Trouble on the Estate (BBC1, 9pm)

[InOne]

Panorama special revealing what it's like to live and grow up on a Blackburn housing estate, where drugs, antisocial behaviour, family break-ups and joblessness are part of everyday life. Eight-year-old Oshi is desperate to see his father after a two-year absence. Jordan, 15, is threatening to leave his family home because of the trouble. And 20-year-old Jessie's behaviour frightens other residents and keeps landing him in prison. Richard Bilton meets these and other locals to offer a snapshot of `broken Britain'
Read more at http://www.tvguide.co.uk/detail.asp?id=133741202#oMiQCYDsWSUBZR0s.99

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[arista]

Yes BBC1HD 9PM Tonight

Panorama Special

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InOne ignore him

[Kizzy]

Really looking forward to this. Will it open anyones eyes?...lets see.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Why do you speak in your signature Arista

[InOne]

Really looking forward to this. Will it open anyones eyes?...lets see.

Can't see it being much different from what I witness on Estates and the docs I've seen before featuring them.

[arista]

Why do you speak in your signature Arista


I am above the Sig level,
It is turned off.


I do not need spam

Life Can Be Short

[fruit_cake]

sounds interesting

[Kizzy]

Can't see it being much different from what I witness on Estates and the docs I've seen before featuring them.

Well let's see, I hope it's not a new rightesque whip everyone up into a moral panic at the unraveling of the fabric of society type drivel too.
But then it's the BBC...

[InOne]

Well let's see, I hope it's not a new rightesque whip everyone up into a moral panic at the unraveling of the fabric of society type drivel too.
But then it's the BBC...

Looks like it could be, but then again I think it's concentrating on the underclass. Hopefully they're not trying paint them as working class

[arista]

On Now

[Harry!]

Watching it, it is so sad some people are in poor state. The government needs to support the less fortunate in society.

[Kizzy]

Looks like it could be, but then again I think it's concentrating on the underclass. Hopefully they're not trying paint them as working class

heaven forbid...

[InOne]

Hmmm, it was ok. Pretty much what I expected though. The whole doc seemed a bit choppy though, maybe should've done a few parts on it.

[arista]

Hmmm, it was ok. Pretty much what I expected though. The whole doc seemed a bit choppy though, maybe should've done a few parts on it.

In the papers this morning
they are saying the youth were told to put there hoods up
to look menacing etc.


BBC - Stop fecking things up.

[Kizzy]

It did look really manufactured and rehearsed, the kids knew exactly what to say and they probably picked the most stereotypical single mother they could find!
That would never happen in a real estate, a stranger with a southern accent loitering would be seen as police or a peado.
I really wanted it to be unbiased, but no... thinking about it I don't feel it was, i'm not being cynical here I truly believe it was to get folk behind the welfare reforms by showing the unemployed as feckless and criminal.

[InOne]

Yeah the drug dealing bit seemed really staged, the dealer was talking to him like he'd known him for years.

[fruit_cake]

will probably watch it later on iPlayer

[Kazanne]

I watched this and ,you just have to smile,these families claim they are hard done by and there they are with big TVs ,smoking,playstations,Tvs in bedrooms,electric motorbikes,and lots of 'big' parentsd so they are not starving,they probably also loive on takeaways,so who pays for all this stuff?Kudos to the ones who worked and tried to get by,but these kids need some disipline in their lives and fathers who are active in their lives,To live on an estate like that must be horrendous,they might claim "there is nothing to do" but is that really an excuse to act like a moron.

[Munchkins]

Mhm will watch this on bbc iplayer, after i catch up on the great british bakeoff :D

[arista]

['I don’t give a ******* what people think': Jobless mother-of-four who pockets £1,100 handouts on 'Shameless estate' claims BBC deliberately made her look worse in documentary]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2201847/Trouble-Estate-Residents-say-broadcaster-town-look-like-Shameless.html#ixzz26HRkuuw2


"Beeb accused of deliberately depicting many residents being terrorised by hooded yobs
Programme suggested the area is riddled with vandalism, drink and drug problems
The BBC insisted they have not 'sexed' up the documentary
Blackburn MP Jack Straw vows to complain to BBC about programme claiming it portrayed Shadsworth as 'uncharted part of Africa' "

[Kizzy]

['I don’t give a ******* what people think': Jobless mother-of-four who pockets £1,100 handouts on 'Shameless estate' claims BBC deliberately made her look worse in documentary]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2201847/Trouble-Estate-Residents-say-broadcaster-town-look-like-Shameless.html#ixzz26HRkuuw2


"Beeb accused of deliberately depicting many residents being terrorised by hooded yobs
Programme suggested the area is riddled with vandalism, drink and drug problems
The BBC insisted they have not 'sexed' up the documentary
Blackburn MP Jack Straw vows to complain to BBC about programme claiming it portrayed Shadsworth as 'uncharted part of Africa' "

The Beeb even timed it so it aired the day before the new series of shameless....nice touch...