Face 2 face - saving Julie

[alex_front2]

she probably would have been up with DR noms.

[joeysteele]

No it didn't in my view, no one really wants to nominate her,some may not care for some things she says but they respect her,last time she got no nominations in the diary room and only one last night.

The housemates overall really like her and see no reason to nominate her expect for Lorenzo.
He likely guesses she has nominated him in the past and she has done, only Coleeen would possibly have nominated her in the diary room but that is far from certain, as she sort of believes she got booed in part for going on and getting at Julie.

[alex_front2]

Martin Colleen prob would have in anonymity of DR. Both have expressed unease with her. Julian is wising up to her (slating colleen for no reason, not picking him for God, accusing rhian and danica as players).

[joeysteele]

Martin wouldn't nominate Julie, in fact listening back to all he said to the guys,he wasn't really getting at Julie anyway.
He said he loved her to bits and that they should be careful not to go as far as she would, that she was taking things a bit too far as to the 2 girls and if they appeared tp gang up against them with her it wouldn't likely look good.

He wasn't saying Julie was wrong in what she was saying about the 2 girls but only that she went too far at times so leave her to it herself,(after all he was ridiculing Danica with the Prince with the guys as well).
No way could I see Martin nominating her at all,I would have bet on that,I personally don't think the thought even entered his head.

[Patricia4]

I dont think it would of made any difference she would'nt of been up.
She does'nt bother with Lorenzo that's why he picked her.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Martin wouldn't nominate Julie, in fact listening back to all he said to the guys,he wasn't really getting at Julie anyway.
He said he loved her to bits and that they should be careful not to go as far as she would, that she was taking things a bit too far as to the 2 girls and if they appeared tp gang up against them with her it wouldn't likely look good.

He wasn't saying Julie was wrong in what she was saying about the 2 girls but only that she went too far at times so leave her to it herself,(after all he was ridiculing Danica with the Prince with the guys as well).
No way could I see Martin nominating her at all,I would have bet on that,I personally don't think the thought even entered his head.

I think Martin's being tactical. He doesn't want to be seen to be too critical of Julie in case she's actually popular with the GBP outside the House, but he's trying to hedge his bets by warning the 'Pussy' Posse off jumping on the bandwagon with her, in case she goes too far. If she went too far and took Asley & Harvey with her, Martin would be faced with the choice of being branded with them as being cruel and unfair, which would damage his image long term, or going out on a limb by himself and risking getting voted out.

[chuff me dizzy]

she probably would have been up with DR noms.

Spot on right ,last minute decision (never been mentioned until it happened) to be certain of her being in final ,Im convinced it is in her contract,knowing what a demanding bitch ,she would have hated to not stay till final

[joeysteele]

I think Martin's being tactical. He doesn't want to be seen to be too critical of Julie in case she's actually popular with the GBP outside the House, but he's trying to hedge his bets by warning the 'Pussy' Posse off jumping on the bandwagon with her, in case she goes too far. If she went too far and took Asley & Harvey with her, Martin would be faced with the choice of being branded with them as being cruel and unfair, which would damage his image long term, or going out on a limb by himself and risking getting voted out.

Also very fair and strong points, I can go with all that. Very well said.
Just another reason too why he would near certainly not have nominated Julie face to face, diary room or anywhere else for that matter.

[showtime77]

Listen, if you want someone up and out and you haven't got the front to tell them to their face tough luck. Even though Harvey is not my kind of person I like the way he spoke his mind in nominations and has done so throughout the entire voting process. He is not coming up will silly excuses and says it as he sees it.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Coleen probably would have nominated her. But she still would have just missed eviction.

[chuff me dizzy]

Coleen probably would have nominated her. But she still would have just missed eviction.

I think Martin would have too

[joeysteele]

Listen, if you want someone up and out and you haven't got the front to tell them to their face tough luck. Even though Harvey is not my kind of person I like the way he spoke his mind in nominations and has done so throughout the entire voting process. He is not coming up will silly excuses and says it as he sees it.

Good points too, I also like the way Harvey says what he thinks too,good on him for that.

[Ellen]

Listen, if you want someone up and out and you haven't got the front to tell them to their face tough luck. Even though Harvey is not my kind of person I like the way he spoke his mind in nominations and has done so throughout the entire voting process. He is not coming up will silly excuses and says it as he sees it.

:thumbs:

[chuff me dizzy]

First time ive known it, last night several people on BBBOTS facebook, were saying face to face was used to save Julie and claiming it is fixed for her to win ,and someone from BBBOTS cam on and replied ,saying there is no fix ,speaks volumes

[MeMyselfAndI]

Julie won't win dw

[joeysteele]

I predict Martin will never nominate Julie also she may not win but she will be at the very least 3rd and likely 2nd.I can see Martin or Julian being the Winner if she doesn't.

As for her being nominated more in the diary room, I repeat again, it wouldn't have happened, Coleen still feels her boos were because she got at Julie,she would steer clear of nominating her again especially in the diary room as she would then have not seen Julie nominate her.
No one else has any even medium issue with Julie never mind any major ones.

Martin too wasn't being as ungracious as first thought, his conversation didn't get at Julie, just said she took the issue too far and the guys should let her do her thing and not follow suit too much for public image.
Adding he loved Julie to bits. No way will he nominate her at all,I cannot see it.

Also,the main telling point comes from the evicted Rhian, who despite seeing Julie nominate her and being really disappointed that she did, would still not have nominated her, face to face or diary room even after seeing that and being asked after her eviction.

If Rhian knowing all that still wouldn't have nominated then as sure as I can be,I cannot see a single other peson in the house doing so other then Lorenzo.
Julie is unlikely to ever get more than 2 noms in the series as to a nomination session,she will only be up when they who are left for the final are all up in a vote to win.

[chuff me dizzy]

Will be interesting to see what Lorenzo said about her ,and to watch her back stabbing for daring to do it