Obese People need to be Inspected

[arista]

We should send Inspectors of Fat
round to every UK home
like a census.


We need to get on top of this.


America they are a mess
Obese people have now become USA Base.



Do you think this is a Good idea?
Or are you worried?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obese

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Obesity-waist_circumference.svg/376px-Obesity-waist_circumference.svg.png

[Marcus.]

Why if they are happy leave them

[arista]

Why if they are happy leave them



No as they end up in Hospital
and Cost us more.

No more leaving them alone.

[MTVN]

Don't be silly Arista

[Marcus.]

No as they end up in Hospital
and Cost us more.

No more leaving them alone.

Well no they not

[arista]

Well no they not

"Obesity increases the likelihood of various diseases, particularly heart disease, type 2 diabetes, obstructive sleep apnea, certain types of cancer, osteoarthritis and asthma"



By getting Obese People Fit
keeps them away from Hospital Costs.

[michael21]

Don't be silly Arista

this

[michael21]

this thread need to be close tbh :idc:

[Jake.]

never read so much ****

[michael21]

never read so much ****

this :worship::worship::worship:

[Marcus.]

this :worship::worship::worship:

Thank you your on my side

[michael21]

Thank you your on my side

that right this thread need closing as it will only make members mad mod need to act fast

[arista]

never read so much ****


Its a idea.


Even Labour may use it.

[michael21]

Its a idea.


Even Labour may use it.

try thinking before you post what your idea will cost tax payer more

[reece(:]

well without obese people then hospitals would be empty - meaning less income for the nurses? :joker:

[Marcus.]

Just let them be it there life

[arista]

well without obese people then hospitals would be empty - meaning less income for the nurses? :joker:


Sadly they would not
as we have Smokers , Junkies and Drunks
keeping them very busy.

[Vanessa]

I don't think so sonny jim! :nono:

[Marcus.]

I don't think so sonny jim! :nono:

Your on my side Vanessa

[michael21]

we should all reported this thread to the mods

[Marcus.]

we should all reported this thread to the mods

hear hear

[arista]

we should all reported this thread to the mods


Many of your Posts were Deleted by mods
If you have nothing on the Subject
you have no need to disrupt this thread

[Marcus.]

Why have this comment

[arista]

Why have this comment

Yes you are OK

[michael21]

i have reported this thread

[Marcus.]

Yes you are OK

What?

Oh and i will fight this cornor allways

[Marcus.]

i have reported this thread

Same here

[michael21]

Same here

thanks you :thumbs:

[thesheriff443]

bit of a pointless thread.
you will never stop people getting fat, drunk or off their face on drugs

[Marcus.]

thanks you :thumbs:

As i said i will fight this till the end

[arista]

bit of a pointless thread.
you will never stop people getting fat, drunk or off their face on drugs


Its a Idea
due to Money.


And Drunks and Junkies
would not going to be under this job.

[michael21]

Its a Idea
due to Money.


And Drunks and Junkies
would not going to be under this job.

your mad end of

[arista]

As i said i will fight this till the end


This is Not a Fight
its to Help the nation not
stay like the Obese in America.



Its a Debate

[michael21]

This is Not a Fight
its to Help the nation not
stay like the Obese in America.



Its a Debate

there no debate as it all in your head

[Marcus.]

This is Not a Fight
its to Help the nation not
stay like the Obese in America.



Its a Debate

Sorry i will fight this cornor of this debate

[arista]

Sorry i will fight this cornor of this debate


Yes good.
I hope you post some Facts

[thesheriff443]

if you want a debate here goes.
food is an addiction for some the same for drink and drugs
obesity is only found in the poor it costs a lot of money to eat well!
super markets sell cheap fat and sugar filled meals the same with cheap booze

[Marcus.]

Yes good.
I hope you post some Facts

I will do but some people are happy the way they are

[Marcus.]

if you want a debate here goes.
food is an addiction for some the same for drink and drugs
obesity is only found in the poor it costs a lot of money to eat well!
super markets sell cheap fat a sugar filled meals the same will cheap booze

Are you on my side here

[thesheriff443]

Are you on my side here

this is not the play ground
there is no sides just opinions!

[arista]

if you want a debate here goes.
food is an addiction for some the same for drink and drugs
obesity is only found in the poor it costs a lot of money to eat well!
super markets sell cheap fat and sugar filled meals the same with cheap booze


No its also others now in the UK
not just the Poor.


Yes Trans Fat can make you want to eat more,
so burn it off, or change within your budget.

[Marcus.]

this is not the play ground
there is no sides just opinions!

Ok have you got the same opinions as me

[arista]

this is not the play ground
there is no sides just opinions!


Very Valid

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

What?

Oh and i will fight this cornor allways

As i said i will fight this till the end

Sorry i will fight this cornor of this debate

WE HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME lnffh

[Marcus.]

we heard you the first time lnffh

just what you to get the message

[michael21]

WE HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME lnffh

Scott can you do arista

[thesheriff443]

Ok have you got the same opinions as me

of course i dont share your opinion!
you have got into bed with m21!

[michael21]

of course i dont share your opinion!
you have got into bed with m21!

who are you in bed with :suspect:

[thesheriff443]

Scott can you do arista

if you cant come up with a valid opinion you need to do one!

[thesheriff443]

who are you in bed with :suspect:

im in bed with free speach!

[michael21]

im in bed with free speach!

that fine so only you are aloud free speech no one else

[thesheriff443]

that fine so only you are aloud free speech no one else

no your the one that thinks arista should not have free speach
by demanding this thread be closed.

[michael21]

bit of a pointless thread.
you will never stop people getting fat, drunk or off their face on drugs

yes you are right bit of a pointless

[thesheriff443]

yes you are right
:joker:

[Livia]

Hmmm... the idea that the government should visit every home and inspect the weight of individuals is a little Nineteen Eighty Four... However, obesity, like smoking and alcoholism, is self-inflicted. Fatty, sugary food should be more heavily taxed like tobacco and alcohol are, to pay for the massive strain obesity puts on the health service.

[Jake.]

Why shouldn't people be the weight they choose? I hate how its all 'fat people cost the tax payers as they are all having heart attacks 24/7' just no, people can be fat their whole lives without having an injury.

[Jake.]

Of course some of the obese use the health service, along with alcoholics, drug addicts, the disabled etc. We are all born with free choice, if I was fat and some bloke from the government wanted to come in my home to 'inspect' me, I would tell him to **** right off.

[arista]

Hmmm... the idea that the government should visit every home and inspect the weight of individuals is a little Nineteen Eighty Four... However, obesity, like smoking and alcoholism, is self-inflicted. Fatty, sugary food should be more heavily taxed like tobacco and alcohol are, to pay for the massive strain obesity puts on the health service.


Yes it is a little 1984
Great Film with John Hurt
based on the Great Book.



But look at America - Not doing enough.

[arista]

Of course some of the obese use the health service, along with alcoholics, drug addicts, the disabled etc. We are all born with free choice, if I was fat and some bloke from the government wanted to come in my home to 'inspect' me, I would tell him to **** right off.

Well by then (in the future)
he could see from his beam unit
that you do not need to be inspected

[arista]

Why shouldn't people be the weight they choose? I hate how its all 'fat people cost the tax payers as they are all having heart attacks 24/7' just no, people can be fat their whole lives without having an injury.


Some are not aware,
sadly

[michael21]

Some are not aware,
sadly

what weight are you

[thesheriff443]

Hmmm... the idea that the government should visit every home and inspect the weight of individuals is a little Nineteen Eighty Four... However, obesity, like smoking and alcoholism, is self-inflicted. Fatty, sugary food should be more heavily taxed like tobacco and alcohol are, to pay for the massive strain obesity puts on the health service.

i do not agree about taxing food more beacuse good healthy food cost more!
its the super markets and shops that should be held responsible and the people that pruduce these cheap meals,
also the pubs sell the cheap booze so people drink more than they should and end up in a and e or being dealt with by the police,costing the tax payer more money

[joeysteele]

I guess it is swings and roundabouts to put it cruelly though.

Although obese people do put a strain on the health service, due to their condition they rarely reach retirement ages due to massive health issues so then more is saved as to benefits after retirement age.

There are many reasons for great weight gain though, I know of someone who was diagnosed with Diabetes type 1 and was put on insulin, needing a high dose of it too each day,
They found that their weight was going up considerably and were told insulin can cause weight gain.

[thesheriff443]

what weight are you

well from this thread you look like you are under weight!

[arista]

"I guess it is swings and roundabouts to put it cruelly though."

Yes you could say that.
But can you not see a better future
with a Inspector Of Fat.

[Kazanne]

I think healthy food like fruit, vegetables etc should be cheaper than fast and processed foods,the latter are the foods some people go for because it is cheap and usually full of sugar,salt etc.It might be easier for people to eat healthier if they could afford the 'good' foods,and although being obese and smoking too much endangers health,I think alchohol is by far the thing we should be clamping down on and tackling as that not only affects the persons life ,it can affect a lot of other peoples too,so for me it's alchohol that would top my priority in getting sorted.

[thesheriff443]

I think healthy food like fruit, vegetables etc should be cheaper than fast and processed foods,the latter are the foods some people go for because it is cheap and usually full of sugar,salt etc.It might be easier for people to eat healthier if they could afford the 'good' foods,and although being obese and smoking too much endangers health,I think alchohol is by far the thing we should be clamping down on and tackling as that not only affects the persons life ,it can affect a lot of other peoples too,so for me it's alchohol that would top my priority in getting sorted.

what a great post!

[thesheriff443]

"I guess it is swings and roundabouts to put it cruelly though."

Yes you could say that.
But can you not see a better future
with a Inspector Of Fat.

a lot of the blame needs to be laid at the feet of the super markets and the people that produce these fat and sugar filled foods.

[arista]

Supermarkets
will change.

[thesheriff443]

Supermarkets
will change.

why do you think they will?

[arista]

They are changing now
so I think as the Future comes
Supermarkets will be better
not so expensive Fruit and Veg.



I bought Kenya Fresh Green Beans
for Just a pound.

[thesheriff443]

They are changing now
so I think as the Future comes
Supermarkets will be better
not so expensive Fruit and Veg.



I bought Kenya Fresh Green Beans
for Just a pound.

well you enjoy your beans:xyxwave:
but there is too much money involved for the supermarkets to stop selling their fat and sugar filled foods.

[arista]

well you enjoy your beans:xyxwave: but there is too much money involved for the supermarkets to stop selling their fat and sugar filled foods.


Yes but that will have to change.

Like Smokers are not permitted
in many places now.


Things Do Change

[Livia]

Why shouldn't people be the weight they choose? I hate how its all 'fat people cost the tax payers as they are all having heart attacks 24/7' just no, people can be fat their whole lives without having an injury.

Oh, heart disease isn't the only thing that fat people get, even though it must put a massive strain on the heart to pump blood round an obese person. They're at a greater risk of cancer, for a start. Then there's diabetes, liver disease, incontinence problems are far greater in obese people, kidney disease, stroke, cellulitus, sleep apnea, arthritis, gaut... Obesity-related problems cost the NHS more than smoking-related diseases, and while smoking is down, obesity rates are up. And the hardworking taxpayer is paying for them because while smokers and drinkers contribute more through taxes, fat people contribute no more but cost more.

[Livia]

I think healthy food like fruit, vegetables etc should be cheaper than fast and processed foods,the latter are the foods some people go for because it is cheap and usually full of sugar,salt etc.It might be easier for people to eat healthier if they could afford the 'good' foods,and although being obese and smoking too much endangers health,I think alchohol is by far the thing we should be clamping down on and tackling as that not only affects the persons life ,it can affect a lot of other peoples too,so for me it's alchohol that would top my priority in getting sorted.

I agree to a certain extent... but I know an awful lot of people who are obese who could certainly afford to eat more healthily. I agree that healthy foods should be cheaper though, definitely.

[Jake.]

Oh, heart disease isn't the only thing that fat people get, even though it must put a massive strain on the heart to pump blood round an obese person. They're at a greater risk of cancer, for a start. Then there's diabetes, liver disease, incontinence problems are far greater in obese people, kidney disease, stroke, cellulitus, sleep apnea, arthritis, gaut... Obesity-related problems cost the NHS more than smoking-related diseases, and while smoking is down, obesity rates are up. And the hardworking taxpayer is paying for them because while smokers and drinkers contribute more through taxes, fat people contribute no more but cost more.

Yes but each case varies, those can turn up in anyone, why should people be punished for being a certain weight?

[Livia]

i do not agree about taxing food more beacuse good healthy food cost more!
its the super markets and shops that should be held responsible and the people that pruduce these cheap meals,
also the pubs sell the cheap booze so people drink more than they should and end up in a and e or being dealt with by the police,costing the tax payer more money

People aren't stupid, they know what they're stuffing into their mouths is bad for them. I don't see why supermarkets and restaurants have to take responsibility for people being fat. It's all about balance. You can eat something unhealthy a couple of times a week... you can't eat it every day though, and some people do. And healthy food needn't cost more.

I'm going to let it go this time sheriff... but dont ever, ever disagree with me again................

[Livia]

Yes but each case varies, those can turn up in anyone, why should people be punished for being a certain weight?

Because if you're fat, you're many more times likely to suffer from these diseases. Look at the stats, find out what the health service is up against with rising obesity. Some people are merrily eating themselves to death, taking no responsibility for themselves at all and putting a massive strain on an already overloaded health service.

[Jake.]

People aren't stupid, they know what they're stuffing into their mouths is bad for them. I don't see why supermarkets and restaurants have to take responsibility for people being fat. It's all about balance. You can eat something unhealthy a couple of times a week... you can't eat it every day though, and some people do. And healthy food needn't cost more.

I'm going to let it go this time sheriff... but dont ever, ever disagree with me again................

This 100%

[thesheriff443]

Oh, heart disease isn't the only thing that fat people get, even though it must put a massive strain on the heart to pump blood round an obese person. They're at a greater risk of cancer, for a start. Then there's diabetes, liver disease, incontinence problems are far greater in obese people, kidney disease, stroke, cellulitus, sleep apnea, arthritis, gaut... Obesity-related problems cost the NHS more than smoking-related diseases, and while smoking is down, obesity rates are up. And the hardworking taxpayer is paying for them because while smokers and drinkers contribute more through taxes, fat people contribute no more but cost more.

there are a lot obese people that work so they pay tax that goes to the health service.
also if you are an alcoholic or a junkie they will not be giving anything back only takeing far more than an obese person

[thesheriff443]

i dont think people are stupid,well some are of course,lol
but if you are from a working class family of say four you are more likely to buy in bulk and its these cheap bulky meals that do a lot of damage plus selling there own cakes that they make in store like a large cherry pie for a pound or ten dounuts for 1.50.

[Mrluvaluva]

Maybe local councils could take over tending to the problems in their own areas. Soup kitchens could be set up, which would in turn entice overweight people to them with the offer of free food. They could then be shot on sight, which would make culling easy. Alternatively they could be clubbed to death, but a shot to the head would be more humane. They are after all a drain on resources. For example, their clothes have to be bigger than the average size person. Therefore more material is needed, and more time for them to be made, and therefore more labour. It's not fair on the rest of us.

Alternatively a fat tax could be set up, with varying charges, depending on what band you fall in (in relation to your size). It would encourage people to slim down so they would pay lower taxes the thinner they were.

Or maybe just put them all on an island together with no food readily available and let them eat each other.

There's loads of possibilities...The only trouble is it could push this problem underground with the use of toning body stockings and vacuum packs for these people to hide their true selves in public and con the authorities. Illegal fat clubs would emerge where these people could mix with like minded individuals and big money could be made on the black market. It's an ongoing problem, and a tough one to solve.

[thesheriff443]

Maybe local councils could take over tending to the problems in their own areas. Soup kitchens could be set up, which would in turn entice overweight people to them with the offer of free food. They could then be shot on sight, which would make culling easy. Alternatively they could be clubbed to death, but a shot to the head would be more humane. They are after all a drain on resources. For example, their clothes have to be bigger than the average size person. Therefore more material is needed, and more time for them to be made, and therefore more labour. It's not fair on the rest of us.

Alternatively a fat tax could be set up, with varying charges, depending on what band you fall in (in relation to your size). It would encourage people to slim down so they would pay lower taxes the thinner they were.

Or maybe just put them all on an island together with no food readily available and let them eat each other.

There's loads of possibilities...The only trouble is it could push this problem underground with the use of toning body stockings and vacuum packs for these people to hide their true selves in public and con the authorities. Illegal fat clubs would emerge where these people could mix with like minded individuals and big money could be made on the black market. It's an ongoing problem, and a tough one to solve.

i think you pose a real threat:joker:
a voice comes from a dark alley,
i got a kilo of sausage meat:joker:

[arista]

Fat Tax is in Denmark
but we do not need it here , MrL.

Yes and thesherrif443
in the Future Black Market traders
will be banned for good.

[thesheriff443]

Fat Tax is in Denmark
but we do not need it here , MrL.

Yes and thesherrif443
in the Future Black Market traders
will be banned for good.

did you see it on the news the other night this woman was selling a rat that had been cooked with its skin and fur on for 30 pound,
other meat cooked this way was is being sold elegally from meat sellers.

[LemonJam]

Disagree on the idea of an inspection but agree it's something that should be targeted. At the end of the day though a lot of it's in the hands of the advertising media. They can show as many "motivating" programs as they like with "after 4 months of diet and exercise look how fabulous she looks!" but then in the adverts they'll be throwing convenient fast food restaurants and sugar-laden drinks/snacks in your face.

Even in cartoons which children grow up with they'll be advertising unhealthy foods as "rewards" or something the characters love and eat regularly (often with no weight gaining consequence). I guess we don't realise that we have that mentality plugged into us until it's too late.

As mentioned before I think a big issue is the price of healthier food. As someone who grew up with a very health concious family when I go to buy food on a student budget trying to get healthy foods (imparticularly fruit) in my diet isn't easy, especially when there's a decent cheap multi-pack of own brand crisps or sugar-smothered biscuits around 50p-£1. That said, if they were to make healthier things cheaper, would that mean that the work gone into growing them wouldn't get the credit it deserved? I'm not sure how much a farmer would make per bag of carrots but part of me imagines it isn't much (unless they own a ridiculous amount of land or w/e).

Wow I've rambled and most of that probably isn't relevant. -posts anyway-

[arista]

did you see it on the news the other night this woman was selling a rat that had been cooked with its skin and fur on for 30 pound,
other meat cooked this way was is being sold elegally from meat sellers.


Yes African Seller
on a Market Stall on London News.




Terrible.

[thesheriff443]

Disagree on the idea of an inspection but agree it's something that should be targeted. At the end of the day though a lot of it's in the hands of the advertising media. They can show as many "motivating" programs as they like with "after 4 months of diet and exercise look how fabulous she looks!" but then in the adverts they'll be throwing convenient fast food restaurants and sugar-laden drinks/snacks in your face.

Even in cartoons which children grow up with they'll be advertising unhealthy foods as "rewards" or something the characters love and eat regularly (often with no weight gaining consequence). I guess we don't realise that we have that mentality plugged into us until it's too late.

As mentioned before I think a big issue is the price of healthier food. As someone who grew up with a very health concious family when I go to buy food on a student budget trying to get healthy foods (imparticularly fruit) in my diet isn't easy, especially when there's a decent cheap multi-pack of own brand crisps or sugar-smothered biscuits around 50p-£1. That said, if they were to make healthier things cheaper, would that mean that the work gone into growing them wouldn't get the credit it deserved? I'm not sure how much a farmer would make per bag of carrots but part of me imagines it isn't much (unless they own a ridiculous amount of land or w/e).

Wow I've rambled and most of that probably isn't relevant. -posts anyway-

dont be silly this was a real relivant post.

[arista]

Disagree on the idea of an inspection but agree it's something that should be targeted. At the end of the day though a lot of it's in the hands of the advertising media. They can show as many "motivating" programs as they like with "after 4 months of diet and exercise look how fabulous she looks!" but then in the adverts they'll be throwing convenient fast food restaurants and sugar-laden drinks/snacks in your face. Even in cartoons which children grow up with they'll be advertising unhealthy foods as "rewards" or something the characters love and eat regularly (often with no weight gaining consequence). I guess we don't realise that we have that mentality plugged into us until it's too late. As mentioned before I think a big issue is the price of healthier food. As someone who grew up with a very health concious family when I go to buy food on a student budget trying to get healthy foods (imparticularly fruit) in my diet isn't easy, especially when there's a decent cheap multi-pack of own brand crisps or sugar-smothered biscuits around 50p-£1. That said, if they were to make healthier things cheaper, would that mean that the work gone into growing them wouldn't get the credit it deserved? I'm not sure how much a farmer would make per bag of carrots but part of me imagines it isn't much (unless they own a ridiculous amount of land or w/e). Wow I've rambled and most of that probably isn't relevant. -posts anyway-



But with a Inspection on Every Home
we can reach the
Rich , Middle and Poor.

[Vicky.]

No as they end up in Hospital
and Cost us more.

No more leaving them alone.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9359212/Obese-and-smokers-less-of-a-burden-on-the-NHS-than-the-healthy-who-live-longer-report.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/03/22/alcohol-obesity-and-smoking-do-not-cost-health-care-systems-money/

[arista]

Yes Vicky one report
but its not the Whole Story.

[HBB1508]

Maybe we should just set up gas chambers and gas all overweight people because they don't fit in with our vision of the world...........................