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the truth
02-09-2012, 03:06 PM
sick to death of this narrow minded man and his bigotry

he hates americans, he hates all hetresexual men, he doesnt like houseives either and prejudges them all as exactly the same

he prejudges people on their accents and eloquence

he calls people common , he judges people by their bodies too

he hates people because of what sexuality they are, what nationality they are, what bodyshape they are, what paper they write for, what a hypocritical snob

yet when it comes to rinsers or gay people, he makes exceptions

the man is disturbingly narrow minded cold and bigotted, I predicted it from the start, but I was really hoping hed prove me wrong. sadly hes been terribly narrow minded, cold and frankly ignorant. if he was bullied at school , i sypthize, but with all the success hes had in his chosen profession and a nice home and setled down, at aged 53 youd think hed be big enough to finally drop the massive bitterness and chip on both shoulders. sadly hes not. hes not funny, hes mean and nasty

Marcus.
02-09-2012, 03:10 PM
he is funny and clever

the truth
02-09-2012, 03:11 PM
he is funny and clever

hes unfuny , mean , judgemental and bigotted:nono:

Marcus.
02-09-2012, 03:12 PM
hes unfuny , mean , judgemental and bigotted:nono:

no she is speck what on his mind

MTVN
02-09-2012, 03:16 PM
How does he hate all heterosexual men?

waterhog
02-09-2012, 03:21 PM
very good points in original post - allot to chew on - i have mixed feelings on julian but i am rapidly going off him the more and more i hear from his mouth - i did think at one stage he was joking - but i dont understand why this man has so much hate in him.

Roy Mars III
02-09-2012, 03:22 PM
he's terrible

the truth
02-09-2012, 03:48 PM
How does he hate all heterosexual men?

have you watched the show? he destest them, he considers them all neanderthal bores who only talk football 24/7 utter bigotted drivel.

im a hetro male and I dig ballet, classical music, pop music, i do sinatra on karaoke, dont have tatooes, dont attend football, but love rugby, movies, cricket, tennis, swiming, chess, reading endlessly, writing, running businesses etc etc and I have a pink phone and sometimes drink cocktails out of a tumbler with an umbrella and am not too scared to wear some hawaii 5 o shirts. I dont prejudge gay men, straight men, women or gay women or bi women, the wya julian prejudges straight men

I love loads of comedy from the political bill hicks, to the self confessional richard prior, the rantings of chris rock, the musings of larry david, the hysteria of joan rivers, I love camp comedy if its funny like dick emery, kenneth williams, graham norton can be funny at times....im disgusted how narrow minded and hypocritical julian clary has proved to be

Munchkins
02-09-2012, 03:51 PM
You make some valid points
it seems that because he is gay, people think he cannot be labelled a bigot, as he has probably been a victim to bigotry and homophobic, but he can.

Shaun
02-09-2012, 03:55 PM
rofl

the truth
02-09-2012, 03:58 PM
You make some valid points
it seems that because he is gay, people think he cannot be labelled a bigot, as he has probably been a victim to bigotry and homophobic, but he can.

Good point well made

Let me tell you a story.

I watched a small boy get on a school bus one day, he had some form of cerebral palesy. there were no teachers no adults, just kids running wild. an indian boy piped up and said something mean about the boy. at which point other boys went mad and started calling the indian boy racist names

the fact is the indian boy was bigotted and discriminating and then he was also discriminated against as revenge. you therefore have to act to prevent both forms of discrimination, but if you dont tackle the indian boys bigotry then you wont stop the abuse he receives. equaltity and law must work both ways equally. but it doesnt. how many twitter police cases or sexual discrimination or sexism cases or discrimination cases have been taken on from hetrosexual men? compared to women, gay people, disabled people, different religions, nationalities and other groups? etc

men are told to man up and laugh it off? why the double standard?

this is the way human nature often works.

but to allow greater protection for one group over another creates mass problems and people feel angry and have no voice. hence we then see the rise of the disgusting bnp and such like. everyone can be bigotted. in the case of julian he needs to be called out for labelling groups of people in such a negative way. I dont even think its being funny , he really means it, thats a key difference. as a man I find it offensive.

say we flipped the script and took all he said over the weeks as a straight man saying it about gay people, disabled people or women. theyre all the same boring all do the same thing talk the same thing, the way he condescends about americans too is near the knuckle. its not just one off comments with julian its his entire persona. theres a lot of negativity and judgement coming from this man.

flamingGalah!
02-09-2012, 04:51 PM
Oh FFS, are you STILL flogging this dead horse... :sleep:

Could you not have added your latest "insightful" comments to one of the several similar threads you started in the past week...

Bridget51
02-09-2012, 04:58 PM
Julian is disgusting and I cannot believe anyone would vote to save him let alone vote to win

flamingGalah!
02-09-2012, 05:00 PM
Julian is disgusting and I cannot believe anyone would vote to save him let alone vote to win

How has he been "disgusting" :conf:

I'm afraid there is only one bigot on this thread & that is the OP...

Jordan.
02-09-2012, 05:05 PM
Well he's only interesting to watch when he's slagging other people off so I hope he keeps it up.

Vanessa
02-09-2012, 05:09 PM
I agree! I hope he keeps it up! I like his rants! :hugesmile:

Suze
02-09-2012, 05:11 PM
Julian, best one left in that house now :hugesmile:

Nedusa
02-09-2012, 05:11 PM
You make some valid comparisons but for all his perceived faults I still maintain his good points outweigh these possible shortcomings. He is a genuinely funny man who does not carry bad feeling around. Also he may be exaggerating this side of his personality for the cameras.

I for one would still want him to win...!!!

Black Dagger
02-09-2012, 05:51 PM
'He hates all heterosexual men'

I stopped reading, go away.

pcro
02-09-2012, 06:05 PM
he's the house class act.

the truth
02-09-2012, 06:06 PM
'He hates all heterosexual men'

I stopped reading, go away.

in that case you have no right to comment

Black Dagger
02-09-2012, 06:07 PM
in that case you have no right to comment

You make a thread with a silly opening title and I'll respond. tyvm

karezza
02-09-2012, 06:24 PM
Julian or Julian to win.

Mystic Mock
02-09-2012, 06:31 PM
The only thing I noticed was, was that Julian hated Samantha because of what job she has, but other than that I disagree with you completely, especially on the he hates all hetrosexual men statement.

Saph
02-09-2012, 06:38 PM
I doubt he hates everything.. hes a comedian so hes gonna say what he has to to get people to laugh.

daniel-lewis-1985
02-09-2012, 06:43 PM
have you watched the show? he destest them, he considers them all neanderthal bores who only talk football 24/7 utter bigotted drivel.

im a hetro male and I dig ballet, classical music, pop music, i do sinatra on karaoke, dont have tatooes, dont attend football, but love rugby, movies, cricket, tennis, swiming, chess, reading endlessly, writing, running businesses etc etc and I have a pink phone and sometimes drink cocktails out of a tumbler with an umbrella and am not too scared to wear some hawaii 5 o shirts. I dont prejudge gay men, straight men, women or gay women or bi women, the wya julian prejudges straight men

I love loads of comedy from the political bill hicks, to the self confessional richard prior, the rantings of chris rock, the musings of larry david, the hysteria of joan rivers, I love camp comedy if its funny like dick emery, kenneth williams, graham norton can be funny at times....im disgusted how narrow minded and hypocritical julian clary has proved to be

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA!!!!!

That is all you do.

How come you are a fan of Joan Rivers and not Julian? This is a woman who makes fun of Princess Dianas death, tells racist jokes, homophobic jokes and basically jokes about every ethnicity and sex in the world yet you think Julian is the devils spawn? LOL (ps i love Joan btw).

I think you dont like him purely based on the fact that hes gay and you think that people will only vote for him because of his sexuality which pisses you off.

Cherie
02-09-2012, 07:04 PM
The only thing I noticed was, was that Julian hated Samantha because of what job she has, but other than that I disagree with you completely, especially on the he hates all hetrosexual men statement.

Agreed.

AnnieK
02-09-2012, 07:10 PM
Tbf this attitude is how and why Julian is famous..his outspokenness has been his trade mark. He has a dry sense of humour and his comedy is very observational. I love him... The OP comments whilst having a sense of validity to some are completely generalised

Macie Lightfoot
02-09-2012, 07:31 PM
He's not even funny. The whole occasional table joke was way too tryhard and cringe with how he kept trying to make it work.

smudgie
02-09-2012, 07:54 PM
You either get him or you don't.

i think he is a great fella, hope he is in the top 3.

Lady Ram
02-09-2012, 11:47 PM
I STILL LOVE JULIAN CLARY :D you're comment doesn't mean anything....

billy123
02-09-2012, 11:54 PM
Im still reeling at the truth accusing someone else of having a chip on their shoulder.

lostalex
03-09-2012, 12:13 AM
Ohh yet another thread where the truth is trying to convince us to feel sorry for straight men and realize what a hard lot straight men have in this life.

Seriously dude, give it up. I think you'd gain more sympathy on a neo-nazi forum, or a right wing forum. Maybe the BB forum is not the best place to complain about gays and women! lol

ConnieLingus
03-09-2012, 12:20 AM
Ohh yet another thread where the truth is trying to convince us to feel sorry for straight men and realize what a hard lot straight men have in this life.

Seriously dude, give it up. I think you'd gain more sympathy on a neo-nazi forum, or a right wing forum. Maybe the BB forum is not the best place to complain about gays and women! lol

Not agreeing with something a gay says = Neo-nazism!!!!

:hugesmile::hugesmile::hugesmile::hugesmile:

** **ing priceless ** **e. :dance:

SharkAttack
03-09-2012, 12:23 AM
I doubt he hates everything.. hes a comedian so hes gonna say what he has to to get people to laugh.

I agree with this. I also liken him, slightly, to a gentler version of Caroline, in his barbs. I thought he'd be a lot more obnoxious and outwardly crude when I saw his preview clip, but he's been a welcome addition to the show. I'd like to see him win.

lostalex
03-09-2012, 01:12 AM
Not agreeing with something a gay says = Neo-nazism!!!!

:hugesmile::hugesmile::hugesmile::hugesmile:

** **ing priceless ** **e. :dance:

something "a gay" says?

I said claiming that str8 men are an oppressed minority, and that there is a conspiracy by gay people against str8 people is something at home on a neo-nazi site.

You don't agree?

the truth
03-09-2012, 03:52 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA!!!!!

That is all you do.

How come you are a fan of Joan Rivers and not Julian? This is a woman who makes fun of Princess Dianas death, tells racist jokes, homophobic jokes and basically jokes about every ethnicity and sex in the world yet you think Julian is the devils spawn? LOL (ps i love Joan btw).

I think you dont like him purely based on the fact that hes gay and you think that people will only vote for him because of his sexuality which pisses you off.

Ive reported this abusive post to big brother. disgusting:nono:

88Paul99
03-09-2012, 05:48 AM
Julian is the kindest most decent person in there.

Interesting how the man is quite reserved and not like his outlandish stage persona. Insecure people will often think someone like Julian hates or looks down on people just because he is reserved and intelligent.

daniel-lewis-1985
03-09-2012, 09:55 AM
Ive reported this abusive post to big brother. disgusting:nono:

How was my post disgusting?

It was factualy stating that Joan Rivers does make jokes about Princess Dianas death, homophobia ect.

You wont get me infracted for that mate.

HBB1508
03-09-2012, 10:23 AM
Julian is the kindest most decent person in there.

Interesting how the man is quite reserved and not like his outlandish stage persona. Insecure people will often think someone like Julian hates or looks down on people just because he is reserved and intelligent.

Totally agree with this - also I don't think we have seen enough of Julian given he seems to have been looking after Julie in there.

Madmacs
03-09-2012, 10:48 AM
...one thing he can do is laugh at himself...the 'blokey' comments are as much as been an observation of himself as the blokes...he's not being offensive IMO and is holding up a mirror to you...what do you see in it?

Livia
03-09-2012, 11:10 AM
Julian is the kindest most decent person in there.

Interesting how the man is quite reserved and not like his outlandish stage persona. Insecure people will often think someone like Julian hates or looks down on people just because he is reserved and intelligent.

I agree. Especially the bit about insecure people.

Babschap
03-09-2012, 08:28 PM
I love Julian, I don't think he's bigoted, it's just his humour. I really hope he wins.

RTJK
03-09-2012, 09:32 PM
I don't mind Julian per se, but I do think he's very dull and controlled which makes for rather uninteresting viewing.

Realitybites
03-09-2012, 09:56 PM
I in no way think Julian is bigotted.
He's a dry wit and doesn't suffer fools gladly. I'd actually go so far as to say he's the most genuine and loyal HM in there as despite his flamboyant image he hasn't played to the cameras to hog the limelight like he could have. He's made me laugh out loud several times and I suspect there would have been more had the HL's not been totally dominated by the Danica circus. I'd love him to win although I suspect he may not now as he's been so closely connected to Julie.

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