9/11 - 11 years on

[Benjamin]

Not quite the 11th over in UK or USA, but here in New Zealand it is. It's strange that it is 11 years, it's gone so quickly yet I'm still intrigued by all the conspiracy theories.

[lostalex]

Huge credit to Bush and Obama for keeping us safe for 11 years now.

The conspiracy theories go nowhere. I was interested at first (i love a good conspiracy theory) but there's nothing to them. With all the hackers, and wikileaks, etc... and still nothing... looks like there's nothing to it.

[Lee.]

Can't believe that happened 11 years ago! Still can't really believe it happened at all actually!

[lostalex]

They really need to hurry up and finnish that new tower though. The UK finished the shard this year and the Shard was started AFTER the new WTC right? New York needs to get their ass in gear on that tower.

[InOne]

There have been much worse things happen in recent times. Don't know why we have this big media takeover every year over it. Because it happened in a white western country perhaps?

[lostalex]

There have been much worse things happen in recent times. Don't know why we have this big media takeover every year over it. Because it happened in a white western country perhaps?

ummm, lots of black people died on 9/11 too. The USA is not like Japan or China or most African countries where most everyone is 1 race. In fact New York is probably the most racially diverse place on the planet.

[Lee.]

There have been much worse things happen in recent times. Don't know why we have this big media takeover every year over it. Because it happened in a white western country perhaps?
I can't think of anything worse.. not in recent years anyway. 9/11 affected me in a big way... nothing else has since. Obviously the London bombings were dreadful, but I don't think I'll ever cone to terms with seeing those planes hit, then the people jumping to their death, then the towers falling. Horrific doesn't even begin to describe it for me.

[InOne]

I can't think of anything worse.. not in recent years anyway. 9/11 affected me in a big way... nothing else has since. Obviously the London bombings were dreadful, but I don't think I'll ever cone to terms with seeing those planes hit, then the people jumping to their death, then the towers falling. Horrific doesn't even begin to describe it for me.

What about what's going on in Syria?

[billy123]

Its overrated they have murdered over a million people in revenge for 3,000 deaths the time to stop the woe is me act is years overdue.

[lostalex]

Its overrated they have murdered over a million people in revenge for 3,000 deaths the time to **** is years overdue.

a million people murdered by the US? link plzzz?

The vast majority of civilian deaths in Afghanistan have been by the Taliban and Al-queda, not the US led Coalition.

It's certainly not fair to use the entire death toll against the US. How many Hospitals has the US built there? how many has al queda built?

I guess we don't get credit for the hundreds of thousands of lives that we've saved, right?

[InOne]

ummm, lots of black people died on 9/11 too. The USA is not like Japan or China or most African countries where most everyone is 1 race. In fact New York is probably the most racially diverse place on the planet.

I was more alluding to the fact it happened in America.

[billy123]

a million people murdered by the US? link plzzz?give me a link that says they havent. organised murder nothing less its a disgrace.

[lostalex]

give me a link that says they havent.


give me a link that proves that YOU havn't murdered a million people. don't be silly.

[fruit_cake]

I can't believe I was 23 when that happened, now I'm an old fogey

[billy123]

give me a link that proves that YOU havn't murdered a million people. don't be silly.dont be so silly organised murder is disgusting.

[Benjamin]

I can't believe I was 23 when that happened, now I'm an old fogey

I was 17. I still remember being at a pub in Brighton on a college art course watching it all happen live on tv.

[lostalex]

dont be so silly organised murder is disgusting.

I agree, that's why we are at war with those organized murderers. that's why we hunt them down.

[Redway]

What about what's going on in Syria?

We hear all that on the news every day.

[InOne]

We hear all that on the news every day.

That's not what we were on about though :conf:

[MTVN]

I don't think the significance of 9/11 is really in the death toll, it's more the fact that it shattered ideas about Western security and invincibilty, and it completely changed global relations for good pretty much. I'd say all the civilians who've died in Iraq, in Afghanistan, are just as much victims of 9/11 as the Americans that died that day

[billy123]

I agree, that's why we are at war with those organized murderers.More americans have died in Iraq as a result of the invasion than died on 9/11 and they had nothing to do with it WAY TO GO!

[Lee.]

What about what's going on in Syria?

There are horrible things happening the world over, but to me 9/11 was the most horrific thing I've lived through and witnessed. I think about it a lot yet don't think I'll ever really accept everything that happened that day.

And tbh I think on the anniversary of 9/11, I think this thread should one of remembrance and empathy, nor an excuse for people to ask why it gets so much attention or try and diminish its importance by comparing it with other tragedies.

Nobody has ever said its the only bad thing to have ever happened in the world, but those 3000 people deserve respect and remembrance.

[lostalex]

I think 9/11 is different from the violence in rest of the world because it was so shocking and so extreme. In the same what that there are murders everyday in the US, but they don't get the same reaction from the media as the Batman Shooting.

In the same way that other people died in traffic accidents in Paris on the same day as Princess Di, but you don't know their names.

[lostalex]

More americans have died in Iraq as a result of the invasion than died on 9/11 and they had nothing to do with it WAY TO GO!

Those Americans weren't innocent civilians completely unaware and that had absolutely nothing to do with the conflict. The mass murder of civilians in a huge event is not the same as the deaths of soldiers in a war fought over many years.

[Me. I Am Salman]

lostalex it's time to take off those rose coloured glasses

[lostalex]

lostalex it's time to take off those rose coloured glasses

no, it's time you learned how to have a proper conversation where you exchange ideas instead of just throwing out patronizing cliches.

[billy123]

lostalex it's time to take off those rose coloured glasses
Not much chance of that ive noticed murdering people seems ok as long as they arent amuuuricans it seems.

[Redway]

lostalex it's time to take off those rose coloured glasses

I have to agree with Alex. The 9/11 attacks had a much greater impact on society than any other bombings and completely turned around a lot of beliefs and marked the beginning of a different era for the world.

[lostalex]

Not much chance of that ive noticed murdering people seems ok as long as they arent amuuuricans it seems.


Still waiting to see a link to these suppossed murders...??

I am aware of specific US troops that have murdered civilians, and they have gone to trial in the US and been imprisoned for those crimes.. is that what you are referring to? They didn't kill 1 million though. i'm certain of that.

[Brother Leon]

I love just sitting down and watching documentary after documentary about it during this time. Some remarkable and scary stories.

[Kizzy]

11 years...wow! I was glued to the television that morning...It was horrific.

[fruit_cake]

I like watching those two films that are almost the same about the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania

[billy123]

Still waiting to see a link to these suppossed murders...??Go and look for your self theres this thing called google.

[lostalex]

Go and look for your self its theres this thing called google.

i checked. no credible news organizations have reported the US murdering 1 million people.

[billy123]

i checked. no credible news organizations have reported the US murdering 1 million people.thats handy son.
you seem to have changed what i said as well the murders i supposed were as a result of the iraq invasion.

[Lee.]

Not much chance of that ive noticed murdering people seems ok as long as they arent amuuuricans it seems.

That's low Bobnot.

This thread sucks, I'm not posting again in it. People trying to trivialise 9/11 and make it sound like it was ok as there are other mass murders happening in the world.

It was a shocking day and 3000 people were murdered. Horrific regardless of all arguments.

Respect to NYC

[lostalex]

thats handy son.
you seem to have changed what i said as well the murders i supposed were as a result of the iraq invasion.

oic, so every time someone gets blown up by an islamic terrorist bomb, you count that as them being murdered by the USA??

you have very twisted logic.

[billy123]

That's low Bobnot.

This thread sucks, I'm not posting again in it. People trying to trivialise 9/11 and make it sound like it was ok as there are other mass murders happening in the world.

It was a shocking day and 3000 people were murdered. Horrific regardless of all arguments.

Respect to NYC
Who is trying to trivialise it?
3000 people being murdered is horrible 1 million people being murdered in response to it is at the very least 60x as horrible.
But then again they dont get lots and lots of sad tv shows with sad music in the background shown constantly so they musnt be as important.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

The falling people will always be haunting images

[Benjamin]

The falling people will always be haunting images

Yeah, that was awful. Especially that photo of the man falling. :(

[Kazanne]

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remembering all those affected by 9/11

[Kazanne]

What about what's going on in Syria?

Today is about 9/11,we all know terrible things are happening all over the world,but today is about remembering 9/11 it doesn't mean people have forgotten other atrocities.

[InOne]

Today is about 9/11,we all know terrible things are happening all over the world,but today is about remembering 9/11 it doesn't mean people have forgotten other atrocities.

I didn't even post that comment today :idc:

[Josiah.]

I was 2 years old when this happened. Then re-watching NBC's footage of 9/11 is horrific. Gosh, I can't believe it has been 11 years. It's weird.

[Scarlett.]

A bigger tragedy is how many soliders and civilians have been killed in the following wars, tbh. I can't wait until the war in Afghanistan is over, the Western countries need to back off from the middle east and let them solve their own problems, we've caused so much destruction through our retalliation, much more than two towers.

All that being said, I still think 9/11 is a tragedy and its victims should be remembered.

[arista]

A bigger tragedy is how many soliders and civilians have been killed in the following wars, tbh. I can't wait until the war in Afghanistan is over, the Western countries need to back off from the middle east and let them solve their own problems, we've caused so much destruction through our retalliation, much more than two towers.

All that being said, I still think 9/11 is a tragedy and its victims should be remembered.


It may be over for western troops
then it will return to Woman at a level of a dog.



That Nation
has had Russians , Americans, British
and othe nations messing with its roots,
They want Women out of any Education
so once all troops out those schools will be destroyed.

[Scarlett.]

That may be, but our presence there is generally destructive, countries get better through revolution, not occupation.

[arista]

That may be, but our presence there is generally destructive, countries get better through revolution, not occupation.


Yes it was Stupid of Blair /GW Bush

[kinglee]

the world trade center was destroyed by it own people..thats my opinion

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[fruit_cake]

It may be over for western troops
then it will return to Woman at a level of a dog.



That Nation
has had Russians , Americans, British
and othe nations messing with its roots,
They want Women out of any Education
so once all troops out those schools will be destroyed.

I tend to agree with Arista, I think that's what will happen too. You can't advance a society 500 years in just 10

[Harry!]

Yes the events of the Twin Tower attacks etc are surrounded by controversy but you should remember the innocent people killed in the attacks. R.I.P. :(

[mrlecturer]

Canadian tv went cray cray with 9/11 documentaries and even some conspiracy theory reports.

Although i don't call myself a conspiracy theory nut, it's always interesting hearing different angles of such a tragic yet intriguing story - especially if its consequences are as seismic as 9/11. True thousands of innocent people lost their lives, but two words : Building 7.

Just food for thought, nothing more.

[mrlecturer]

Double post -.-

[Jamie.]

I'm 14, and normally, teenagers are intrigued in XBOX and all that ****, I'm not. I'm more interested in things like this.

It amazes me how Bush stayed presidant for a long time, but as soon as Obama trotted along, bish, bash, bosh Bin Laden is dead and more of the Al Queda are taken out.

Thank got for Obama :love:

[Marc]

I can remember where I was when I heard about it, seems like only a matter of years ago. Certainly not 11 :/

[AnnieK]

I can remember where I was when I heard about it, seems like only a matter of years ago. Certainly not 11 :/

It's one of those moments in time where everyone will remember where they were when they heard.... Time goes soo fast doesn't it.

[Nedusa]

I will always remember 911, the day the laws of Physics stopped working, the day the worlds mightiest superpower which spends over 800 Billion dollars a year on military and defence was outwitted by a few blokes with boxcutters.

I , like a vast number of people in the US and worldwide are not convinced by the official story of 911 and will never believe what we were told happened , happened that way. Over 3,000 innocent people went to their deaths that day and we owe it to them to find the truth of what actually happened.

Forget all the wild conspiracy theorys we just want to see an open and honest Inquiry that attempts to put to rest the many valid irregularities in the official story.

[Pyramid*]

I will always remember 911, the day the laws of Physics stopped working, the day the worlds mightiest superpower which spends over 800 Billion dollars a year on military and defence was outwitted by a few blokes with boxcutters.

I , like a vast number of people in the US and worldwide are not convinced by the official story of 911 and will never believe what we were told happened , happened that way. Over 3,000 innocent people went to their deaths that day and we owe it to them to find the truth of what actually happened.

Forget all the wild conspiracy theorys we just want to see an open and honest Inquiry that attempts to put to rest the many valid irregularities in the official story.


Hard to believe how quickly the time has passed.

I remember reading that Bush / his administration apparently was given no less than 7 warnings regarding 9/11 in the few months leading up to it - and only one of them was taken seriously - many officials involved in investigating these warnings and trying to get these briefs taken seriously by the Bush Administration - resigned when nothing was being done.

That's scary.