Did celebrity search hurt madelaine hunt?

[the truth]

whats your thoughts on the whole 5 year madelaine search campaign?

personally I was always amazed how it became such a tabloid event, lead by celebrity detectives, of course david beckham had to be involved, then the parents meeting the Pope during the weeks after she disappeared etc

Did all this help or hinder their chances of finding the girl?

Im far more old fashioned and would have preferred a professional forensice, low key police detective hunt. My theory is, if she was stolen away, then the scum who took her, would never have handed her over or set her free, with the entire world watching. the whole hype would surely have scared him to death and made him think, Im never going to give her up or let them know where she is.

this is one major reason why detective hunts are not celebrity lead and are usually low key, collecting the evidence and interviewing key witnesses and joining up the dots

theres no exact pattern, perhaps the parents were so desperate theyd try anything, perhaps as was hinted they had no confidence in the police involved, but it all seemed very strange. the more tabloid it became, the worse the police seemed to get and the farther away they seemed to get from tracing the evidence.

I for one, after watching all documentarriess, still found it unclear exactly what happened and how far away madelaine and the kids were from the parents at the time of the alleged kidnapping

On 17 June, after Madeleine was found to be missing, Chief Inspector Olegário de Sousa said that the presence of so many people in the apartment from which she disappeared, had complicated the work of the scientific team. He added that this could have destroyed all the evidence and could prove to be fatal to the investigation.[38

your thoughts?

[Kazanne]

I kind of agree with what you are saying,the thing I find hard to conceive is the fact both parents went for a meal and left the children with no babysitter,which i believe were available on the complex,how on earth could you sit down and enjoy a meal knowing your kids were alone,i dont care that they were asleep,anything could have happened,and although I feel deeply sorry for the parents,something deep down tells me it's their own fault,and i do think the media frenzy harmed the chances of finding her as whoever took her(IF they did)would hide even more.I just feel for Madeleine,she is exactly the same age as my daughter and I just know i couldn't go on if anything like that happened to her.

[Nedusa]

There are many rumours circulating with regard to the Maddie McCann story, from her being snatched by a Paedophile ring to her being accidentally killed by her parents. It is a desparately sad story and one I fear that will never have a happy ending.

The Police investigations especially the initial Portuguese one were full of errors and the subsequent British Police involvement did not help matters and threw up more questions than answers. Add to this the Press involvement and the private investigations we end up with a very complex case with large amounts of conflicting evidence.

Will we ever see Maddie again , probably not, did her Mother or Father accidentally kill her (perhaps by giving her too large a dose of sleeping pills ??) unlikely but still a possibility. As I said earlier a desparately sad story with no happy ending.

I would, like millions of others love to know the real events of that fateful night , I think little Madeline deserves at least that much...!!!

[fruit_cake]

whats your thoughts on the whole 5 year madelaine search campaign?

personally I was always amazed how it became such a tabloid event, lead by celebrity detectives, of course david beckham had to be involved, then the parents meeting the Pope during the weeks after she disappeared etc

Did all this help or hinder their chances of finding the girl?

Im far more old fashioned and would have preferred a professional forensice, low key police detective hunt. My theory is, if she was stolen away, then the scum who took her, would never have handed her over or set her free, with the entire world watching. the whole hype would surely have scared him to death and made him think, Im never going to give her up or let them know where she is.

this is one major reason why detective hunts are not celebrity lead and are usually low key, collecting the evidence and interviewing key witnesses and joining up the dots

theres no exact pattern, perhaps the parents were so desperate theyd try anything, perhaps as was hinted they had no confidence in the police involved, but it all seemed very strange. the more tabloid it became, the worse the police seemed to get and the farther away they seemed to get from tracing the evidence.

I for one, after watching all documentarriess, still found it unclear exactly what happened and how far away madelaine and the kids were from the parents at the time of the alleged kidnapping

On 17 June, after Madeleine was found to be missing, Chief Inspector Olegário de Sousa said that the presence of so many people in the apartment from which she disappeared, had complicated the work of the scientific team. He added that this could have destroyed all the evidence and could prove to be fatal to the investigation.[38

your thoughts?

I always thought that there was a high possibility that she'd been taken by a woman personally

[chuff me dizzy]

As some of you may know this case has taken over my life,PLEASE read on here to see the lies that have been told from night one

http://www.mccannfiles.com/


Then take a minute to read this

http://gerrymccan-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/dr-katherina-gaspars-statement-about-dr.html

WHEN this case cracks open it will prove to be the biggest cover up in English history, and im not being over-dramatic, its a fact

[chuff me dizzy]

I always thought that there was a high possibility that she'd been taken by a woman personally

She wasnt taken by anyone ,watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EHJjpXii9o
Dogs dont lie

[Vanessa]

She wasnt taken by anyone ,watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EHJjpXii9o
Dogs dont lie

Something happened to Maddie for sure. Maybe it was this guy David ? Could he be responsible? :conf:

[Nedusa]

As some of you may know this case has taken over my life,PLEASE read on here to see the lies that have been told from night one

http://www.mccannfiles.com/


Then take a minute to read this

http://gerrymccan-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/dr-katherina-gaspars-statement-about-dr.html

WHEN this case cracks open it will prove to be the biggest cover up in English history, and im not being over-dramatic, its a fact

I'm have not read too much about this case only the usual Press cuttings. So I am surprised to read your last comment above. Why do you think this is a cover up of such magnitude ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Something happened to Maddie for sure. Maybe it was this guy David ? Could he be responsible? :conf:

FBI cadaver dogs found Maddie death scent on Kates clothing

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm have not read too much about this case only the usual Press cuttings. So I am surprised to read your last comment above. Why do you think this is a cover up of such magnitude ?

MASSIVE paedo ring, with TOP people in suits involved,the UK press has been biased towards McCanns from day one, take time to read the files,you will be shocked

[Vanessa]

FBI cadaver dogs found Maddie death scent on Kates clothing

Maybe the parents gave her too many sleeping pills and she died. :conf:

[chuff me dizzy]

Maybe the parents gave her too many sleeping pills and she died. :conf:

she was certainly drugged ,Goncalo Amaral the detective thinks Maddie fell behind sofa ,as the blood dog found spots of her blood there, when they took up some of the floortiles more blood was found ,but whilstever they are getting the backing they are getting Maddie can never RIP

[chuff me dizzy]

If your child went missing would you refuse to answer 48 police questions ? Kate did


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2500864/Madeleine-McCann-Kate-McCann-refused-to-answer-48-questions-from-Portuguese-police.html

[Niamh.]

If your child went missing would you refuse to answer 48 police questions ? Kate did


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2500864/Madeleine-McCann-Kate-McCann-refused-to-answer-48-questions-from-Portuguese-police.html

:shocked:

****.

[Livia]

Reprehensible speculation, innuendo and hearsay with absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever. It makes me laugh at the choice of photographs on these ridiculous websites. They have obviously searched hundreds of images and chosen those that make the McCanns look like villains. That’s the very first thing that makes me question the validity of these sites.

I hope one day that the truth does come out, and if it turns out that the McCanns are innocent as I suspect them to be (just an opinion, I’m not going to pretend to be privy to any kind of information that others apparently claim to be in possession of in order to support my own view) I hope the people who created the websites quoted on here are prosecuted for libel with the full force of the law.

[Livia]

If your child went missing would you refuse to answer 48 police questions ? Kate did


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2500864/Madeleine-McCann-Kate-McCann-refused-to-answer-48-questions-from-Portuguese-police.html

What she advised not to answer by her lawyer? did she have a lawyer? How was the lawyer's English? How was Mrs McCann's Portuguese? Was the interview conducted in English or Portuguese?

[Vanessa]

If your child went missing would you refuse to answer 48 police questions ? Kate did


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2500864/Madeleine-McCann-Kate-McCann-refused-to-answer-48-questions-from-Portuguese-police.html

I think she killed Maddie accidentally. She's certaintly responsiblr for whatever happebed to her. :nono:

[Niamh.]

Reprehensible speculation, innuendo and hearsay with absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever. It makes me laugh at the choice of photographs on these ridiculous websites. They have obviously searched hundreds of images and chosen those that make the McCanns look like villains. That’s the very first thing that makes me question the validity of these sites.

I hope one day that the truth does come out, and if it turns out that the McCanns are innocent as I suspect them to be (just an opinion, I’m not going to pretend to be privy to any kind of information that others apparently claim to be in possession of in order to support my own view) I hope the people who created the websites quoted on here are prosecuted for libel with the full force of the law.

That being said (and I hope they had nothing to do with it, that thought is just horrific) The fact that they would leave 3 very young kids home alone while they went out for a meal (and don't forget the twins were a year youger again than Madeline) is strange and irresponsible to say the least. Children that young are extremely likely to wake during the night and far too young to be alone, day or night.

[chuff me dizzy]

What she advised not to answer by her lawyer? did she have a lawyer? How was the lawyer's English? How was Mrs McCann's Portuguese? Was the interview conducted in English or Portuguese?

They got lawyers on night ONE, Clearly you know nothing about the case, so doubt you are in a position to comment

[chuff me dizzy]

That being said (and I hope they had nothing to do with it, that thought is just horrific) The fact that they would leave 3 very young kids home alone while she went out for a meal (and don't forget the twins were a year youger again than Madeline) is strange and irresponsible to say the least. Children that young are extremely likely to wake during the night and far too young to alone

The only night the children were left alone was on the 3rd May, and only then to get an alibi ,without admitting to neglect they could not have claimed abduction, the only people who have ever claimed Maddie was abducted were the McCanns

[chuff me dizzy]

I think she killed Maddie accidentally. She's certaintly responsiblr for whatever happebed to her. :nono:

Yes i agree, they also set up a LIMITED COMPANY,not charity as people think within 6 DAYS of Maddies demise,money being used to pay PR campaign, media lawyers and pay their mortgage,the hired and still use Carter Ruck ,the top law firm in Uk ,why would you need this type of lawyer in a "missing child"case ? Gnl Pinochet used them to stop his extradition, what parents head would be clear enough to do this ?they also never even searched for her on the first night, claiming it was dark and went to bed at 3 in morning

[Vanessa]

Yes i agree, they also set up a LIMITED COMPANY,not charity as people think within 6 DAYS of Maddies demise,money being used to pay PR campaign, media lawyers and pay their mortgage,the hired and still use Carter Ruck ,the top law firm in Uk ,why would you need this type of lawyer in a "missing child"case ? Gnl Pinochet used them to stop his extradition, what parents head would be clear enough to do this ?they also never even searched for her on the first night, claiming it was dark and went to bed at 3 in morning

I think they knew there was no point in looking for her. :bawling::bawling:

[chuff me dizzy]

I think they knew there was no point in looking for her. :bawling::bawling:

They knew exactly where she was,they put her there

[MTVN]

MASSIVE paedo ring, with TOP people in suits involved,the UK press has been biased towards McCanns from day one, take time to read the files,you will be shocked

Weren't the Daily Express and Star forced into making a front page apology because of their constant libelous coverage of the story?

[bbfan1991]

I hope that there is the chance that Madeline is found alive, although it has been too long she has been missing that you cannot help wondering if someone has killed her?:(

There has been tons of help for the McCann's and I wish this was the case for other families who have had a loved one go missing or had more high profile coverage, but understand there is only so much stretching of resources the authorities can do...

[the truth]

Reprehensible speculation, innuendo and hearsay with absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever. It makes me laugh at the choice of photographs on these ridiculous websites. They have obviously searched hundreds of images and chosen those that make the McCanns look like villains. That’s the very first thing that makes me question the validity of these sites.

I hope one day that the truth does come out, and if it turns out that the McCanns are innocent as I suspect them to be (just an opinion, I’m not going to pretend to be privy to any kind of information that others apparently claim to be in possession of in order to support my own view) I hope the people who created the websites quoted on here are prosecuted for libel with the full force of the law.

people are fully entitled to question, not to accuse but definitely to question. also theyre of course guilty of neglect at the very least

[InOne]

People only remember Maddie when her parents push her into the news once again

Maddie is also an anagram for I'm Dead

[the truth]

Ive read those 48 questions she avoided all of them , then only answered this one

A Question She Did Answer


- Are you aware that in not answering the questions you are jeopardizing the investigation, which seeks to discover what happened to your daughter?


- “Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks.”

so she in effect obstructed the search for madelaine? that is horrifying

[Nedusa]

MASSIVE paedo ring, with TOP people in suits involved,the UK press has been biased towards McCanns from day one, take time to read the files,you will be shocked

I'm not a great believer in conspiracies but there has always been something that doesn't feel right with this case. if what you allege comes out then I for one would be shocked to my core, sadly though if the cover up goes up to that level then there is no realistic chance the truth will ever come out...!!!

[the truth]

I'm not a great believer in conspiracies but there has always been something that doesn't feel right with this case. if what you allege comes out then I for one would be shocked to my core, sadly though if the cover up goes up to that level then there is no realistic chance the truth will ever come out...!!!

saying youre not a big believer in conspiracies is a statement with no meaning
if you mean you dont question the official statements given about a case or a subject, that makes sense. otherwise it doesnt make any sense at all. is any opinion that even asks questions about the official verdicts automatically a conspiracy theory? take hillsborough, it was right to ask questions and in the end it was right to have opinions on major corruption at work.


many official statements have more holes than the wookey hole, they usually send up a posh sounding sergeants with a bag jaw and huge adams apple to sound all intense and meaningful, when it may be utter mumbo jumbo

if the world of politics and media has taught us anyhting, it is simply this, question absoilutely everything

[Nedusa]

That being said (and I hope they had nothing to do with it, that thought is just horrific) The fact that they would leave 3 very young kids home alone while they went out for a meal (and don't forget the twins were a year youger again than Madeline) is strange and irresponsible to say the least. Children that young are extremely likely to wake during the night and far too young to be alone, day or night.

I agree with your sentiment but the truth is thousands of parents in that exact situation with them sitting only a hundred yards away and going back to check every 30 mins or so, would have done exactly the same without there ever being an issue.All 3 children would probably be sound asleep by that time (once they were settled).

Something untoward, unplanned and with devastating consequences occured that night , the McCanns may know more than they are letting on but we are no closer to the truth after years of investigating...!!!

[Niamh.]

I agree with your sentiment but the truth is thousands of parents in that exact situation with them sitting only a hundred yards away and going back to check every 30 mins or so, would have done exactly the same without there ever being an issue.All 3 children would probably be sound asleep by that time (once they were settled).

Something untoward, unplanned and with devastating consequences occured that night , the McCanns may know more than they are letting on but we are no closer to the truth after years of investigating...!!!

They went to a restaurant though, doesn't matter how close it was to the apartment. I personally don't know any parents who would leave two 3 year olds and a four year old alone at night and go to a restaurant.

[Nedusa]

They went to a restaurant though, doesn't matter how close it was to the apartment. I personally don't know any parents who would leave two 3 year olds and a four year old alone at night and go to a restaurant.

You are right but as I said a large number of parents in that type of quiet holiday setting would take a chance on an action like this.

However reading some of the other posts on this thread there were possibly evil plans already in place that night which would have been realised regardless of the parents decision to sit out in the open air restaurant.

[Niamh.]

You are right but as I said a large number of parents in that type of quiet holiday setting would take a chance on an action like this.

However reading some of the other posts on this thread there were possibly evil plans already in place that night which would have been realised regardless of the parents decision to sit out in the open air restaurant.

Maybe so, that doesn't make it alright or responsible though. Most families with children that young, take them out to eat with them

[Z]

They went to a restaurant though, doesn't matter how close it was to the apartment. I personally don't know any parents who would leave two 3 year olds and a four year old alone at night and go to a restaurant.

It was just unlucky. Not to drop my parents in it or anything, but I do remember one occasion where they left my younger brother and I in their hotel room while they went down to the restaurant to celebrate my mum's 40th birthday - we were put to bed and that was that. I don't know if that's something I would ever do if I had children, because I don't know what I'd be like as a parent - but obviously they were happy enough in the knowledge that we were safely locked away and weren't going to come to any harm. We would have been about 6 and 3 respectively? So I was a little bit older than Madeleine was, but my brother was a similar age. We're both obviously alive and well today and no worse off for the experience, and I only remember it whenever I think about this case because it's so similar.

I don't believe they are hiding any kind of information, I think they are just being lambasted for not playing up to the British expectations of what a victim of crime should be like. We like to support the underdog in this country in pretty much every emotional aspect. Emotional appeals to the public really hype up our views on certain subjects. Compare the disappearance of Holly and Jessica in Soham to this case. The parents were in floods of tears giving interviews and the public really rallied behind them. It's normal to suspect the immediate family because most murder victims tend to know their murderers - but due to the international media coverage of the McCanns, they were being analysed tenfold. People particularly homed in on Kate McCann, saying she wasn't showing enough emotion. How dare anyone tell a woman whose little girl has gone missing how she should and shouldn't conduct herself? People deal with trauma in different ways. I have a friend whose brother was tragically killed a couple of years ago - she never once cried in front of any of her friends about what happened, and she told me that she just felt empty and that she didn't even really feel like she understood what had happened. In other words, she didn't immediately break down and cry over what had happened, she dealt with it in her own way. I think it's tragic that people are convinced that she murdered her own child and has been covering it up just because she didn't show the 'right' amount of emotion. I don't know if she's innocent or guilty any more than the next person, but I do know that that is entirely what this notion is based on. Her perceived lack of emotion. I just think it's really, really unfair. My heart has always gone out to them.

[Kazanne]

You are right but as I said a large number of parents in that type of quiet holiday setting would take a chance on an action like this.

However reading some of the other posts on this thread there were possibly evil plans already in place that night which would have been realised regardless of the parents decision to sit out in the open air restaurant.

I would NEVER,EVER leave mine in any circumstances,they were too young,I certainly could not enjoy a meal,i dont know what happened to her,something does not sit right but whatever happened they played their part by leaving them,IF she was abducted they were 'lucky' they weren't all taken.

[the truth]

It was just unlucky. Not to drop my parents in it or anything, but I do remember one occasion where they left my younger brother and I in their hotel room while they went down to the restaurant to celebrate my mum's 40th birthday - we were put to bed and that was that. I don't know if that's something I would ever do if I had children, because I don't know what I'd be like as a parent - but obviously they were happy enough in the knowledge that we were safely locked away and weren't going to come to any harm. We would have been about 6 and 3 respectively? So I was a little bit older than Madeleine was, but my brother was a similar age. We're both obviously alive and well today and no worse off for the experience, and I only remember it whenever I think about this case because it's so similar.

I don't believe they are hiding any kind of information, I think they are just being lambasted for not playing up to the British expectations of what a victim of crime should be like. We like to support the underdog in this country in pretty much every emotional aspect. Emotional appeals to the public really hype up our views on certain subjects. Compare the disappearance of Holly and Jessica in Soham to this case. The parents were in floods of tears giving interviews and the public really rallied behind them. It's normal to suspect the immediate family because most murder victims tend to know their murderers - but due to the international media coverage of the McCanns, they were being analysed tenfold. People particularly homed in on Kate McCann, saying she wasn't showing enough emotion. How dare anyone tell a woman whose little girl has gone missing how she should and shouldn't conduct herself? People deal with trauma in different ways. I have a friend whose brother was tragically killed a couple of years ago - she never once cried in front of any of her friends about what happened, and she told me that she just felt empty and that she didn't even really feel like she understood what had happened. In other words, she didn't immediately break down and cry over what had happened, she dealt with it in her own way. I think it's tragic that people are convinced that she murdered her own child and has been covering it up just because she didn't show the 'right' amount of emotion. I don't know if she's innocent or guilty any more than the next person, but I do know that that is entirely what this notion is based on. Her perceived lack of emotion. I just think it's really, really unfair. My heart has always gone out to them.

wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong
the doors were open, the windows were open, the 3 children were all aged under 4 years old, in a foreign country?

unlucky is nonsense, it was mindless selfish neglect.

as for the interviews 48 unanswered questions, they didnt even look for her for 48 hours, yet rang celebrities, lawyers and the prime minister?
theyre nutjobs

[Z]

How condescending. Plenty of people leave their children in far more perilous situations and absolutely no harm comes to them. They were unlucky that for one mistake, they were punished so severely. Do you say the same thing about any other parent who has lost a child to kidnap? Yes, they made a mistake, and yes you can rake over the "they should have done this" scenarios, but the fact is that they didn't and they've been punished for it in the worst way imaginable. I think it's insensitive and more than a little unfair to call it 'mindless selfish neglect' but it's your opinion and I respect that. I'm not wrong though, you can't just write off my opinion because you disagree with it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Ive read those 48 questions she avoided all of them , then only answered this one

A Question She Did Answer


- Are you aware that in not answering the questions you are jeopardizing the investigation, which seeks to discover what happened to your daughter?


- “Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks.”

so she in effect obstructed the search for madelaine? that is horrifying

But quite happy for Maddie to make her a millionaire through the LTD Co set up in her name aptly called"No stone unturned"

[chuff me dizzy]

It was just unlucky. Not to drop my parents in it or anything, but I do remember one occasion where they left my younger brother and I in their hotel room while they went down to the restaurant to celebrate my mum's 40th birthday - we were put to bed and that was that. I don't know if that's something I would ever do if I had children, because I don't know what I'd be like as a parent - but obviously they were happy enough in the knowledge that we were safely locked away and weren't going to come to any harm. We would have been about 6 and 3 respectively? So I was a little bit older than Madeleine was, but my brother was a similar age. We're both obviously alive and well today and no worse off for the experience, and I only remember it whenever I think about this case because it's so similar.

I don't believe they are hiding any kind of information, I think they are just being lambasted for not playing up to the British expectations of what a victim of crime should be like. We like to support the underdog in this country in pretty much every emotional aspect. Emotional appeals to the public really hype up our views on certain subjects. Compare the disappearance of Holly and Jessica in Soham to this case. The parents were in floods of tears giving interviews and the public really rallied behind them. It's normal to suspect the immediate family because most murder victims tend to know their murderers - but due to the international media coverage of the McCanns, they were being analysed tenfold. People particularly homed in on Kate McCann, saying she wasn't showing enough emotion. How dare anyone tell a woman whose little girl has gone missing how she should and shouldn't conduct herself? People deal with trauma in different ways. I have a friend whose brother was tragically killed a couple of years ago - she never once cried in front of any of her friends about what happened, and she told me that she just felt empty and that she didn't even really feel like she understood what had happened. In other words, she didn't immediately break down and cry over what had happened, she dealt with it in her own way. I think it's tragic that people are convinced that she murdered her own child and has been covering it up just because she didn't show the 'right' amount of emotion. I don't know if she's innocent or guilty any more than the next person, but I do know that that is entirely what this notion is based on. Her perceived lack of emotion. I just think it's really, really unfair. My heart has always gone out to them.

Total,utter rubbish, read police files available online and educate yourself, its people like YOU why McCanns still walking free and Maddie is in an unmarked grave, shame on you ,The day the took the 1st penny of pensioners money ,made them public property to question and doubt, they have made millions ( now keeps extended family) and still Cameron hands over £6000 a DAY of taxpayer money ,also making them public property, before 1p of taxpayers money Kate should have been MADE to do polygraph test, case solved

[the truth]

How condescending. Plenty of people leave their children in far more perilous situations and absolutely no harm comes to them. They were unlucky that for one mistake, they were punished so severely. Do you say the same thing about any other parent who has lost a child to kidnap? Yes, they made a mistake, and yes you can rake over the "they should have done this" scenarios, but the fact is that they didn't and they've been punished for it in the worst way imaginable. I think it's insensitive and more than a little unfair to call it 'mindless selfish neglect' but it's your opinion and I respect that. I'm not wrong though, you can't just write off my opinion because you disagree with it.

I have never read anything in my life I disagree with more. absolutely dangerous drivel. its like saying a drink driver is just unlucky because this time he got caught. they left 3 children all aged under 4, alone in an unlocked room with windows open in a foreign country, for day after day after day , so they could go out drinking. its only the fact they are wealthy well connected medical professionals that they werent investigated by social services, like 99% of people would have...id have taken their 2 children off them for starters....they should have been arrested for the constant neglect for starters. let alone damaging the crime scene, failing to answer 48 plice questions, and who knows how many lies and contradictions, its estimated at 181 lies the last time I read.

[joeysteele]

I would NEVER,EVER leave mine in any circumstances,they were too young,I certainly could not enjoy a meal,i dont know what happened to her,something does not sit right but whatever happened they played their part by leaving them,IF she was abducted they were 'lucky' they weren't all taken.

Even more so in a Foreign Country, I don't know what I feel as to this case, I have discussed it with other Students.
The overall view is more is known likely by the Parents as to this, I will never understand why they didn't use the childminding service or even why both went out for the meal,it wasn't a special occasion or anything.

For me, the whole case smells rotten,I also find it odd that the other children weren't taken either.
I certainly lean more to Chuff's assessment though.

[Niamh.]

It was just unlucky. Not to drop my parents in it or anything, but I do remember one occasion where they left my younger brother and I in their hotel room while they went down to the restaurant to celebrate my mum's 40th birthday - we were put to bed and that was that. I don't know if that's something I would ever do if I had children, because I don't know what I'd be like as a parent - but obviously they were happy enough in the knowledge that we were safely locked away and weren't going to come to any harm. We would have been about 6 and 3 respectively? So I was a little bit older than Madeleine was, but my brother was a similar age. We're both obviously alive and well today and no worse off for the experience, and I only remember it whenever I think about this case because it's so similar.

I don't believe they are hiding any kind of information, I think they are just being lambasted for not playing up to the British expectations of what a victim of crime should be like. We like to support the underdog in this country in pretty much every emotional aspect. Emotional appeals to the public really hype up our views on certain subjects. Compare the disappearance of Holly and Jessica in Soham to this case. The parents were in floods of tears giving interviews and the public really rallied behind them. It's normal to suspect the immediate family because most murder victims tend to know their murderers - but due to the international media coverage of the McCanns, they were being analysed tenfold. People particularly homed in on Kate McCann, saying she wasn't showing enough emotion. How dare anyone tell a woman whose little girl has gone missing how she should and shouldn't conduct herself? People deal with trauma in different ways. I have a friend whose brother was tragically killed a couple of years ago - she never once cried in front of any of her friends about what happened, and she told me that she just felt empty and that she didn't even really feel like she understood what had happened. In other words, she didn't immediately break down and cry over what had happened, she dealt with it in her own way. I think it's tragic that people are convinced that she murdered her own child and has been covering it up just because she didn't show the 'right' amount of emotion. I don't know if she's innocent or guilty any more than the next person, but I do know that that is entirely what this notion is based on. Her perceived lack of emotion. I just think it's really, really unfair. My heart has always gone out to them.

Well, look I'm not going to comment on your situation but imo it is completely irresponsible to leave 3 children under 4 in an apartment on their own while the parents go to a restaurant. My son is 8 and he often wakes in the night after a bad dream or even just to go to the bathroom and if we weren't there when he woke up, he'd start panicking and he's 4 years older than Maddie and 5 years older then the twins.

[chuff me dizzy]

Even more so in a Foreign Country, I don't know what I feel as to this case, I have discussed it with other Students.
The overall view is more is known likely by the Parents as to this, I will never understand why they didn't use the childminding service or even why both went out for the meal,it wasn't a special occasion or anything.

For me, the whole case smells rotten,I also find it odd that the other children weren't taken either.
I certainly lean more to Chuff's assessment though.

Everything I have said can be found in the police files online

[Nedusa]

I agree when you stand back and look at the bigger picture you do have to wonder how two parents both medical professionals one a G.P the other a Cardiologist could have left their 3 young children alone in an apartment in a foreign country while they both went out for an alcohol fuelled evening. They would have both been trained in all basic childcare protocols, they would both have known the dangers of leaving so many young children alone in those circumstances , yet they refused to use the childminding service which was available.

They could have taken turns to stay in the apartment or taken the children with them, it does seem strange that they made such a fateful decision.

[the truth]

I agree when you stand back and look at the bigger picture you do have to wonder how two parents both medical professionals one a G.P the other a Cardiologist could have left their 3 young children alone in an apartment in a foreign country while they both went out for an alcohol fuelled evening. They would have both been trained in all basic childcare protocols, they would both have known the dangers of leaving so many young children alone in those circumstances , yet they refused to use the childminding service which was available.

They could have taken turns to stay in the apartment or taken the children with them, it does seem strange that they made such a fateful decision.

with the doors unlocked and windows open? its utter lunacy? are they right in the head or what?