US ambassador killed in Libya & The Middle East Riots [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

arista

12-09-2012, 11:15 AM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/12/article-2201780-14F9B74E000005DC-552_964x606.jpg
Reported dead: John Christopher Stevens, left, US ambassador to Libya

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2201780/American-killed-radical-Islamists-storm-U-S-Embassies-Cairo-Libya.html#ixzz26Fjm4PhR

American writer, director and producer
of anti-Islam film calls the religion 'a cancer'

He may have a Valid point
but this USA abassador did not need to be killed .

Link for Kizzy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/sep/12/libya-egypt-attacks-muhammad-film-live

lostalex

12-09-2012, 11:52 AM

Every time the Muslims react this way, they just help the islamophobes make their case. Absolutely disgusting reaction from the muslims. No respect for freedom of speech or freedom of expression at all.

arista

12-09-2012, 12:47 PM

MTVN

12-09-2012, 12:57 PM

And this is why it was stupid if us to rush into giving financial and military assistance to Libya's rebel militias

lostalex

12-09-2012, 01:01 PM

And this is why it was stupid if us to rush into giving financial and military assistance to Libya's rebel militias

yea, it woulda been so much better to just let Ghaddafi kill thousands of his own people, most of whom just wanted democracy, and weren't islamic militants.

Supporting democracy doesn't mean you support everything that those groups believe. This is a Muslim problem all across the arab world, not just about the arab spring. Remebber the koran burning? remember the muhammed cartoons? This has nothing to do with the Libyan revolution or the arab spring. This is about Muslims everywhere thinking that violence is an appropriate response to free speech and free art.

MTVN

12-09-2012, 01:15 PM

yea, it woulda been so much better to just let Ghaddafi kill thousands of his own people, most of whom just wanted democracy, and weren't islamic militants.

And what about Rebel atrocities, what about the 300 bodies found in the mass grave by Sirte, what about all the black migrants in Libya shot or arrested for being "mercenaries" with no proof. Plus there's the fact the Rebels were completely fragmented, we had no idea about the nature of the opposition and since Gaddafi's death Libya has been in chaos with competing militias roaming around refusing to give up their weapons

Plus everyone talked about the threat if Gaddafi bombing Benghazi, well what the hell did NATO do to Sirte?

http://static.skynetblogs.be/media/41699/2454970293.jpg

arista

12-09-2012, 01:16 PM

"most of whom just wanted democracy,"

Yes some said that.
But the leaders in charge have a mixture of muslim people
some want the old ways.

America and UK need to pull out of Libya
no more Ambassadors to be killed

MTVN

12-09-2012, 01:18 PM

No it's not a "Muslim problem" it's an extremist problem, strange how we never hear these stories from countries like Indonesia isn't it?

lostalex

12-09-2012, 01:45 PM

No it's not a "Muslim problem" it's an extremist problem, strange how we never hear these stories from countries like Indonesia isn't it?

umm, you don't remember the Bali bombing?

lostalex

12-09-2012, 01:48 PM

And what about Rebel atrocities, what about the 300 bodies found in the mass grave by Sirte, what about all the black migrants in Libya shot or arrested for being "mercenaries" with no proof. Plus there's the fact the Rebels were completely fragmented, we had no idea about the nature of the opposition and since Gaddafi's death Libya has been in chaos with competing militias roaming around refusing to give up their weapons

Plus everyone talked about the threat if Gaddafi bombing Benghazi, well what the hell did NATO do to Sirte?

http://static.skynetblogs.be/media/41699/2454970293.jpg

can you provide a before picture? how do we know it didn't look like that for the past 50 years? These conflicts have been going on for centuries, since before the UNited states was even a country. we're not even 240 years old you know.

MTVN

12-09-2012, 01:54 PM

Bin Laden was behind the Bali bombing I believe, Muslim country can be just as much victims of extremism as Western countries

And it obviously wasn't taken before, Sirte was a rich city which had had a lot of investment

armand.kay

12-09-2012, 06:44 PM

This is about Muslims everywhere thinking that violence is an appropriate response to free speech and free art.
What exactly are you trying to say. :suspect:

Shaun

12-09-2012, 07:03 PM

can you provide a before picture? how do we know it didn't look like that for the past 50 years?

oh wow

InOne

12-09-2012, 07:04 PM

Religion of peace :pipe:

lostalex

12-09-2012, 07:22 PM

What exactly are you trying to say. :suspect:

That Muslims seem to think that some idiot making a film in his basement, or drawing a cartoon is more offensive to God than MURDERING people. That's what i'm saying, and that's a huge problem.

This isn't just a few nut jobs, these are crowds of thousands of people all around the muslim world. So no one can use the excuse "well it's not all muslims, it's just a tiny minority" those crowds were not just a few Muslim nut jobs, they were huge masses of Muslims. And this isn't an isolated incident, it happens over and over and over again whenever they get "offended".

It's insanity and it's a very serious problem within the Muslim culture.

If everytime the Christians in the US and western Europe rose up and behaved like this any time something offensive about Christians was said, can you imagine it? i can't, because it's so ridiculous.

Why is it only Muslims that react this way? It must be something cultural, and it's not okay.

armand.kay

12-09-2012, 07:46 PM

That Muslims seem to think that some idiot making a film in his basement, or drawing a cartoon is more offensive to God than MURDERING people. That's what i'm saying, and that's a huge problem.

This isn't just a few nut jobs, these are crowds of thousands of people all around the muslim world. So no one can use the excuse "well it's not all muslims, it's just a tiny minority" those crowds were not just a few Muslim nut jobs, they were huge masses of Muslims. And this isn't an isolated incident, it happens over and over and over again whenever they get "offended".

It's insanity and it's a very serious problem within the Muslim culture.

If everytime the Christians in the US and western Europe rose up and behaved like this any time something offensive about Christians was said, can you imagine it? i can't, because it's so ridiculous.

Why is it only Muslims that react this way? It must be something cultural, and it's not okay.
It doesn't matter if its 1 muslim or 1,000 muslims you can't just blame the whole entire religion. I literally know like 50 muslims who are ashamed by the actions of the extremist. My sep father is muslim he works as a journalist for the bbc so I don't really think he is against freedom of speech :idc:.

Wildcat!

12-09-2012, 07:59 PM

lostalex

12-09-2012, 09:41 PM

MTVN, I commend you on this thread. People need to realize, less than 5% of muslim, are belligerent, and would act violently, because they feel offended, or disrespected. Most will be offended, but shrug it off. The people that caused, know that there are that small percentage which will use it as an excuse to excercise their belligerent ways.

Why would you provoke these people at a time of unrest like right now? You putting innocent bystandards, in danger.
Its not about freedom of sppeech! I think you should always think of the impact, on others, not just you.
Anyone that does these kind of provocation, know exactly the impact, and are probably relishing in the chaos. Not outraged by the innocents, who got killed.

5% out of millions is A LOT of people though.

it is absolutely about freedom of speech. You don't have the right or the excuse to kill someone just because they say something offensive! No one should have to be afraid of being killed just for their speech or their ideas.

You should judge people based on what they DO, not what they say or think.

Speech and thought should never be illegal, no matter how offensive. and it's NEVER justified to take VIOLENT actions based on being offended.

Shaun

12-09-2012, 11:40 PM

Religion of peace :pipe:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma9ee97ODx1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg

Libyans in Benghazi took to the streets today to make it clear they do not condone the attack by militants on the U.S. consulate that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

Their signs were full of apology and support: ”Benghazi is against terrorism”; “Chris Stevens was a friend to all Libyans”; and ”No No No to Al Qaeda.”

Mohammed Magarief, Libya’s interim leader, said that the National Congress and the transitional government “condemn the criminal aggression,” and will make sure justice is served.

King Gizzard

12-09-2012, 11:46 PM

Yeah those pictures are doing the rounds, these would never get in the news

http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI

GypsyGoth

12-09-2012, 11:47 PM

I bet Denis Leary will play him in a movie.

mrlecturer

12-09-2012, 11:55 PM

No it's not a "Muslim problem" it's an extremist problem, strange how we never hear these stories from countries like Indonesia isn't it?

finally some logic. Cheers MTVN.

it's so easy to play the 'let's find a scapegoat' game, the scapegoats always being Muslims. Look at the two shooting incidents that happened in the US this summer.

lostalex

13-09-2012, 12:24 AM

finally some logic. Cheers MTVN.

it's so easy to play the 'let's find a scapegoat' game, the scapegoats always being Muslims. Look at the two shooting incidents that happened in the US this summer.

Muslims are usually the Scapegoats?? LOL i think you'll find that it's usually the US that is the scapegoat, as your post and today's events prove.

Vicky.

13-09-2012, 01:33 AM

Yeah those pictures are doing the rounds, these would never get in the news

http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI

Yeah, shame really as it might deter those who seem to think every muslim is the same, or say things like 'if they dont agree with what happened, why not protest' etc etc

mrlecturer

13-09-2012, 01:48 AM

Yeah, shame really as it might deter those who seem to think every muslim is the same, or say things like 'if they dont agree with what happened, why not protest' etc etc

Yeah those pictures are doing the rounds, these would never get in the news

http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI

This.

Wildcat!

13-09-2012, 01:52 AM

Yeah, shame really as it might deter those who seem to think every muslim is the same, or say things like 'if they dont agree with what happened, why not protest' etc etc

Thank you! Iam muslim, and I have no interest in making some public denouncing declaration, as shouldnt anyone. Thats all political BS. I see them as despicable human beings for killing in the name of being offended, by some documentary. made by 1 of 7 billion people!.
But I will point the finger, to those who deliberately provoked them. Just as scum.

Wildcat!

13-09-2012, 02:02 AM

Muslims are usually the Scapegoats?? LOL i think you'll find that it's usually the US that is the scapegoat, as your post and today's events prove.

I will agree on that! Americans, are a lot of times the scapegoat. People with an agenda, know, they make the biggest impact, going after innocent americans. And that sucks, because they are probably, the most religiously tolerant nation, in the world. I lived there, I know that for a fact.

arista

13-09-2012, 07:31 AM

In America
Barack is saying it was planned

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/9540082/US-ambassador-killed-in-Libya-investigators-probe-whether-Benghazi-assault-was-planned.html

MTVN

13-09-2012, 10:24 AM

The US Embassy in Yemen has been stormed as well now http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19584734

arista

13-09-2012, 10:32 AM

The US Embassy in Yemen has been stormed as well now http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19584734

Yes its spreading

And that YouTube Film
was put out via that American Pastor.
Film made by another nutter

Livia

13-09-2012, 01:17 PM

Yes its spreading

And that YouTube Film
was put out via that American Pastor.
Film made by another nutter

It's fundamentalists of all religions who are the bloody problem. Christian fundamentalists are as bad as anyone.

arista

13-09-2012, 06:09 PM

Ch4News just showed Yemen.

This all because that American Pastor posted on You Tube
a Film.

Barack could arrest him (the Pastor) and the Californian -Jew Sam B
that made this film, he has gone underground.

Then it could stop.

Debate on Ch4 News now

arista

13-09-2012, 06:15 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/13/article-2202606-14FE8938000005DC-861_964x646.jpg
The Yemen Embassy lotted

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/13/article-2202606-14FF01D3000005DC-735_964x568.jpg

Tomorrow More attacks
Ref Ch4News Live

MTVN

13-09-2012, 07:29 PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-murder-of-us-ambassador-christopher-stevens-proves-the-arab-spring-was-never-what-it-seemed-8130850.html

arista

14-09-2012, 03:12 PM

"British and German embassies
attacked by Sudanese rioters
as protest over anti-Islam film spreads
across the Muslim world
In scenes reminiscent of the violent clashes
that ravaged the Cairo's streets
during the Arab uprising last year,
thousands of protesters advance
on the US embassy near Tahrir Square
10,000 Muslims stage a noisy protest
in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka,
burning and trampling American flags
while chanting anti-US slogans
Reports: Hundreds of protesters
set fire to a branch of
Kentucky Fried Chicken,
chanting, 'No More insults to Islam'
Egypt's president Mohamed Morsi Isa El-Ayyat appeals
for calm on live television,
a day after Barack Obama issued a veiled
warning to the region's leaders
to protect US embassies
The unrest has raised serious questions
over whether the US should cut the billions of dollars
# in aid it sends to Egypt
It follows unrest after September 11
attack on US Consulate in Benghazi,
Libya, killing ambassador and three other America"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2203129/U-S-embassies-Muslim-world-prepare-violence-Friday-prayers--traditional-Middle-East-time-protest.html#ixzz26SOCKGfC

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/14/article-2203129-1503A2D8000005DC-251_964x565.jpg
A Sudanese demonstrator burns a German flag

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/14/article-2203129-1502D9C1000005DC-221_470x423.jpg
Cairo protests over the YouTube so called USA film

In The Middle East
they Hate americans and now all nations that are with America.

Also a
KFC was burnt down

Flaming chicken: A Hardee's and a Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC) fast food outlet burns after protesters set the building on fire in Tripoli, northern Lebanon

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/14/article-2203129-15036D4F000005DC-229_964x556.jpg

No Chicken Wings or 3 Chicken and Fries tonight

MTVN

14-09-2012, 03:19 PM

Egypt's president Hosni Mubarak appeals for calm on live television, a day after Barack Obama issued a veiled warning to the region's leaders to protect US embassies

Umm..

arista

14-09-2012, 03:57 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Morsi

Yes MTVN
D.Mail has put the old name in
Error,

I corrected it on here.

arista

14-09-2012, 06:19 PM

Great Debate on Ch4News now
that Anti Islamic Film was shown in Eygpt
many have not even seen the 14mins YouTube Film.

The Middle East appears to not like America.

Harry!

14-09-2012, 06:21 PM

I have watched the flim on YouTube and I do agree that it is offensive to Muslims. It does insult the Prophet Muhammad (PBOH) with remarks against the Islamic tradition. But the way the Middle East and North Africa is unacceptable too. If you are offended you should write to the producer/government in asking for the video to be banned. Or held PEACEFUL protest. Violence and damage to buildings is wrong.

arista

14-09-2012, 06:32 PM

arista

14-09-2012, 09:32 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/14/article-0-15042861000005DC-329_634x515.jpg
Today in London

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/14/article-0-1504437C000005DC-588_634x423.jpg
Anger: The demonstrators shouted 'burn burn USA' as the American flag went up in flames, in response to a recent movie which portrayed the prophet Muhammad as a womanizer and child abuser

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2203381/Hate-preacher-Anjem-Choudary-leads-U-S-flag-burning-protest-outside-London-embassy-turmoil-Islam-film-hits-UK.html#ixzz26TxOMHlU

lostalex

15-09-2012, 07:04 AM

according to the guardian one of the slogans they chanted was "Obama, Obama, we are all Osama".

I believe them.

armand.kay

15-09-2012, 08:07 AM

So they find a film offensive yet see no problem in burning peoples buildings :bored:.
God imagine if they watched a episode of south park! :shocked:

Nedusa

15-09-2012, 08:34 AM

I watched this film on You Tube and agree it was totally offensive to Muslims in fact the film was basically a piece of blatant anti Muslim propaganda. It set out to discredit the prophet Mohammed by depicting him as a murdering , womanising , thieving bandit. It suggests the followers of Islam have the right to rape pillage and murder anyone who does not believe in what they believe. It states their beliefs are the only true beliefs and they are empowered to convert or kill ALL non believers.

This is pretty inciteful to all Muslims but to react the way we have seen by killing these Embassy workers almost reinforces the message in the film. Thankfully only a minority of extremists think violence is the answer, the majority of the worlds 1.3 Billion Muslims live in peace and happily coexist with people of all faiths.

arista

15-09-2012, 10:27 AM

The maker of that YouTube film in California
has been arrested on another matter.

SkyNewsHD

arista

15-09-2012, 10:29 AM

So they find a film offensive yet see no problem in burning peoples buildings :bored:.
God imagine if they watched a episode of south park! :shocked:

Also killing Americans, sadly

Yes South Park
not done in arabic.

lostalex

15-09-2012, 08:30 PM

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma9ee97ODx1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg

most libyans can't even read or write in their own language, but we are expected to believe that they can write such perfect english? give me a break. Obviously someone from the government handed out signs to those people as a media stunt trying to appease Americans.

get real. The Illiteracy rate in the muslim world is through the roof. Most muslim adults in the arab world have the educational level of an American 8 year old. The reason they use flags and effigies to burn is not because they appreciate symbolism, it's because most of them don't have enuf education to actually create signs and banners. They can't even write their own language. They are illiterate and uneducated.

We are dealing with people who literally have the education of 8 y/o's, but we keep being told that we should talk to them? that we should try to solve our differences? how do you solve major world issues when your dealing with adults with the intelligence of 8 year olds?

it's so frustrating. they say we need to start talking to them as equals, but they are NOT our equals. There is nothing equal about us.

MTVN

22-09-2012, 08:31 AM

There's been quite a big backlash in Benghazi over this and the militia presence in Libya, there were big protests yesterday and 4 people have been killed after police & protestors stormed the Islamist militia bases

most libyans can't even read or write in their own language, but we are expected to believe that they can write such perfect english? give me a break. Obviously someone from the government handed out signs to those people as a media stunt trying to appease Americans.

get real. The Illiteracy rate in the muslim world is through the roof. Most muslim adults in the arab world have the educational level of an American 8 year old. The reason they use flags and effigies to burn is not because they appreciate symbolism, it's because most of them don't have enuf education to actually create signs and banners. They can't even write their own language. They are illiterate and uneducated.

We are dealing with people who literally have the education of 8 y/o's, but we keep being told that we should talk to them? that we should try to solve our differences? how do you solve major world issues when your dealing with adults with the intelligence of 8 year olds?

it's so frustrating. they say we need to start talking to them as equals, but they are NOT our equals. There is nothing equal about us.

Oh dear, how ignorant can you be, Libya has one of the best literacy rates in the Arab world at 97.7%, they have a free education system even up to University level (unlike most Western countries) and it is compulsory for everyone to do at least 9 years of school