things like "Sex workers are human beings who exploit their sexuality" are talking utter crap.

By that logic, every girl who flutters her eyelashes at a bloke on a night out and gets a drink bought is a sex worker.

Are you telling me that none of you women have "exploited your sexuality" or flirted with a man in order to get a drink bought?

If you don't like the woman, fair enough, but at least give reasons why you dislike her rather than saying things that make it blatantly obvious you are jealous of her looks.

Plus, how hypocritical is it to call Danica a "sex worker" while simultaneously defending Jasmine?

On the very show that made her famous (Make Me A Supermodel) she bragged of her lesbian affairs, she is in the house for having affairs with Simon Cowell and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Are you saying that ISN'T an example of "exploiting her sexuality" in order to get ahead in the celebrity world?

[Gillian-73]

Tell me about it, we've all had that stunned mullet face when you say goodnight...Like they think they paid for more than chicken in a basket!

Absolutely this ^^^^

[Gizmo]

It's hilarious reading all the bitter and jealous women on here calling Danica a "prostitute" and a "sex worker".


Jealousy and bitterness from your perception but believe it or not some women don't aspire to be like her. You might find that hard to believe but trust me it's true.

[cassieparis]

umm, no. A prostitute by definition sells sex. Danica has never sold sex in any way shape or form.

Saying Danica is a prostitute is like calling An author that writes erotic fiction a prostitute. she's selling the FANTASY, she' not selling any actual sex.

By your definition Jackie Collins is a prostitute.

Danica is a sex worker. Rinsing is a fetish. Many professional dominatrices don't touch anyone Yet their clients get off and they get paid and it's sexual.
I'd love to buy Thomas Kretschmann lots of gifts from his wish list. It would give me immense pleasure. Lots of pleasure. Although I am loathed to objectify him. :hugesmile:
I don't believe the majority of J Collins' readers are seeking physical contact with her or just her direct attention. Nor are they looking to get off at the turning of every page. I loved Lady Boss but it doesn't even begin to match being rinsed by Thomas. :nono:

[tonysoprano0316]

Jealousy and bitterness from your perception but believe it or not some women don't aspire to be like her. You might find that hard to believe but trust me it's true.

I'm not saying women should aspire to be like her, I'm not in favour of what she does, I'm not in favour of MOST of the occupations that 90% of the Celebrity Big Brother housemates do, the vast majority of them are famous for questionable reasons, kiss and tells etc.

But calling someone a "sex worker" when they clearly aren't is just stupidity.

First of all she isn't having sex with them, secondly she isn't doing anything sexual in front of them for them to get off to, thirdly they aren't getting off to it because if they were she would end the Skype session.

[Kizzy]

I'm not saying women should aspire to be like her, I'm not in favour of what she does, I'm not in favour of MOST of the occupations that 90% of the Celebrity Big Brother housemates do, the vast majority of them are famous for questionable reasons, kiss and tells etc.

But calling someone a "sex worker" when they clearly aren't is just stupidity.

First of all she isn't having sex with them, secondly she isn't doing anything sexual in front of them for them to get off to, thirdly they aren't getting off to it because if they were she would end the Skype session.

You are very knowlegable on the subject tony :joker:.

[tonysoprano0316]

Lots of models, both glamour and fashion have their own websites which require a paid membership to join, usually a monthly fee.

These sites will usually contain exclusive videos and pictures and a lot of them have the facility to talk to the model via Skype, either one on one or in a group where the model broadcasts to all of the members of the site.

Chances are, some of the blokes are getting themselves off.

As a result, does this make the model a sex worker?

Sorry but if the blokes watching are getting themselves off over seeing the model on webcam or over their videos that is their prerogative, but it doesn't make the models sex workers or prostitutes.

[tonysoprano0316]

You are very knowlegable on the subject tony :joker:.

Obvious response, but these things are common knowledge.

Plus, I'm not gullible enough to pay £30 or whatever it is to talk to some girl online via a grainy webcam, there is far too much free porn online.

I'm not defending what Danica is doing, not many people are, when the programme was originally broadcast the vast majority of people frowned upon it and questioned the morality of having a wish list online and basically begging men to buy things for you.

But there is a big difference between prostitution and what she is doing.

[cassieparis]

Obvious response, but these things are common knowledge.

Plus, I'm not gullible enough to pay £30 or whatever it is to talk to some girl online via a grainy webcam, there is far too much free porn online.

I'm not defending what Danica is doing, not many people are, when the programme was originally broadcast the vast majority of people frowned upon it and questioned the morality of having a wish list online and basically begging men to buy things for you.

But there is a big difference between prostitution and what she is doing.

So what is the exchange? What are the punters getting for their gifts?
How does Danica's image feature in this trade? Dominatrices often do not touch their clients and their clients do not touch themselves.
You don't have to $$%^ to get off!
As you probably know Tony S has an office in the Bada Bing the girls are all "dancers" not sex workers too!! :wink:

[Gizmo]

I'm not saying women should aspire to be like her, I'm not in favour of what she does, I'm not in favour of MOST of the occupations that 90% of the Celebrity Big Brother housemates do, the vast majority of them are famous for questionable reasons, kiss and tells etc.

But calling someone a "sex worker" when they clearly aren't is just stupidity.

First of all she isn't having sex with them, secondly she isn't doing anything sexual in front of them for them to get off to, thirdly they aren't getting off to it because if they were she would end the Skype session.

She's using her sexuality for material gain. The same way a "sex worker" does, but more out of greed rather than need. I don't see a rigid distinction between sex and flaunting sexuality for monetary gain in the way you do. They're both a form of prostitution.

[Kizzy]

She's using her sexuality for material gain. The same way a "sex worker" does, but more out of greed rather than need. I don't see a rigid distinction between sex and flaunting sexuality for monetary gain in the way you do. They're both a form of prostitution.

I'm sorry I can't agree, if theres no physical contact then I don't see it as such. Wheres the harm.. wheres the risk?
Exploitation...Does nobody possess free will anymore?

[tonysoprano0316]

So what is the exchange? What are the punters getting for their gifts?
How does Danica's image feature in this trade? Dominatrices often do not touch their clients and their clients do not touch themselves.
You don't have to $$%^ to get off!
As you probably know Tony S has an office in the Bada Bing the girls are all "dancers" not sex workers too!! :wink:

Who says they have to "get off" at all?

Who's to say these men aren't simply just lonely, emotionally and socially detached and want a pretty face to talk to?

As I said, I don't approve of it, I think it is exploitative.

But they're not sex workers, that's like saying glamour models are sex workers.

I know two girls who work in glamour modelling, one at a low level and one girl who is featured a lot in Nuts and Maxim etc.

Both of them are in long term relationships and are as far removed from the stereotype of "wannabe WAG" as can be, if you called them sex workers I guarantee they would chew you out for having the nerve to compare them to a prostitute.


She's using her sexuality for material gain. The same way a "sex worker" does, but more out of greed rather than need. I don't see a rigid distinction between sex and flaunting sexuality for monetary gain in the way you do. They're both a form of prostitution.

Again, a glamour or fashion model can be said to be using their sexuality for material gain, they are using their bodies to make money by being photographed for magazines or advertisements, would you call them sex workers?

You're using black and white terms to describe something with a lot of grey area, you say "they're forms of prostitution", well that is like me saying "jumping really high is a form of flying".

It's not.

A prostitute or sex worker is someone who directly offers sexual favours in return for monetary gain.

A prostitute or sex worker IS NOT a fashion model, a glamour model or someone who talks to fans one on one via a webcam.

Yes, the only reason they are getting loads of men wanting to chat to them is because of their looks and sexuality, just like the only reason a glamour model is a glamour model is because of her looks and sexuality.

But unless she is directly exchanging sexual favours for money then she is not a sex worker and most certainly is not a prostitute.

[Gizmo]

I'm sorry I can't agree, if theres no physical contact then I don't see it as such. Wheres the harm.. wheres the risk?
Exploitation...Does nobody possess free will anymore?

I don't see it in black and white - actual/virtual sexual contact. It's all about using the sex continuum for material gain. And I don't think there is any harm or wrong in prostitution as long as women are safe.

[tonysoprano0316]

I'm sorry I can't agree, if theres no physical contact then I don't see it as such. Wheres the harm.. wheres the risk?
Exploitation...Does nobody possess free will anymore?

Exactly, if these men want to spend their money on pretending they are best mates with Danica then what is the issue?

Yes it's not exactly an occupation you would be particularly proud of but it's Big Brother, the last series featured a woman who was in the house because she cheated on her husband with his brother for ten years!

Take away the "rinsing" and at least Danica can say she is a model, the most Natasha Giggs can say is "erm, well I'm REALLY good at sneaking around and lying to my husbands face".

[CharlieO]

Props to Danica because if I had a body and tits like that id be doing a lot worse. Plus she's just clever. If creeps are willing to pay why not. It is helping the economy.

But I love Jasmine. When she said '**** off, no **** of FOR REAYLLL' it was the best ever moment. On par with 'Chocolate spread, [looks to cam, looks to page, looks to cam], times....... 50!'

[Vanessa]

Either way i don't like what Danica does. I find it a bit sleazy.

[tonysoprano0316]

Either way i don't like what Danica does. I find it a bit sleazy.

Fair enough, but the labels sex worker and prostitute are wrong.

But this is Celebrity Big Brother, the majority of the contestants are involved in some form of sleaze, if they weren't they probably wouldn't be on the show.

[Vanessa]

Fair enough, but the labels sex worker and prostitute are wrong.

But this is Celebrity Big Brother, the majority of the contestants are involved in some form of sleaze, if they weren't they probably wouldn't be on the show.

I know, but she exploits people for money. I think it's wrong.

[CharlieO]

Wait i got it wrong. It was

"**** off, ****.. off, **** off you prick, who the **** do you think you are, YEA FOO REAL , **** off"

:worship:

[CharlieO]

I know, but she exploits people for money. I think it's wrong.

She doesn't exploit them, she utilises a situation. If people are going to offer why say no. They have a choice, no one forces them to.

Better for the economy anyway is lonely rich men spend it on her rather than leaving it in the bank.

[Gizmo]

Exactly, if these men want to spend their money on pretending they are best mates with Danica then what is the issue?

Yes it's not exactly an occupation you would be particularly proud of but it's Big Brother, the last series featured a woman who was in the house because she cheated on her husband with his brother for ten years!

Take away the "rinsing" and at least Danica can say she is a model, the most Natasha Giggs can say is "erm, well I'm REALLY good at sneaking around and lying to my husbands face".

I agree with your point about lying to hubbie. But I'm not saying Danica's doing anything wrong, just that (a) we disagree on definition of prostitution and (b) I think a woman is letting the side down coz all she's offering is sexuality.

You said she's intelligent. I haven't seen it myself but would love to be enlightened. Are you confusing it with entrepreneurialism?

[tonysoprano0316]

I agree with your point about lying to hubbie. But I'm not saying Danica's doing anything wrong, just that (a) we disagree on definition of prostitution and (b) I think a woman is letting the side down coz all she's offering is sexuality.

You said she's intelligent. I haven't seen it myself but would love to be enlightened. Are you confusing it with entrepreneurialism?

So you must have a low opinion of models then? And especially glamour models?

I see it as a job personally, I'm not going to make a judgement based on someone based on their occupation unless it is something diabolically horrible.

Just because someone is a traffic warden doesn't mean to say they are automatically going to be a tw*t in real life.

I never said she was intelligent either, nor do I think she is an entrepreneur.

I just think she is cashing in on something that not many models have thought of previously, there are tens of thousands of models online who start off as low level Nuts magazine girls, they then drop off the radar and think that the way to make money is to knock up a website and promise "hardcore XXX one on one webcam action" to make money.

But the reality is, there is a wealth of free porn online.

Danica has went in the opposite direction, instead catering for the lonely blokes who just want to chat to a pretty girl, this probably came about because of her natural "girl next door" looks (apart from her surgically enhanced chest of course), she's found a niche and according to that programme she was in, makes a lot of money for doing very little in comparison to the other girls on the show.

[cassieparis]

Danica has went in the opposite direction, instead catering for the lonely blokes who just want to chat to a pretty girl, this probably came about because of her natural "girl next door" looks (apart from her surgically enhanced chest of course), she's found a niche and according to that programme she was in, makes a lot of money for doing very little in comparison to the other girls on the show.

We can agree to disagree?
My definition of sex worker is someone who works in the sex industry and trades their sexual selves. I don't condemn it wholly. However I wouldn't raise a child to believe that their sexuality could remain undamaged and their self esteem raised by selling sex to strangers.
Danica is selling sex albeit without interaction (which I don't buy or believe by the way) She is trading intrigue arousal and fantasy based on her scantily clad form. SEX WORK. TRADING FAVOURS.

[Beth.]

If someone buys her a £160'000 necklace, then there's certainly more to it than she's making out.

[Amy Jade]

Jasmine is spot on, I don't dislike Danica but it's not inaccurate to call her a prostitute.

[tonysoprano0316]

We'll have to agree to disagree because I'll never accept she is a sex worker let alone a prostitute.

You can believe what you want about her as far as meeting men in person goes, but the fact is, if she did meet up with anyone it would have surfaced online and especially in the tabloids.

It's not a secret that some low level glamour models go into escorting, there is an entire network of escorting websites dedicated to reviewing the encounters even!

If Danica had met up with anyone it would have been online, she is too high profile for it not to have been.

But why would she need to?

She has been on the front of Nuts and FHM several times, she used to be on those late night Sky channels dancing around (not sure if she still is) and she is a model - she's earning a fair bit doing all of that.

The wish lists are tasteless, the talking to men for money is shady, but it's not sex work and it's certainly not escorting or prostitution, at best it is titillation, but aren't Rihanna videos titillation too?

She writhes around half naked in her promotional videos then people hand over cash to buy her singles and albums and to go see her in concert.

By your logic and using your own words, that is "trading intrigue arousal and fantasy based on her scantily clad form".

Yet no one would dream of labelling Rihanna a prostitute.

And I'd argue that Jasmine (who we all know would be selling the gory details of her rich celebrity men affairs to the highest bidder if she wasn't prohibited by a court order) is as if not more tasteless than Danica when it comes to career choices.

[CharlieO]

Jasmine is spot on, I don't dislike Danica but it's not inaccurate to call her a prostitute.

it is entirely inaccurate.

pros·ti·tute/ˈprästəˌt(y)o͞ot/
Noun:
A person, typically a woman, who engages in sex for payment.

Ergo she is not a prostitute.

Not that difficult to work out

[tonysoprano0316]

Jasmine is spot on, I don't dislike Danica but it's not inaccurate to call her a prostitute.

It's totally inaccurate.

Prostitute = someone who has sex with people for money.

Danica = someone who talks to people on Skype for a fee and never meets them.

[Amy Jade]

If you believe she gets bought Audi's for just talking then you're in denial quite frankly.

[tonysoprano0316]

And where is the evidence she was bought an Audi? Or several?

Or this mystery £160,000 necklace?

Because I watched the show and the most expensive thing someone bought for her was a tumble dryer.

Or are you just hearing unfounded rumours and then using that as ammunition because you don't like her?

[smudgie]

She has a canny head on her to make such good money.:hugesmile:

Not sure how she wil explain it all away to her kids if she ever has any. But if she thinks it is ok it probably won't be an issue for her.

If she gets her face (and bits and bobs) in the paper then that seems to be enough in this day and age to be classed as a celebrity.

More of a celeb than the sourpuss that slept around with a few "known" men.:hugesmile:

[Beth.]

And where is the evidence she was bought an Audi? Or several?

Or this mystery £160,000 necklace?

Because I watched the show and the most expensive thing someone bought for her was a tumble dryer.

Or are you just hearing unfounded rumours and then using that as ammunition because you don't like her?

Right here http://www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wishlist/13BYUTQR69YHX/ref=cm_wl_sb_v?reveal=purchased&filter=all&sort=date-added&layout=standard&x=9&y=2

[CharlieO]

If you believe she gets bought Audi's for just talking then you're in denial quite frankly.

Love your pic hun xxxoxoxoxox

[Amy Jade]

Love your pic hun xxxoxoxoxox
It's not me 'hun' it's Charlotte Letitia Crosby.

Anything else?

[tonysoprano0316]

Well that's the necklace accounted for.

But what about the numerous Audi's?

The rest of the stuff on the list in hand creams and hair products.

So one utter moron splashed out.

Did you see the programme?

The majority of the people these girls "rinsed" were businessmen who wouldn't think twice about buying someone a gift for a few hundred grand, in exchange for nothing more than the ability to show their rich friends that they have a glamour model in their Blackberry.

It's all about status.

If she was banging all over the country like you seem to think she is then she would have been found out, especially now, the tabloids are digging up the past of all of the housemates, you're telling me not one client has come forward to talk of his "night of passion with Danica"?

If Sophie Anderton can't keep it under wraps, neither can a low level glamour model.

[CharlieO]

It's not me 'hun' it's Charlotte Letitia Crosby.

Anything else?

no thanks stupid hoe
Have fun in the garden.

hoe/hō/
Noun:
A long-handled gardening tool with a thin metal blade, used mainly for weeding and breaking up soil.

[tonysoprano0316]

It's not me 'hun' it's Charlotte Letitia Crosby.

Anything else?

Speaking of questionable Z-list celebrities who shouldn't be on television.

Doesn't Charlotte have sex, vomit, sh*t and p*ss on national TV in Geordie Shore?

Like every week?

Not to mention her 18 month drink driving ban for being twice over the legal limit she received earlier this year.

[Amy Jade]

Are you guys related to Danica by chance? lol

[CharlieO]

Yea she's my webcam wife, so back off!!!!

[Beth.]

Well that's the necklace accounted for.

But what about the numerous Audi's?

First page, third to bottom.

[tonysoprano0316]

No, in fact when the programme "Sex Lies And Rinsing Guys" aired I slagged her off despite the fact she was doing the least serious form of "rinsing" on the show compared to the other girls who were meeting up with blokes and simply expecting to be showered with gifts and taken away on holiday.

I still thought what she was doing was shady.

We just object to her being labelled a prostitute.

If it comes out in the press that she's some sort of high class escort and has been meeting men for sex then I'll hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

But based on the current evidence it's wrong to call her a prostitute when she clearly isn't.

Makes money in a questionable way - yes.

An escort/prostitute - no.

[chuff me dizzy]

No, in fact when the programme "Sex Lies And Rinsing Guys" aired I slagged her off despite the fact she was doing the least serious form of "rinsing" on the show compared to the other girls who were meeting up with blokes and simply expecting to be showered with gifts and taken away on holiday.

I still thought what she was doing was shady.

We just object to her being labelled a prostitute.

If it comes out in the press that she's some sort of high class escort and has been meeting men for sex then I'll hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

But based on the current evidence it's wrong to call her a prostitute when she clearly isn't.

Makes money in a questionable way - yes.

An escort/prostitute - no.

"Prostitution is the act or practice of providing sexual services to another person in return for payment."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution

Prostitution is an act of getting money,gifts for sexual services" so YES Danica prostitutes herself FACT

[reece(:]

You can't not say she's a prostitute, it's crystal clear what she does..

[chuff me dizzy]

You can't not say she's a prostitute, it's crystal clear what she does..

She making money out of sexual acts/favours ,therefore she is a prostitute

[tonysoprano0316]

"Prostitution is the act or practice of providing sexual services to another person in return for payment."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution

Prostitution is an act of getting money,gifts for sexual services" so YES Danica prostitutes herself FACT

And where are the sexual services she provides?

Talking to blokes on Skype is a sexual service?

Where is your proof of the sexual services she provides?

[tonysoprano0316]

You can't not say she's a prostitute, it's crystal clear what she does..

What is crystal clear?

If it's crystal clear she's a prostitute where are the clients she has provided these sexual favours to?

Talking to men on Skype and not even stripping off is not a sexual favour as far as I am aware.

[tonysoprano0316]

She making money out of sexual acts/favours ,therefore she is a prostitute

What sexual acts?

What sexual favours?

Please list them.

[reece(:]

What is crystal clear?

If it's crystal clear she's a prostitute where are the clients she has provided these sexual favours to?

Talking to men on Skype and not even stripping off is not a sexual favour as far as I am aware.
Sexual acts that can't be televised, you are only allowed to see the clean stuff on TV

[tonysoprano0316]

Sexual acts that can't be televised, you are only allowed to see the clean stuff on TV

So she's lying then?

You believe she's stripping off and doing all sorts in front of a webcam, fair enough, but the burden is on you to prove it otherwise it's just your word against hers.

But because you don't like her, you'll just presume she's lying to make your point.

Weak argument.

[MrWong]

And where are the sexual services she provides?

Talking to blokes on Skype is a sexual service?

Where is your proof of the sexual services she provides?

No proof. Just alot of hot air.

Seriously, if she was performing sexual acts on the webcam there would be clips of her doing that all over the internet. Even a tabloid story.

I'm wondering where all the 'we should judge them on how they are in the house' posts have gone. That's usually the line taken when stuff is alleged but not proven.

[tonysoprano0316]

No proof. Just alot of hot air.

Seriously, if she was performing sexual acts on the webcam there would be clips of her doing that all over the internet. Even a tabloid story.

I'm wondering where all the 'we should judge them on how they are in the house' posts have gone. That's usually the line taken when stuff is alleged but not proven.

Exactly, it's not hard to record Skype videos.

Which lends credence to the theory that all she's doing is talking to these blokes, and when you think about it, if she is catering for a niche market as opposed to being "just another XXX cam girl" then she's going to rake in more money.

You really think the kind of lad who watches a XXX cam girl online is going to be the type of person who can afford a £100,000 necklace or an Audi?

They will all be horny, skint students.

If she is appealing to middle aged, lonely blokes who happen to have wads of cash in the bank then she's going to rake in some of that money.

[Buck]

Personally, I don't have any objections to prostitutes or porn stars. In those cases, it's a clear deal between customer and supplier. But what Danica does is actually just exploitation. She doesn't offer any favour to the men in return for the money she gets. That's what makes it so disgusting. She lives on the overexpensive telephone charges of Babestation etc. Plus she gets the things she has on her wish list, because some naive or miserable guys buy the stuff for her. Danica needs to be quite ruthless for not feeling pangs of conscience because of all this crap...

[Livia]

Personally, I don't have any objections to prostitutes or porn stars. In those cases, it's a clear deal between customer and supplier. But what Danica does is actually just exploitation. She doesn't offer any favour to the men in return for the money she gets. That's what makes it so disgusting. She lives on the overexpensive telephone charges of Babestation etc. Plus she gets the things she has on her wish list, because some naive or miserable guys buy the stuff for her. Danica needs to be quite ruthless for not feeling pangs of conscience because of all this crap...

I can confirm that from a legal standpoint, she is probably guilty of receiving swollen goods.

[tonysoprano0316]

Personally, I don't have any objections to prostitutes or porn stars. In those cases, it's a clear deal between customer and supplier. But what Danica does is actually just exploitation. She doesn't offer any favour to the men in return for the money she gets. That's what makes it so disgusting. She lives on the overexpensive telephone charges of Babestation etc. Plus she gets the things she has on her wish list, because some naive or miserable guys buy the stuff for her. Danica needs to be quite ruthless for not feeling pangs of conscience because of all this crap...

I agree with this.

It is fine disagreeing with and even being disgusted by what she does.

But it is not prostitution, she is clearly cashing in on wealthy, presumably lonely men who need an ego-boost which they get from chatting to her on Skype and showering her with gifts.

Yes it's an illusion, yes the men are quite sad and desperate, yes she should question the way she makes a living, but it's not prostitution.

And please, can people stop saying "it's a form of prostitution", it's not.

If you are going to call Danica a prostitute then you HAVE TO level the same criticisms towards Jasmine who as I said previously, makes a career out of sleeping with rich famous men before selling the stories to the highest bidding tabloid.

It's pure double standards if you are labelling Danica a prostitute while displaying a Jasmine avatar.

[Livia]

I agree with this.

It is fine disagreeing with and even being disgusted by what she does.

But it is not prostitution, she is clearly cashing in on wealthy, presumably lonely men who need an ego-boost which they get from chatting to her on Skype and showering her with gifts.

Yes it's an illusion, yes the men are quite sad and desperate, yes she should question the way she makes a living, but it's not prostitution.

And please, can people stop saying "it's a form of prostitution", it's not.

If you are going to call Danica a prostitute then you HAVE TO level the same criticisms towards Jasmine who as I said previously, makes a career out of sleeping with rich famous men before selling the stories to the highest bidding tabloid.

It's pure double standards if you are labelling Danica a prostitute while displaying a Jasmine avatar.


I hate to be argumentative, especially with someone called Tony Soporano... but it is prostitution. She is selling sexual favours for profit. It's a simple as that.

[GiRTh]

I hate to be argumentative, especially with someone called Tony Soporano... but it is prostitution. She is selling sexual favours for profit. It's a simple as that.Agree with this. Some prostitutes receive no money only gifts - for tax purposes I believe. This is not much different from what Danica does. I agree that anyone supporting Jasmine cannot possibly call Danica a prostitute but lets not dress it up here; Danica receives gifts for giving her 'time' to people. That is a form of prostitution.

[tonysoprano0316]

I hate to be argumentative, especially with someone called Tony Soporano... but it is prostitution. She is selling sexual favours for profit. It's a simple as that.

Where is the sexual favour?

I didn't realise Skyping constituted sexual favours.

I assumed a sexual favour could only be performed in person?

And if you mean via webcam, she doesn't do anything besides talk to them.

did you even watch the programme?

The reason she makes so much money is BECAUSE she is exploiting a niche market, BECAUSE she is JUST talking to them.

She's talking to lonely blokes who obviously have issues talking to women so they shower her with gifts to obtain the illusion that a pretty girl actually gives a toss about them.

If she was just another "XXX hardcore webcam girl" she'd be making very little as there are hundreds of thousands of girls doing that, why do you think she left Elite TV?

But again, even if she WAS naked and performing sexual acts on cam, it's still not prostitution.

That's like calling strippers prostitutes.

Last time I checked, stripping was legal, prostitution was illegal.

[MTVN]

I think she's closer to being an escort than a prostitute, in that as Mr Soprano says her clients are likely to be depressed and lonely men who are more interested in the companionship and personal interaction, you wouldn't buy expensive gifts for someone purely for stripping off when there's any number of amateur webcam girls out there who offer that. We dont actually know for certain how far she goes on her skype talks but in any case she's not actually having sex for cash which is what prostitution would be

[tonysoprano0316]

Agree with this. Some prostitutes receive no money only gifts - for tax purposes I believe. This is not much different from what Danica does. I agree that anyone supporting Jasmine cannot possibly call Danica a prostitute but lets not dress it up here; Danica receives gifts for giving her 'time' to people. That is a form of prostitution.

Sorry but this is getting murkier and murkier, so if I was talking to a female friend on Skype, and bought her a gift because I was feeling generous the female friend becomes a prostitute?

The wish-list is exactly that, a wish-list, the blokes don't HAVE to buy her anything, it's not a "buy me a necklace and get five minutes of my time" deal.

The blokes are stupid enough to buy the gifts, she puts up the list on the off chance someone buys her something, yes it's tacky but it's not prostitution.

[Kizzy]

Where is the sexual favour?

I didn't realise Skyping constituted sexual favours.

I assumed a sexual favour could only be performed in person?

And if you mean via webcam, she doesn't do anything besides talk to them.

did you even watch the programme?

The reason she makes so much money is BECAUSE she is exploiting a niche market, BECAUSE she is JUST talking to them.

She's talking to lonely blokes who obviously have issues talking to women so they shower her with gifts to obtain the illusion that a pretty girl actually gives a toss about them.

If she was just another "XXX hardcore webcam girl" she'd be making very little as there are hundreds of thousands of girls doing that, why do you think she left Elite TV?

But again, even if she WAS naked and performing sexual acts on cam, it's still not prostitution.

That's like calling strippers prostitutes.

Last time I checked, stripping was legal, prostitution was illegal.

Exactly my point yesterday, if you use the analogy that anyone who provided tittilation was a prostitute you would emcompass strippers, lapdancers, pole dancers, burlesque performers ... It's just silly.

[Livia]

Where is the sexual favour?

I didn't realise Skyping constituted sexual favours.

I assumed a sexual favour could only be performed in person?

And if you mean via webcam, she doesn't do anything besides talk to them.

did you even watch the programme?

The reason she makes so much money is BECAUSE she is exploiting a niche market, BECAUSE she is JUST talking to them.

She's talking to lonely blokes who obviously have issues talking to women so they shower her with gifts to obtain the illusion that a pretty girl actually gives a toss about them.

If she was just another "XXX hardcore webcam girl" she'd be making very little as there are hundreds of thousands of girls doing that, why do you think she left Elite TV?

But again, even if she WAS naked and performing sexual acts on cam, it's still not prostitution.

That's like calling strippers prostitutes.

Last time I checked, stripping was legal, prostitution was illegal.


You seem to know a lot about her career. Anyhoo...

Danica represents what is in effect the "acceptable face of prostitution". Young girls feeding the fantasies of lonely men for money. Because she doesn't have full sex does not mean she is not prostituting herself. Because she is not a drug-addled streetwalker turning tricks for blokes in cars, she is still on the same scale as every other women who accepts payments for sex acts, and that includes showing her bits to someone while they wank. Trying to make her out like she's some innocent is a little naive.

For the record, I don't disagree with prostitution of any kind and think all the girls involved in the sex industry would be safer if it was regulated. But

[tonysoprano0316]

I think she's closer to being an escort than a prostitute, in that as Mr Soprano says her clients are likely to be depressed and lonely men who are more interested in the companionship and personal interaction, you wouldn't buy expensive gifts for someone purely for stripping off when there's any number of amateur webcam girls out there who offer that. We dont actually kniw fur certain how far she goes on her skype talks but in any case she's not actually having sex for cash which is what prostitution would be

This is true, I wouldn't call her an escort personally because she doesn't ever meet the blokes in person or accompany them anywhere, which by definition is what an escort is, however she is definitely closer to that definition, but nowhere close to that of a prostitute.

The blokes pay to speak to her and interact with a pretty girl, yes it is tacky that she makes money this way, most people think this, but it is a far cry from having sex for money.

Not only do they never meet, but there is also no sexual aspect within the conversations she has with the men.

[Livia]

Sorry but this is getting murkier and murkier, so if I was talking to a female friend on Skype, and bought her a gift because I was feeling generous the female friend becomes a prostitute?
The wish-list is exactly that, a wish-list, the blokes don't HAVE to buy her anything, it's not a "buy me a necklace and get five minutes of my time" deal.

The blokes are stupid enough to buy the gifts, she puts up the list on the off chance someone buys her something, yes it's tacky but it's not prostitution.

No. But is she agreed to show you her bits and pieces and talk dirty to you while you masterbate, but only if you sent her something - cash or gifts it's all the same - then she would be prostituting herself.

[Livia]

This is true, I wouldn't call her an escort personally because she doesn't ever meet the blokes in person or accompany them anywhere, which by definition is what an escort is, however she is definitely closer to that definition, but nowhere close to that of a prostitute.

The blokes pay to speak to her and interact with a pretty girl, yes it is tacky that she makes money this way, most people think this, but it is a far cry from having sex for money.

Not only do they never meet, but there is also no sexual aspect within the conversations she has with the men.

Bullsheeeeeet.

[tonysoprano0316]

You seem to know a lot about her career. Anyhoo...

Danica represents what is in effect the "acceptable face of prostitution". Young girls feeding the fantasies of lonely men for money. Because she doesn't have full sex does not mean she is not prostituting herself. Because she is not a drug-addled streetwalker turning tricks for blokes in cars, she is still on the same scale as every other women who accepts payments for sex acts, and that includes showing her bits to someone while they wank. Trying to make her out like she's some innocent is a little naive.

For the record, I don't disagree with prostitution of any kind and think all the girls involved in the sex industry would be safer if it was regulated. But

Didn't take long for a little jibe did it?

The statement "the acceptable form of prostitution" is stupid too.

Glamour models pose in erotic, suggestive poses wearing very little and usually topless, these shots are printed in magazines such as Nuts, Loaded, FHM and Maxim.....they are then purchased by young men who presumably are using them for some form of sexual gratification.

Are glamour models working in "the acceptable form prostitution" too?

What about Rihanna? What about any number of female pop stars who write around suggestively in their promotional videos?

Are they prostitutes too?

Titillation is NOT prostitution.

[tonysoprano0316]

Bullsheeeeeet.

Any proof for this?

Or is it just more baseless conjecture?

[GiRTh]

Sorry but this is getting murkier and murkier, so if I was talking to a female friend on Skype, and bought her a gift because I was feeling generous the female friend becomes a prostitute?

The wish-list is exactly that, a wish-list, the blokes don't HAVE to buy her anything, it's not a "buy me a necklace and get five minutes of my time" deal.

The blokes are stupid enough to buy the gifts, she puts up the list on the off chance someone buys her something, yes it's tacky but it's not prostitution.As I pointed out - lets not dress it up - obviously if you're talking to a female on Skype then she's not a prostitute but is that all that's happening here? It'd have to be one hell of a chat for me to give her a 170 grand necklace. She is aware of what she's doing and must realise what people are going to think. If the blokes are dumb enough to give her money to 'chat' then if thats fine by her then I certainly dont have any complaints. But, bottom line she's selling her 'time' for money.

[Buck]

If she was just another "XXX hardcore webcam girl" she'd be making very little as there are hundreds of thousands of girls doing that, why do you think she left Elite TV?
Just aside from the discussion: I don't get why the kind of thing Danica does (I don't know how to call it actually) is more attractive to men than actual hardcore webcam girls. In fact, she receives more money for nothing - compared to porn performers etc. In plain terms: Why waste time and money on her instead of doing/watching the "real deal"?

[Ellen]

It may be wrong to some but it is still not prostitution, she does not perform any sexual acts or receive any for money or gifts.

[tonysoprano0316]

As I pointed out - lets not dress it up - obviously if you're talking to a female on Skype then she's not a prostitute but is that all that's happening here? It'd have to be one hell of a chat for me to give her a 170 grand necklace. She is aware of what she's doing and must realise what people are going to think. If the blokes are dumb enough to give her money to 'chat' then if thats fine by her then I certainly dont have any complaints. But, bottom line she's selling her 'time' for money.

As I said, there are a lot of lonely rich blokes in the world who (clearly) wouldn't think twice about splashing out.

It's obviously a fetish, the man with no self esteem but a large bank account is given an ego-boost by chatting to a pretty girl who normally wouldn't give him the time of day.

I imagine when she is bought a gift, she then gushes and thanks the bloke on the other end of the webcam for being "such a nice, generous guy".

Yes, she may be selling time, but until she is selling sex she's not a prostitute.

If there is no evidence to suggest she is stripping for these men on webcam, let alone sleeping with them then it is unfair to label her as such, and it is the height of hypocrisy for someone like Jasmine to label ANYONE a prostitute when you take into account how she makes her living.

[Livia]

Didn't take long for a little jibe did it?

The statement "the acceptable form of prostitution" is stupid too.

Glamour models pose in erotic, suggestive poses wearing very little and usually topless, these shots are printed in magazines such as Nuts, Loaded, FHM and Maxim.....they are then purchased by young men who presumably are using them for some form of sexual gratification.

Are glamour models working in "the acceptable form prostitution" too?

What about Rihanna? What about any number of female pop stars who write around suggestively in their promotional videos?

Are they prostitutes too?

Titillation is NOT prostitution.

I wasn't really jibing you, just a little gentle piss-taking. It's what happens on here... in a friendly way. And there is nothing about my post which is "stupid".

Anyhoo, I said "the acceptable FACE of prostitution". And no, posing naked in lads mags, and writing around in music videos is not the same thing unless they say,"you can only watch this if you send me a present".

I did my dissertation on the Obscenities Act focusing particularly on women working in the sex industry. No one doing what Danica does for a living is ever going to be prosecuted, but it doesn't mean she isn't prostituting herself for gain.

[Livia]

It may be wrong to some but it is still not prostitution, she does not perform any sexual acts or receive any for money or gifts.

Yes it is and yes she does.

[the truth]

I have to fall down on the side of livia here, it is a form of prostitution, but as soprano says, what jasmine does is pretty much the same thing

[GiRTh]

As I said, there are a lot of lonely rich blokes in the world who (clearly) wouldn't think twice about splashing out.

It's obviously a fetish, the man with no self esteem but a large bank account is given an ego-boost by chatting to a pretty girl who normally wouldn't give him the time of day.

I imagine when she is bought a gift, she then gushes and thanks the bloke on the other end of the webcam for being "such a nice, generous guy".

Yes, she may be selling time, but until she is selling sex she's not a prostitute.

If there is no evidence to suggest she is stripping for these men on webcam, let alone sleeping with them then it is unfair to label her as such, and it is the height of hypocrisy for someone like Jasmine to label ANYONE a prostitute when you take into account how she makes her living.In a way, what she does is even more disturbing than prostitution cuz she's playing with emotions and making a profit from it. Just paying for sex can sound quite cold but to give someone money for their time is probably more emotional and more disturbing.

The way she acts around men leaves me cold TBH. She may as well be a hooker cuz she's so insincere in the way she act. The fake giggling etc.. She knows what she's doing and she seems pretty good at it.

[tonysoprano0316]

Just aside from the discussion: I don't get why the kind of thing Danica does (I don't know how to call it actually) is more attractive to men than actual hardcore webcam girls. In fact, she receives more money for nothing - compared to porn performers etc. In plain terms: Why waste time and money on her instead of doing/watching the "real deal"?

I have no idea.

For a few quid you can get a cam girl somewhere in the world to do all manner of things in front of her computer, add to that the infinite amount of free porn online and it boggles the mind.

I can only assume that the men are not into the hardcore girls and not particularly into the coarse stuff because of their age, and it comes down more to companionship.

Even though it is an illusion, much in the same way paying for a XXX cam girl to do something is an illusion.

She has definitely found a very profitable niche though.

I imagine it is partially down to her quite natural "girl next door looks" too, Danica doesn't look much like the stereotypical glamour girl caked in make up.

[Kizzy]

As I said, there are a lot of lonely rich blokes in the world who (clearly) wouldn't think twice about splashing out.

It's obviously a fetish, the man with no self esteem but a large bank account is given an ego-boost by chatting to a pretty girl who normally wouldn't give him the time of day.

I imagine when she is bought a gift, she then gushes and thanks the bloke on the other end of the webcam for being "such a nice, generous guy".

Yes, she may be selling time, but until she is selling sex she's not a prostitute.

If there is no evidence to suggest she is stripping for these men on webcam, let alone sleeping with them then it is unfair to label her as such, and it is the height of hypocrisy for someone like Jasmine to label ANYONE a prostitute when you take into account how she makes her living.

This is all it is, she is a beautiful model..And jasmine is furious she didn't think of this first thats her only problem with it imo :)

[Livia]

My question is, as always, why would anyone pay when there are so many willing amateurs out there?

[tonysoprano0316]

This is all it is, she is a beautiful model..And jasmine is furious she didn't think of this first thats her only problem with it imo :)

She's furious that she had to sleep with fur ball Simon Cowell in order to get her payday, while Danica made her money from the comfort of her own home.

[tonysoprano0316]

My question is, as always, why would anyone pay when there are so many willing amateurs out there?

Well that was the crux of the programme "Sex Lies And Rinsing Guys".

No one really knows why.

Clearly there are plenty of blokes out there more interested in the illusion of companionship as opposed to straight up sex.

[Livia]

Well that was the crux of the programme "Sex Lies And Rinsing Guys".

No one really knows why.

Clearly there are plenty of blokes out there more interested in the illusion of companionship as opposed to straight up sex.

And that's why she's in "Celebrity Big Brother" is it? At least Rhian is a glamour model with a bit of a following, and even Jasmine has been a fashion model. I can't see what makes Danica a "celebrity" apart from a part in one TV show that shows how she rips off men. Why wasn't Benedict on "Celebrity" Big Brother, I wonder? He's written articles in mainstream newspapers, he's been on TV... he's far more famous, surely. Bit of sexist bias going on I think...

[chuff me dizzy]

In a way, what she does is even more disturbing than prostitution cuz she's playing with emotions and making a profit from it. Just paying for sex can sound quite cold but to give someone money for their time is probably more emotional and more disturbing.

The way she acts around men leaves me cold TBH. She may as well be a hooker cuz she's so insincere in the way she act. The fake giggling etc.. She knows what she's doing and she seems pretty good at it.

The way she got Mike to get the cake off her face instead of doing it herself ,made me squirm, oh yes shes a schemer and knows what game shes playing, also suddenly now telling him shes got a boyfriend, now she wound him in ,shes playing dangerous games

[Kizzy]

Why benedict the prostitute has been brought into the equation I don't know...
He only wrote articles for the guardian following his suspension due to his, 'extra curricular' activities.
what he and rhian do has nothing to do with the OP either.

[GiRTh]

The way she got Mike to get the cake off her face instead of doing it herself ,made me squirm, oh yes shes a schemer and knows what game shes playing, also suddenly now telling him shes got a boyfriend, now she wound him in ,shes playing dangerous gamesLOL The way she acts around Sitch is exactly what I was referring to. Its all an act and when they get too close she plays the boyfriend card. She's a bit of a stereotype of the pretty flirty girl who men only like cuz they think they might get some. She's gives women a bad name IMO.

[tonysoprano0316]

And that's why she's in "Celebrity Big Brother" is it? At least Rhian is a glamour model with a bit of a following, and even Jasmine has been a fashion model. I can't see what makes Danica a "celebrity" apart from a part in one TV show that shows how she rips off men. Why wasn't Benedict on "Celebrity" Big Brother, I wonder? He's written articles in mainstream newspapers, he's been on TV... he's far more famous, surely. Bit of sexist bias going on I think...

Rhian and Danica are probably on the same level as far as glamour models go.

But they aren't in the house for being glamour models.

Rhian is in there because of the Vernon Kay thing, Danica is in there because of the controversial programme she did.

Jasmine was on "Make Me A Supermodel" and all she did was brag about her lesbian experiences, the reason she is on CBB is because of her affairs with Simon Cowell and Cristiano Ronaldo.

It's fair enough questioning the celebrity of the housemates and bleating that Danica isn't one, but most of them could be posed the question "how are you a celebrity".

When was the last time Harvey released an album?

He's in there because he tweeted something to Cheryl Cole on Twitter.

Last year Natasha Giggs was on, for NO OTHER REASON than her infidelity with Ryan Giggs, her husbands brother.

We all know these people aren't real celebrities, if the programme had a literal title it would be "Minor Celebrity Big Brother" or "Questionable Celebrity Big Brother".

[sampvt]

Personally I cant see what all the fuss is about. Every year BB throws in a couple of stocking fillers to make the numbers up. Jasmine got her place because of her bad ass attitude with Dikinson on the model program and Danica got the place due to sex lies and rinsing guys. Both are z lister scabs with low life vitues and are as bad as eachother.

Danica has the goods and has seen a way to fleece men that have no intelligence so good on her but she is still a skank. Jasmine is worse as she opens her legs then her mouth and uses her son as an excuse to make money. Both are tarts with low moral fibre and are there to make money from the program. They should be classed as POLO,S (they make a mint with their holes)

[chuff me dizzy]

LOL The way she acts around Sitch is exactly what I was referring to. Its all an act and when they get too close she plays the boyfriend card. She's a bit of a stereotype of the pretty flirty girl who men only like cuz they think they might get some. She's gives women a bad name IMO.

Yes she does, she will try to do the rounds with all the men in there,keep them dangling, thinking it will save her from nomination

[tonysoprano0316]

LOL The way she acts around Sitch is exactly what I was referring to. Its all an act and when they get too close she plays the boyfriend card. She's a bit of a stereotype of the pretty flirty girl who men only like cuz they think they might get some. She's gives women a bad name IMO.

Oh come on, you're going on as though she is the only girl to ever flirt in the Big Brother house.

EVERY series of Big Brother has featured flirting in one form or another from several different housemates.

Danica just receives an unfair amount of criticism because of her looks.

Look at Denise Welch last year, she was an absolute embarrassment from start to finish flirting with everyone no matter the age, and she had a husband and a toy boy on the outside, AND she managed to win!

[Kizzy]

Oh come on, you're going on as though she is the only girl to ever flirt in the Big Brother house.

EVERY series of Big Brother has featured flirting in one form or another from several different housemates.

Danica just receives an unfair amount of criticism because of her looks.

Look at Denise Welch last year, she was an absolute embarrassment from start to finish flirting with everyone no matter the age, and she had a husband and a toy boy on the outside, AND she managed to win!

You HAD to mention dirty den didn't you? *shudder*

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh come on, you're going on as though she is the only girl to ever flirt in the Big Brother house.

EVERY series of Big Brother has featured flirting in one form or another from several different housemates.

Danica just receives an unfair amount of criticism because of her looks.

Look at Denise Welch last year, she was an absolute embarrassment from start to finish flirting with everyone no matter the age, and she had a husband and a toy boy on the outside, AND she managed to win!

Denise is NOT a *****, she works in daytime tv,she doesnt flash her Mucky Mary for goods

[tonysoprano0316]

You HAD to mention dirty den didn't you? *shudder*

Sorry, it had to be done.

She's the heroine of the sour faced jealous trouts who hate any female that is young and good looking.

[tonysoprano0316]

Denise is NOT a *****, she works in daytime tv,she doesnt flash her Mucky Mary for goods

I think Tim Healy would disagree.

Didn't she flash her bits on Big Brother? For free?

[chuff me dizzy]

I think Tim Healy would disagree.

Didn't she flash her bits on Big Brother? For free?

Flashed her tits ? Yes, sat on a webcam exciting dirty old men and lesbians for cars? NO

[chuff me dizzy]

I think Tim Healy would disagree.

Didn't she flash her bits on Big Brother? For free?

Are you her agent?

[GiRTh]

Oh come on, you're going on as though she is the only girl to ever flirt in the Big Brother house.

EVERY series of Big Brother has featured flirting in one form or another from several different housemates.

Danica just receives an unfair amount of criticism because of her looks.

Look at Denise Welch last year, she was an absolute embarrassment from start to finish flirting with everyone no matter the age, and she had a husband and a toy boy on the outside, AND she managed to win!She doesnt receive excess criticism cuz of her looks she gets excess criticism cuz of how she makes a living. She's more than just a flirty girl next door. She does it for a living and clearly has formidable skills.

[Livia]

Rhian and Danica are probably on the same level as far as glamour models go.

But they aren't in the house for being glamour models.

Rhian is in there because of the Vernon Kay thing, Danica is in there because of the controversial programme she did.

Jasmine was on "Make Me A Supermodel" and all she did was brag about her lesbian experiences, the reason she is on CBB is because of her affairs with Simon Cowell and Cristiano Ronaldo.

It's fair enough questioning the celebrity of the housemates and bleating that Danica isn't one, but most of them could be posed the question "how are you a celebrity".

When was the last time Harvey released an album?

He's in there because he tweeted something to Cheryl Cole on Twitter.

Last year Natasha Giggs was on, for NO OTHER REASON than her infidelity with Ryan Giggs, her husbands brother.

We all know these people aren't real celebrities, if the programme had a literal title it would be "Minor Celebrity Big Brother" or "Questionable Celebrity Big Brother".

I think they're scraping the proverbial barrel with Danika in just the same way that they scraped the barrel with Natasha Giggs. Rhian is a page three girl. Jasmine is a fashion model. Whatever they've done apart from that has added to their noteriety, but they did have a career before they used a man to raise their name further.

I guess the last time Harvey released an album was about the same time Romeo from last year released an album. Fact is that he was in a band before his profile was raised by some dubious celebrity link.

Danika rinses men.

[tonysoprano0316]

Flashed her tits ? Yes, sat on a webcam exciting dirty old men and lesbians for cars? NO

Exciting how?

Pretty sure she doesn't do anything besides talk and you can't prove that she does anything than talk.

Denise Welch cheated on her husband as well I believe.

[chuff me dizzy]

Exciting how?

Pretty sure she doesn't do anything besides talk and you can't prove that she does anything than talk.

Denise Welch cheated on her husband as well I believe.

Please post PROOF of your claim "she only talks"

[Livia]

Sorry, it had to be done.

She's the heroine of the sour faced jealous trouts who hate any female that is young and good looking.

Actually, I hated Denise. I also dislike Danika. But well done on cheapening your argument by basing women's conclusions on, and assuming their opinions are, based on the looks of the woman in question. It always surprises me when this kind of accusation is levelled only at women. Not having a dick means that we don't have to think with it.

[tonysoprano0316]

She doesnt receive excess criticism cuz of her looks she gets excess criticism cuz of how she makes a living. She's more than just a flirty girl next door. She does it for a living and clearly has formidable skills.

It annoys me that Jasmine doesn't get equal criticism though.

In fact, a lot of the people criticising Danica are supporting Jasmine, some even going so far as to display a Jasmine avatar.

[GiRTh]

It annoys me that Jasmine doesn't get equal criticism though.

In fact, a lot of the people criticising Danica are supporting Jasmine, some even going so far as to display a Jasmine avatar.
Agree. It is somewhat hypocritical for Jasmine fans to criticise Danica.

[tonysoprano0316]

I think they're scraping the proverbial barrel with Danika in just the same way that they scraped the barrel with Natasha Giggs. Rhian is a page three girl. Jasmine is a fashion model. Whatever they've done apart from that has added to their noteriety, but they did have a career before they used a man to raise their name further.

I guess the last time Harvey released an album was about the same time Romeo from last year released an album. Fact is that he was in a band before his profile was raised by some dubious celebrity link.

Danika rinses men.

Danica is as much a model as Rhian.

She was in Nuts, Zoo, FHM, Maxim and Loaded long before she was in that rinsing programme.

Those aren't small publications and they are a hell of a lot more prominent than the modelling Jasmine did.

[Kizzy]

Danika is a model too...How is she different from jasmine and rhian?
She also has a website, so do lots of models...so what?

[Livia]

Danica is as much a model as Rhian.

She was in Nuts, Zoo, FHM, Maxim and Loaded long before she was in that rinsing programme.

Those aren't small publications and they are a hell of a lot more prominent than the modelling Jasmine did.

If you think that pouting and bending over in Nuts and FHM are more prominent than modelling for the fashion houses of Milan and Paris, then me telling you otherwise is going to mean nothing to you.

In any case, I have no time for Jasmine and only mentioned her former career because you held her up as an example.

[Livia]

She's an "underwear model". I buy a lot of underwear, some of it quite expensive... I buy glossy magazines that don't include celebrity crap and kiss-and-tells. I have never heard of her or seen her face before. "Underwear model" must be code for something.

[Kizzy]

Well we could champion the HM's we like till the cows come home, fact is it was an incredibly rude thing to say. If I were danica I would be seeking legal advice for those slanderous comments.

[GiRTh]

Rhian and Jasmine have both got wikipedia pages, Danica hasn't.

*See's if anyone can spot the flaw in this argument* :whistle:

[tonysoprano0316]

If you think that pouting and bending over in Nuts and FHM are more prominent than modelling for the fashion houses of Milan and Paris, then me telling you otherwise is going to mean nothing to you.

In any case, I have no time for Jasmine and only mentioned her former career because you held her up as an example.

I'd never heard of Jasmine before Big Brother.

And she wasn't a fully fledged fashion model either, she was on a reality show that offered the chance to potentially get a foot in the door of that industry.

Which she didn't win.

Rag on Nuts, Zoo and FHM all you want but the fact is they are prominent magazines featuring predominantly natural looking, curvy girls that appeal to blokes and because of this fact it winds up a lot of women.

If Jasmine wasn't so skinny you can guarantee she would have taken up the chance to appear in all of those lads mags if given the opportunity.

In fact, post Big Brother you can guarantee she is featured in at least one of them.

[tonysoprano0316]

She's an "underwear model". I buy a lot of underwear, some of it quite expensive... I buy glossy magazines that don't include celebrity crap and kiss-and-tells. I have never heard of her or seen her face before. "Underwear model" must be code for something.

No, she's a glamour model.

She's a regular in lads mags, she's not one of the more prominent ones but she has been on the cover several times.

If you don't read lads mags then I don't expect you to know her.

I don't read fashion magazines or Heat so I haven't got a clue who Jasmine is.

[Livia]

I'd never heard of Jasmine before Big Brother.

And she wasn't a fully fledged fashion model either, she was on a reality show that offered the chance to potentially get a foot in the door of that industry.

Which she didn't win.

Rag on Nuts, Zoo and FHM all you want but the fact is they are prominent magazines featuring predominantly natural looking, curvy girls that appeal to blokes and because of this fact it winds up a lot of women.

If Jasmine wasn't so skinny you can guarantee she would have taken up the chance to appear in all of those lads mags if given the opportunity.

In fact, post Big Brother you can guarantee she is featured in at least one of them.

I wouldn't dream of "raggin on" the lads mags. They serve a purpose and if you want to champion them, then good for you. I'm sure there are sufficient men who base their view of women completely on whether they have big tits and can do the crab to keep those publications in the black.

Incidentally, most women have no problem with beautiful women, only when that beauty is all they have to offer.

[chuff me dizzy]

No, she's a glamour model.

She's a regular in lads mags, she's not one of the more prominent ones but she has been on the cover several times.

If you don't read lads mags then I don't expect you to know her.

I don't read fashion magazines or Heat so I haven't got a clue who Jasmine is.

You ARE her agent !!!

[Livia]

No, she's a glamour model.

She's a regular in lads mags, she's not one of the more prominent ones but she has been on the cover several times.

If you don't read lads mags then I don't expect you to know her.

I don't read fashion magazines or Heat so I haven't got a clue who Jasmine is.

But she was described by Big Brother as an "underwear model", in fact that's how she's described herself. I thought underwear models modelled... you know... underwear. Surely she wouldn't say something that wasn't true to mask what she really does?!

[tonysoprano0316]

I wouldn't dream of "raggin on" the lads mags. They serve a purpose and if you want to champion them, then good for you. I'm sure there are sufficient men who base their view of women completely on whether they have big tits and can do the crab to keep those publications in the black.

Incidentally, most women have no problem with beautiful women, only when that beauty is all they have to offer.

Another attempted low blow and again totally misguided.

No, the reason I "champion" lads mags isn't because I expect women to have big tits and be bending over tables.

As I said on a previous post, I know two girls in the glamour modelling industry, one low level and one prominent.

Both have long term relationships and would be insulted by anyone referring to them as escorts or prostitutes, they despise the "oh you're just a wannabe WAG" stereotype, neither of them aspire to "bag a footballer".

Incidentally both of these girls do not agree with how Danica makes a living, but neither thinks she is a prostitute, just embarrassing for having a wish list which they think is tantamount to begging.

My point is totally the opposite of your claim, I don't care how a woman looks nor do I "base my opinion on them whether they have big tits or can do the crab", and neither do I assume that because a girl is a glamour model she also has loose morals, is a wannabe WAG or an air head.

[Kizzy]

I thought glamour models in FHM and nuts wore underwear?...That would make her an underwear model right?...

[tonysoprano0316]

But she was described by Big Brother as an "underwear model", in fact that's how she's described herself. I thought underwear models modelled... you know... underwear. Surely she wouldn't say something that wasn't true to mask what she really does?!

What's the difference?

Glamour, underwear, generally glamour models pose in their underwear.

She's been in countless lads mags.

And why all the veiled barbs about what she "really does" as though glamour models have some sort of predisposition towards being a slag or veering over into escorting and other shady activities in order to make money?

[kistar]

What's the difference?

Glamour, underwear, generally glamour models pose in their underwear.

She's been in countless lads mags.

And why all the veiled barbs about what she "really does" as though glamour models have some sort of predisposition towards being a slag or veering over into escorting and other shady activities in order to make money?

She is a babe station babe , she stands flashes her boobs and entices men to call her to talk about sex.

[tonysoprano0316]

She is a babe station babe , she stands flashes her boobs and entices men to call her to talk about sex.

And?

Still not prostitution.

And as far as I'm aware she isn't on those channels anymore, presumably since she figured out she could make more money by doing less, instead of stripping for horny lads at 4am she figured she could make a whole lot more simply talking to older rich blokes over Skype.

Nuts magazine girls flash their boobs in the magazine and in the accompanying videos on the website.

Presumably when lads watch the videos they are thinking about sex and not climate change.

So a woman getting a man to think about sex is prostitution now as well?

Where does it end?

[MTVN]

I don't really see the point in criticising her for not being famous enough for you, CBB is only trashy entertainment telly and has always had a pretty wide definition of "celebrity", does it really matter that much? :shrug:

[tonysoprano0316]

I don't really see the point in criticising her for not being famous enough for you, CBB is only trashy entertainment telly and has always had a pretty wide definition of "celebrity", does it really matter that much? :shrug:

Exactly, if it was ten ex-Eastenders in the house with the exact same level of fame can you imagine how boring it would be?

It'd be three straight weeks of ego massages.

[robb]

What else is she? she flashes her minge for a pair of shoes, she IS a *****

er, yes sort of...but this is pot calling the kettle black. And all jasmine has done is give the 'sympathy vote' straight to dani-CAN :devil:

[RodHull]

And she wasn't a fully fledged fashion model either, she was on a reality show that offered the chance to potentially get a foot in the door of that industry.

Quite true, not only did she not win, but she was clearly on it just for fame, not to actually become a model. I watched that series and she was the first person I remember seeing on a UK model who was clearly their just to make a name for herself, indeed just check her afore mentioned wiki page to see some choice facts about this woman of high morals... (what a joke)

Lennard first shot to fame in 2005 as a finalist in the reality TV talent search Make Me a Supermodel. She angered judge Rachel Hunter by describing her as: "spotty, finished and fat";[1] and also said: "I suggest she throws out the truckload of make-up she uses and hires a personal trainer." and talked about her lesbian affairs while filming the show

Lovely girl not a fame ***** at all

Since then she has carved a celebrity career out of her appearance, becoming a red-carpet regular. As such, she was known for her publicised rifts with fellow models such as Sophie Anderton, her relationships with other celebritie

Yes what a glittering model career and fine example of a human being to be judging other peoples career choices...

The woman is vile...

[RodHull]

What else is she? she flashes her minge for a pair of shoes, she IS a *****

SO what does that make the millions of girls who happily sleep with guys they have no interest in a relationship with who shower them gifts?? Are they all *****S as well??

Also the online stuff she does involves no sexual content at all, weird I know but true I watched the show she was on about it. She has done late night adult chat TV but even that is a long way from real porn, and even real porn is VERY different to prostitution.

Lets please be factual and honest, if you dont like her fine but if you judge her with that harsh criteria you are pretty much calling 50% of young women *****s including Jasmine who Im sure has done much worse.

[Angus]

The double standards mooted by some FMs on this thread are laughably hypocritical:bored: It's sometimes hard to believe this is the 21st century, some on here are stuck in a 1950s time warp.

[MrWong]

You ARE her agent !!!

I couldn't give a chuff if he is.

He's atleast providing some facts amongst all the ridiculous prostitute accusations.