What Magical Power does he Have? (spoiler)

[Mokka]

Danielle, after being blindsided by Dan when he evicts Shane, threw the first HOH compitition to Dan. WHHHAAATTT!
Now, since Frank left I have been rooting for Dan to win the game b/c he is obviously the best player, but secretly I keep hoping someone will wise up to him. Apparently not.

Danielle has no chance of winning the money now b/c for all she did for herself in the game, Dan gets all the credit as the puppet master.

Yeah, he'll take her to final two now, but she is not going home with the grand prize, unless its for being naive.

[BBfanUSA]

I hope that Dan doesn't win. Production must pay for BB13 their punishment is another crappy winner for them. Ian, this time the superfans win the show

[karl100589]

Danielle, after being blindsided by Dan when he evicts Shane, threw the first HOH compitition to Dan. WHHHAAATTT!
Now, since Frank left I have been rooting for Dan to win the game b/c he is obviously the best player, but secretly I keep hoping someone will wise up to him. Apparently not.

Danielle has no chance of winning the money now b/c for all she did for herself in the game, Dan gets all the credit as the puppet master.

Yeah, he'll take her to final two now, but she is not going home with the grand prize, unless its for being naive.

Dan is going to be facing an extremely bitter jury though, and I can imagine them voting against him out of spite.

Ashley: Dani (Ashley will do whatever Frank does, and Frank is a staunch anti-Dan vote)
Brit: Dan
Frank: Dani
Joe: Dani (He hated Dan)
Jenn: Dan
Shane: Dani
Ian: Dan
Dani wins 4-3. Dan's only hope is that Joe votes based on gameplay and Britney works on Ash to convince her to switch her vote, she and Brit seemed close in the jury house.

An Ian vs Dan finale is a no contest, Ian wins easily.

[Donovan.]

I would think that Danielle has Jenn, Britney, and Shane's vote for sure if she makes the final. All she needs is one bitter vote against Ian or Dan and she's half a million richer. So I would say that against Dan she has a pretty good chance at winning.

[Bluerang1]

I would think that Danielle has Jenn, Britney, and Shane's vote for sure if she makes the final. All she needs is one bitter vote against Ian or Dan and she's half a million richer. So I would say that against Dan she has a pretty good chance at winning.

You're giving me hope, stop it.

[Razor]

Dan has to win this, he has been the best player by far.

[Roy Mars III]

Dan has to win this, he has been the best player by far.

yea.

[Roy Mars III]

You're giving me hope, stop it.

what :joker:

[reece(:]

It's not a magical power, just they're all dumbasses.

[Callum]

Dan has to win this, he has been the best player by far.

Completely agree. Without him and Britney this season would have been so dull.

[SoBig]

It's not a magical power, just they're all dumbasses.
Were Janelle and Boogie dumbasses too? Dan is just that good.

[reece(:]

Janelle has one of the worst social games ever.

[SoBig]

Janelle has one of the worst social games ever.
You don't play 12 people without being good. Dan is very good at what he does. He has done this with two separate casts now.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Janelle has one of the worst social games ever.

Her social game has improved strides since BB6. But she's still a primarily physical player. No real strategic sense.

[lostalex]

I'm sick of talking about strategy and games. I just like who i like. and i like BRITNEY!

[mkbb]

You don't play 12 people without being good. Dan is very good at what he does. He has done this with two separate casts now.

In my eyes he is the best player ever to be on Big Brother. Dr Will has lost his title.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm sick of talking about strategy and games. I just like who i like. and i like BRITNEY!

eek.

[JTM45]

Some of you people are giving Dan far more credit than he deserves!
All he's done is been a very convincing liar to mostly less than brilliant people.

In Big Brother one of the most important things can be finding fellow competitors who you can trust and work with and when someone is willing to promise and swear on their family members and the bible (seems like a lot of Americans believe the bible/God is for real :hugesmile:) then honest people tend to want to believe them.

Congratulations for excelling in the lying department Dan. Such a fantastic talent for a coach of young children to possess!:nono:

Dan, Dan the lying man! :joker:

[mkbb]

Some of you people are giving Dan far more credit than he deserves!
All he's done is been a very convincing liar to mostly less than brilliant people.

In Big Brother one of the most important things can be finding fellow competitors who you can trust and work with and when someone is willing to promise and swear on their family members and the bible (seems like a lot of Americans believe the bible/God is for real :hugesmile:) then honest people tend to want to believe them.

Congratulations for excelling in the lying department Dan. Such a fantastic talent for a coach of young children to possess!:nono:

Dan, Dan the lying man! :joker:

But he did that last time remaining loyal to one person. This year his strategy has been to tell a large number of people: Ian, Danielle, Jenn and Frank (and to an extent Shane) that they are this person he will protect and take to the final two when in reality he will stab them in the back as soon as he can. The houseguests feel for it because they used how Dan played last time to work out how to trust him. The funeral and last weeks blindside were huge moves which will go down in BB history and most importantly helped Dans game. I think he is getting all the credit he deserves. And if its liars you don't like then you must hate the final 3. Ian lied to Frank and Boogie for weeks and Danielle doesnt say anything if it is the truth.

[SoBig]

Some of you people are giving Dan far more credit than he deserves!
All he's done is been a very convincing liar to mostly less than brilliant people.

In Big Brother one of the most important things can be finding fellow competitors who you can trust and work with and when someone is willing to promise and swear on their family members and the bible (seems like a lot of Americans believe the bible/God is for real :hugesmile:) then honest people tend to want to believe them.

Congratulations for excelling in the lying department Dan. Such a fantastic talent for a coach of young children to possess!:nono:

Dan, Dan the lying man! :joker:
:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

Man, I need to update my ignore list.

[SoBig]

But he did that last time remaining loyal to one person. This year his strategy has been to tell a large number of people: Ian, Danielle, Jenn and Frank (and to an extent Shane) that they are this person he will protect and take to the final two when in reality he will stab them in the back as soon as he can. The houseguests feel for it because they used how Dan played last time to work out how to trust him. The funeral and last weeks blindside were huge moves which will go down in BB history and most importantly helped Dans game. I think he is getting all the credit he deserves. And if its liars you don't like then you must hate the final 3. Ian lied to Frank and Boogie for weeks and Danielle doesnt say anything if it is the truth.
Don't even bother. Dan sucks. Didn't you hear?

[SoBig]

In my eyes he is the best player ever to be on Big Brother. Dr Will has lost his title.
I always had Dan as the best, but now it should be obvious to everyone that watches BB. His resume speaks for itself. No one's even comes close to his.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181103

[Marc]

I can't believe BB contestants have turned into idiots like the Survivor contestants.

[Roy Mars III]

In my eyes he is the best player ever to be on Big Brother. Dr Will has lost his title.

Dr. Will is still better. Dan is a more close second now though

[SoBig]

I can't believe BB contestants have turned into idiots like the Survivor contestants.
Dan is better.

Won on a 7-0 vote.

Made it to the finals the both times he played.

Had 3 different people use the veto on him.

No one has EVER cast a vote against him.

Dan can kill you in more ways than Will can.

Both Will and Dan are very good manipulators, but Dan can actually win comps and he can adapt to any situation. Dan is also a better strategist. Will is more entertaining, but he is not better.

[SoBig]

I can't believe BB contestants have turned into idiots like the Survivor contestants.
Its sad. Even before the funeral happened. Joe, Shane etc were saying that they would never vote for him no matter how well he played, because he won the game before.

[Marc]

That's what I mean SoBig, the OTHER contestants really need to just slay him. It's like B Rob all over again

[Marc]

Oh... I believe you misquoted me there and actually meant to quote Roy Mars

[SoBig]

Oh... I believe you misquoted me there and actually meant to quote Roy Mars
Oh I thought you were talking about bitter juries.

[Roy Mars III]

Dan is better.

Won on a 7-0 vote.

Made it to the finals the both times he played.

Had 3 different people use the veto on him.

No one has EVER cast a vote against him.

Dan can kill you in more ways than Will can.

Both Will and Dan are very good manipulators, but Dan can actually win comps and he can adapt to any situation. Dan is also a better strategist. Will is more entertaining, but he is not better.

I see your point. Dan's best quality as a player, I think, is being able to read situations and know when to strike. And he is probably better at the pure strategy than Will, Will actually plays very emotionly which can lead him to making some odd choices during the game that seem more personal than game related. Dan does not really have this problem.

That being said, Dr. Will is the godfather of this game and his lies an manipulation are better than anything Dan could do. Dan would never have won season ten without using strategy and ideas Dr. Will used. The whole 'Im a weak player in this game' is pure BB2 Will. I would argue that Will played against better players in 2 than Dan played in 10 and 13 as well.

Dr. Will could make the worst bull**** sound like gold. He could lie and manipulate but still be liked by everyone in the house. Will would have played the same way as Dan this season and still end up being liked by the other housemates and that is one thing Dan can not

[JTM45]

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

Man, I need to update my ignore list.

Yeah, 'cause when someone's opinion differs from your own it's always best to pretend they don't exist. That way, in your own secluded little world, you can never be wrong.

I think you're missing the whole point of a 'discussion forum'.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Oh I thought you were talking about bitter juries.

There's nothing wrong with a bitter jury, it's something you have to consider as a player because the jury just as easily vote against someone as they'll vote for someone. It's not unfair because it's all reactionary to what happened to them during the game.

[SoBig]

That being said, Dr. Will is the godfather of this game and his lies an manipulation are better than anything Dan could do. Dan would never have won season ten without using strategy and ideas Dr. Will used. The whole 'Im a weak player in this game' is pure BB2 Will. I would argue that Will played against better players in 2 than Dan played in 10 and 13 as well.

Michael Jordan patterned his game after David Thompson and Dr. J's. Are they better than him, because they came before him too?

I strongly disagree that BB2 had better players. The game was new in BB2. Hardly anyone knew how to play it. Nicole and Hardy were the only good players outside of Will. Hardy was no better than Shane and Frank. Nicole was no better than Ian.

Dan played a completely different game this time. He couldn't play "I'm a weak player in this game" card this time. He played "I'm dangerous and its better to be play with me, than against me" card and it worked.



Dr. Will could make the worst bull**** sound like gold. He could lie and manipulate but still be liked by everyone in the house. Will would have played the same way as Dan this season and still end up being liked by the other housemates and that is one thing Dan can not
Everyone hated Will in BB2. That's why he was on the block every single week. The jury HATED Dan in BB10 and he still won on a 7-0 vote.

Will never pulled off anything as epic as the Funeral.

[SoBig]

Yeah, 'cause when someone's opinion differs from your own it's always best to pretend they don't exist. That way, in your own secluded little world, you can never be wrong.

I think you're missing the whole point of a 'discussion forum'.
Aren't you the same one that said the funeral was scripted, because the producers came up with it? Even though everyone that watched the feeds know that wasn't the case?

Yeah, I'm going to take what you say seriously.... :joker:

[LemonJam]

I think I'll make my mind up about the Dan vs Will argument when the seasons over and we see how the jury votes. I think they both had tougher competition in their original seasons tbh because in 7 and 14, the majority houseguests seem to just roll over for them.

The thing about the BB2 final that people forget is that Monica would've won had she made the final 2, no question about it. Really makes you wonder if Will would still be considered the great player he is today or just a season villain. I'd also consider the fact Dan essentially got 3 weeks of immunity handed to him at the beginning.

Technically speaking though, Dan is probably the better player as he has the better track record.

[SoBig]

I think I'll make my mind up about the Dan vs Will argument when the seasons over and we see how the jury votes. I think they both had tougher competition in their original seasons tbh because in 7 and 14, the majority houseguests seem to just roll over for them.

The thing about the BB2 final that people forget is that Monica would've won had she made the final 2, no question about it. Really makes you wonder if Will would still be considered the great player he is today or just a season villain. I'd also consider the fact Dan essentially got 3 weeks of immunity handed to him at the beginning.

Technically speaking though, Dan is probably the better player as he has the better track record.
A few things. There was 12 players in BB2 and 13 in BB7. When the reset button was hit there was 12 players. So Dan entered the game with the same number of players that the typical BB seasons have.

Dan lost two players in week 1. He could have been evicted in week 2 or in week 3.

[LemonJam]

oh yeah i didn't think of that lawl.

[Macie Lightfoot]

The Will/Dan debate is kind of pointless because Will's game in BB2 was completely different since there was no PoV.