F.A.O People Who Keep Judging Harvey [Video Inside]

[Brother Leon]

Alot of people seem to judge him on what he done all the way back in 2005 and alot seem to say he was in no position to say Danica is talentless. The video(uploaded today) truly shows how ignorant those people were...

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A nice insight into his Life and what he's done and how he is right now.


9:55 onwards is pretty much for D.S and a large amount of people on here.:joker:

Loved the "Do you think I care if people/media say bad things about me when my daughter says she loves me?"

Seems a good guy even if he is a Liverpool Fan. Then again I only had to watch him in the house and ignore the love rat tag to know that.

[Jake.]

The only ignorant person is him. His claim to fame was cheating and sleeping around, yet he thought he had a right to judge another for harmless flirting?

[Roy Mars III]

The only ignorant person is him. His claim to fame was cheating and sleeping around, yet he thought he had a right to judge another for harmless flirting?

no it wasn't

[Jake.]

no it wasn't

Oh sorry, and being insignificant in a 30 member 'band'.

[Jordan.]

13 minutes long?

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z341/jordannn__/Cher%20Lloyd%20GIF/148281M9x2EH8C.gif

He'll have disappeared again by the end of this week so I don't care enough.

[Roy Mars III]

Oh sorry, and being insignificant in a 30 member 'band'.

better than most in there

[Brother Leon]

The only ignorant person is him. His claim to fame was cheating and sleeping around, yet he thought he had a right to judge another for harmless flirting?

So much is wrong with that post. Shows the ignorance I am talking about tbh.

Never mind the 4 millions albums or being the first U.K rapper to top the charts. Never mind the fact So Solid Crew, Along with Pay As You Go and Old School Roll Deep are pretty much pioneers of a couple Music Genres.

He has every right to have judged the way Danica was acting. He made a couple mistakes back in 2005 and has since changed and become a dedicated boyfriend with a daughter that adores him. He of all people would know if the flirting was really innocent if anything.

[Locke.]

Poor guy is going to get out and find out we've got no strikers :( Think we'll have to minimize the pain and help him come second behind Sitch

[Munchkins]

Regardless of what he has to say, i can't listen to someone who preaches to other people are how to act with a gf/bf yet cheated on his wife, and his long term girlfriend who had a daughter with him

[Lee.]

Oh sorry, and being insignificant in a 30 member 'band'.

Omg! I've just realised think I do know what band he was in!

[Jake.]

So much is wrong with that post. Shows the ignorance I am talking about tbh.

Never mind the 4 millions albums or being the first U.K rapper to top the charts. Never mind the fact So Solid Crew, Along with Pay As You Go and Old School Roll Deep are pretty much pioneers of a couple Music Genres.

He has every right to have judged the way Danica was acting. He made a couple mistakes back in 2005 and has since changed and become a dedicated boyfriend with a daughter that adores him. He of all people would know if the flirting was really innocent if anything.

No there isn't. And don't accuse me of ignorance. Fact is he is in no position to judge. He cheated on his wives, yet thinks he can take the moral highground on somebody else because they flirted? No. And being the first rapper to top the charts doesn't make his personality any less worse. And yes, he may have a girlfriend and a daughter, but he did what he did, and therefore has no right to judge others on their mistakes, never mind Danica. Truth is, he is a contradictive prick.

[Black Dagger]

13 minutes? HA

And the fact he nominated Lorenzo for his 'morals' says a lot about him... if he wasn't a cheating love-rat he could have got away with that remark.

[Brother Leon]

JH & Luke...So,so wrong, but Either way your reactions are proving that you are judging him off something outside the house. :joker:


It's a shame considering there was an uproar on here if someone judges Jasmine for ****ing Simon Cowell and selling a story or Rhian/Danica being topless models and Internet Girlfriends.

[Jords]

Hes a bore, whatever the case.

[Jordan.]

13 minutes? HA

And the fact he nominated Lorenzo for his 'morals' says a lot about him... if he wasn't a cheating love-rat he could have got away with that remark.

Notice how Lorenzo is the one with the bad morals but there was no mention of Mike/Ashley doing the exact same thing as him if not worse. It's just because the prince isn't one of his BOYS it's not cool.

[Jamie585]

I nearly fell asleep.

[Jake.]

JH & Luke...So,so wrong, but Either way your reactions are proving that you are judging him off something outside the house. :joker:


It's a shame considering there was an uproar on here if someone judges Jasmine for ****ing Simon Cowell and selling a story or Rhian/Danica being topless models and Internet Girlfriends.

Just like he judged Danica for her job in the beginning of the series :rolleyes: If he didn't feel the need to then have a rant about Danica's flirting, I wouldn't have a problem. But if he chooses to be a hypocrite, I will judge him as one. And we aren't wrong, we have opinions which differ from yours. Move on.

[Brother Leon]

Notice how Lorenzo is the one with the bad morals but there was no mention of Mike/Ashley doing the exact same thing as him if not worse. It's just because the prince isn't one of his BOYS it's not cool.

Not, it's because Prince tried to take the moral high ground with the "She has a boyfriend guys, back off her and give her a break", while flirting with her embarrassingly on their own.

[Jamie585]

Just like he judged Danica for her job in the beginning of the series :roll: If he didn't feel the need to then have a rant about Danica's flirting, I wouldn't have a problem. But if he chooses to be a hypocrite, I will judge him as one. And we aren't wrong, we have opinions which differ from yours. Move on.

This ^

[optimisticcynic]

Have a lot of time for Harvey. He has made mistakes in life and hopefully learnt from them. This does not exclude him from having an opinion now. It is likely that through the outrage of others when he was a bellend, he found motivation to effect change in his attitude and life. Hopefully his outrage now will have a similar effect on others. The whole point of reform is to encourage the same in others.
So Solid Crew were awesome and made the early noughties for me. God bless Vodbull and Speed Garage.
And it IS an unwritten law that if a friend is making a play for a lass, you do not piss in his love potion when his back is turned (I have had to paraphrase this law, as it is hard to accurately recall, as it is unwritten).

[Brother Leon]

Just like he judged Danica for her job in the beginning of the series :rolleyes: If he didn't feel the need to then have a rant about Danica's flirting, I wouldn't have a problem. But if he chooses to be a hypocrite, I will judge him as one. And we aren't wrong, we have opinions which differ from yours. Move on.

He said she was talentless. A fair nomination point and Something even she said was true and agreed with. Is he not allowed to think that now because he had an affair in 2005?

[Jake.]

He said she was talentless. A fair nomination point and Something even she said was true and agreed with. Is he not allowed to think that now because he had an affair in 2005?

No, I respnded to the comment of me judging him on his time outside of the house, exactly what he did to Danica. He then proceeded to take some form of moral-highground over her, despite not having one to take in the first place.

[RodHull]

What a crock of s**t... tbh her appearances in the adult industry and later soft stuff like Nuts/FHM etc probably make her alot more of a celebrity than some has been rapper whos released 3 albums in a decade (one of which anyone actually listened to)

Hes shocking, he talked about how funny it was watching JS where Mike and his mates 'played' all the girls, then slammed Danica for doing the same thing.

Total hypocrite

[flamingGalah!]

Harvey is a total *******

[MeMyselfAndI]

lmfao how pathetic trying to show hes relevant by mumbling on for 13 minutes! :laugh3:
Hes not at all talented

[Brother Leon]

Yeah. Doesn't take any talent at all to be a rapper. He's arguably needed the most talent in that house.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

go away

[Jake.]

If Rebecca Black can get a number one... just saying

[flamingGalah!]

Yeah. Doesn't take any talent at all to be a rapper. He's arguably needed the most talent in that house.

It doesn't really no! :joker:

[MeMyselfAndI]

So much is wrong with that post. Shows the ignorance I am talking about tbh.

Never mind the 4 millions albums or being the first U.K rapper to top the charts. Never mind the fact So Solid Crew, Along with Pay As You Go and Old School Roll Deep are pretty much pioneers of a couple Music Genres.

He has every right to have judged the way Danica was acting. He made a couple mistakes back in 2005 and has since changed and become a dedicated boyfriend with a daughter that adores him. He of all people would know if the flirting was really innocent if anything.

Lmao, now you're lieing & making up **** to try & make them seem very sucessfull. If you divide 4 Million by 8 thats way closer to the album Sales:laugh3:

First album sold 500,000 & second one sold just under 35,000
As a solo artist he completely flopped & both albums combined were less than 20,000.

So you're argument is floored.
Also So Solid crew consisted of like 30 members so It's shocking

[Jake.]

:laugh:

[flamingGalah!]

:laugh2:

[Jamie585]

:laugh3:

[Brother Leon]

*sigh*

"Owned" so cringe. :laugh:


Made a mistake most likely, I went off what was said in the Video(you obviously didn't watch it). Even when your figures are true, that is pretty much a double platinum album at a time when no one was into the Street fools who could rap fast. Says it all that most of the Popstar chart topping rappers won't even sell that much and this is a time when that sort of **** is supposed to sell. It doesn't stop the impact they had. To call Garage and UK Grime's breakthrough act Shocking and talentless is ridiculous and disrespectful. Seeing as you love your sales and chart data, Several chart toppers such as Tinie Tempah,Wiley,Dizzee Rascal,Wretch & Tinchy Stryder have been bought through due to what they done. I'm not gonna argue with you any further over the Success and legacy of So Solid tbh. Tbh, I'm an idiot for even discussing them on here, because chances are people don't care or don't liek them so it's all good.

Stick to your Leona Lewis and Cher Lloyd. Au Revoir.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I will happily do so knowing I actually have music to come
& their records are **** compared to Leonas hehe

[Brother Leon]

Why do I still have to read Scott's **** when he is on ignore, just because someone quoted him? Ergh. :laugh:



Oh and bless. Leona is finished. I look forward to your reaction when her single bombs xoxo

[MeMyselfAndI]

I'm sure her album will suprass in sales all of So Solid crews total album sales & Harveys combined, oh wait thats not very hard.. xo

(Atleast you now admit So Solid crew bombed)

[Brother Leon]

lol at 500k being poor sales. I take it Leona's last album Echo is a flop then as that's done 500-600?


Before you say"Oh look how much later,Leona's was". Simon Cowell,X Factor and generally being a "Talented Pop Star" while the other is from a Grime/Garage Group should make up for all of that. As if anyone else is buying her album again anyway so there it is. :joker:

"Owned" as you would say.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Leonas latest album has sold 2.5m, next :idc:

[MeMyselfAndI]

Owned I think not, god you're so bad at this..

[Brother Leon]

United Kingdom (BPI)[115] 2× Platinum 600,000

Thanks xoxoxoxo


Couldn't care about international sales. 1D are bigger in the U.S than here as are Cher Lloyd :laugh:

[MeMyselfAndI]

Put It this way

Leona - 2 albums 10M album sales

Harvey(solo) - 2 albums 20k album sales

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

rofl 20k

i could get more than that

[MeMyselfAndI]

Lol, she released 2 singles & "Echo" has 700k album sales in the UK, more than all of so solids crew albums & Harveys combined, with about 10 singles hehe, let alone that she sold 2.5m hehe

[MeMyselfAndI]

rofl 20k

i could get more than that

:laugh3:
I love how he writes off International sales too!

[Brother Leon]

*Yawn*

This is boring now. Can't believe I'm comparing So Solid to Leona :joker:, I've proven my point that the forum has judged him on outside the house and that he is far from talentless as being a Rapper requires........shock horror talent.


Finally, lol at you comparing Leona's sales to a retired Underground Crew. Desperation at it's finest. Should you not be comparing her to Adele or someone else who was about at her time? If she is as great as you say she is? :laugh: I will remember you when her single flops though with Gambino.

I'll leave you to Scott now :laugh:

[armand.kay]

Wast 13 minutes on this **** << sew my palms together

[Shaun]

the only way this thread could get any worse is if Mark announces he's relenquishing his ownership of TiBB to Stacey in it

[Macie Lightfoot]

K not reading this mess of a thread, but I think aside from Locke/Brother Leon/whatever other clones of them exist, everyone is pretty much in general consensus that Harvey doesn't have a right to be the moral compass of the group (especially in regards to Danica.) He sucks and is boring, not worth having this long of a thread. Let's all move on.

[ozzyshaggah]

didnt know who he was coming into the house

so flamingGalah! (Harvey is a total *******) pretty much sums him up for me

[optimisticcynic]

Loved So Solid Crew. Garage and Grime pioneers.

[smeagol]

harvey is a nobhead a talentless wannabe who is pretending to be someone better than he is.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

K not reading this mess of a thread, but I think aside from Locke/Brother Leon/whatever other clones of them exist, everyone is pretty much in general consensus that Harvey doesn't have a right to be the moral compass of the group (especially in regards to Danica.) He sucks and is boring, not worth having this long of a thread. Let's all move on.

:lovedup:

[Stevep]

Harvey is a decent guy, sure he has made mistakes but so has everyone. Everyone calls him a love rat and yet treat the likes of Martin like a God, do all you guys honestly believe Martin didn't cheat back in the days of his band when women must have been throwing themselves all over him? Of course he did, over and over most likely. You live, you learn.

I'm not a big fan of the guy or anything along those lines, i just don;t think he is the malicious individual that everyone portrays him as.

People just love to judge on stereotypes.

[erinp5]

The guy from Plymouth is a nasty vile ignorant clown,innit.

[coolface]

I don't think he's even that bad, he doesn't deserve all the hate he gets here

[RodHull]

People just love to judge on stereotypes.

Not at all, I judge him on a combination of his past and present behaviour. Nothing Ive seen in that house tells me he has learned anything or has developed a better attitude towards women or relinquished his ill judged 'gangsta' style attitude.

He applauds Mike for the way he plays women on JS but slates Danica for doing the same thing, talks about women like property, shows his a**ehole in front of a 70 year old woman he barely knows and doesn't even apologise for it, insults and bullies two women cause they wouldn't get with his mates, s**t stirs a situation with his 'friend' for his own entertainment... etc etc

Add this behaviour to his frankly appalling past and you have yourself the dictionary definition of the word bellend... get it? got it! GOOD

[Livia]

I don't care what he's done in his private life. Judging him by how he's been in the house, I think he's immature and profoundly unamusing.

[mr rochester]

I think he's immature and profoundly unamusing.

Oh yes...

[Madmacs]

...it's good that someone reflects on their mistakes and can then use the experience to move on and have a more balanced life...the problem for me, is that with all of this experience Harvey could be less judgmental and critical of a younger person (male or female) but chooses to puff up his chest and moralise.

He's very old fashioned in his views about women and so for him it's OK for guys to do what they do but not the girls... IMO I think he would have had a totally different perspective if Danica had fancied him...he was annoyed at not being the centre of the 2 glamorous women's attentions and that's all really.

[Jake.]

Can we not just forget about him now? He is free to sink back into nothing again.