View Full Version : julian-cold, uncommunicative, sly
the truth
19-08-2012, 03:16 PM
yeah hes got a sharp tongue and can put people down ,so what?
beyond the surface what else is there to mr cleary?
his put downs seem obvious pre-prepared and over-used
he seems cold, sly, totally uncommunicative and hard work to be around
I know many people like that, they never ever ever open up, they just do and say the obvious thing to stay popular with the people they think can help them and their careers
His nomination was sooooo predictable as he played up to the women and to what he thinks the audience wants to see, i.e. him picking on the supposedly stupid yank
I think situation will be far more popular than cleary realises and cleary will no doubt fake some warmth to him when the situation survives a few weeks...pathetic
people will call the others stupid and julian clever because he can insult the so easily, insulting people, less intelligent people just for fun, is not something to be proud of
i think its a defence mechanism tbh and it can come across as negative and nasty, he just seems to have not developed his personality further and doesnt have the guts to open up and be real and natural like some others
Gizmo
19-08-2012, 04:19 PM
If all he does is put downs it'll eventually get a bit irritating but he's probably thinking that's what the public want and what he needs to do to stay in.
It would be nice to see another side to him other than piss taking but I wouldn't say he's sly and uncommunicative. I think he's just being cautious and sussing out who he can trust to open up to.
You could say that about any of the housemates though? and many people in general. Peel away the layers and what's left.
I love Julian, a very witty man. Housemates ........ well it's all just down to personal preference really and which housemates we find entertaining, or irritable, or boring, etc;
If all he does is put downs it'll eventually get a bit irritating but he's probably thinking that's what the public want and what he needs to do to stay in.
It would be nice to see another side to him other than piss taking but I wouldn't say he's sly and uncommunicative. I think he's just being cautious and sussing out who he can trust to open up to.
Nope, I can't agree on that. Julian is very witty and entertaining, and will gel with only certain people because in my opinion he is very good at reading others straight off, and knows who he will get on best with, and no way will he play the BB game cautiously, that's just not Julian. What you see is what you get.
Vanessa
19-08-2012, 06:53 PM
I really like Julian. He's so funny! :tongue:
the truth
19-08-2012, 07:42 PM
Nope, I can't agree on that. Julian is very witty and entertaining, and will gel with only certain people because in my opinion he is very good at reading others straight off, and knows who he will get on best with, and no way will he play the BB game cautiously, that's just not Julian. What you see is what you get.
prejudging people and making false assumptions usually based on bias and self interest....Ill bet you any money he continues exactly this way throughout and never reveals a warmer deeper side...itll just be cold cutting snide comments in favour of the people he thinks are popular....hes not nice enough to be truly funny because he doesnt lay himself open and he doesnt sisplay deeper characteristics like warmth sincerity etc
prejudging people and making false assumptions usually based on bias and self interest....Ill bet you any money he continues exactly this way throughout and never reveals a warmer deeper side...itll just be cold cutting snide comments in favour of the people he thinks are popular....hes not nice enough to be truly funny because he doesnt lay himself open and he doesnt sisplay deeper characteristics like warmth sincerity etc
Kind of like referring to a gay man as sly and uncommunicative despite never having met him and only seeing a few minutes of him a day?
chuff me dizzy
19-08-2012, 10:19 PM
Hes getting very little camera time, its all about the bimbos
joeysteele
19-08-2012, 10:44 PM
Nope, I can't agree on that. Julian is very witty and entertaining, and will gel with only certain people because in my opinion he is very good at reading others straight off, and knows who he will get on best with, and no way will he play the BB game cautiously, that's just not Julian. What you see is what you get.
I agree with you, I like Julian,I also think he's doing okay in the house too.
the truth
19-08-2012, 11:43 PM
Kind of like referring to a gay man as sly and uncommunicative despite never having met him and only seeing a few minutes of him a day?
they go on there to be judged, I judge the show on who I want to keep in and kick out, this is my judgement so far. admittedly its purely a big brother judgement,the whole show forces people to make quick judgements. I dont know the man of course, but Ive seen him on tv for years and now up close and personal in bb. but based on what Ive seen this is my impression so far, Id love to be proved wrong
the truth
22-08-2012, 11:59 PM
I think clearys pitiful nonimations tonight underline my original opinion of him....cold distant manipulative sly shallow anti american self serving and pretty nasty
his nom of the prince was hes too dull? is that it?
his nom of the situation was the bog standard arrogant english anti american, he doesnt get my humour, hes stupid, hes sexist and his body disgusts me?
wow nice.
clearys descriptions and analysis of people are all superficial and shallow, martin chews with his mouth open, cheryl talks too much, prince is too nice etc too american more like
cleary insulted the situation the second he walked through the doors. the situation , mike, has done nothing to him whatsoever, hes laughed at his mean jokes, hes chatted, shared his experiences, waste of time, cleary is the most narrow minded hm ever, he asks not to be prejudged yet he does it more than anyone
hes playing to the anti american british audience , who I hope will not fall for this one dimensional man....unless he opens up and actually gets to know housemates genuinely and actually shows us something other than shallow spiteful sarcas masquerading as supposed humour, then he deserves to be gone
Saigon1
23-08-2012, 12:14 AM
I think clearys pitiful nonimations tonight underline my original opinion of him....cold distant manipulative sly shallow anti american self serving and pretty nasty
his nom of the prince was hes too dull? is that it?
his nom of the situation was the bog standard arrogant english anti american, he doesnt get my humour, hes stupid, hes sexist and his body disgusts me?
wow nice.
clearys descriptions and analysis of people are all superficial and shallow, martin chews with his mouth open, cheryl talks too much, prince is too nice etc too american more like
cleary insulted the situation the second he walked through the doors. the situation , mike, has done nothing to him whatsoever, hes laughed at his mean jokes, hes chatted, shared his experiences, waste of time, cleary is the most narrow minded hm ever, he asks not to be prejudged yet he does it more than anyone
hes playing to the anti american british audience , who I hope will not fall for this one dimensional man....unless he opens up and actually gets to know housemates genuinely and actually shows us something other than shallow spiteful sarcas masquerading as supposed humour, then he deserves to be gone
Couldn't have put it better myself. Agree 100%. Tonight just proved again what I previously suspected.
dyfed
23-08-2012, 12:37 AM
I think Julian is jealous of the stich and tries to put him down,whatever millions stich has got,he is laughing all the way to the bank,I sometimes think actors have a hard time excepting reality stars,they feel they have taken work away from them and don't look on them as having a craft,I thought Julian and Julie were very rude about the Americans,their reasons were pathetic to say the least,BB should not have let them get away with nonsense like because he lived in a hotel,the next clip we see the Prince washing up dishes and moving used glasses from the bed room,Julian feels he doesn't behave like a Prince,I wonder what he will say when he hears about Harry showing the crown jewels in Las Vegas....I feel Julian is very full of his own self importance.. ...
the truth
23-08-2012, 12:40 AM
I think Julian is jealous of the stich and tries to put him down,whatever millions stich has got,he is laughing all the way to the bank,I sometimes think actors have a hard time excepting reality stars,they feel they have taken work away from them and don't look on them as having a craft,I thought Julian and Julie were very rude about the Americans,their reasons were pathetic to say the least,BB should not have let them get away with nonsense like because he lived in a hotel,the next clip we see the Prince washing up dishes and moving used glasses from the bed room,Julian feels he doesn't behave like a Prince,I wonder what he will say when he hears about Harry showing the crown jewels in Las Vegas....I feel Julian is very full of his own self importance.. ...
I agree 100% having watched the nominations live it gives you a far far better impression of who is shallow and who is not
julie and julians noinations were embarassing, especially when nominating the americans.....bb in fairness demanding proper explanations which neither could provide....reducing the unfunny cleary to say he hated mikes body and his stomach looked disgusting etc what a horrible man cleary is proving to be
compare julie and colleen and julians nominations, all pretty patheitc with martin kemp
his nominations wre legitiate, well thought out and fair
big brother didnt need to ask him twice, his explanation for colleen was very good, she kept slagging off samantha for her article and martin tried to explain the the role of these writers is to start a debate and in effect play devils advocate. colleen was too dumb and ignorant to see that and kept banging on for days how much she hates samanatha because of 1 article
martin kemp is a class act
I've not seen tonights show yet, but I have to say that so far I'm disappointed with Julian. I thought he'd be witty, sarcastic, fun and cheeky; instead I have found him to be dull, solemn and disinterested in everybody around him. He dies not look like he's enjoying himself whatsoever!
optimisticcynic
23-08-2012, 01:04 AM
Already fed up with Julian. He may be witty but he's nasty, condescending and shows a lack of class when he does the "let's laugh at the American cos we're British" crap so as to get the public on-side. His double-entendres are tired. We all get it, he's gay. So are a lot of other people. and thus his niche is no longer a lucrative one and he is bitter as sin. "The White Swallow" gag may have been edgy in the 80s when people were ignorant/prejudiced/sheltered enough to be shocked, but it fell flat on its face because he has not moved with the times and is left watching bitterly from the sidelines as Reality TV makes his career a distant memory, hence the bitterness towards an otherwise harmless Mike. A lot of people love him still, which is fair enough, but there's a difference between being ripped apart verbally by a comedian at a show you've intentionally paid to watch, and repeatedly being insulted by a bitter man in crap make-up when you're trying to have your Frosties in the morning.
Yeah, and his double-entendres suck!
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:08 AM
Already fed up with Julian. He may be witty but he's nasty, condescending and shows a lack of class when he does the "let's laugh at the American cos we're British" crap so as to get the public on-side. His double-entendres are tired. We all get it, he's gay. So are a lot of other people. and thus his niche is no longer a lucrative one and he is bitter as sin. "The White Swallow" gag may have been edgy in the 80s when people were ignorant/prejudiced/sheltered enough to be shocked, but it fell flat on its face because he has not moved with the times and is left watching bitterly from the sidelines as Reality TV makes his career a distant memory, hence the bitterness towards an otherwise harmless Mike. A lot of people love him still, which is fair enough, but there's a difference between being ripped apart verbally by a comedian at a show you've intentionally paid to watch, and repeatedly being insulted by a bitter man in crap make-up when you're trying to have your Frosties in the morning.
what a fantastic:dance: post Honest accurate funny and insightful, bravo!:wavey:
dyfed
23-08-2012, 01:10 AM
Can you imagine Julian's face if he goes before the Americans...
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:11 AM
Yeah, and his double-entendres suck!
youd have thought the only thing his one trick pony double entendre act would be effective at, was in carry on movies, but his carry on movie was the worst one ever and killed the franchise
he wanted to be kenneth williams or frankie howard, the crucial difference was, they were funny
He did a carry on movie? I did not know that.
Ive never found them funny either tbh :nono:
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:14 AM
Can you imagine Julian's face if he goes before the Americans...
oh heavenly bliss
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:18 AM
He did a carry on movie? I did not know that.
Ive never found them funny either tbh :nono:
carry on columbus...it got a 2.5 rating across all of the internet movie database.....very generous imho
some of the old ones like carry on camping were pretty funny imho...just harmless bawdy comedy. but clary has too much spite in him to be funny, the great funny men are outspoken but are not petty spiteful, laurel and hardy, harolyd lloyd, jerry lewis, richard pryor, billy connolly, bill hicks, chris rock , etc
optimisticcynic
23-08-2012, 01:18 AM
Too kind, Truth!
vortex
23-08-2012, 03:00 AM
I don't like him at all, he seems so against Mike and ironically Mike is nice to him, he's just really unpleasant and doesn't add anything to the house.
lostalex
23-08-2012, 03:32 AM
I agree. He just comes across as a miserable old man.
alex_front2
23-08-2012, 11:02 AM
Can you imagine Julian's face if he goes before the Americans...
:joker:
He would be p*ssed and shocked! Julian really expects to win and snears at the Americans so it would kill him to go over them. Make it happen folks.
Tregard
23-08-2012, 11:08 AM
You do realise he is there for the money right? Like Madsen last year, who had similar claims made about his personality, he simple doesn't care about the show. That doesn't make him sly or cold, it simply means he is keeping his work persona on a bit more than the others.
CBB is different from BB in that I don't want the most "real" person to win, I want the most entertaining people to win. Entertaining from my perspective at least. It's the reason I wanted Jedward to win, it's the reason I wanted Madsen to win, and it is now the reason I want Julian to win.
rayheartbliss
23-08-2012, 11:09 AM
his nomination is rubbish
i don't actually think he is sly,
hes just a bit old and doesnt get the situation at all
mike does seem nice to him, probably just being considerate to the older HMs
alex_front2
23-08-2012, 11:11 AM
Mike for all his faults is very courteous of Julian (when they did the 'Guess who' task together he was nice to him). Julian slagged him off the next day.
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:03 PM
You do realise he is there for the money right? Like Madsen last year, who had similar claims made about his personality, he simple doesn't care about the show. That doesn't make him sly or cold, it simply means he is keeping his work persona on a bit more than the others.
CBB is different from BB in that I don't want the most "real" person to win, I want the most entertaining people to win. Entertaining from my perspective at least. It's the reason I wanted Jedward to win, it's the reason I wanted Madsen to win, and it is now the reason I want Julian to win.
I think he is sly cold calculating shallow judgemental narrow minded mean spirited impatient and plain nasty. pls dont compare him to a hollywood heavyweight, madsen is a legendary hollywood actor, a very interesting multi faceted character with great talent , great raconteur, a genuine person and tremendous dry wit too.
alex_front2
23-08-2012, 01:05 PM
Judging by some of the nominations Julian's received some HM agree with you the truth.
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 01:09 PM
Can we please stop with this "anti American" crap :sleep:
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:11 PM
Can we please stop with this "anti American" crap :sleep:
yes lets hope julian does drop it,
but like so many other shaollow predictable british so called celebrities, they often fall for the american bashing as a way to unite together and try and slime their way to the final. its not entertaining its nasty shallow and predictable.
Razor
23-08-2012, 01:12 PM
I like Julian but he does seem to come across as though he is above it all. Maybe he is. :conf:
Gillian-73
23-08-2012, 01:19 PM
:joker:
He would be p*ssed and shocked! Julian really expects to win and snears at the Americans so it would kill him to go over them. Make it happen folks.
I don't think he expects to win at all
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:32 PM
I don't think he expects to win at all
I think he does. he expects us brits to be lapping it up as he points at the stupid yank and mocks his body and his brain. wow what an achievement that is julian clary? its about as impressive as usain bolt challenging big daddy to a 100 meter race. pathetic
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 01:35 PM
yes lets hope julian does drop it,
but like so many other shaollow predictable british so called celebrities, they often fall for the american bashing as a way to unite together and try and slime their way to the final. its not entertaining its nasty shallow and predictable.
I think you need to get that chip off your shoulder, wow...
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:37 PM
I think you need to get that chip off your shoulder, wow...
why would I have a chip on my shoulder about anti americanism , when Im british? nice try to pigeon hole me, but it failed. I like to see fair play, clearly that doesnt bother you. I back the underdog when hes getting picked on or bullied. nothing to do with chips on shoulders, or being a one eyed american or any such premeditiated nonsense you wish to imagine. just a fight to see fairness balance and TRUTH
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 01:39 PM
why would I have a chip on my shoulder about anti americanism , when Im british? nice try to pigeon hole me, but it failed. I like to see fair play, clearly that doesnt bother you. I back the underdog when hes getting picked on or bullied. nothing to do with chips on shoulders, or being a one eyed american or any such premeditiated nonsense you wish to imagine. just a fight to see fairness balance and TRUTH
Oh dear :joker:
Tregard
23-08-2012, 01:40 PM
I think he does. he expects us brits to be lapping it up as he points at the stupid yank and mocks his body and his brain. wow what an achievement that is julian clary? its about as impressive as usain bolt challenging big daddy to a 100 meter race. pathetic
So you admit that Julian is smarter than Michael, yet him pointing that out in any facet is sly? It's not even as if he has mocked The Situation in any way he hasn't done so with the other housemates, his comedic style. Claiming he's Anti-American is ridiculous, and to say he acts as if he is going to win is grossly over-thinking things.
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:41 PM
So you admit that Julian is smarter than Michael, yet him pointing that out in any facet is sly? It's not even as if he has mocked The Situation in any way he hasn't done so with the other housemates, his comedic style. Claiming he's Anti-American is ridiculous, and to say he acts as if he is going to win is grossly over-thinking things.
I dont think hes smarter, he just finds it easier to be insulting cold and rude. that doesn ttake talent it takes meanness of spirit
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:42 PM
Oh dear :joker:
clearly the truth offends you:dance: oh dear
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 01:44 PM
clearly the truth offends you:dance: oh dear
No, just find your huge chip on your shoulder about an entertainment/reality show to be hilarious :joker:
Go have a cup of tea love, there are far more important things in life to get your knickers in a twist about...
dyfed
23-08-2012, 01:44 PM
He is being Anti-American,before you jump on me,I am 100% British.
lostalex
23-08-2012, 01:47 PM
I don't think he's necessarily being anti-American, I DO think he is picking on easy targets though.
I"m very sensitive to anti-Americanism as most people arou d here know, and i don't think he's anti-American, i think he's offended that the Americans don't know who he is though, because ofcourse he's never had a career in America, and i think he is a bit bitter about that.
I think that all of the other (british) housemates would know who he is, and i think he was a bit offended that the Americans don't have the same reverence for him that he thinks he deserves.
Gillian-73
23-08-2012, 01:48 PM
I think he does. he expects us brits to be lapping it up as he points at the stupid yank and mocks his body and his brain. wow what an achievement that is julian clary? its about as impressive as usain bolt challenging big daddy to a 100 meter race. pathetic
None of what he says or does suggests to me he expects to win.
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:49 PM
No, just find your huge chip on your shoulder about an entertainment/reality show to be hilarious :joker:
Go have a cup of tea love, there are far more important things in life to get your knickers in a twist about...
i think you need one yourself lovely maybe laced with whiskey
if you werent so narrow minded youd notice I cover a vast broad range of topics...from politics to elections to racism to war to sport to paralympics to sex to music and so on ...I actually give sincere thought out opinions unlike yourself....I dont consider big brother very important just like to stick up against bullies and also highlight bad behaviour for the millions watching who may be negatively influenced by it. clearly youre more trivial and couldnt care less about any of these issues.
Ellen
23-08-2012, 01:49 PM
Just because someone doesnt think much of 1 or 2 Americans does not mean they are anti american. Throwing in the Anti American insult just because people dont agree with you is lame.
Could it be possible that Julian just isnt keen on The Situation & wonders why at the age of 30 he has a nicknames "The Situation"? Sorry but any comedian would have a pop at that hence the remark about the occasional table.
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 01:53 PM
Cor strike a light guvnor!
lets all have a nice cup of tea and polish our bowler hats...lol
Us brits don't really like anyone too self assured, and sitch is deffo that..
confidentand assertive come under the 'up your own arse umberella' ..ella ella
dyfed
23-08-2012, 01:54 PM
I don't get it"The occasional table" is that supposed to be funny....
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 01:56 PM
i think you need one yourself lovely maybe laced with whiskey
if you werent so narrow minded youd notice I cover a vast broad range of topics...from politics to elections to racism to war to sport to paralympics to sex to music and so on ...I actually give sincere thought out opinions unlike yourself....I dont consider big brother very important just like to stick up against bullies and also highlight bad behaviour for the millions watching who may be negatively influenced by it. clearly youre more trivial and couldnt care less about any of these issues.
No, I'm fine thanks, but I may have a coffee to stop me nodding off... :joker:
I'm not narrow minded at all, but it does seem you have this big chip on your shoulder about Julian, could there be other reasons for this possibly?? Hmmm...
So Julian is bullying The Situation now is he?? Wow... Perhaps you need to stop thinking & analysing the show quite so hard then you wont be coming up with issues that don't exist :joker:
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:56 PM
I don't think he's necessarily being anti-American, I DO think he is picking on easy targets though.
I"m very sensitive to anti-Americanism as most people arou d here know, and i don't think he's anti-American, i think he's offended that the Americans don't know who he is though, because ofcourse he's never had a career in America, and i think he is a bit bitter about that.
I think that all of the other (british) housemates would know who he is, and i think he was a bit offended that the Americans don't have the same reverence for him that he thinks he deserves.
well Ive watched british reality tv for a decade and the anti american pattern has continued throughout, especially with the mediocre celebrities like clary. i recall vic reeves being very disappojnting in the jungle, a famous british comic but he again didnt give the yanks a chance, I really dont know why the english have got such a chip on their shoulder about the americans. its sad. I recall the great sir anthony hopkins point this out one way. he said the english hated the fact he was going to hollywood to work and to live. he hated the stiffness and narrow mindedness of the west end and loved the open mindedness and opportunity he found in american. so much so he became mayor of a town, and took dual american/welsh citizenship
this anti american rhetoric has gone on on every english comedy show, quiz show, chat show for decades, now reality tv shows too
the english often make the error of mistaking sincerity for stupidity
they think all americans have no ironic humour, they ignore the legends like larry david, garry shandling, wood allen, oliver hardy, harold lloyd, buster keaton, the marx brothers, robin williams, joan rivers, emo, richard pryor, bill hicks etc etc etc they see to think ironic humour only exists in england. talk about xenophobic little englanders. its not that way in scotland or wales or ireland. yet the english consider themselves brilliant multi culturalists. they take jokes way too far
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 01:57 PM
I don't get it"The occasional table" is that supposed to be funny....
Yes & it is :joker:
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:57 PM
No, I'm fine thanks, but I may have a coffee to stop me nodding off... :joker:
I'm not narrow minded at all, but it does seem you have this big chip on your shoulder about Julian, could there be other reasons for this possibly?? Hmmm...
So Julian is bullying The Situation now is he?? Wow... Perhaps you need to stop thinking & analysing the show quite so hard then you wont be coming up with issues that don't exist :joker:
it exists youre just too blind to see it, try not to wear your eyepatch over your other eye and take that match out of the birds mouth:wavey::joker:
the truth
23-08-2012, 01:58 PM
Yes & it is :joker:
no its not and you know it:xyxwave:
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 01:58 PM
well Ive watched british reality tv for a decade and the anti american pattern has continued throughout, especially with the mediocre celebrities like clary. i recall vic reeves being very disappojnting in the jungle, a famous british comic but he again didnt give the yanks a chance, I really dont know why the english have got such a chip on their shoulder about the americans. its sad. I recall the great sir anthony hopkins point this out one way. he said the english hated the fact he was going to hollywood to work and to live. he hated the stiffness and narrow mindedness of the west end and loved the open mindedness and opportunity he found in american. so much so he became mayor of a town, and took dual american/welsh citizenship
this anti american rhetoric has gone on on every english comedy show, quiz show, chat show for decades, now reality tv shows too
the english often make the error of mistaking sincerity for stupidity
they think all americans have no ironic humour, they ignore the legends like larry david, garry shandling, wood allen, oliver hardy, harold lloyd, buster keaton, the marx brothers, robin williams, joan rivers, emo, richard pryor, bill hicks etc etc etc they see to think ironic humour only exists in england. talk about xenophobic little englanders. its not that way in scotland or wales or ireland. yet the english consider themselves brilliant multi culturalists. they take jokes way too far
Wow, you are clearly anti-English :joker:
the truth
23-08-2012, 02:00 PM
Wow, you are clearly anti-English :joker:
despite me being english?
no you support a bully who is anti american
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 02:00 PM
it exists youre just too blind to see it, try not to wear your eyepatch over your one eye and take that match out of the birds mouth:wavey::joker:
It exists only in your head :joker:
no its not and you know it:xyxwave:
It is, get a sense of humour :xyxwave:
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 02:02 PM
despite me being english?
no you support a bully who is anti american
Yes you quite clearly are being anti English with that ridiculous rant :joker:
And no, I support Julian, who is a hilarious housemate :xyxwave:
the truth
23-08-2012, 02:03 PM
Yes you quite clearly are being anti English with that ridiculous rant :joker:
And no, I support Julian, who is a hilarious housemate :xyxwave:
no just speaking against bulllying the foreigner. I back the underdog you clearly like to see him picked on:nono:
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 02:06 PM
no just speaking against bulllying the foreigner. I back the underdog you clearly like to see him picked on:nono:
He isn't being bullied FFS :nono:
Mike knows full well he's seen as "the dumb yank" That is what he is "famous" for! :joker:
the truth
23-08-2012, 02:08 PM
He isn't being bullied FFS :nono:
Mike knows full well he's seen as "the dumb yank" That is what he is "famous" for! :joker:
language timothy always a sure sign a an knows hes in the wrong:nono:
so julian is aiming his poision at the most obvious predictable target, wow how original how impressive zzzzzzzzzzz:sleep:
dyfed
23-08-2012, 02:09 PM
Wow, you are clearly anti-English :joker:
Maybe he has touched a raw nerve...sometimes the truth hurts...
the truth
23-08-2012, 02:11 PM
Maybe he has touched a raw nerve...sometimes the truth hurts...
aye probably
no according to gllah, the english picking on every american who ever walks onto reality tv over decades and on every chat and quiz show for decades is NOT anti american....yet 1 poster coming on here and criticizing the english IS anti english
Im english and Im ashamed of our anti americanism and double standards
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 02:12 PM
well Ive watched british reality tv for a decade and the anti american pattern has continued throughout, especially with the mediocre celebrities like clary. i recall vic reeves being very disappojnting in the jungle, a famous british comic but he again didnt give the yanks a chance, I really dont know why the english have got such a chip on their shoulder about the americans. its sad. I recall the great sir anthony hopkins point this out one way. he said the english hated the fact he was going to hollywood to work and to live. he hated the stiffness and narrow mindedness of the west end and loved the open mindedness and opportunity he found in american. so much so he became mayor of a town, and took dual american/welsh citizenship
this anti american rhetoric has gone on on every english comedy show, quiz show, chat show for decades, now reality tv shows too
the english often make the error of mistaking sincerity for stupidity
they think all americans have no ironic humour, they ignore the legends like larry david, garry shandling, wood allen, oliver hardy, harold lloyd, buster keaton, the marx brothers, robin williams, joan rivers, emo, richard pryor, bill hicks etc etc etc they see to think ironic humour only exists in england. talk about xenophobic little englanders. its not that way in scotland or wales or ireland. yet the english consider themselves brilliant multi culturalists. they take jokes way too far
Ask alanis morrisette if americans understand irony...haha
You forgot poor old stan laurel..now isn't that ironic? don't you think?
I'm interested in the fact you mention Joan Rivers, her acidic comments cutting remarks razor sharp tongue and near the knuckle humour makes julian clary look like a care bear!
arista
23-08-2012, 02:14 PM
yeah hes got a sharp tongue and can put people down ,so what?
beyond the surface what else is there to mr cleary?
his put downs seem obvious pre-prepared and over-used
he seems cold, sly, totally uncommunicative and hard work to be around
I know many people like that, they never ever ever open up, they just do and say the obvious thing to stay popular with the people they think can help them and their careers
His nomination was sooooo predictable as he played up to the women and to what he thinks the audience wants to see, i.e. him picking on the supposedly stupid yank
I think situation will be far more popular than cleary realises and cleary will no doubt fake some warmth to him when the situation survives a few weeks...pathetic
people will call the others stupid and julian clever because he can insult the so easily, insulting people, less intelligent people just for fun, is not something to be proud of
i think its a defence mechanism tbh and it can come across as negative and nasty, he just seems to have not developed his personality further and doesnt have the guts to open up and be real and natural like some others
Yes but many in the Media
have said he did not want to go in.
He has a style - Like his comedy Gigs
You like him
or
You Do not like Him
Its that simple.
lostalex
23-08-2012, 02:15 PM
Ask alanis morrisette if americans understand irony...haha
You forgot poor old stan laurel..now isn't that ironic? don't you think?
I'm interested in the fact you mention Joan Rivers, her acidic comments cutting remarks razor sharp tongue and near the knuckle humour makes julian clary look like a care bear!
Alanis Morissette is Canadian. lol
the truth
23-08-2012, 02:16 PM
Ask alanis morrisette if americans understand irony...haha
You forgot poor old stan laurel..now isn't that ironic? don't you think?
I'm interested in the fact you mention Joan Rivers, her acidic comments cutting remarks razor sharp tongue and near the knuckle humour makes julian clary look like a care bear!
yes on the stage. I would also add that she is a genius and laughs at herself and doesnt choose easy targets like clary. basically at heart she is a very very warm caring person, a great communicator who does loads for charity. she wouldnt be reduced to insulting the situation non stop for a week. shed go after the bullies.
the truth
23-08-2012, 02:16 PM
Alanis Morissette is Canadian.
now thats ironic:blush:
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 02:17 PM
language timothy always a sure sign a an knows hes in the wrong:nono:
so julian is aiming his poision at the most obvious predictable target, wow how original how impressive zzzzzzzzzzz:sleep:
Maybe he has touched a raw nerve...sometimes the truth hurts...
aye probably
no according to gllah, the english picking on every american who ever walks onto reality tv over decades and on every chat and quiz show for decades is NOT anti american....yet 1 poster coming on here and criticizing the english IS anti english
Im english and Im ashamed of our anti americanism and double standards
I'm not actually English myself, I'm Australian now living in the UK...
You seem to think the English are in general anti American, which is complete bull... If anything it is the other way round, look at how the English are portrayed in American culture! Most American's seem to think all English people talk like they are a member of the Royal family, have bad teeth & are stuffy & reserved...
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 02:17 PM
Alanis Morissette is Canadian.
Oh, don't get me started on them ay?...:joker:
lostalex
23-08-2012, 02:19 PM
now thats ironic:blush:
;)
the truth
23-08-2012, 02:20 PM
blinkin canadians they come over here ....they steal our irony
dyfed
23-08-2012, 02:21 PM
blinkin canadians they come over here ....they steal our irony
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 02:22 PM
I'm not actually English myself, I'm Australian now living in the UK...
You seem to think the English are in general anti American, which is complete bull... If anything it is the other way round, look at how the English are portrayed in American culture! Most American's seem to think all English people talk like they are a member of the Royal family, have bad teeth & are stuffy & reserved...
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/21309711.jpg
Come on we have been poking fun at each other for years...potato potAto tomato tomAto...haha
dyfed
23-08-2012, 02:22 PM
Oh, don't get me started on them ay?...:joker:
:hugesmile:
flamingGalah!
23-08-2012, 02:24 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/21309711.jpg
Come on we have been poking fun at each other for years...potato potAto tomato tomAto...haha
Exactly! Quite why "The Thruth" (who really should change his username) seems to think the English are anti American is beyond me, especially when as a country have been America's lap dog for years :joker:
lostalex
23-08-2012, 02:24 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/21309711.jpg
Come on we have been poking fun at each other for years...potato potAto tomato tomAto...haha
so putting a picture of an english woman over an American flag, is that meant to be a peace offering?
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 02:26 PM
http://foureyedcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/canadians-south-park.jpg
We do not take responsibility for ms Morrisette okay ay?
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 02:26 PM
so putting a picture of an english woman over an American flag, is that meant to be a peace offering?
Would you like fries with my reply?
lostalex
23-08-2012, 02:28 PM
Would you like fries with my reply?
white devil speak with forked tongue.
http://vanillablonde.com/store/images/large/indian-chief_LGE.jpg
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 02:32 PM
http://cdn.ragestache.com/2011/12/20/a348bad4f292faccb271f45ca94cdeb9.jpg
Hey alex...supersize me! :D
lostalex
23-08-2012, 02:34 PM
http://cdn.ragestache.com/2011/12/20/a348bad4f292faccb271f45ca94cdeb9.jpg
Hey alex...supersize me! :D
supersize yur box of wine you mean? nah, i'm cutting you off, you've had enuf.
arista
23-08-2012, 02:35 PM
Kitty
in Destroy Mode
Sexy
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 02:38 PM
http://atodblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/drunk-british-girl1.jpg
I'm not drunk ocifer...honest i'm just really tired!
lostalex
23-08-2012, 02:39 PM
Kitty
in Destroy Mode
Sexy
Destroy her braincells with cheap wine mode. Nothing sexy about that, Unless you are George Galloway in the mood for some "bad sexual ettiquette".
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 02:40 PM
Kitty
in Destroy Mode
Sexy
No, just having a bit of transatlantic humour with alex is all :D
arista
23-08-2012, 02:43 PM
No, just having a bit of transatlantic humour with alex is all :D
Yes we need to Fly out there
lostalex
23-08-2012, 02:47 PM
both Kizzy and Arista, you are welcome to come stay on my couch anytime you come around here. and i promise there will be no "bad sexual etiquette" :)
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 03:00 PM
Yes we need to Fly out there
you hear that alex?..the brits are coming!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_QjLqcP52EC4/SzpeRZF1L5I/AAAAAAAABQU/4dYDFNnjhdY/s400/Wayne_Slob.jpg
Put the kettle on!!
lostalex
23-08-2012, 03:07 PM
you hear that alex?..the brits are coming!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_QjLqcP52EC4/SzpeRZF1L5I/AAAAAAAABQU/4dYDFNnjhdY/s400/Wayne_Slob.jpg
Put the kettle on!!
i'll make some fine british cuisine.... mashed potatoes and sausage...you'll feel right at home.
the truth
23-08-2012, 03:08 PM
fish and chips , plenty of batter , greasy side up
InOne
23-08-2012, 03:18 PM
Yorkshire Puddings
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 03:27 PM
i'll make some fine british cuisine.... mashed potatoes and sausage...you'll feel right at home.
Sounds yummy, I prefer meat and two veg...
http://www.ooohmatron.org/matron.gif
lostalex
23-08-2012, 03:34 PM
Sounds yummy, I prefer meat and two veg...
http://www.ooohmatron.org/matron.gif
pervert. :nono:
Kizzy
23-08-2012, 03:51 PM
pervert. :nono:
What?... I love a roast dinner ...:hugesmile:Don't think I will be having aubergine for a while though:blush:
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