Guilty 5 years :15 year old Girl went to France with her 30 year old Maths teacher

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/23/article-2207064-1529BA2F000005DC-137_634x489.jpg
the 30 year old teacher not with the girl.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/23/article-2207064-1528F88B000005DC-58_306x423.jpg
The 15 year old Girl.


Whats this Love?
Lust?
or Illegal?


"Schoolgirl, 15, flees to France on a ferry with with her male maths TEACHER, 30, as her desperate parents beg for her to return home
Police believe Megan Stammers is with Jeremy Forrest, from East Sussex
He is a maths teacher at the teenager's school in Eastbourne
Pair were caught on camera as they drove onto a ferry at Dover"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2207064/Megan-Stammers-Fathers-desperate-plea-schoolgirl-15-fled-France-man.html#ixzz27JHZOtvt

[Pyramid*]

Given that she is 15 and underage - can he not be done for kidnapping - or something of a similar ilk?

Either way: it's not right - and I don't care 'how mature' she appears to be: the fact that she has run away - tells you she isn't.

[thesheriff443]

its not the first and wont be the last.

[arista]

Given that she is 15 and underage - can he not be done for kidnapping - or something of a similar ilk?

Either way: it's not right - and I don't care 'how mature' she appears to be: the fact that she has run away - tells you she isn't.


She went out of her Love for him.
Head strong Madam of 15.



But what the Hell is a 30 year old Teacher
going on the Run - thats what stinks,
is he on the run as he Loves her or Loves Bonking her
in a Lust.

[Shaun]

She needs a good spanking ..... :evilgrin:

...

[arista]

She needs a good spanking ..... :evilgrin:

Thats the Mothers Job
but as she is 15 maybe she can deck her mum.

[arista]

Speak Shaun


Is it Love or Lust

[Pyramid*]

She went out of her Love for him.
Head strong Madam of 15.



But what the Hell is a 30 year old Teacher
going on the Run - thats what stinks,
is he on the run as he Loves her or Loves Bonking her
in a Lust.


Doubt it's love: chances are it's the typical schoolgirl crush - daft lassie heart ruling head - we've all been there!! Well..the females. On his part..... most probably lust.

But yes: he should know better, he's the adult (and techincally...he'll be classed as a paedophile will be not? I'm not sure?.... )

Still a bad move all round - as for her poor parents; he's not being very responsible there is he - putting them through all this worry and distress.

[Me. I Am Salman]

why haven't they arrested the goon D;

[Redway]

She needs a good spanking ..... :evilgrin:

No.

[arista]

why haven't they arrested the goon D;


It takes time to find them
now they are in France.

[Pyramid*]

It takes time to find them
now they are in France.


and seeking a hypermarket which sells razors, hairdressing scissors and hair dye.

[arista]

and seeking a hypermarket which sells razors, hairdressing scissors and hair dye.

Yes

She has 2 Hair Colors


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/23/article-2207064-1524C904000005DC-966_306x423.jpg

[joeysteele]

In the usual sense of things the fifteen year gap is not that big an issue except for the fact she is at 15 still under the legal age for sex.
He has also and will likely be punished for it, no matter what the girl says and wants because he has abused a position of trust.

Had she been 17 and him 32, the issue would not have been such a big one,she would have likely been left school then too.
I have a good few relatives where over 12 years difference exists in their relationships and marriages.

[Mystic Mock]

She needs a good spanking ..... :evilgrin:

:laugh3:

Anyway she's a silly girl and his a lustful twat that will get bored of her once she reaches 18 years of age.

[fruit_cake]

what can you say, other than that most of these types of relationships don't work out. Could this be the one that finally does? Who knows, but the person with most to lose appears to be the man as he could be convicted of sexual relations with a minor and no doubt lose his job. The parents of the girl clearly want her home from what it says in the report.

[Josy]

She needs a good spanking ..... :evilgrin:

What a weird thing to say, she's 15 years old...

And he should be arrested.

[arista]

Yes he should be Punished
he is a Fecking Teacher.

[fruit_cake]

he is rather dashing, in his favour

[Mystic Mock]

he is rather dashing, in his favour

:joker:

[GypsyGoth]

They should send a message to these teachers that it's not ok to seduce their impressionable students.

He should be imprisoned and sued.

[Mystic Mock]

They should send a message to these teachers that it's not ok to seduce their impressionable students.

He should be imprisoned and sued.

They probably did and he chose not to listen.

[Kizzy]

If they are soooo in love why not wait a few moths to elope and avoid prosecution?
It's very odd, I hope she is ok :(

[Tom4784]

Dirty bastard.

[Mystic Mock]

If they are soooo in love why not wait a few moths to elope and avoid prosecution?
It's very odd, I hope she is ok :(

Those bastards.:mad:

[Munchkins]

I had the biggest crush on my maths teacher..
total dreamboat
He was only 25 though, so not as bad :laugh:

[Kizzy]

Those bastards.:mad:

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/online/exhibitions/romance/graphics/large/4_romantic_moths.jpg

I caught the evil moths and stuck pins in them.....muhahahahahaha

[Pyramid*]

I had the biggest crush on my maths teacher..
total dreamboat
He was only 25 though, so not as bad :laugh:


Mine was my English teacher. I was heartbroken when it got out that he and the very stunning geography teacher were an item. :joker:

Apart from her being a silly lassie, and him being .... well a complete moron as well as other things: it's the parents I feel for. They must be frantic with worry.

[Kizzy]

I had the biggest crush on my maths teacher..
total dreamboat
He was only 25 though, so not as bad :laugh:

Our metalwork teacher used to rub your bum as he 'helped' you on a machine...But it was the 80's so nobody cared, and he was about 50 so nobody ran off with him :joker:

[michael21]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/783780/thumbs/a-MEGAN-STAMMERS-640x468.jpg?6

i hope there find her save and well as for the teacher they should cut of his balls

[CaraRawr]

that's so messed up

[Mystic Mock]

Am I the only person on here that never had a crush on a Teacher?

[Munchkins]

Our metalwork teacher used to rub your bum as he 'helped' you on a machine...But it was the 80's so nobody cared, and he was about 50 so nobody ran off with him :joker:

Oh lord!
reminds me of an Art teacher at my school who got fired, for constantly dropping equipment, to look up girls skirts, and leaning over them and looking down there shirt!

[joeysteele]

Am I the only person on here that never had a crush on a Teacher?

Can't say I ever had any crush on any of mine either.

[Mystic Mock]

Oh lord!
reminds me of an Art teacher at my school who got fired, for constantly dropping equipment, to look up girls skirts, and leaning over them and looking down there shirt!

And I thought that I could be perverted.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Can't say I ever had any crush on any of mine either.

I think it was because they was all a bit annoying at my School tbh.:joker:

[Sam:)]

I've never had a crush on a teacher, I just have a few ****able ones.

[GypsyGoth]

I think it's normal to have a big crush on a teacher.

[Ninastar]

I think it's normal to have a big crush on a teacher.

but is it normal for the teacher to have a crush on the student? and act on it?

[Pyramid*]

but is it normal for the teacher to have a crush on the student? and act on it?

I wouldn't be surprised if many teachers did have a wee fancy for some of their pupils - as you say though: most don't tend to act on it.

Hell, who knows: they may live happily ever after and prove the majority wrong - but I think he (they) should have waited till she wasn't jail bait and acted a bit more maturely.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/9/23/194609/default/v1/daily-mirror-sep24-1-329x437.jpg

http://news.sky.com/story/988630/missing-megan-stammers-with-teacher


How long can he Run?

[Pyramid*]

This snippet from the article is so sad - it sounds as though he's trying to let her know that it doesn't matter, long as she's okay, they still love her all the same: as well as trying to indicate if it's not been 'her own choice' to go - that they are doing 'what they can'.

the guy needs to man up: if it's a love/lust thing and nothing more sinister: he needs to get a grip and put her parents out of their misery. He's meant to be the adult: meant to be the responsible one.




Appeals for information about her whereabouts have been posted on Facebook and Twitter (https://twitter.com/martinstammers), including from her worried father, Martin.
"Have to remain strong for Meg's, can't dwell in the misery of 'what ifs' - we love you sweetheart, doing all we can," he wrote.

[Mystic Mock]

I wouldn't be surprised if many teachers did have a wee fancy for some of their pupils - as you say though: most don't tend to act on it.

Hell, who knows: they may live happily ever after and prove the majority wrong - but I think he (they) should have waited till she wasn't jail bait and acted a bit more maturely.

Im gathering that the Teachers at my School didn't fancy me then as they always treated me like ****.:joker:

[GypsyGoth]

but is it normal for the teacher to have a crush on the student? and act on it?

This is what I posted earlier in the thread.

They should send a message to these teachers that it's not ok to seduce their impressionable students.

He should be imprisoned and sued.


I think it's really wrong and a betrayal of trust. People like him should not be teachers in the first place.

[Mystic Mock]

You can't stop them though as you can't just ask them are you a paedophile.

[Pyramid*]

Im gathering that the Teachers at my School didn't fancy me then as they always treated me like ****.:joker:

Ahhh....don't you be fooled by that JF ! Remember the old thing about boys pulling girls pigtails at school, pretending not to like them, when they were actually smitten: and the 'pulling pigtails and annoying the girl' was a ruse - it was a way of them getting the girls' attention ! :D

[Roy Mars III]

She is still young, and hasn't fully matured yet mentally. It is up to the teacher to actually be a decent human being and not purse anything like this.

[Mystic Mock]

Ahhh....don't you be fooled by that JF ! Remember the old thing about boys pulling girls pigtails at school, pretending not to like them, when they were actually smitten: and the 'pulling pigtails and annoying the girl' was a ruse - it was a way of them getting the girls' attention ! :D

:joker: I actually don't get people that do that as all your doing is making the girl hate you.

[Pyramid*]

This is what I posted earlier in the thread.




I think it's really wrong and a betrayal of trust. People like him should not be teachers in the first place.


Absolutely agree - though the only person who would be able to ascertain if this was something more sinisiter on his behalf, or if it's him suddenly letting his heart (or nether regions) rule his head - would be him.

But it's def wrong and serious betrayal of trust for the position he held. (it will be past tense now I'm sure).

[Mystic Mock]

She is still young, and hasn't fully matured yet mentally. It is up to the teacher to actually be a decent human being and not purse anything like this.

This.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

he is rather dashing, in his favour

[2]

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/9/23/194609/default/v1/daily-mirror-sep24-1-329x437.jpg

changed my mind now

[Mystic Mock]

The tags for this thread lol.

[bbfan1991]

I hope she is found soon, her family and friends must be so worried. As for her

Teacher shame on him for taking advantage of his position and my sympathy goes to his wife too, who is probably in shock at all of this.

[Marcus.]

I hope she is found soon, her family and friends must be so worried. As for her

Teacher shame on him for taking advantage of his position and my sympathy goes to his wife too, who is probably in shock at all of this.

here here

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19704965

Police searching for an East Sussex teenager thought to be in France with a teacher from her school say the pair failed to use their return tickets.

Megan Stammers, 15, from Eastbourne, is believed to have crossed the Channel with Jeremy Forrest, 30, a maths teacher at Bishop Bell C of E School.

Police said return tickets for Sunday night were booked but not used.

O-Oh ..... now it's getting serious ..... :eek:

[Mystic Mock]

What the hell is going on?

[arista]

What the hell is going on?

The Girl
told porkies
saying she would stay with a mate
but went to France with the 30 year old
YouTube Singer / Maths Teacher.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/24/article-2207064-1529153B000005DC-975_634x416.jpg


Are they in Italy?
No one knows

[arista]

changed my mind now


To WHAT?

[the truth]

hope shes ok.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/24/article-2207064-152F335C000005DC-465_636x386.jpg
The 15 year old
The 30 year old Peado
The Parents

[arista]

hope shes ok.

She told her mum
she is in Love


But he is Her Teacher
Now a Peado


Her Mum also said she went to many
Extra Maths lessons


Or should that be Sex Lessons

[Mystic Mock]

To WHAT?

About finding him attractive I think.

[arista]

About finding him attractive I think.



But its Fecking Illegal

[Mystic Mock]

But its Fecking Illegal

I know but it wasn't me that said it.:joker:

[arista]

I know but it wasn't me that said it.:joker:


Of Course Mock.

[Mystic Mock]

We have to feel the force Arista and hope for the best.

[arista]

That 15 year old could do a brief phone call
by doing nothing
it amounts to Peado on the Run.


1st news Item on SkyNewsHD
and BBC1 News


Also the School had been told
by other pupils about the teacher and her.
But can say no more.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/24/article-2207064-152DA007000005DC-837_634x123.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/24/article-2207064-152DA007000005DC-76_634x243.jpg
"Blog: Math teacher Jeremy Forrest's blog,
under the musicians chosen performing name Jeremy Ayre,
gave a worrying hint of what was unfolding at school"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2207064/Teacher-Jeremy-Forrest-aka-Jeremy-Ayre-run-France-schoolgirl-Megan-Stammers-15.html#ixzz27PToTpxD


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/9/24/194767/default/v1/mirror-new-1-329x437.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/9/24/194765/default/v1/express-new-1-329x437.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/9/24/194763/default/v1/telegraph-1-329x437.jpg

Some Tuesday Front Pages

[arista]

The reason they fled to France
was the school was onto them.


Report on ITV1HD Daybreak

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/9/24/194769/default/v1/mail-new-1-329x437.jpg

Claims the School knew of this 7 Months ago.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/24/article-0-152F5EBE000005DC-822_634x646.jpg
Missing since Thursday: Schoolgirl Megan Stammers, 15, fled to France with her 30-year-old maths teacher

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208130/Why-didnt-school-stop-Staff-knew-runaway-teacher-pupil-seven-months-ago.html#ixzz27SdwTb47

[CharlieO]

She has a bad nose

[CharlieO]

she probs loves his bad boy nature

[arista]

she probs loves his bad boy nature


Her mum says she is very Girly.


There is a Stink now
as the School should have stopped them Bonking,
months ago.

[Marcus.]

Her mum says she is very Girly.


There is a Stink now
as the School should have stopped them Bonking,
months ago.

Yes the should off niped it in the bud

[fruit_cake]

who are we to judge anyway, they seem happy enough

[arista]

who are we to judge anyway, they seem happy enough


You having a Laugh,


We have no Idea how Happy they are Now,


She is 15
so that makes him a Peado Teacher
In France its not on their News.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/25/article-2208130-15308DCE000005DC-876_308x185.jpg

[thesheriff443]

she is having sex loads of teenagers are doing it as i type
he is screwed!
its only the fact he is her teacher and she is under age that makes this wrong.

[fruit_cake]

She is 15
so that makes him a Peado Teacher
In France its not on their News.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/25/article-2208130-15308DCE000005DC-876_308x185.jpg

actually, a paedophile is somebody that is attracted to pre-pubescent children. He's not a paedophile at all.

[fruit_cake]

what Jeremy said

‘About a week ago I had a bit of a moral dilemma to deal with, both internally and externally.
‘And the over-riding question it left me with was this: “How do we, and how should we, define what is right or wrong, acceptable or unacceptable???”’

[the truth]

why on earth they couldnt have at least waited until she is 16 I dont know.

am I allowed to mention , she is stunningly pretty?

[Pyramid*]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19704965



O-Oh ..... now it's getting serious ..... :eek:

You having a Laugh,


We have no Idea how Happy they are Now,


She is 15
so that makes him a Peado Teacher

In France its not on their News.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/25/article-2208130-15308DCE000005DC-876_308x185.jpg


Very surprised if it's not on the French news: however given the internet, I doubt the pair of them are unaware of the hell and worry this is causing her parents - and of the police hunt going on.

Got to say, the longer that no contact is made to at least confirm that she is alive and well - the less hopeful I become that she's okay.

[Marc]

Silly mare

[arista]

"Very surprised if it's not on the French news"



Yes he is free to stay on the Run.
But that Girl would contact her Mother
He is stopping her

[Nedusa]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/23/article-2207064-1529BA2F000005DC-137_634x489.jpg
the 30 year old teacher not with the girl.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/23/article-2207064-1528F88B000005DC-58_306x423.jpg
The 15 year old Girl.


Whats this Love?
Lust?
or Illegal?


"Schoolgirl, 15, flees to France on a ferry with with her male maths TEACHER, 30, as her desperate parents beg for her to return home
Police believe Megan Stammers is with Jeremy Forrest, from East Sussex
He is a maths teacher at the teenager's school in Eastbourne
Pair were caught on camera as they drove onto a ferry at Dover"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2207064/Megan-Stammers-Fathers-desperate-plea-schoolgirl-15-fled-France-man.html#ixzz27JHZOtvt

Interesting if not uncommon story, clearly she is "in love" with her teacher, well we've all been there, shame he had to encourage her ardour and ultimately brainwash this young lady. But maybe he thinks he's in love as well, although I would bet its probably more lust than love.

Truth is they are both probably extremely happy as they embark on their doomed foreign adventure, like young loves dream. Only problem is he is 30 Married and the teacher who is morally charged with protecting young impressionable teenagers.

I would expect the novelty will quickly wear off as reality catches up and the more mundane issues of life start to creep back into view. With the money running out coupled with all the press attention I suspect they will realise their adventure will have to end and then its come back and face the music time.

No serious charges against him should result as he did not kidnap her and if they deny anything of a sexual nature took place I wonder what charges if any the British Police can bring. Unfortunately for him his career as a teacher is probably over as he will be sacked for gross misconduct and no education authority would touch him with a barge pole.

Hope it was all worth it.... was it it they say Marry in Haste ...Repent in leisure or for him Run of to France with a 15 Yr Pupil in haste.... End up divorced,publicly Villified,Unemployed and possibly on the Child Sex offenders register...in leisure...!!!!

[arista]

"Unemployed and possibly on the Child Sex offenders register."


He has his Musician gigs to do


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/24/article-2207064-1529153B000005DC-975_634x416.jpg

[MTVN]

actually, a paedophile is somebody that is attracted to pre-pubescent children. He's not a paedophile at all.

Does make him a nymphophile though

This story is like Lolita

[fruit_cake]

well I'm going to stick my 'neck on the line' and stick up for him. I think it's all terribly romantic

[Pyramid*]

My stomach just turned reading this. I also find it very weird that he'd use the phrase " kissing the curve in your clavicle" - something not sitting right with me that a medical term like that would be used romantically. I know that sounds bizarre, but it stands out like a sore thumb.

Grooming her is precisely what he's been doing.

Anyone else notice the resemblence between his wife (what the hell is she thinking?) - and the 15year old. Dark, big blue eyes, prominent nose, and what also looks like a hint of dimples in the wife's face?




Forrest also spent four months grooming his pupil Megan Stammers on Twitter - bombarding her with romantic messages.



In a frightening hint at what was to come, tweeting under his stage name, Jeremy Ayre, he wrote: 'Let's run away together.'



And in another he wrote: 'I wanna wake up naked next to you, kissing the curve in your clavicle'

[arista]

"Grooming her is precisely what he's been doing."

Bang On Right.

[Marc]

Eurghh

[arista]

who are we to judge anyway, they seem happy enough


You are in a Dream World



He Groomed Her
Wake Up.

[Pyramid*]

"Very surprised if it's not on the French news"



Yes he is free to stay on the Run.
But that Girl would contact her Mother
He is stopping her


That's the part I'm concerned about Arista.

Given her parents saying how loving she was: even if she and he are having a whale of a time living in some romantic fantasy mist - someone who gets on so well with their parents as we are led to believe she did - will be missing them, and knowing her parents will be at their wits end. She may be fearful of getting into bother and a lot of trouble: but as I said earlier: given the internet, given that UK papers are on stalls in streets all over Europe, I find it hard to believe that neither of them are aware the distress and worry being caused and that the parents have said "They don't care what she's done - just let them know she is ok".



The newspapers should be splashing the car registration all over the front pages in huge size - having it covered at the latter end of a story (as in the DM) isn't going to have the same effect.

[fruit_cake]

You are in a Dream World



He Groomed Her
Wake Up.

Whether or not I live in a 'dream world' is not the topic of this discussion, and certainly not acceptable behaviour according the forums rules.

I have no idea if he 'groomed' her or not. I merely view from a distance just as everybody else on this thread does and I am entitled to my opinion, just as everyone else in this thread is, whether it agrees with yours or not Arista. It is an 'opinion' not a fact, and I'm wide awake so no need to wake up either Mr

[arista]

Good you are awake.


Its on Loose Women now

[arista]

"Megan Stammers: Police knew about affair with teacher last week"

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02349/teacherpupil_2349237b.jpg

"It was claimed that 30 year old Forrest, (on the left)
a married amateur musician from Ringmer,
near Lewes, had been kept under investigation
and was expected to be suspended last Friday."


No wonder they ran off on Thursday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9565012/Megan-Stammers-police-knew-about-affair-with-teacher-last-week.html

http://news.sky.com/story/989184/missing-megan-concerns-were-raised-over-pair

[michael21]

"Megan Stammers: Police knew about affair with teacher last week"

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02349/teacherpupil_2349237b.jpg

"It was claimed that 30 year old Forrest, (on the left)
a married amateur musician from Ringmer,
near Lewes, had been kept under investigation
and was expected to be suspended last Friday."


No wonder they ran off on Thursday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9565012/Megan-Stammers-police-knew-about-affair-with-teacher-last-week.html

yes one day before Friday

[Livia]

She is a child in the eyes of the law and he, quite rightly, is going to end up on a register, jobless, unemployable and with his career in tatters. Hope she was worth it, it's going to be most the expensive ******* he's ever had.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

"Unemployed and possibly on the Child Sex offenders register."


He has his Musician gigs to do


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/24/article-2207064-1529153B000005DC-975_634x416.jpg

:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

who are we to judge anyway, they seem happy enough

Are you being serious?

[Mystic Mock]

why on earth they couldnt have at least waited until she is 16 I dont know.

am I allowed to mention , she is stunningly pretty?

I was thinking the same aswell but I wouldn't risk being classed as a paedophile and lose my career for her.:joker:

[Marcus.]

he is in deep doo doo when he come back

[fruit_cake]

Are you being serious?

I'm making a case for them, and why not?

[arista]

New Photos of the 2 of them
on the Ferry to France
were just shown on SkyNewsHD


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/9/25/194955/default/v1/sussex-police-cct-1-522x293.jpg

[Pyramid*]

I'm astounded that the school were aware of this way back in February yet chose not to inform the mother of their concerns - knowing that a relationship was blossoming - how the hell can that happen and be left for this amount of time.

Some heads need to roll on this one.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm making a case for them, and why not?

Because he has taken her from her family and is a paedophile as she is still underage.

[arista]

She is a child in the eyes of the law and he, quite rightly, is going to end up on a register, jobless, unemployable and with his career in tatters. Hope she was worth it, it's going to be most the expensive ******* he's ever had.




Bang on Right Livia

[Mystic Mock]

I'm astounded that the school were aware of this way back in February yet chose not to inform the mother of their concerns - knowing that a relationship was blossoming - how the hell can that happen and be left for this amount of time.

Some heads need to roll on this one.

Schools are **** and they like to defend there Teachers every step of the way.

[arista]

I'm astounded that the school were aware of this way back in February yet chose not to inform the mother of their concerns - knowing that a relationship was blossoming - how the hell can that happen and be left for this amount of time. Some heads need to roll on this one.


Yes and that same Church of England School
had another Teacher doing the same a year back
he was sacked.

[arista]

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His car


http://news.sky.com/story/989184/missing-megan-police-release-ferry-photo

[fruit_cake]

Because he has taken her from her family and is a paedophile as she is still underage.

well I'm just going to wait until I know the whole facts of the case before casting judgement there young Mock

and for the second time today, a Paedophile is somebody who's sexual orientation is toward pre-pubescent children, not this girl who clearly is post-pubescent.

look it up people.

[Pyramid*]

Yes and that same Church of England School
had another Teacher doing the same a year back
he was sacked.


Yes, so I'm reading on Sky.

Unbloody believeable.




In 2009, a teacher at Bishop Bell C of E School was jailed for seven years after grooming two pupils on social networking site Bebo.
Robert Healy, then aged 27, had sex three or four times with one teenage victim after taking her back to his father's house over a period of a fortnight.
Jailing him at Lewes Crown Court, Judge Charles Kemp said his "predatory" behaviour was a "grave breach of trust".

[Mystic Mock]

well I'm just going to wait until I know the whole facts of the case before casting judgement there young Mock

and for the second time today, a Paedophile is somebody who's sexual orientation is toward pre-pubescent children, not this girl who clearly is post-pubescent.

look it up people.

She's still underage though which definitely isn't normal behaviour.

[Pyramid*]

well I'm just going to wait until I know the whole facts of the case before casting judgement there young Mock

and for the second time today, a Paedophile is somebody who's sexual orientation is toward pre-pubescent children, not this girl who clearly is post-pubescent.

look it up people.

he was known to be involved with her as far back as February this year...... at which point she could only have been 14 - that's when people started to notice and be aware of what was going on - It could have been going on a lot longer: in which case, she may not have reached puberty therefore the term paedophile may indeed be correct.

Regardless of the terminology people are using: he is a sex offender. Of that there is no dubiety.

[fruit_cake]

he was known to be involved with her as far back as February this year...... at which point she could only have been 14 - that's when people started to notice and be aware of what was going on - It could have been going on a lot longer: in which case, she may not have reached puberty therefore the term paedophile may indeed be correct.

Regardless of the terminology people are using: he is a sex offender. Of that there is no dubiety.

well with the greatest of respect, I do not know if she is nearly 16 or has only just turned 15, and if anything the length of the affair (since at least as early as Feb) only adds weight to the argument that it could be real relationship and not the 'lust driven' affair others are making it out to be.

[Mystic Mock]

Once she reaches 18 he will have dumped her to go for another 15 year old, that's if The Police haven't caught him that is.

[arista]

"Regardless of the terminology people are using: he is a sex offender"

Very True Pyramid

[Marcus.]

Once she reaches 18 he will have dumped her to go for another 15 year old, that's if The Police haven't caught him that is.

he nedd to get caught

[Mystic Mock]

he nedd to get caught

I know but it's gonna be tough while the pair are in France.

[arista]

Debate was just on Ch4 news

The School is Guilty as well

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/9/25/194955/default/v1/sussex-police-cct-1-522x293.jpg

[Omah]

The pressure on the pair may now be so severe that a suicide pact may be the only way out for them ..... :suspect:

[Nedusa]

The pressure on the pair may now be so severe that a suicide pact may be the only way out for them ..... :suspect:

A modern day Romeo and Juliet....!!!

[fruit_cake]

The pressure on the pair may now be so severe that a suicide pact may be the only way out for them ..... :suspect:

if this happens this thread should be handed into the police as evidence :pipe:

[GypsyGoth]

if this happens this thread should be handed into the police as evidence :pipe:

:laugh2:

[Pyramid*]

well with the greatest of respect, I do not know if she is nearly 16 or has only just turned 15, and if anything the length of the affair (since at least as early as Feb) only adds weight to the argument that it could be real relationship and not the 'lust driven' affair others are making it out to be.

Oh don't get me wrong: I understand where you're coming from, 100% and there is no way any of us can say it's not a highly unlikely relationship that may prove us all wrong.

I'm more of the opinion that he will (most likely, imo) be getting his kicks from the fact that she is forbidden fruit, was then, and still is. I get the feeling that soon as she matures (emotionally and in age) that he won't quite get the same thrill and his ardour will dampen pdq.

I could be wrong: but any man in his 30's going into a relationship with a minor - a child - is missing something - she is (and was in Feb) a child - her own mother has said she is still very childlike.

I'm also pretty saddened that there seems to be no mention of the effect this must be having on his wife (not from you - in general). I feel so sorry for her as much as I do the girl's parents.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I'm astounded that the school were aware of this way back in February yet chose not to inform the mother of their concerns - knowing that a relationship was blossoming - how the hell can that happen and be left for this amount of time.

Some heads need to roll on this one.

I couldn't believe when I heard that today, that's totally out of order, that the parents weren't told of this.

[fruit_cake]

Oh don't get me wrong: I understand where you're coming from, 100% and there is no way any of us can say it's not a highly unlikely relationship that may prove us all wrong.

I'm more of the opinion that he will (most likely, imo) be getting his kicks from the fact that she is forbidden fruit, was then, and still is. I get the feeling that soon as she matures (emotionally and in age) that he won't quite get the same thrill and his ardour will dampen pdq.

I could be wrong: but any man in his 30's going into a relationship with a minor - a child - is missing something - she is (and was in Feb) a child - her own mother has said she is still very childlike.

I'm also pretty saddened that there seems to be no mention of the effect this must be having on his wife (not from you - in general). I feel so sorry for her as much as I do the girl's parents.

Her parent's describe her as very childlike, but yet she's clearly capable of running away to France and engaging in a relationship with a 30 year old man? Something's not quite right there imo.

Again I disagree with you here Pyr, I don't feel sorry for the parents at all. They said that she should come home and they aren't angry. What does she have to do to make them angry then? go on a shooting rampage? Maybe her 'running away' is actually a cry for adult attention and the teacher, contrary to being some sort of 'groomer' is actually an innocent pawn in the game.

[Pyramid*]

I couldn't believe when I heard that today, that's totally out of order, that the parents weren't told of this.

If the mother had been made aware, there is a good chance the fact that her daughter made a 'fuss' about looking in her the eye on the final Thursday night to tell her mum " I love you"... that would have set alarm bells ringing - or it may have.



Her parent's describe her as very childlike, but yet she's clearly capable of running away to France and engaging in a relationship with a 30 year old man? Something's not quite right there imo.

Again I disagree with you here Pyr, I don't feel sorry for the parents at all. They said that she should come home and they aren't angry. What does she have to do to make them angry then? go on a shooting rampage? Maybe her 'running away' is actually a cry for adult attention and the teacher, contrary to being some sort of 'groomer' is actually an innocent pawn in the game.

You don't feel sorry for the parents? well, that takes my breath away fruitcake - I'm not a parent and can only imagine the hell this is putting them through. I'm horrified that anyone could say they dont feel sorry for her parents.

Surely you don't need it spelled out to you that they are trying to get the message over to her that she isn't in trouble, that they are not going to be angry with her, that they still love her regardless: is to reinforce that she need not be scared to contact them: it's very natural that she (the girl) may be frightened / embarrassed / regretting what she's done and feeling terrible about how it's made her parents worry - and is scared to contact parents. I'll tell you something: I ran away from boarding school (twice) - once out of sheer devilment - and I was more scared of my parents reaction after I did: than I was of checking into a hostel in London on my todd and wandering about on jacksie. At the time of running away: my parents were the last thing on my mind: i wanted to do what I wanted to do: it was only when I realised that mum and dad were enlisting the help of all sorts of people to try to find me that the 'fear' set in of the bother I'd get into. It was only years later that I realised the utter hell I put my parents through - when I'd matured and realised just how much danger I put myself in.

Perhaps your idea is to put the fear of god into the lassie from her parents - as some way to get her to make contact - it's most certainly not my idea.

You're entitled to your opinion, and I take my hat off to you for the stance you are taking - but imo - it's a pretty cold hearted one.

[fruit_cake]

Well Pyr, I guess we all have subjective experiences and that we grow up with different stories to tell. I don't really like disclosing large amounts of information about myself on random forums but I grew up with distant and emotionally detached parents that I could have slit my wrists in front of them and it certainly felt like they probably wouldn't have noticed.

I, like this girl, couldn't really do any wrong in their eyes either. When I was fifteen I could take drugs, sleep around, disappear for days on end, frankly, do whatever whim took me from one day to the next. I know how empty that feels and although I never did most of those things to any excesses, I do remember it crossing my mind several times to run away, like yourself, when I was a teenager, in the hope that one day some adult figure might actually notice I existed and teach me how to look after myself. I also know as a teenager I would have been able to manipulate most people that were around at the time for those means, and a thirty-something horny teacher with his brain in his trousers would have been a very very easy target.

So, no I don't feel particularly sorry for the parents, and I have my reasons like anyone else does, which likewise are drawn from my own experiences just like anyone else.

At the end of the day though, we all make choices I suppose

[Pyramid*]

Well Pyr, I guess we all have subjective experiences and that we grow up with different stories to tell. I don't really like disclosing large amounts of information about myself on random forums but I grew up with distant and emotionally detached parents that I could have slit my wrists in front of them and it certainly felt like they probably wouldn't have noticed.

I, like this girl, couldn't really do any wrong in their eyes either. When I was fifteen I could take drugs, sleep around, disappear for days on end, frankly, do whatever whim took me from one day to the next. I know how empty that feels and although I never did most of those things to any excesses, I do remember it crossing my mind several times to run away when I was a teenager, in the hope that one day some adult figure might actually notice I existed and teach me how to look after myself. I also know as a teenager I would have been able to manipulate most people that were around at the time for those means, and a thirty-something horny teacher with his brain in his trousers would have been a very very easy target.

So, no I don't feel particularly sorry for the parents, and I have my reasons like anyone else does, which likewise are drawn from my own experiences just like anyone else.

At the end of the day though, we all make choices I suppose

I did too FC, given that majority of time, I lived either with my grandmother or at boarding school: it still didn't mean I wasn't brave enough (or rather... stupid enough!!) to 'do what I wanted to do' - then realised I'd made a serious fook up as I'd still have to face the music at some point - but that thought was overridden by the excitement of being a runaway and I have to say, the fact that I was in effect, sticking my two fingers up to my parents by saying "I'll do what I want" was the one of the main reasons I did it - coz I actually enjoyed the school!!

Yes, I understand we all have different reasons for how we view things and that comes from our own experiences if we've some correlation but this is one that we are going to agree to disagree on.

I have to say though: I have thought ... what if the parents made a statement/public appeal on the opposite side saying, "Look Megan, we're not angry at what you've done or who you are with: but we are getting bloody angry at you not letting us know how you okay, that you haven't let us know you are alive and well.... a phone call from a phone box is all we are asking now get your bloody arse into gear and at least do that and put us out of our misery"...... it has got me thinking.

Gut feeling in me still says it's still not the way to go.

Apart from anything: the teacher is the one bearing the responsibility - he's meant to be the adult in this 'relationship'. He's showing a hell of a lot of immaturity and selfishness - neither of which are commendable.

[fruit_cake]

I did too FC, given that majority of time, I lived either with my grandmother or at boarding school: it still didn't mean I wasn't brave enough (or rather... stupid enough!!) to 'do what I wanted to do' - then realised I'd made a serious fook up as I'd still have to face the music at some point - but that thought was overridden by the excitement of being a runaway and I have to say, the fact that I was in effect, sticking my two fingers up to my parents by saying "I'll do what I want" was the one of the main reasons I did it - coz I actually enjoyed the school!!

Yes, I understand we all have different reasons for how we view things and that comes from our own experiences if we've some correlation but this is one that we are going to agree to disagree on.

I have to say though: I have thought ... what if the parents made a statement/public appeal on the opposite side saying, "Look Megan, we're not angry at what you've done or who you are with: but we are getting bloody angry at you not letting us know how you okay, that you haven't let us know you are alive and well.... a phone call from a phone box is all we are asking now get your bloody arse into gear and at least do that and put us out of our misery"...... it has got me thinking.

Gut feeling in me still says it's still not the way to go.

Apart from anything: the teacher is the one bearing the responsibility - he's meant to be the adult in this 'relationship'. He's showing a hell of a lot of immaturity and selfishness - neither of which are commendable.

you've certainly come up with a very well thought out and considered responce there Pyr, I certainly hope now that's what the parents do it seems you've covered both the 'bases' there with the caring but also cold responce that we've been talking about. It also sounds like you had an interesting time in your youth that I will have to pick out of you at some other point :tongue:

[Pyramid*]

you've certainly come up with a very well thought out and considered responce there Pyr, I certainly hope now that's what the parents do it seems you've covered both the 'bases' there with the caring but also cold responce that we've been talking about. It also sounds like you had an interesting time in your youth that I will have to pick out of you at some other point :tongue:

I was a model child I will have you know. till I hit about 14 till about 19 - I used to joke that no wonder my granny had Angina ! (god I shouldn't laugh at that!).

Pick away anytime: my life aint been a boring one that's for sure.

However, we digress.

I'm more surprised that given the car, the reggie being banded about, photos etc: that they have not been spotted yet.

There's a lack of info regarding money for example: no mention of whether he lifted large amounts of cash in run up to France, meaning he wouldnt have to be using ATMs. If not, no mention of ATMs being used, CCTVs showing them being used, credit card usage etc, where (location wise) the message that was sent from her phone to say she'd arrived in France....... there's a distinct lack of info being given out and when that happens: there's usually a very good answer for it..... almost as though the authorities may be close and not wanting them to 'move on' before they get a chance to catch up with them...... or god forbid: the scenario Omah mentioned.

[the truth]

clealry this is a major concern, we hope she will be safe and well, and he will probably go to prison...however its hard to judge exactly until we know more...some relationships between adults and teenage girls have in fact lasted , jerry lee lewis married a 13 year old and they were married for 13 years with 2 children. its clearly a very dodgy area, quite how big a crime this is, is very much open to the details ....clearly his teaching career is over, his repuation in tatters and he will have this on his record for life. on the other hand if she is there on her own free will, perhaps they havent had sex. she may be desperately unhappy at home. so many are, who knows.. be interesting to see how this develops.

[Pyramid*]

clealry this is a major concern, we hope she will be safe and well, and he will probably go to prison...however its hard to judge exactly until we know more...some relationships between adults and teenage girls have in fact lasted , jerry lee lewis married a 13 year old and they were married for 13 years with 2 children. its clearly a very dodgy area, quite how big a crime this is, is very much open to the details ....clearly his teaching career is over, his repuation in tatters and he will have this on his record for life. on the other hand if she is there on her own free will, perhaps they havent had sex. she may be desperately unhappy at home. so many are, who knows.. be interesting to see how this develops.

Think the chances of prison time are about nil if our sentencing judges are anything to go by of late. She simply says she went of her own volition, had no sex, he did not force her, didn't try to control her, cared for her etc: threatens to kill herself etc: too many factors there that I think he'd not do time for this.

Ultimately - whether this may or may not work out / last is not what is important.

What is important, and is more telling: is the fact that no contact has been made - and any 30 year old intelligent man, will know and be very aware of the concern and worry this will have caused.

If anything has done them the most harm: it's the avoidance of contact - and the longer that goes on: the worse effect that will have on the entire situation.

[arista]

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Some of Tomorrows Papers

[fruit_cake]

It seems to me that the pressure now that is on top of their relationship will probably make it incredibly difficult anyway given that they are effectively on the run.

[Pyramid*]

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Some of Tomorrows Papers


I thought I'd read somewhere that the police were aware of this around the same time and the local Council authorities were but I couldn't find it again earlier when I was looking for it to post on here.

Teachers too bloody busy going on strike, and police too bloody arguing with men on bicycles ..... pfft. On a more serious note: it's a disgrace, and absolute bloody disgrace that teachers, the local Council authorites and police were all aware, didn't inform the parents: and still this happened.

[thesheriff443]

all i want to know is?
is she any good a maths.

[fruit_cake]

all i want to know is?
is she any good a maths.

well no doubt he's taught her to add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and multiply!!

[thesheriff443]

well no doubt he's taught her to add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and multiply!!
i love the devide the legs bit:joker:
i said six not sex.

[Omah]

The pressure on the pair may now be so severe that a suicide pact may be the only way out for them ..... :suspect:

A modern day Romeo and Juliet....!!!



There's a lack of info regarding money for example: no mention of whether he lifted large amounts of cash in run up to France, meaning he wouldnt have to be using ATMs. If not, no mention of ATMs being used, CCTVs showing them being used, credit card usage etc, where (location wise) the message that was sent from her phone to say she'd arrived in France....... there's a distinct lack of info being given out and when that happens: there's usually a very good answer for it..... almost as though the authorities may be close and not wanting them to 'move on' before they get a chance to catch up with them...... or god forbid: the scenario Omah mentioned.

It's a common scenario, too ..... and one that's been made into many films - "Bonnie and Clyde", "Badlands", "Thelma and Louise", etc.

[Mystic Mock]

Hopefully that won't happen though Omah.

[michael21]

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Some of Tomorrows Papers

it getting a bit creepy now post if she is found

[Pyramid*]

This addresses my earlier thoughts - they can't live without money - if he'd been planning this and stashing money away- he'd have to had £s exchanged to euros - and there would be a trace of that - but nothing mentioned about that aspect.



But there has not been a single sighting of the pair anywhere in France and no trace of them using their mobile phones or accessing cash machines, according to the French authorities.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208315/Megan-Stammers-First-pictures-released-runaway-schoolgirl-teacher-Jeremy-Forrest-board-ferry-France.html#ixzz27YkCJ4AD



Article states that other pupils parents are up in arms (as are Megans parents) that the school knew about this for so long - so too did the Council and the Police. If ever there's been a cockup of magnanimous proportions: it's got to be this considering how many people in authority were aware of this relationship, and in a position to have stopped this happening - but didn't.

Mother says if she'd been aware, there's no way she'd have allowed her extra 'maths' lessons. I'm sure she wouldn't have allowed her daughter to stay overnight with a 'friend' either that Thursday night without being able to check who she was staying with etc. As I said before, heads need to roll.

[Vanessa]

This addresses my earlier thoughts - they can't live without money - if he'd been planning this and stashing money away- he'd have to had £s exchanged to euros - and there would be a trace of that - but nothing mentioned about that aspect.



Article states that other pupils parents are up in arms (as are Megans parents) that the school knew about this for so long - so too did the Council and the Police. If ever there's been a cockup of magnanimous proportions: it's got to be this considering how many people in authority were aware of this relationship, and in a position to have stopped this happening - but didn't.

Mother says if she'd been aware, there's no way she'd have allowed her extra 'maths' lessons. I'm sure she wouldn't have allowed her daughter to stay overnight with a 'friend' either that Thursday night without being able to check who she was staying with etc. As I said before, heads need to roll.

That's really worrying! I hope they're ok! :eek:

[arista]

Someone in the Press
has said he can Flip?

Why say that

[Pyramid*]

Someone in the Press
has said he can Flip?

Why say that

My take is that anyone and everyone can 'flip' if under the right (or wrong!) conditions.

A married man who thinks it's a good idea to run away with a 15 year old and not ensure people who love/care for them know they are okay - isn't thinking straight and isn't being rational.

When people aren't being rational - all sorts can happen - and I'm really not getting a good feeling about this at all.

[Vanessa]

My take is that anyone and everyone can 'flip' if under the right (or wrong!) conditions.

A married man who thinks it's a good idea to run away with a 15 year old and not ensure people who love/care for them know they are okay - isn't thinking straight and isn't being rational.

When people aren't being rational - all sorts can happen - and I'm really not getting a good feeling about this at all.

Me neither! Especially if he's not thinking straight. They need to find them as soon as possible. :shocked:

[michael21]

Someone in the Press
has said he can Flip?

Why say that

try and forget about her there lots of missing teen in the UK your not going on about them some missing for years

[Pyramid*]

try and forget about her there lots of missing teen in the UK your not going on about them some missing for years

:bored:

You seem to forget one simple thing: this thread happens to be about this particular girl.

[michael21]

:bored:

You seem to forget one simple thing: this thread happens to be about this particular girl.

you are wrong its about 2 people or there would be no story silly Pyramid

[Pyramid*]

try and forget about her there lots of missing teen in the UK your not going on about them some missing for years


I'll let you figure out your own mistake in your own time.

Now, anything to say on the recent updates about the actual story, the missing girl, about the lack of responsibility shown by the guy, anything about the way the authorities handled this, how the mother and father feel, ....anything?

[fruit_cake]

maybe he has connections in France somewhere

[Vicky.]

I cant believe it got to this stage when the authorities/school knew about it beforehand. What the hell was the school thinking allowing him to continue teaching while investigations were going on :S

[arista]

But on Friday he was going to be sacked
so they ran off on thursday.


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Todays Mirror

[Vanessa]

But on Friday he was going to be sacked
so they ran off on thursday.


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Todays Mirror

This is very worrying. :bawling:

[arista]

"Megan Stammers and maths teacher 'could be in Spain'
Schoolgirl Megan Stammers and the married maths teacher with whom she eloped may have fled to Spain, it emerged today."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9570194/Megan-Stammers-and-maths-teacher-could-be-in-Spain.html


At around 3PM there is a Press Update
and his Dad is going public.

[Pyramid*]

Nice to see the French helping out their British counterparts.....

Teacher may not be 'violent or evil' -but from what his father is saying, he's not in the most stable of places and hasn't been for a long while........ as for them now getting married - doesn't that also make him a bigamist?

I can see his rap sheet becoming longer and longer .......



The French authorities have admitted that they are not actively looking for the pair, who are simply the subject of a missing persons inquiry. In France the age of consent is 15, so their relationship is not against the law.



Fears have been expressed for the mental state of Forrest, an amateur musician from Ringmer, near Lewes, whom family have described as vulnerable.

His father, Jim Forrest, who runs an IT business, defended his son, saying that he was not a “violent or evil” person.

But he added: “We have been worried about him for some time and noticed him going further downhill for more than – let's just say – a matter of months. He'd been in a bad state for a long time.

“So we don't understand why the school didn't step in and do anything. We are very disappointed.”



I've still have not a clue why her parents were kept in the dark about this: by the police / Council and the school - especially with the school having had previous history of the same only a few years ago. It's completely insane.

[bbfan1991]

A European Arrest Warrant has been issued for Jeremy Forrest, thought to be with missing teenager Megan Stammers- Crimewatch appeal tonight too!

I hope she is found safe soon, although there will be the mindset to her that she has not done nothing wrong even if it happens.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

'sick nirvana song'

wat

[Niamh.]

'sick nirvana song'

wat

I know, right? :nono:

[arista]

was Live on all Media
the Teachers Dad is there


Live in Lewes
he speaks now


After Each talk a french talker
then says it all in French,
But they may be in Spain.


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Tears: Mr Forrest and
his wife Julie - parents of
Jeremy Forrest - cried as he
said 'please, please get in contact'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208315/Megan-Stammers-First-pictures-released-runaway-schoolgirl-teacher-Jeremy-Forrest-board-ferry-France.html#ixzz27gSzjyrt

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/27/article-2208315-153C5714000005DC-106_306x423.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/27/article-2208315-153CA5E9000005DC-541_964x338.jpg

[Alf]

if there's grass on the pitch

[Nedusa]

A European Arrest Warrant has been issued for Jeremy Forrest, thought to be with missing teenager Megan Stammers- Crimewatch appeal tonight too!

I hope she is found safe soon, although there will be the mindset to her that she has not done nothing wrong even if it happens.

I wonder what the grounds of arrest are on this warrant ???

[Mystic Mock]

Can the Spanish Police get involved in this? afterall they are on there land now.

[Marcus.]

they need to find them

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/9/27/195412/default/v1/mirror-1-329x437.jpg
todays Mirror

And the Sun has a front page claiming
she is in Paris.

Thats going to cost. if true.

[Pyramid*]

I wonder what the grounds of arrest are on this warrant ???


A European Arrest Warrant has been issued for the 30-year-old, who would be detained on suspicion of abducting a minor.

As per the earlier link (Telegraph).

[Nedusa]

As per the earlier link (Telegraph).

I asked the question a few days ago what this guy would be arrested for and the answer above is probably what the police would use to arrest him in the first instance.

However upon return to the UK its possible he could face a list of charges ie:-

Grooming a minor
Abducting a minor
Sexual Molestation
Sex with a minor
Statutory rape (of a minor)

the last 3 would be hard to prove but overall I think he's in pretty deep.I just hope he doesn't do anything drastic....

[Pyramid*]

I asked the question a few days ago what this guy would be arrested for and the answer above is probably what the police would use to arrest him in the first instance.

However upon return to the UK its possible he could face a list of charges ie:-

Grooming a minor
Abducting a minor
Sexual Molestation
Sex with a minor
Statutory rape (of a minor)

the last 3 would be hard to prove but overall I think he's in pretty deep.I just hope he doesn't do anything drastic....

I think the longer it goes on, the longer his 'rap sheet' is going to be, so yep, they have a reason to arrest him, and if/when they do - I think some if not all of what you've listed could apply.

Given his father's fears that he may 'flip' - that's got alarm bells ringing. To me,that's indicative that he has 'flipped' before: and that his father knows the 'warning signs'.

How he flips and to what extent is the part I'd like to know....................... whatever or however - it's enough for his own father to announce that publically - and that tells me it's not a good sign.

[Munchkins]

I think the longer it goes on, the longer his 'rap sheet' is going to be, so yep, they have a reason to arrest him, and if/when they do - I think some if not all of what you've listed could apply.

Given his father's fears that he may 'flip' - that's got alarm bells ringing. To me,that's indicative that he has 'flipped' before: and that his father knows the 'warning signs'.

How he flips and to what extent is the part I'd like to know....................... whatever or however - it's enough for his own father to announce that publically - and that tells me it's not a good sign.

Yes, that's what im worried about..
what about if she decides she doesnt want this anymore, and tries to break it off, and he turns..

[Pyramid*]

Given the amount of press coverage on this, even in the UK - and given the holiday makers who have access to internet, who like to catch up on news etc / buy newspapers on holiday, those who browse papers at newstands and shops etc - it's strange that not one person has spotted either of them or the car.

The money situation is still one I think about - I know the French have said no ATMS appear to have been used, but no info from side re credit card usage and nothing from this end about him lifting a wad of cash or making regular unaccounted for withdrawls. This guy is meant to be married; there's a distint lack of info coming from the wife's direction - that I find surprising.

[Nedusa]

I think the longer it goes on, the longer his 'rap sheet' is going to be, so yep, they have a reason to arrest him, and if/when they do - I think some if not all of what you've listed could apply.

Given his father's fears that he may 'flip' - that's got alarm bells ringing. To me,that's indicative that he has 'flipped' before: and that his father knows the 'warning signs'.

How he flips and to what extent is the part I'd like to know....................... whatever or however - it's enough for his own father to announce that publically - and that tells me it's not a good sign.

I think the French or Spanish Police need to pull their finger out and start taking this seriously, these people need to be found and found quickly, they need to up the ante and use the press to inform the public that they are wanted.They need to follow up possible sightings, they need to watch border posts, Airports,Sea Ports and Railway stations. They should already be monitoring their Credit/Cebit cards but I suspect this guy has probably got access to cash or credit cards using a bogus name.

I think time is becoming a factor as he must know he can never return to the life he had so his options are becoming more limited by each passing hour...!!!

[Pyramid*]

I think the French or Spanish Police need to pull their finger out and start taking this seriously, these people need to be found and found quickly, they need to up the ante and use the press to inform the public that they are wanted.They need to follow up possible sightings, they need to watch border posts, Airports,Sea Ports and Railway stations. They should already be monitoring their Credit/Cebit cards but I suspect this guy has probably got access to cash or credit cards using a bogus name.

I think time is becoming a factor as he must know he can never return to the life he had so his options are becoming more limited by each passing hour...!!!

I agree: the French and the Spanish don't appear to be putting much effort into things at all: I hope should this every happen with 'one of their own', that the UK would do the right thing and offer every possible assistance.

The bogus name/accounts: if this is the case, then far as I'm concerned, he's far more dangerous than the 'really nice guy' persona that's been projected: that's devious, cunning and imo, takes time planning etc - factoring her age into things and how long it's gone on: is pretty elaborate.

Surely that wouldn't be so hard to check up on - he'd have had to had cards sent to addressess: if not his own, then if he's used someone elses address for mail (ie; parents / friends etc) - no doubt that will be getting looked into. Mind you... given the people who were aware of what was going on and still this happened: I'm not sure I have much faith in that.

It does make me question the standard of responsibility and committment that people these days have to their working roles: I become more despondent every time I read stories such as this and learn of so many cockups being made by people in senior positions of trust and responsibility.

Then we have the disparity between his father saying he is worried he will flip vs the father saying he's gentle and caring...... :conf:

Something about all of this isn't right (apart from the obvious I mean - them both absconding I mean).

[arista]

He has been Arrested


And the 15 year old is now with police in France


SkyNewsHD Live

http://news.sky.com/story/990664/missing-megan-stammers-found-in-france


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/9/26/195052/default/v0/megan-stammers-1-626x352.jpeg

[Marc]

She's been located! Somebody slap her arse.
Like the little kid she is

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/9/26/195052/default/v0/megan-stammers-1-626x352.jpeg
she is now with French police


He is Arrested

[Omah]

That's a relief ..... :idc:

[arista]

Yes
The Teacher must be Fully Sacked fast

[Munchkins]

Shocked they've got them tbh :O
he is so screwed though

[the truth]

delighted theyve found her safe, what a relief for everyone
ps goodness me those dimples are cute.

[Marcus.]

the techer going to get the book at him

[Munchkins]

They were found in BORDEAUX
Think they might have been trying to cross over to Spain

[Marcus.]

They were found in BORDEAUX
Think they might have been trying to cross over to Spain

how far is the boarder to spain were they found

[Munchkins]

how far is the boarder to spain were they found

You can border to Spain from Bordeaux

[Marcus.]

You can border to Spain from Bordeaux

so very close

and thanks

[Gstar]

omg! -turns the tv onto sky news-

[Nedusa]

Glad they found them before this story ended up with a really tragic ending.. !!!

[arista]

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02352/split_2352024b.jpg

No more gigs for him.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9573712/Megan-Stammers-found-in-France-as-teacher-Jeremy-Forrest-arrested.html

[Nedusa]

Good job they didn't go to Portugal because the police would never find them...!!!

[Mystic Mock]

Hopefully the Teacher will get punished like he deserves.

Anyway at least the girl is safe now.

[chuff me dizzy]

Found this on facebook :joker::joker:


Funny thing being a teacher, 1 day ur takin the register nx day ur on one!
Schoolgirl Megan Stammers & her teacher have been spotted drinking at a whiskey bar in France. He was necking Glenfiddich while she was swallowing Teachers.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Hopefully the Teacher will get punished like he deserves.

Anyway at least the girl is safe now.

why does he deserve to be punished :conf2:

if god didn't want men to find 15 year olds attractive he wouldn't have made them sexy

[Marcus.]

why does he deserve to be punished :conf2:

if god didn't want men to find 15 year olds attractive he wouldn't have made them sexy

but to rub away to france really

[Munchkins]

Shes going to despise her parents for a while im sure

[Smithy]

Glad they found them before this story ended up with a really tragic ending.. !!!

idt he was going to kill her

[arista]

why does he deserve to be punished :conf2:

if god didn't want men to find 15 year olds attractive he wouldn't have made them sexy



As a Teacher he should know his Boundary

Forget the Age
Its down to him being a Legit Teacher
who Fecking Groomed her



If you do not understand Grooming
then go look it up
for fecks sake.


Next

[arista]

Shes going to despise her parents for a while im sure

Once she is Older
she can Feck Off
then our news will not be on her 24/7



Next

[MTVN]

fecks sack Scott

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

:sad:

[Nedusa]

idt he was going to kill her

No but he may have persuaded her to enter into some kind of bizarre suicide pact ...!!!

[joeysteele]

As a Teacher he should know his Boundary

Forget the Age
Its down to him being a Legit Teacher
who Fecking Groomed her



If you do not understand Grooming
then go look it up
for fecks sake.


Next

I have to agree, he is also a married man too, he will get the book thrown at him I am sure of that but the School really needs to have it thrown at them too.

As you say, as a teacher he knows there are boundaries he should not cross, he did and now he will have to face that.

[Redway]

Let's just hope this stupid bastard of a man gets exactly what he deserves, jetting off with someone half his age. He should be ashamed of himself.

[Pyramid*]

why does he deserve to be punished :conf2:

if god didn't want men to find 15 year olds attractive he wouldn't have made them sexy

I find that comment - devils advocate or not - more concerning that this story tbh.

Glad she's been found, hope when the parents get her home: that she's grounded big style.

Would really want the teacher have the book flung at him but with the cowardly judges we have in the UK passing out sentences, the father has already 'built a case' for him as far as his mental health is concerned - no doubt that ace card will get pulled and used as a defence......

[arista]

Megan Stammers 'eloped' on her mother's passport, say reports
Megan Stammers travelled to France with her 30-year-old maths teacher using her mother's passport, it was reported today.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9575712/Megan-Stammers-eloped-on-her-mothers-passport-say-reports.html

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02355/Stammers_2355038b.jpg
The 15 year old flying back.

[Pyramid*]

Better than that....

Apart from being married, he was knocking about with a 14 year old 3 months before his first wedding anniversary in April this year.....



What she didn’t know then, however, was that three months before her romantic anniversary, her 30-year-old husband had been seen holding hands with one of his pupils, Megan Stammers, on a flight back from Los Angeles following a school trip. Megan was just 14 at time

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210269/The-wife-betrayed-Months-fairytale-wedding-husband-hand-hand-Megan-besotted-pupil-14.html#ixzz27rk4R8rL

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[Kazanne]

why does he deserve to be punished :conf2:

if god didn't want men to find 15 year olds attractive he wouldn't have made them sexy

Oh dear!!! Can't believe I've just read that:shocked:

[Harry!]

I am glad that Megan had been found, it is terrible what the teacher did - I hope he gets punished properly.

[arista]

'Jeremy spent most of anniversary
alone on balcony': Forrest's wife became suspicious
on Thai holiday that followed LA trip with schoolgirl Megan

Yes the poor Wife had a idea about this Dirty fecker
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/29/article-0-15454500000005DC-13_634x426.jpg
"Jeremy Forrest's wife, Emily, posted this picture of her husband looking pensive while on holiday to Thailand and Malaysia in April. He had recently been to LA on a school trip with 15-year-old Megan who he ran away with to France"




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210621/Jeremy-spent-anniversary-balcony-Forrests-wife-suspicious-Thai-holiday-followed-LA-trip-schoolgirl-Megan.html#ixzz27wWikr6z

[thesheriff443]

i think he is singing one of garry glitters songs in that pic.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/30/article-2210734-1546CA91000005DC-893_634x726.jpg
CV: Jack Dean, who had '10 GCSEs, four A-Levels and a journalism degree from Northampton University', was a fake identity for Jeremy Forrest, the teacher who ran away with Megan Stammers


[Meet Jack Dean... The fake identity
used by teacher, 30, who ran away
with pupil Megan, 15, on the CV that finally ended
their French 'love story'
'Jack Francis Dean' was a 'Northampton University
journalism graduate'
CV said he had '10 GCSEs, four A-Levels and
worked for NME and Kerrang'
Forrest 'used CV to apply for French
job when manageress recognised him']


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210734/Megan-Stammers-Read-Jeremy-Forrests-fake-CV-French-bar-work-Bordeaux.html#ixzz27wv7A6y0



The groomer covers his tracks with Fake ID

[michael21]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/30/article-2210734-1546CA91000005DC-893_634x726.jpg
CV: Jack Dean, who had '10 GCSEs, four A-Levels and a journalism degree from Northampton University', was a fake identity for Jeremy Forrest, the teacher who ran away with Megan Stammers


[Meet Jack Dean... The fake identity
used by teacher, 30, who ran away
with pupil Megan, 15, on the CV that finally ended
their French 'love story'
'Jack Francis Dean' was a 'Northampton University
journalism graduate'
CV said he had '10 GCSEs, four A-Levels and
worked for NME and Kerrang'
Forrest 'used CV to apply for French
job when manageress recognised him']


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210734/Megan-Stammers-Read-Jeremy-Forrests-fake-CV-French-bar-work-Bordeaux.html#ixzz27wv7A6y0



The groomer covers his tracks with Fake ID

yes Fake ID but same head

[bbfan1991]

I am glad that Megan got found safe and well:). As for him, time to face the music and await whatever punishment the courts put on him.

[Marcus.]

I feel sorry for his wife

[arista]

I feel sorry for his wife


From Todays Sun
his Wife has Dumped him.


And That is Very Wise of her.



The 30 year old teacher is in Court
Tomorrow.

[Jack_]

This is a very outlandish statement and a rather unpopular opinion, but what the hell, I really do feel quite sorry for two involved in this case.

I honestly don't think this is as 'sinister' as it is being made out, it could've been far worse and there have been much worse cases. Honestly? I just think there's a slight overreaction to the whole thing and I think this case has thrown a few of the laws regarding paedophillia and minors up for question and review. Yes, I know in the eyes of the law she's underage and he's therefore technically a paedophile, but I don't know...there's just something different about this case. If it had been a 12 year old he'd run off with I'd have a different view of things, but at 15 and six months away from being 16...just...I don't know, a bit, unfair? That's not the right word but I don't know what is.

You can't help who you fall in love with basically, and unfortunately for this man it happened to be with probably the worst person possible. But again, you can't help that. If only he'd have held off for a year and no one would've batted an eyelid (well, apart from the Daily Mail, Express, Sun etc), that's the sad thing about this I think and one which to me does beg the question...is there really that much difference between 15 and a half and 16? I know I'm more than likely going to be alone in this view and will have the usual members on my back but to me this is a very sad love story gone wrong. Not just some paedophillic sex quest.

I am of course pleased that they're both safe and well, and of course his conduct as a teacher does need some investigation, but yeah...this is a very different case to most similar to this if you ask me. And I think the French media's reaction is a lot more sensitive and reasonable than ours.

[Omah]

This is a very outlandish statement and a rather unpopular opinion, but what the hell, I really do feel quite sorry for two involved in this case.

I honestly don't think this is as 'sinister' as it is being made out, it could've been far worse and there have been much worse cases. Honestly? I just think there's a slight overreaction to the whole thing and I think this case has thrown a few of the laws regarding paedophillia and minors up for question and review. Yes, I know in the eyes of the law she's underage and he's therefore technically a paedophile, but I don't know...there's just something different about this case. If it had been a 12 year old he'd run off with I'd have a different view of things, but at 15 and six months away from being 16...just...I don't know, a bit, unfair? That's not the right word but I don't know what is.

You can't help who you fall in love with basically, and unfortunately for this man it happened to be with probably the worst person possible. But again, you can't help that. If only he'd have held off for a year and no one would've batted an eyelid (well, apart from the Daily Mail, Express, Sun etc), that's the sad thing about this I think and one which to me does beg the question...is there really that much difference between 15 and a half and 16? I know I'm more than likely going to be alone in this view and will have the usual members on my back but to me this is a very sad love story gone wrong. Not just some paedophillic sex quest.

I am of course pleased that they're both safe and well, and of course his conduct as a teacher does need some investigation, but yeah...this is a very different case to most similar to this if you ask me. And I think the French media's reaction is a lot more sensitive and reasonable than ours.

Erm, Forrest had just married when he "took an interest" in a 14-year-old child - not "loving" his new wife but "loving" a minor is unexpected behaviour for any husband, but least of all from a teacher, who acts "in loco parentis" .....

[arista]

Jack
he is Scum


He Fecked his wife off on Holiday
as he was already in the 14 year olds knickers.



Jack you do not have all the Facts

[Jack_]

Erm, Forrest had just married when he "took an interest" in a 14-year-old child - not "loving" his new wife but "loving" a minor is unexpected behaviour for any husband, but least of all from a teacher, who acts "in loco parentis" .....

Well I hardly think he's going to declare his wedding off and admit to loving a child now is he? From what I've heard of this case wasn't there reports by his wife of him being isolated and reserved on their honeymoon? Quite clearly his mind was elsewhere, and I'll reiterate this again - you cannot help who you fall in love with, for him this is just unfortunate. Now I'm not saying that acting upon his interest in the girl before she was 16 was the best of ideas, and once again his conduct as a teacher definitely needs investigating, but as far as I'm concerned aged 15 and a half you are more than aware of what you are doing, this isn't a case of a 10 year old being persuaded and lured into another country without understanding what's happening, this is a girl of near-legal age foolishly and sadly acting upon her apparent feelings before her 16th Birthday.

All the evidence from this case that I've seen in my passing interest in it doesn't seem overly sinister to me. Indeed the tattoo or message or whatever it was that he posted where he discussed with himself acting upon feelings that he proclaimed were 'morally wrong' or something (I can't remember exactly) shows that this wasn't just some underage sex-fuelled fling, and more than he knew he'd developed feelings for someone that sadly he shouldn't have. That, IMO, is more than can be said for a lot of these cases where the outcome is a lot worse and the drive is a lot less, let's say...lovey-dovey.

[Redway]

I agree that he shouldn't have gone off to France with a 15-year-old but I agree with some of Jack's post. You can't help who you love and the only thing he deserves to be punished for is leaving with her.

[Omah]

"Love" ..... or infatuation with an impressionable child?

I have no doubt that, in years to come, Megan will regard her "excursion" to France with a much older, married, man, with horror and repugnance, and her "capture" as a lucky "escape" ..... :pipe:

[Redway]

Does that sort of attitude extend to homosexuality and interracial relationships? Do the people involved have a choice in regards to who they love or is that somehow different?

[Pyramid*]

This is a very outlandish statement and a rather unpopular opinion, but what the hell, I really do feel quite sorry for two involved in this case.

I honestly don't think this is as 'sinister' as it is being made out, it could've been far worse and there have been much worse cases. Honestly? I just think there's a slight overreaction to the whole thing and I think this case has thrown a few of the laws regarding paedophillia and minors up for question and review. Yes, I know in the eyes of the law she's underage and he's therefore technically a paedophile, but I don't know...there's just something different about this case. If it had been a 12 year old he'd run off with I'd have a different view of things, but at 15 and six months away from being 16...just...I don't know, a bit, unfair? That's not the right word but I don't know what is.

You can't help who you fall in love with basically, and unfortunately for this man it happened to be with probably the worst person possible. But again, you can't help that. If only he'd have held off for a year and no one would've batted an eyelid (well, apart from the Daily Mail, Express, Sun etc), that's the sad thing about this I think and one which to me does beg the question...is there really that much difference between 15 and a half and 16? I know I'm more than likely going to be alone in this view and will have the usual members on my back but to me this is a very sad love story gone wrong. Not just some paedophillic sex quest.

I am of course pleased that they're both safe and well, and of course his conduct as a teacher does need some investigation, but yeah...this is a very different case to most similar to this if you ask me. And I think the French media's reaction is a lot more sensitive and reasonable than ours.

You are correct in saying there is not much difference between 15 and half and 16 - but there is between a 14 year old and a 16 year old.....she was only 14 when it was brought to light that something was going on (could have been going on longer before anyone noticed).


If he'd been a 'real man' - he would have respected her young age - (and himself) - not to mention the fact that he had a wife of less than one year - he would have shown some respect to all of that: he'd have seperated from his wife, held off till Megan was 16, he'd have moved away from teaching, and in teaching her in particular, and would have respected the laws of the land - as well as her, his her parents, his wife, himself.


Nothing more than a selfish git - but there you have it - such types exist and they don't care who they hurt, worry or cause upset to - as long as they get what they want.

If this relationship 'is meant to be'.... then it will withstand all of what is going to be in front of them in the near future.

Have to say: I doubt it.

Once Megan is over her broken heart and what (imo) is probably teenager love/crush stuff: she will come to realise what a silly young girl she has been: and move on with her life, enjoy the rest of her teenage years doing what teenagers do - before settling down with a man twice her age.

[Pyramid*]

I agree that he shouldn't have gone off to France with a 15-year-old but I agree with some of Jack's post. You can't help who you love and the only thing he deserves to be punished for is leaving with her.

No you can't help who you fall in love with.....but you CAN help acting on that & make the correct (moral and legal) choices - therein lies the difference.

[Omah]

Does that sort of attitude extend to homosexuality and interracial relationships? Do the people involved have a choice in regards to who they love or is that somehow different?

Have you got a chip on your shoulder about me?

It's not my "attitude" that appears to be in question but yours - persistent stalking and aggressive baiting displays a lack of understanding about the fundamentals of discussion and debate ..... :idc:

[arista]

"realise what a silly young girl she has been"

Bang On Right


That Teacher is Scum.


There is a Boundary
And Teachers that go over that Red Line
should be Jailed.


Also to Jack
He groomed her
FACT

[Redway]

No you can't help who you fall in love with.....but you CAN help acting on that & make the correct (moral and legal) choices - therein lies the difference.
Basically this, only better-worded than me. :tongue:
Have you got a chip on your shoulder about me?

It's not my "attitude" that appears to be in question but yours - persistent stalking and aggressive baiting displays a lack of understanding about the fundamentals of discussion and debate ..... :idc:
If you don't want your views to be challenged could you not just ... piss off? Because the whole point of an internet forum is for different views to be offered and if I come across something I disagree with should I not be allowed to pursue the issue even further?

[Omah]

If you don't want your views to be challenged could you not just ... piss off? Because the whole point of an internet forum is for different views to be offered and if I come across something I disagree with should I not be allowed to pursue the issue even further?

You said "attitude" not "view" - same old old tactics - get personal, bait, bully and bluster ..... :rolleyes:

Physician, heal thyself ..... :hmph:

Dialogue terminated

[the truth]

Have you got a chip on your shoulder about me?

It's not my "attitude" that appears to be in question but yours - persistent stalking and aggressive baiting displays a lack of understanding about the fundamentals of discussion and debate ..... :idc:

I disagree. I think he asks a very interesting question. we are constantly told gay people cant help who they are attracted to, all this poster is saying, shouldnt the same rule apply to this teacher? yes hes broken thelaw and will go to prison. but should society burn him at the stake or in fact be more liberal in our thinking? did he simply fall in love with a girl a year too soon?

[Omah]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211593/Megan-Stammers-Jeremy-Forrest-extradited-UK-Thursday.html#ixzz28Bk7P9y3

The married maths teacher from Ringmer, East Sussex, travelled to France with pupil Megan Stammers, 15, on September 20.

The pair checked into one Bordeaux hotel for a night and then spent six nights in another, where they subsisted almost entirely on a diet of takeaway kebabs.

Mario Remi, the owner of a Lebanese kebab shop near the Britons' hotel, said: 'They came several times. He always took the food away for both of them.'

Not quite the high life, then ..... :rolleyes:

[Redway]

I disagree. I think he asks a very interesting question. we are constantly told gay people cant help who they are attracted to, all this poster is saying, shouldnt the same rule apply to this teacher? yes hes broken thelaw and will go to prison. but should society burn him at the stake or in fact be more liberal in our thinking? did he simply fall in love with a girl a year too soon?

Thank you.

[Omah]

I disagree. I think he asks a very interesting question. we are constantly told gay people cant help who they are attracted to, all this poster is saying, shouldnt the same rule apply to this teacher? yes hes broken thelaw and will go to prison. but should society burn him at the stake or in fact be more liberal in our thinking? did he simply fall in love with a girl a year too soon?

AFAIK, neither party is gay so that is not an issue in this thread - IMO, the poster was merely being personally confrontational, a tactic I am familiar with and now choose to ignore.

[Redway]

AFAIK, neither party is gay so that is not an issue in this thread - IMO, the poster was merely being personally confrontational, a tactic I am familiar with and now choose to ignore.

How on earth is that being confrontational?

That was questioning your post ... "That sort of attitude" referred to your '"Love" ..... or infatuation with an impressionable child?' post. That also falls under the banner of attitude. Your attitude on the guy involved.

Definition of attitude ... A settled way of thinking or feeling, typically reflected in a person's behavior.

I fail to see what was so wrong in that comment and how your ... err... thoughts on the guy don't fall into the category of attitude.

[Omah]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9583274/Megan-Stammers-schoolgirl-breaks-her-silence-to-thank-people-for-their-support.html

The 15-year-old found in Bordeaux with Jeremy Forrest, 30, has reopened her Twitter account after returning back to Britain.

She wrote: "Thanks for all the nice messages of support, it's meant a lot to me and my family, we really appreciate it."

Megan was a prolific user of Twitter before she disappeared.

Good for her ..... :)

[Locke.]

She went with him willingly, what the bloody hell does she need support for

[the truth]

AFAIK, neither party is gay so that is not an issue in this thread - IMO, the poster was merely being personally confrontational, a tactic I am familiar with and now choose to ignore.

youre avoiding the moral question posed. I think its a legitimate question.

[Omah]

youre avoiding the moral question posed. I think its a legitimate question.

I don't.

[the truth]

I don't.

Youre still avoiding the question?

[Omah]

Youre still avoiding the question?

Ignoring it.

[Niamh.]

I disagree. I think he asks a very interesting question. we are constantly told gay people cant help who they are attracted to, all this poster is saying, shouldnt the same rule apply to this teacher? yes hes broken thelaw and will go to prison. but should society burn him at the stake or in fact be more liberal in our thinking? did he simply fall in love with a girl a year too soon?

Well besides the fact that she was underage, he was also her teacher. Parents shouldn't have to worry about teachers running off with their underage kids while at school and for that alone it was morally wrong of him to do what he did. We may not be able to help our feelings for people but he as an adult and more specifically him as a teacher, in a position of responsibility should not have acted on these feelings. Not to mention the fact he was already a married man.

[MTVN]

I don't really see the comparison between; a married teacher illegally running off to a foreign country with an underage pupil, and somebody being gay, tbh

[Niamh.]

I don't really see the comparison between; a married teacher illegally running off to a foreign country with an underage girl, and somebody being gay, tbh

lol, yeah exactly.

[Novo]

She's getting treated like some sort of massive victim in all of this ****ed off to france for a few days feasted on Kebabs and then came home and everyone is like " Aww hope your okay Megan :) "

[Vicky.]

We cant control who we are attracted to, I agree with that. But we can control whether we act on it or not. And in this case, the guy should have waited until she was at least 16.

[Niamh.]

We cant control who we are attracted to, I agree with that. But we can control whether we act on it or not. And in this case, the guy should have waited until she was at least 16.

He was her teacher, he shouldn't have got involved with her at all while he was still teaching at that school and she was still a student

[King Gizzard]

I just can't bring myself to care about this really (pointless post alert)

[MTVN]

Well thanks for letting us know that Nathan

[Vicky.]

He was her teacher, he shouldn't have got involved with her at all while he was still teaching at that school and she was still a student

I very much doubt anyone would have batted an eyelid if she wasnt underage.

[the truth]

We cant control who we are attracted to, I agree with that. But we can control whether we act on it or not. And in this case, the guy should have waited until she was at least 16.

100% agreed. Lets just hope they didnt have sex. if they didnt then his crime is diminished. he wont teach again thats for sure. but if there was no sex, itll be interesting then to see what his punishment should be. if they did have sex, albeit with her consent , he will face a few years in prison.

[the truth]

Ignoring it.

yes ignoring it is the cowards way out.

[Vicky.]

100% agreed. Lets just hope they didnt have sex. if they didnt then his crime is diminished. he wont teach again thats for sure. but if there was no sex, itll be interesting then to see what his punishment should be. if they did have sex, albeit with her consent , he will face a few years in prison.

I think he is being done for abduction, not for having relations with a minor.

Or he was last time I read about it anyway, might have changed now.

In regards to the bit in bold, good. He's clearly not cut out to be a teacher.