April Jones missing [Mark Bridger guilty of murder; jailed for life]

[Vanessa]

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=april%20jones%20missing&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CCsQqQIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farti cle-2211516%2FApril-Jones-missing-Desperate-search-girl-5-seen-getting-van-outside-home.html%3FITO%3D1490&ei=jcRqUO-vLuer0QWz3YBA&usg=AFQjCNHQZDCS26iCeQ28VG20kpTR0pGLsA

[AnnieK]

Oh god...hope they find her soon and safe...

Thoughts go out to her family....they must be beside themselves

[Vanessa]

Oh god...hope they find her soon and safe...

Thoughts go out to her family....they must be beside themselves

She's only 5 years old. :bawling:

[Livia]

You have to wonder what a five year old was doing playing unsupervised. I wonder also whether her parents will get the same hate-filled bile that the McCanns get on here.

I hope she's safe... I really do.

[arista]

Why did she get in a Van?

Whats the Family like?


Was it a family member?


Why Search if she went in a Van?

[Vanessa]

Why did she get in a Van?

Whats the Family like?


Was it a family member?

No, i think it was a stranger. I don't know. She's only five and small kids are very trusting. :sad:

[arista]

No, i think it was a stranger. I don't know. She's only five and small kids are very trusting. :sad:


If its a Stranger
they need check all the Peado's living in the area

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211516/April-Jones-missing-Desperate-search-girl-5-seen-getting-van-outside-home.html

[Kazanne]

I so feel for this family it brings to mind something very close to my heart,i pray this little girl will be found safe,but each passing hour must be torture for her parents.

[Vanessa]

If its a Stranger
they need check all the Peado's living in the area

Omg! I'm so worried! I really hope she's ok. :(

[arista]

Omg! I'm so worried! I really hope she's ok. :(



Yes thats the first check the Police
do in secret.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/02/article-2211516-154EB8D9000005DC-241_964x328.jpg

[Benjamin]

:(

It was on the news here in NZ, I hope she is ok. I hate things like this.

[Novo]

Hope she is found safe but sadly you hear loads of stories like this nowadays that don't turn out well although it sounds like there were a few kids who witnessed it happen and they say she got into the Van willingly so it's a bit weird

[Nedusa]

OMG this so worrying....hope she's found safe and well

[chuff me dizzy]

You have to wonder what a five year old was doing playing unsupervised. I wonder also whether her parents will get the same hate-filled bile that the McCanns get on here.

I hope she's safe... I really do.

I want to know why a 5 yr old was playing out when it was getting dark, and believe me McCanns have earned every bit (and more) of the doubting they get here and all over the internet, the day they took the 1st penny from the public,they became public property ,and now over £6000 of taxpayers money being spent every DAY ,oh yes we have every right to question them and have an opinion

[chuff me dizzy]

I so feel for this family it brings to mind something very close to my heart,i pray this little girl will be found safe,but each passing hour must be torture for her parents.

:kiss:

[Munchkins]

Awful story, really hope the poor little girl is found
Shocked she was playing unsupervised, but on an article i read it says she was only outside her own house..
Not surprised she got into the van, little children are so trusting :( makes me sick to think people take advantage of that naiveity :(

[Gillian-73]

She's been gone since around 7pm last night, it's very worrying! Apparently people who live there say it's still like the 1950s they don't lock their doors (until last night that is) and kids are all allowed to play out! The important thing is to find her not to judge her parents. Find her first. Is my opinion anyway!

[arista]

Why Search


Find the Van First
how many of those vans are in the area?
(Does a peado live there)

[Gillian-73]

Why Search


Find the Van
how many of those vans are in the area?
(Does a peado live there)

The police will be looking in to that and more.

[Nedusa]

She's been gone since around 7pm last night, it's very worrying! Apparently people who live there say it's still like the 1950s they don't lock their doors (until last night that is) and kids are all allowed to play out! The important thing is to find her not to judge her parents. Find her first. Is my opinion anyway!

Makes you wonder if these sorts of communities are not targeted by paedo gangs who are looking for exactly this type of environment where young children are wandering about on their own. I mean honestly would you let your 5 yr old daughter go off on her own....would you !.... would anyone...!!!

[chuff me dizzy]

Makes you wonder if these sorts of communities are not targeted by paedo gangs who are looking for exactly this type of environment where young children are wandering about on their own. I mean honestly would you let your 5 yr old daughter go off on her own....would you !.... would anyone...!!!

In a word NO

[chuff me dizzy]

Awful story, really hope the poor little girl is found
Shocked she was playing unsupervised, but on an article i read it says she was only outside her own house..
Not surprised she got into the van, little children are so trusting :( makes me sick to think people take advantage of that naiveity :(

No she was playing in garages area, not outside her home

[Livia]

Makes you wonder if these sorts of communities are not targeted by paedo gangs who are looking for exactly this type of environment where young children are wandering about on their own. I mean honestly would you let your 5 yr old daughter go off on her own....would you !.... would anyone...!!!

I don't have kids, but I have three nieces aged 9, 8 and 4. They would be in bed by 7pm at 5 years old, or at least bathed and ready for bed. Not out on their own playing in the near-dark. I don't believe there can be anywhere in Britain so cut off from the 21st Century that they feel it's acceptable and safe to let such a young child out so late on her own.

[Munchkins]

No she was playing in garages area, not outside her home

Oh my god :shocked:
Sad that this town have that attitude, and have adopted "it will never happen to this town" viewpoint..

[Vanessa]

Oh my god :shocked:
Sad that this town have that attitude, and have adopted "it will never happen to this town" viewpoint..

I always played outside when i was little. Even after dark. But my older brother was always with me.

[MTVN]

I think it's a bit unfair to jump to criticise the parents when we don't know the full circumstances, ok so maybe a 5 year old shouldn't be out unsupervised but 999,999 times out of a million this wouldn't happen and by the sounds of it they're good parents who will be cut up enough about this without being looked down on for it

[Vanessa]

I think it's a bit unfair to jump to criticise the parents when we don't know the full circumstances, ok so maybe a 5 year old shouldn't be out unsupervised but 999,999 times out of a million this wouldn't happen and by the sounds of it they're good parents who will be cut up enough about this without being looked down on for it

Agreed! And most kids play outside anyway. You can't keep them indoors all the time.

[Kazanne]

:kiss:

Thankyou Chuff:xyxwave:

[Vanessa]

Please help spread the word. We need to help find this little girl. Maybe someone has seen her? :(

[Marcus.]

The whole of Wales is looking for her

[Kazanne]

The whole of Wales is looking for her

She could be anywhere by now,everyone needs to be alert,and fingers crossed she gets found soon.

[AnnieK]

The first 48 hours are usually crucial in these cases so let us hope the police manage to get some leads and find her safe and well....

I am sure her parents are going to beat themselves up enough with "what ifs" in time but right now everyone should be concentrating on finding her and worrying about recriminations and fault afterwards......Feel for them all right now....couldn't imagine being in there positions and hope to God I never find out:(

[joeysteele]

I feel for the family but it is getting really ridiculous now as to how adults leave children of this age to play for long periods and at all times.

All the news of children going missing would have me ,if I ever have any children in my life, to ensure they are safe at all times, that will mean they are at least able to be seen at this age no matter when they are playing or otherwise.

The message to Parents cannot be made any stronger from all the children that go missing, keep them safe and 'you' make sure they are safe.

[Gillian-73]

Makes you wonder if these sorts of communities are not targeted by paedo gangs who are looking for exactly this type of environment where young children are wandering about on their own. I mean honestly would you let your 5 yr old daughter go off on her own....would you !.... would anyone...!!!

I haven't got children but if i did no i wouldn't. I do have nephews one is only a baby but the other at 5 would have been in bed at 7:30 at night.

[Gillian-73]

News conference with police and family @ 4:30pm Sky News.

[Kazanne]

I haven't got children but if i did no i wouldn't. I do have nephews one is only a baby but the other at 5 would have been in bed at 7:30 at night.

I have 3 Gillian the oldest is 9 and I would never let her play out at 5 years old and even now she is watched and in bed by 8pm,we had an incident in our family several years ago that made us all highly aware,so I am probably OVER cautious,it is a shame we have to be like this,as kids so love to play and are so trusting,and how awful that they cannot be like that due to some horrible people out there,i feel so sorry for her parents,they must be besides themselves and probably only took their eyes off the ball for a few minutes,that's all it takes.Fingers crossed for thois little one.

[Kazanne]

I feel so very sad watching this news conference now,PLEASE lets find her soon.It seems very waterlogged and lots of woods and stuff.it will take some searching.Kay Burley is a tad insensitive i think keeping on abour peodphiles all the time

[arista]

a 46 year old male has been arrested

Live On all news now

[Kazanne]

Oh,someones been arrested 40+ year old guy she is still missing!!

[arista]

I feel so very sad watching this news conference now,PLEASE lets find her soon.It seems very waterlogged and lots of woods and stuff.it will take some searching.Kay Burley is a tad insensitive i think keeping on abour peodphiles all the time


Seaching What


She went in a VAN

to a room?

[Kazanne]

Seaching What


She went in a VAN

to a room?

I meant the people who were out searching the woodland etc,it seems quite vast,but seems someone has been arrested so hopefully she is found soon.

[arista]

I meant the people who were out searching the woodland etc,it seems quite vast,but seems someone has been arrested so hopefully she is found soon.


Yes Silly. As she went in a Van

The 46 year old arrested
may have info if its a peado ring.

[Kazanne]

Yes Silly. As she went in a Van

The 46 year old arrested
may have info if its a peado ring.

yes arista but she COULD have been dumped if she has come to harm.

[arista]

yes arista but she COULD have been dumped if she has come to harm.


Or Worse Burried

[Vanessa]

Or Worse Burried

Let's hope she's still alive. :bawling:

[arista]

And the 46 year old
has not been charged and could be let go.

[arista]

And the 46 year old
has not been charged and could be let go.

[arista]

Let's hope she's still alive. :bawling:

Of course.


But the police know more than they are saying
if it is a Peado ring
you must be ready for the worst.

[Z]

I just hope they've arrested the right person and that they can find April alive, this is a horrible story - so soon after the Tia Sharp case too - I really hope this has a happy ending...

[arista]

I just hope they've arrested the right person and that they can find April alive, this is a horrible story - so soon after the Tia Sharp case too - I really hope this has a happy ending...

Yes they will find out
or let him go.



Yes a happy ending sounds great


"Man, 46, held in hunt for April: Hundreds in search for missing five-year-old after she was 'taken by van driver' "

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211516/April-Jones-missing-Desperate-search-girl-5-seen-getting-van-outside-home.html#ixzz289uFLCD5

[Kazanne]

The police have taped off a rural area,it seems to be the focus of serious police action,roads are sealed off.Police helicopter there too.

[Suze]

The police have taped off a rural area,it seems to be the focus of serious police action,roads are sealed off.Police helicopter there too.

Oh no :( Doesn't seem like there will be a good outcome to this then :(

[Vanessa]

Omg! This does not sound good at all! :eek::eek::eek:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Why god..just why? Why can't those people that have sick sexual fascination towards children just die?

[bbfan1991]

I hope that April Jones is found alive and well soon:). I am still shocked at how she was playing outside in the dark at that time though?

A 46 year old man has been arrested then, although the Police so far are clearly not willing to share certain information as they follow up lines of enquiry.

[arista]

Omg! This does not sound good at all! :eek::eek::eek:


No its normal to do that in this area
for checking cars, vans and places.



The 46 year old is a local
if they let him go
will he be able to be free?


Someone will leak his name

[arista]

Why god..just why? Why can't those people that have sick sexual fascination towards children just die?


No they are that way forever , it seems.
But this has been going on before we were all born.

[Jarrod]

Machynlleth isn't far from me. It's the talk of the county atm. Hope they find her

[Livia]

They've arrested him for a reason. If the police think that he knows something I'd like to hope they're going to work on him with sodium pentothal and a pair of pliers.

[lostalex]

you never hear about homosexual parents losing their kids... just saying... (j/k)

[arista]

They've arrested him for a reason. If the police think that he knows something I'd like to hope they're going to work on him with sodium pentothal and a pair of pliers.



Hang On.


He is Local and has a Van


You sound like a Episode of 24

[Novo]

I doubt they have arrested him just for being a local and having a van there is obviously more to it then that

[arista]

I doubt they'e arrested him just for being a local and having a van


Yes maybe he knows the Peado Ring.

[Livia]

Hang On.


He is Local and has a Van


You sound like a Episode of 24

Yeah, well... a little extreme I'll admit. But we're talking about a five year old child. I hardly think they arrested this chap for his conversational skills. Okay, not the pliers... just the sodium pentothol.

[arista]

Yeah, well... a little extreme I'll admit. But we're talking about a five year old child. I hardly think they arrested this chap for his conversational skills. Okay, not the pliers... just the sodium pentothol.


I am sure they will get something from him
as if they let him go
the Locals will Kill him,
even if he is not guilty.

[GypsyGoth]

:sad:

I hope she is found safe and well.

[AnnieK]

Yeah, well... a little extreme I'll admit. But we're talking about a five year old child. I hardly think they arrested this chap for his conversational skills. Okay, not the pliers... just the sodium pentothol.

No keep both if he has any ideas where she is, he has got to talk

[michael21]

really sad news

i hope there find here safe and well

[arista]

The 46 year old local is Mark Bridger

So Ch4News just told us.

[Shaun]

I don't wish to be morbid but when was the last time a child went missing (on the national news coverage) and turned up safe and well :(

[michael21]

I don't wish to be morbid but when was the last time a child went missing (on the national news coverage) and turned up safe and well :(

let hope this is one of the time that when we can say the child has been found safe and well

[AnnieK]

I don't wish to be morbid but when was the last time a child went missing (on the national news coverage) and turned up safe and well :(

Other than Shannon Matthews (which obviously is completely different) I agree....it's very worrying. The arrest is more worrying to as they knew who they were looking for but they haven't found her yet....

[AnnieK]

let hope this is one of the time that when we can say the child has been found safe and well

Absolutely

[Nedusa]

I hope for the best but fear the worst, the arrest was probably standard procedure in these cases, probably the local sex offender who owns a van. He would be the first one brought in. Or a family "friend" with a grudge.

What worries me is they have called off the search for the evening on the grounds that they are going to use specialist heat sensitive equipment and they do not want the public giving confusing images. So maybe they think she is still alive but lost wounded or in shock somewhere in woodland.

Lets hope this little girl is found alive...!!!

[Mystic Mock]

Why god..just why? Why can't those people that have sick sexual fascination towards children just die?

Because you've got some idiots that believe they can change them, or that we are just as bad as the paedophile for wanting the paedophile to die.

Anyway the parents were idiots for leaving her out so late, and I hope the 5 year old girl is found safe and that the parents learn from there mistake.

[Munchkins]

Because you've got some idiots that believe they can change them, or that we are just as bad as the paedophile for wanting the paedophile to die.

Anyway the parents were idiots for leaving her out so late, and I hope the 5 year old girl is found safe and that the parents learn from there mistake.

Mock i dont think you have to worry about them learning from the mistake
they will be distraught..

[Suze]

The 46 year old local is Mark Bridger

So Ch4News just told us.

It says on the site that they have also recovered the vehicle. Link (http://www.channel4.com/news/manhunt-for-missing-five-year-old-april-jones) to news item

Sources confirm that police have arrested Mark Bridger, aged 46, in connection with the disappearance of five-year-old April Jones. Police have also recovered the vehicle they were looking for.

Detective Superintendent Reg Bevan, from Dyfed Powys Police, said a man had been arrested in the Machynlleth area, late afternoon.

Mr Bevan said: "Within the last hour we have arrested a 46-year-old male from the Machynlleth area who is being detained at Aberystwyth police station.

"We made the arrest just outside Machynlleth and we are hopeful that this individual will assist us in locating April, who is still missing.

"We are still pursuing all lines of inquiry with a view that April is still alive and we will continue to do so until we find her."

In interviews after the press conference, Mr Bevan said that the arrested man lived locally and had a vehicle similar to the one described by those who witnessed April's abduction.

"We knew he was in the area, we've been anxious to trace him and speak to him," he said. The man was arrested a couple of miles outside Machynlleth, while he was on foot, and his vehicle has now been recovered.

Mr Bevan said: "He was on foot, he was walking on the side of the road and he was detained by officers and taken into custody.

"Officers have now recovered his vehicle, that was found in the Machynlleth area."

Volunteers

Ten search teams have been combing the area around Machynlleth, Wales where the five-year-old was spotted "willingly" getting into a light-coloured van. Mountain search experts have been leading volunteers.

Volunteers took a day off work and drove from far away towns to find the little girl, missing since 7pm on Monday. Police were appealing for nearby business owners and neighbours who may have CCTV footage to come forward.

Hundreds crammed the town's community centre on Tuesday afternoon waiting to be deployed. They were being grouped into 20s and assigned a mountain rescue expert due to the nature of the harsh terrain around Machynlleth. Police dog teams were also deployed.

A family friend said April, her sister and their mother Coral had just returned from the girls' school when April's mother went inside to make tea. 10 minutes later, he said, April was missing.

She is believed to have entered a light- or grey-colour van on the driver's side of the vehicle, which police say may be a Land Rover or Ford Connect, which is a van-sized vehicle with a smaller front and larger back.

"There's nothing to suggest at this stage there was a struggle when she got into the van," Det Superintendent Reg Bevan of Dyfed-Powys Police told reporters this afternoon. He said the family were understandably upset and they did not appear at the press conference.

"It must be their worst nightmare, as you'd expect," Det Superintendent Bevan said.

At the time of her disappearance, April was wearing a purple knee-length coat (see photo above) with grey fur around the hood, her school white polo top and black trousers.
Ten search teams are combing the area around Machynlleth, Wales where the five-year-old was spotted getting into a light-coloured van. Mountain search experts are leading 200 volunteers.

Anyone who was in the area around 7pm last night or who believes they have information is asked to contact police on 0300 2000 333

The local council suspended refuse and recycling collection in Machynlleth and closed the town's civic amenity centre so staff could could join the search. Locals gathered at Machynlleth leisure centre last night and again this morning as news of her disappearance spread on social network sites.

Hundreds of people have signed up to a dedicated page on Facebook - with users of the social networking site from all over the UK hoping to increase awareness of April's disappearance. Those joining the group are able to download a missing poster, featuring three photographs of the youngster, before sharing it on their profile.

Chris Dudley, who works at the Skinners Arms in Penrallt Street, said the pub was empty last night, with many of the locals joining the hunt.

"All the locals are looking for her in this area - the cemeteries, the golf field, playing field, everywhere you can think of," Mr Dudley said.

Det Superintendent Bevan said he hoped to have specific details about the vehicle later.

The town's mayor, Gareth Jones, said: "We're all rallying around."
Child protection experts called in

As of last night, experts from the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop) were drafted into help last night.

Charlie Hedges, manager for missing, abducted and kidnapped children for Ceop, said he was called at 11pm last night for help on the case and worked through the night.

"When the job first came in it was limited information about a five-year-old girl," he said, adding the situation was complicated by the age of the witnesses and the late hour April was taken.

"There are the challenges of how you interview a child to get the right information, and with the time of day. You can't interview them through the night."

He said: "The main thing to start off is the high-profile media response using the Child Rescue Alert system, encouraging people to give their information.

"But in the background there's an investigation ongoing looking at what has happened in the local area, evaluating the information, carrying out searches, examining CCTV.

"We are engaged in the investigation, we are pursuing some lines."
'Stunned and devastated'

Neighbours on the small estate have been expressing their shock today.

"The general feeling is one of disbelief, nobody can take it on board," said Mathew Harris, 22, who lives on the estate.

"I was born and grew up on this estate and remember what it was like as a kid. Everyone played with everyone else," he said.

"It's the same today. Kids play out together and everyone looks after everyone else. Somebody said that this estate once won an award as the safest in Powys.

The estate is surrounded on three sides by tree-covered hills and at the centre it has some open greens where the local children play.

Usually, the greens are considered so safe that unattended bicycles and balls are left lying on the grass.

Mr Harris said: "Every new family that comes to live here says what a great place it is to bring up kids. They can run free outside, riding bikes or playing football, without any trouble.

"What happened last night is unbelievable. Paul and Coral are loving parents and everyone is devastated for them."

[Kazanne]

the arrested man is known to the family,he is not a relative though,this explains why she got into the car so readily.

[Mystic Mock]

Mock i dont think you have to worry about them learning from the mistake
they will be distraught..

It's ashame that it's had to come down to this for them to realise though.

[AnnieK]

the arrested man is known to the family,he is not a relative though,this explains why she got into the car so readily.

They seem to be releasing a lot of information....hopefully they think she is still alive somewhere and hoping that someone comes forward.....

[Kazanne]

They seem to be releasing a lot of information....hopefully they think she is still alive somewhere and hoping that someone comes forward.....

I hope so Annie,hope she is found soon,if she is out in the elements,it will not be good.

[Livia]

It's hard to imagine the mindset of someone who could harm a child. I hope to God she's found, I know we all do.

[AnnieK]

I hope so Annie,hope she is found soon,if she is out in the elements,it will not be good.

Me too, it's just awful...my son is 2 this month and the thought of anything ever happening to him makes me shudder....can't imagine what her parents are going through either.

[michael21]

there be a news updated @ 21:30

[Mystic Mock]

It's hard to imagine the mindset of someone who could harm a child. I hope to God she's found, I know we all do.

I can't understand why some people want to hurt innocent people full stop tbh, but I do think you've got a really sick mind if your a paedophile.

[Kazanne]

Me too, it's just awful...my son is 2 this month and the thought of anything ever happening to him makes me shudder....can't imagine what her parents are going through either.

Have a 16 mth old,a 4 year old and a 9year old,all are precious and I really feel for her parents.

[Mystic Mock]

Is there anymore news?

[Kazanne]

News conference on Sky News now Mock.

[michael21]

live on sky news now update

[Mystic Mock]

News conference on Sky News now Mock.

Thanks Kazanne, can you tell me what's being said please? as my parents and Brother are watching stuff in our house at the moment.

[Kazanne]

Thanks Kazanne, can you tell me what's being said please? as my parents and Brother are watching stuff in our house at the moment.

Same old stuff really Mock,they are still questioning the man and they have mountain rescue and experts working through the night,they will let us know if anything significant happens during the night,the family have appealed via a letter and they want people to have a rest and help in the search again tomorrow,lets hope this turns out well!

[InOne]

Now it's blown up in the media she will have most likely been killed and body dumped :(

[Mystic Mock]

Same old stuff really Mock,they are still questioning the man and they have mountain rescue and experts working through the night,they will let us know if anything significant happens during the night,the family have appealed via a letter and they want people to have a rest and help in the search again tomorrow,lets hope this turns out well!

Ok thanks Kazanne, I also hope this turns out well but I have a feeling that it won't, it's ashame that TV shows unrealism doesn't come true all the time.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Now it's blown up in the media she will have most likely been killed and body dumped :(

Whoever done it was going to do it anyway so she wouldn't tell anyone about what happened to her.

[InOne]

Just something not right about a 5 year old in a suburban street getting into a van. Especially if it was meant to be a close knit community nobody did anything

[Mystic Mock]

Just something not right about a 5 year old in a suburban street getting into a van. Especially if it was meant to be a close knit community nobody did anything

Because there was probably somebody else that's also not right in the head that helped hurt this girl.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/10/2/196297/default/v1/the-sun-1-329x437.jpg

Whats really going on ?

[King Gizzard]

They better hope that man is actually involved

[Novo]

Yeah that seems very premature to put a picture of him on the front page

[Nedusa]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/10/2/196297/default/v1/the-sun-1-329x437.jpg

Whats really going on ?

The Police are not sure this man is the perpetrator of this abduction and are still pursuing all lines of enquiry, yet the Scum Newspaper sorry Sun Newspaper thinks at this stage it's OK to publish his picture on the front page of a National Newspaper . They should be focusing their efforts in trying to help find the little girl not sensationalising this story so early on.

If this Man is completely innocent , hundreds of people that know him in his home town incl friends and family will always think he was involved cos they saw his picture in the Sun. Another mans name and reputation destroyed in a moment.

Newspapers can be a force for good by this trashy tabloid should have closed down years ago .... Don't buy the Sun...!!!

[arista]

The Police are not sure this man is the perpetrator of this abduction and are still pursuing all lines of enquiry, yet the Scum Newspaper sorry Sun Newspaper thinks at this stage it's OK to publish his picture on the front page of a National Newspaper . They should be focusing their efforts in trying to help find the little girl not sensationalising this story so early on.

If this Man is completely innocent , hundreds of people that know him in his home town incl friends and family will always think he was involved cos they saw his picture in the Sun. Another mans name and reputation destroyed in a moment.

Newspapers can be a force for good by this trashy tabloid should have closed down years ago .... Don't buy the Sun...!!!

The Sun is a newspaper
I can buy it



"If this Man is completely innocent"
Then he can collect his Van (which was down by a river)
and get out the way.

[billy123]

The Police are not sure this man is the perpetrator of this abduction and are still pursuing all lines of enquiry, yet the Scum Newspaper sorry Sun Newspaper thinks at this stage it's OK to publish his picture on the front page of a National Newspaper . They should be focusing their efforts in trying to help find the little girl not sensationalising this story so early on.

If this Man is completely innocent , hundreds of people that know him in his home town incl friends and family will always think he was involved cos they saw his picture in the Sun. Another mans name and reputation destroyed in a moment.

Newspapers can be a force for good by this trashy tabloid should have closed down years ago .... Don't buy the Sun...!!!They fact the scum values sensationlism above the welfare and life of a little girl comes as no suprise the people that buy,defend or even give any publicity to that disgusting rag are free to do so but it speaks volumes about their morality that they are willing to financially support people that have hindered child murder investigations in the past just to make money.

[Vanessa]

They fact the scum values sensationlism above the welfare and life of a little girl comes as no suprise the people that buy,defend or even give any publicity to that disgusting rag are free to do so but it speaks volumes about their morality that they are willing to financially support people that have hindered child murder investigations in the past just to make money.

Is that the man that was arrested last night? Maybe he took the girl? :eek::eek:

[AnnieK]

The Police released a lot of information about this guy very quickly which they wouldn't do if they weren't sure he had some kind of sinister involvement in this case. I agree the newspapers should NOT be allowed to try and take matters into their own hands with this - but the Sun especially seems to be a law unto itself and I would never buy it.....
If anyone was to release his picture - it should be the Police if they think it would help trigger some recognition from the public.....

Am losing hope now that she is going to be found safe - if she is out there somewhere I just hope to God she is found quickly....

[Vanessa]

The Police released a lot of information about this guy very quickly which they wouldn't do if they weren't sure he had some kind of sinister involvement in this case. I agree the newspapers should NOT be allowed to try and take matters into their own hands with this - but the Sun especially seems to be a law unto itself and I would never buy it.....
If anyone was to release his picture - it should be the Police if they think it would help trigger some recognition from the public.....

Am losing hope now that she is going to be found safe - if she is out there somewhere I just hope to God she is found quickly....

Unfortunately we all know how this things go. But i'm praying for a miracle. :sad::bawling:

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/03/article-2211516-1550DEF6000005DC-938_634x591.jpg

The Police have shown his picture
and his Land Rover, just now Live


"It's believed Mark Bridger, 46, was known
to her family - but isn't a relative
Locals say he is a former soldier and
lifeguard with a daughter April's age
Police said there was 'no news' today
despite extensive searches overnight
Officers urged public to leave the searching
to 'trained and skilled teams'
Police reveal another attempted
abduction took place in area last month"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211516/April-Jones-missing-Former-soldier-Mark-Bridger-46-held-police.html#ixzz28EA6zgAT

[Livia]

Another trial by media I see. The press in this country is a bloody disgrace.

[Novo]

Mr Bridger, a father-of-six who had been the police’s prime suspect… Neighbours said he was a former soldier who had worked as a lifeguard, a welder, and at a slaughterhouse. He had two vehicles, one of which was a left-hand drive Land Rover Discovery made in Spain. Police had earlier said that April was seen getting into the driver’s side of the vehicle, which they suggested could mean a left-hand drive vehicle was used in the abduction.

Indeed, Det Supt Bevan said:

“Furthermore April has been described as getting into the driver’s side of the vehicle. This may be because she got in with the driver or that it is left hand drive vehicle. We still believe that the van is grey or light coloured, but again these things can be affected by failing light and street lamps. The indications are that she got into the vehicle willingly… There’s nothing to suggest at this stage there was a struggle.”

Back to the Telegraph, which seeks to balance its report:

Ben Edwards, 22, a neighbour, said: “He is a nice guy, and absolutely brilliant with his son and daughter. He was always putting his kids first.” He said Mr Bridger was “into his cars” and was “never the type to cause any trouble whatsoever”.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/03/article-2211516-1553192C000005DC-176_634x388.jpg

His Land Rover


I thought they said it was a Van?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/03/article-2211516-15531924000005DC-505_306x423.jpg
The Police Photo
from yesterday


"Officers have now officially named Mark Bridger
as the man suspected of abducting April
as she played near her home in Machynlleth
on Monday evening - although they stressed
that he was one of several lines of inquiry.
"
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211516/April-Jones-missing-Former-soldier-Mark-Bridger-46-held-police.html#ixzz28EKeprlO

[HBB1508]

Sadly the more time that passes I think the less likely they are to find this poor little girl alive - it's awful how can people hurt a child? I really hope they do find April alive but it seems odd that they have stopped the public searching now and called in experts - sadly I don't think it bodes well.

[Kazanne]

Sadly the more time that passes I think the less likely they are to find this poor little girl alive - it's awful how can people hurt a child? I really hope they do find April alive but it seems odd that they have stopped the public searching now and called in experts - sadly I don't think it bodes well.

I agree, and they seem to be focusing on the river a lot:conf:

[Suze]

Sadly the more time that passes I think the less likely they are to find this poor little girl alive - it's awful how can people hurt a child? I really hope they do find April alive but it seems odd that they have stopped the public searching now and called in experts - sadly I don't think it bodes well.

I sadly have to agree with your post, especially the bit I have bolded :( I still hold out hope she is found, and soon and alive, but it seems less likely now as time stretches out :( Abduction news is so, so sad, especially where children are involved. Can't even begin to understand how the parents, family, and friends are feeling at the moment. I am still praying that the outcome is a good one.

[HBB1508]

I agree, and they seem to be focusing on the river a lot:conf:

That is very worrying but I think the police know more than they are letting on, especially having arrested this Bridger chap and found his car - it just makes me go cold even thinking about it :(

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Sadly thousands of children go missing everyday not reported nationwide, but those that are reported the parents on the night most of the times seem to have been extra careless that night. McKans left Madi alone, and this one, if you look at the pics of their house and how far April was playing hmm...I just don't know. The police have taught me you can't rule out parents in these situations.

[Suze]

That is very worrying but I think the police know more than they are letting on, especially having arrested this Bridger chap and found his car - it just makes me go cold even thinking about it :(

The following extract, part of which I bolded, taken from the Sky News Site- Link - (http://news.sky.com/story/992497/april-jones-police-release-photo-of-suspect) is also worrying if he is indeed involved in the abduction.

"He was arrested on the A487 just north of the Dyfi Bridge, walking in the direction of Machynlleth, and he was wearing a camouflage green jacket, black waterproof overtrousers and camouflage trousers beneath those.
Police search in Machynlleth. Search efforts continued through the night

"The Land Rover Discovery was recovered from a repair garage in the Old Station Road area of Machynlleth on Tuesday afternoon."

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Police reveal another attempted
abduction took place in area last month"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211516/April-Jones-missing-Former-soldier-Mark-Bridger-46-held-police.html#ixzz28EA6zgAT

sigh

[Nedusa]

The Sun is a newspaper
I can buy it



"If this Man is completely innocent"
Then he can collect his Van (which was down by a river)
and get out the way.

Yes, but Toilet tissue is cheaper and doesn't clog up the toilet as much.

[Kazanne]

aw,her mom on TV now,feel so bad for this family.

[MTVN]

Yeah I don't think they should have released all that info about the suspect yet, remember what happened after Chris Jefferies was arrested for the Joanna Yates thing, the Sun carried loads of headlines about what a monster and evil bastard he was and then it turned out he was completely innocent

[Novo]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/03/april-jones-joanna-yeates-landlord-chris-jeffries_n_1935002.html

[Benjamin]

I may be the only one here, but as sad as this case is, I still would like to believe the main suspect is innocent until proven guilty. I've seen so many cases were people, as main suspects, have been arrested and been made to look guilty, then the police actually find the real perpetrator.

[Niamh.]

I may be the only one here, but as sad as this case is, I still would like to believe the main suspect is innocent until proven guilty. I've seen so many cases were people, as main suspects, have been arrested and been made to look guilty, then the police actually find the real perpetrator.

true enough Ben, you can't help but wonder why he's being held for so long though

[Novo]

Look at his face in that picture it has guilty written all over it

[Benjamin]

true enough Ben, you can't help but wonder why he's being held for so long though

True , but many suspects have been held for a while and had absolutely nothing to do with it. It just annoys me that some people are so fickle to instantly believe what the media tells them. He may or may not be guilty, but until he is proven guilty I'd like to think he is innocent.

[Benjamin]

Look at his face in that picture it has guilty written all over it

Novo, I like you, but stop being a douchebag. The media are not going to print a nice, happy picture of him. They want him to look sinister.

[Vicky.]

If this bloke has nothing to do with it...he will still forever be associated with the case. I dont believe photos should be released until a successful conviction has been made.

[Niamh.]

True , but many suspects have been held for a while and had absolutely nothing to do with it. It just annoys me that some people are so fickle to instantly believe what the media tells them. He may or may not be guilty, but until he is proven guilty I'd like to think he is innocent.

Ah yeah I know, I mean I've never actually said Oh yeah he definitely did it but I do think that police must have some serious reason to think he's involved. It's only human nature to have an opinion on it or a feeling, though I do think they should have tried to keep his name out of the press until it was proven to have been him

[Novo]

Novo, I like you, but stop being a douchebag. The media are not going to print a nice, happy picture of him. They want him to look sinister.

That picture was took yesterday look at his eyes he's as guilty as **** anyone who can't see that by now is hopeless

[Novo]

It's not really a matter of finding the person that did it anymore they've already got him obviously and now they just want the information

[Benjamin]

If this bloke has nothing to do with it...he will still forever be associated with the case. I dont believe photos should be released until a successful conviction has been made.

Exactly! If he is guilty then great, but if he is innocent people will always be wary of him for no reason whatsoever.

And Novo, so because he looks guilty in that photo that is a reason to believe it? Sorry, but if anyone was arrested for something like this they would look as worn down and tired, you cannot expect anyone to look fresh and "innocent" in photos for this kind of case, be they guilty or innocent.

[Vicky.]

And Novo, so because he looks guilty in that photo that is a reason to believe it? Sorry, but if anyone was arrested for something like this they would look as worn down and tired, you cannot expect anyone to look fresh and "innocent" in photos for this kind of case, be they guilty or innocent.

If we go on how guilty people look in photos, almost everyone who has a passport is a convict and shouldnt be allowed to travel. Seriously...I have yet to see a decent passport photo and everyone seems to look dodgy as hell on them.

A little offtopic though.

If he has smiled or something on the photo people would say its a sinister smile, because hes been found guilty by media already anyway

[Novo]

Exactly! If he is guilty then great, but if he is innocent people will always be wary of him for no reason whatsoever.

And Novo, so because he looks guilty in that photo that is a reason to believe it? Sorry, but if anyone was arrested for something like this they would look as worn down and tired, you cannot expect anyone to look fresh and "innocent" in photos for this kind of case, be they guilty or innocent.

Yeah gives me a very good reason to believe it because IMO that is one of the most guiltiest faces you are likely to see.. not just that though everything else adds up perfectly to be him, The girl getting in the drivers side and he has a left hand drive Land Rover Discovery which are really rare over here.. the description of the car was also pretty much spot on before pictures were released of it, the guy has fathered 6 children to 3/4 different woman and been arrested for keeping chickens in his home for some strange reason, he was also wearing two pairs of pants and completely covered in Camouflaged gear when they found him.. very weird if you ask me

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/03/article-2211516-15531924000005DC-505_306x423.jpg

The Picture that Novo says he can read?

[Novo]

Think i can see the words Guilty written on his forehead there

[Niamh.]

Yeah gives me a very good reason to believe it because IMO that is one of the most guiltiest faces you are likely to see.. not just that though everything else adds up perfectly to be him, The girl getting in the drivers side and he has a left hand drive Land Rover Discovery which are really rare over here.. the description of the car was also pretty much spot on before pictures were released of it, the guy has fathered 6 children to 3/4 different woman and been arrested for keeping chickens in his home for some strange reason, he was also wearing two pairs of pants and completely covered in Camouflaged gear when they found him.. very weird if you ask me

I thought they said she was taken in a van though

[arista]

Think i can see the words Guilty written on his forehead there


Its up to the Police
he is refusing to talk , though.


A Army man
so he can stay like that

[Novo]

I thought they said she was taken in a van though

It does look like a van at the back and someone described it as being big at the back and small at the front which is true

[Niamh.]

It does look like a van at the back and someone described it as being big at the back and small at the front which is true

ah right Ok. How long was she missing before they picked this guy up? For the parents sake I hope it is this guy, atleast they have a chance of finding her if they have the guy that took her

[Vicky.]

Yeah gives me a very good reason to believe it because IMO that is one of the most guiltiest faces you are likely to see.. not just that though everything else adds up perfectly to be him, The girl getting in the drivers side and he has a left hand drive Land Rover Discovery which are really rare over here.. the description of the car was also pretty much spot on before pictures were released of it, the guy has fathered 6 children to 3/4 different woman and been arrested for keeping chickens in his home for some strange reason, he was also wearing two pairs of pants and completely covered in Camouflaged gear when they found him.. very weird if you ask me
I know this is a serious thread and all. But this made me giggle a bit. Why do you think chickens are relevant to this case? :laugh:

The two pairs of pants thing is quite strange though, definitely agree with that.

[Novo]

I know this is a serious thread and all. But this made me giggle a bit. Why do you think chickens are relevant to this case? :laugh:

The two pairs of pants thing is quite strange though, definitely agree with that.

What kind of sane person would keep Chickens in the house

[arista]

I thought they said she was taken in a van though


Must be the kids viewed that Land Rover like a Van?


Police need to say that, though

[Novo]

Must be the kids viewed that Land rover like a Van?


Police need to say that, though

Yeah and that as well, Kids are more likely to describe a Land Rover like a Van then like a Car

[Novo]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9583850/April-Jones-Suspect-Mark-Bridger-gave-her-a-ride-in-his-Land-Rover-two-days-before-kidnapping.html

April Jones: Suspect Mark Bridger 'gave her a ride in his Land Rover two days before kidnapping'

Mark Bridger, the man being held on suspicion of kidnapping April Jones, gave the five-year-old a ride in his Land Rover two days before she was abducted, it has been claimed.

April was a regular playmate of two of Mr Bridger's children who had been with her just hours before she was taken from near her home in Machynlleth, north Wales.
Mr Bridger, 46, had split from their mother Elaine, but often returned to the Brynygog estate in Machynlleth to visit them and was a friend of the Jones family.
Neighbour Amy Fenner, 21, said: "It's not the first time they have been in his vehicle. They had got into the van two days before the abduction."

[arista]

What kind of sane person would keep Chickens in the house


A Army bloke with less cash.

[Kate!]

the fact he's refusing to talk kind of seals the deal for me, why would he if there is nothing to hide. He does have very cold eyes in that photograph, they do say the eyes are the key to the soul. :eek:

It is terrible though when and if miscarriages of justice occur, or someone is falsely suspected of something so bad, like in the Chris Jeffries case, the press should have to meet tighter restrictions until cases like this are proven really. My gut instinct in this instance is he's as guilty as sin, but time will tell. I think we'll know more pretty soon.

God bless the little April :( desperately sad.

[Benjamin]

Yeah gives me a very good reason to believe it because IMO that is one of the most guiltiest faces you are likely to see.. not just that though everything else adds up perfectly to be him, The girl getting in the drivers side and he has a left hand drive Land Rover Discovery which are really rare over here.. the description of the car was also pretty much spot on before pictures were released of it, the guy has fathered 6 children to 3/4 different woman and been arrested for keeping chickens in his home for some strange reason, he was also wearing two pairs of pants and completely covered in Camouflaged gear when they found him.. very weird if you ask me


Carry on being spoon fed by the media. If he is guilty them like I have said, great, they have their guy, however if he isn't the media have just ruined his life.

[Novo]

http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4025677&postcount=98

You only have to look at my track record in declaring whether people are Innocent or Guilty and you'll see that i have this case nailed as well

[Novo]

Carry on being spoon fed by the media. If he is guilty them like I have said, great, they have their guy, however if he isn't the media have just ruined his life.

You need to see the difference between being spoon fed and having Common Sense

[Benjamin]

You need to see the difference between being spoon fed and having Common Sense

Ever heard the saying common sense isn't so common? Those that declare they have it, are those that don't.

The media have spun a story to suit their needs to sell a paper. It's happened many times before and not everytime is the person guilty. I stand by my stance innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

[arista]

the fact he's refusing to talk kind of seals the deal for me, why would he if there is nothing to hide. He does have very cold eyes in that photograph, they do say the eyes are the key to the soul. :eek:

It is terrible though when and if miscarriages of justice occur, or someone is falsely suspected of something so bad, like in the Chris Jeffries case, the press should have to meet tighter restrictions until cases like this are proven really. My gut instinct in this instance is he's as guilty as sin, but time will tell. I think we'll know more pretty soon.

God bless the little April :( desperately sad.


The Army can do that
once you have left.



Its Up to the police to Find out more

[Novo]

Ever heard the saying common sense isn't so common? ;)

No you must have made that one up now Turtle

[Marc]

I don't agree with the media letting out his name, they don't even know that he's done it yet

[Benjamin]

No you must have made that one up now Turtle

I wish I could claim that as my own, but I cannot.

[Novo]

Ever heard the saying common sense isn't so common? Those that declare they have it, are those that don't.

The media have spun a story to suit their needs to sell a paper. It's happened many times before and not everytime is the person guilty. I stand by my stance innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

They have over hyped it yes your right but the point remains everything so far all the evidence etc says this guy is guilty and he isn't exactly helping himself at the minute

[Benjamin]

They have over hyped it yes your right but the point remains everything so far says this guy is guilty and he isn't exactly helping himself at the minute

I'm not saying he isn't guilty, but the media can twist things to suit their need, they have done it before and will do it again. This man may be guilty but until a court of law proves this, he is innocent to me.

[Novo]

Well he's Guilty to me as there is to much that links him to it so until he is released without charge then he's not Innocent and we can't always blame the Media they are just doing a job and some do it better then others obviously

[Vicky.]

"It was wet and cold and the other girl told April not to get into it. But April said: ‘It’s all right, I know them’.http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/april-jones-missing-friend-begged-1357238

I'll be honest I havent really been following this case much til now, as I dont tend to read the media witch hunts. But after reading up a bit on it, this struck me as a bit odd.

[Suze]

The fact the bloke isn't talking, seems quite suss to me. I am not saying I agree with the media reporting, they delve far too much into lives and cause a lot of unnecessary heartache in a lot of cases, and their bile can ruin many a life, as things printed are there no matter what and can't be undone once the damage is done. But can't help thinking that Nova could be right on this one, there are too many things don't add up that point this bloke's way. If little April is still alive, then him refusing to talk could prolong that fact that very soon she might not be. I so hope that she is alive, but can't help thinking that with each passing hour it is less likely now :(

[Kate!]

The fact the bloke isn't talking, seems quite suss to me. I am not saying I agree with the media reporting, they delve far too much into lives and cause a lot of unnecessary heartache in a lot of cases, and their bile can ruin many a life, as things printed are there no matter what and can't be undone once the damage is done. But can't help thinking that Nova could be right on this one, there are too many things don't add up that point this bloke's way. If little April is still alive, then him refusing to talk could prolong that fact that very soon she might not be. I so hope that she is alive, but can't help thinking that with each passing hour it is less likely now :(

[2] good post Suze, pretty much my way of thinking too, the Media are a disgrace with some of the things they do, they frequently go way to far and should be pulled into line. The fact he is refusing to talk seems very suspicious, and as I say my gut instinct says guilty, felt the same in the Ian Huntley case, he reeked of guilt.

[arista]

"Shocked residents on the Mid Wales estate where the girl was snatched told how their quiet community has been shattered by the abduction."

The Police are working to find her
if she is not burried, of course.

[Kate!]

Daily Mirror update

5.55pm The focus of the interviews with Mr Bridger has been trying to find any information about where April is, Det Supt Bevan said.

The senior officer would not reveal what the 46-year-old had said to avoid jeopardising the search.

He told reporters: "He has been interviewed twice. Clearly, our focus in those interviews, as it is in this whole inquiry, is to find April. That is primarily what we've been discussing with him.

"What I don't want to do is compromise the investigation or any chance of finding April, so unfortunately I can't divulge exactly what he's told us so far."

[Mystic Mock]

With how long it's taking I have a very bad feeling about this.

[Novo]

Daily Mirror update

5.55pm The focus of the interviews with Mr Bridger has been trying to find any information about where April is, Det Supt Bevan said.

The senior officer would not reveal what the 46-year-old had said to avoid jeopardising the search.

He told reporters: "He has been interviewed twice. Clearly, our focus in those interviews, as it is in this whole inquiry, is to find April. That is primarily what we've been discussing with him.

"What I don't want to do is compromise the investigation or any chance of finding April, so unfortunately I can't divulge exactly what he's told us so far."


Just what i thought

[Kate!]

yes, they must be pretty sure to be focussing all their efforts on him. I think any sentence given should reflect the fact that he refused to talk as well. Creepy.

[Mystic Mock]

yes, they must be pretty sure to be focussing all their efforts on him. I think any sentence given should reflect the fact that he refused to talk as well. Creepy.

I agree with all this, his a sick bastard if he knows what happened to her and has refused to talk.

[Vicky.]

Daily Mirror update

5.55pm The focus of the interviews with Mr Bridger has been trying to find any information about where April is, Det Supt Bevan said.

The senior officer would not reveal what the 46-year-old had said to avoid jeopardising the search.

He told reporters: "He has been interviewed twice. Clearly, our focus in those interviews, as it is in this whole inquiry, is to find April. That is primarily what we've been discussing with him.

"What I don't want to do is compromise the investigation or any chance of finding April, so unfortunately I can't divulge exactly what he's told us so far."
Where have the accusations of him not talking come from? Nothing in this update suggests that at all. Only that he is still being interviewed.

[Kate!]

Where have the accusations of him not talking come from? Nothing in this update suggests that at all. Only that he is still being interviewed.

Arista said it earlier in one of his updates.

[Kate!]

Its up to the Police
he is refusing to talk , though.


A Army man
so he can stay like that

this post.

[Vicky.]

Ah right, any reason why you think that arista? I was searching earlier for articles stating he wasnt talking and couldnt find any, and this most recent one doesnt say that either. Just curious.

[arista]

Ah right, any reason why you think that arista? I was searching earlier for articles stating he wasnt talking and couldnt find any, and this most recent one doesnt say that either. Just curious.


He has now talked a bit (of course Police will not say what)
but at the start he refused
info was on SkyNews Live.



The Police going near that River
I assume has come from him.


If she is in a out building or Shed
then she could be alive.

[michael21]

He has now talked a bit (of course Police will not say what)
but at the start he refused
info was on SkyNews Live.



The Police going near that River
I assume has come from him.


If she is in a out building or Shed
then she could be alive.



of you live near there you can help look for April #findapril

[Vicky.]

Ugh. According to DS sky news were interviewing the suspects SON earlier. His son who has only known him a year. And who is under no type of suspicion whatsoever (well, not to the police. Some at DS have decided that because he was scratching his ear during the interview he is guilty :rolleyes: )

Obviously everyone wants this child to be found, but reporters and such need some ****ing boundaries tbh.

[michael21]

Ugh. According to DS sky news were interviewing the suspects SON earlier. His son who has only known him a year. And who is under no type of suspicion whatsoever (well, not to the police. Some at DS have decided that because he was scratching his ear during the interview he is guilty :rolleyes: )

Obviously everyone wants this child to be found, but reporters and such need some ****ing boundaries tbh.

what i don't get is we have one of the best and biggest army in the world why not make them do some thing useful and help look for April

[MTVN]

How is it a job for the Army :conf2:

[Vicky.]

what i don't get is we have one of the best and biggest army in the world why not make them do some thing useful and help look for April

I fail to see how its a job for the army?

[arista]

Pro. Police are doing the Searching

[michael21]

How is it a job for the Army :conf2:

I fail to see how its a job for the army?

there can help as some of the area is dangers for volunteer where the army is train are you two saying the army not up to the job then :suspect:

[michael21]

Pro. Police are doing the Searching

yes some

and also volunteer

not pro but there helping

[MTVN]

The Police are more trained for things like this than the army are

[Vicky.]

there can help as some of the area is dangers for volunteer where the army is train are you two saying the army not up to the job then :suspect:

Nope, just that I dont think this has anything to do with the army.

Unfortunately, children go missing every day, if the army got involved in every case, all they would ever be doing is searching for lost kids...

[michael21]

Nope, just that I dont think this has anything to do with the army.

Unfortunately, children go missing every day, if the army got involved in every case, all they would ever be doing is searching for lost kids...

i don't see how that a bad the more looking the better

[thesheriff443]

this is not a lost kid but a kidnapped child,
in these cases every resource should be used,

[Vicky.]

i don't see how that a bad the more looking the better

So you think the army should stop...being the army...and start being search parties 24/7?

[thesheriff443]

So you think the army should stop...being the army...and start being search parties 24/7?

well what are they doing apart from playing army!
it was ok for them to be used for the olimpics but not to search for a missing child!

[MTVN]

well what are they doing apart from playing army!
it was ok for them to be used for the olimpics but not to search for a missing child!

Because that's why we have the police..

[michael21]

Because that's why we have the police..

So you think the police should stop...being the police...and start being search parties 24/7?

[MTVN]

Yes that's exactly what I think they should do

[thesheriff443]

Because that's why we have the police..

so if there is a chance the army could help you would not want to use them?
beacuse we have the police

[MTVN]

I'm sorry but this is a stupid argument

[thesheriff443]

I'm sorry but this is a stupid argument

its not an argument!
it shows that you would not want to use the army in the slim chance that it could help save a 5 year olds life beacuse you think its the police's job not the army.

[Novo]

What the **** are the army going to do that the Police can't do already? they have a job to do elsewhere they aren't mastered in things like this

[Novo]

Don't even know if your being serious or not

[MTVN]

The police are trained for things like this, for situations like this, it is part of their job and part of the duties they are assigned to do, that is not true of the army. Why don't we send out firefighters and ambulance crews to search as well eh?

[Novo]

Send in all the Sniffer dogs around the country i say

[michael21]

The police are trained for things like this, for situations like this, it is part of their job and part of the duties they are assigned to do, that is not true of the army. Why don't we send out firefighters and ambulance crews to search as well eh?

so there can use volunteer but not the army

[Ninastar]

Only TiBB could make a thread about a missing 5 year old girl turn into an argument.

[michael21]

Only TiBB could make a thread about a missing 5 year old girl turn into an argument.

do you agree with me that there should use the army to help look for april

[thesheriff443]

What the **** are the army going to do that the Police can't do already? they have a job to do elsewhere they aren't mastered in things like this

nice of you to join us!
what war is the whole of the army fighting in this country?
the army are trained in searching for the enemy hidden camps tracks ect ect..
more men can search more area's faster.

[Ninastar]

do you agree with me that there should use the army to help look for april

no I think half of you have no idea what you're talking about

[thesheriff443]

The police are trained for things like this, for situations like this, it is part of their job and part of the duties they are assigned to do, that is not true of the army. Why don't we send out firefighters and ambulance crews to search as well eh?

your just diggin yourself a deeper hole!

[Novo]

nice of you to join us!
what war is the whole of the army fighting in this country?
the army are trained in searching for the enemy hidden camps tracks ect ect..
more men can search more area's faster.

So you think just because there isn't a war going on in this country that the Army aren't stretched at the minute or have other plans? do you not watch the news? i don't even know why you think this is a matter for the Army

[michael21]

no I think half of you have no idea what you're talking about

so you don't care that a 5 year old is missing then

[Vicky.]

Have there been any property searches yet? Havent seen mention of them and surely it would make sense to get these done ASAP...

[Kazanne]

Have there been any property searches yet? Havent seen mention of them and surely it would make sense to get these done ASAP...

Someone said they were searching some farm building.

[michael21]

Have there been any property searches yet? Havent seen mention of them and surely it would make sense to get these done ASAP...

yes one this afternoon it was on sky news

[Ninastar]

so you don't care that a 5 year old is missing then

that is absolutely and entirely what I meant

good work m21

[thesheriff443]

So you think just because there isn't a war going on in this country that the Army aren't stretched at the minute or have other plans, i don't even know why you think this is a matter for the Army

its about useing every available resource to hand if there may be a slim chance it can save a young girls life.

[Vicky.]

Someone said they were searching some farm building.

Yeah I heard about that, but I mean, the house of the suspect...and (I hate to say it :S ) the families home just incase?

[Josy]

Looks like they are focusing on a few areas

Police say teams are focusing on over 20 different locations - ranging from houses to riverbanks

[MTVN]

its about useing every available resource to hand if there may be a slim chance it can save a young girls life.

There was a massive volunteer search earlier, huge numbers of police have been scouring the area the last 2 days, they've arrested a man and have now focused on 20 different locations which different police teams are searching.. They're doing all they can.

[michael21]

Yeah I heard about that, but I mean, the house of the suspect...and (I hate to say it :S ) the families home just incase?

no you are right to say the family home as it will rule them out or at least the house

the police are not looking so food now are there :hmph:

[Novo]

its about useing every available resource to hand if there may be a slim chance it can save a young girls life.

Resources need to be spread and you can't expect the Army to leave their duty and help look for a missing 5 year old girl

[michael21]

that is absolutely and entirely what I meant

good work m21

that just how you came across sorry but it true

[thesheriff443]

Resources need to be spread and you can't expect the Army to leave their duty and help look for a missing 5 year old girl

well they left their duties for the olympics!

[Josy]

The army would be of no use anyway, the volunteers were asked to stop searching last night incase it interfered with the police search, having the army all over the place would be no good, so the army argument is completely pointless.

[MTVN]

well they left their duties for the olympics!

Only because G4S ****ed up and there would be no security otherwise

[MTVN]

Anyway like I said the last page this is a stupid argument and it's getting off topic now

[thesheriff443]

The army would be of no use anyway, the volunteers were asked to stop searching last night incase it interfered with the police search, having the army all over the place would be no good, so the army argument is completely pointless.

wrong the army are trained the general public are not!
you makeing it soud like the army would just run around like headless chickens they would work with the police not against them.

[thesheriff443]

Anyway like I said the last page this is a stupid argument and it's getting off topic now

like i posted this is not an argument!

[Josy]

No I don't make it sound like anything, no matter what the army are trained in they would still affect the helicopters search just like everyone else.

And I'm following this thread to find out about April not to get into a ridiculous debate about the army vs police.

[Nedusa]

Someone said they were searching some farm building.

Can you tell me who this guy is in the picture above, he seems to be in nearly every post I look at. I'll be dreaming about him next !!!

[Kazanne]

Can you tell me who this guy is in the picture above, he seems to be in nearly every post I look at. I'll be dreaming about him next !!!

Which picture Nedusa? Josy's?

[thesheriff443]

No I don't make it sound like anything, no matter what the army are trained in they would still affect the helicopters search just like everyone else.

And I'm following this thread to find out about April not to get into a ridiculous debate about the army vs police.

you said having the army all over the place would be no use!
it takes more than one person to have a rediculous debate.
i have said all i need to say!.

[Nedusa]

Which picture Nedusa? Josy's?

No , yours (Kazanne)

[Kazanne]

No , yours (Kazanne)

Oh,lol that's Gerard Butler :hugesmile:

[Nedusa]

Oh,lol that's Gerard Butler :hugesmile:

Of course stupid me I thought he looked familiar, he's a Scottish actor who was the last Bond film and the film Law abiding citizen, sorry going off topic now.

Thanks Kazanne

[Nedusa]

Now they are saying she suffers from Cerebal Palsy and needs daily medicine. This story just gets worse.

But again the point must be stated why on earth would you let your 5 yr old daughter go outside on her own unsupervised coupled with the fact she suffers from quite a serious condition, this is tantamount to gross negligence .

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Now they are saying she suffers from Cerebal Palsy and needs daily medicine.

ugh :sad:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

idk how that makes this situation more upsetting but it does somehow okay

[Kazanne]

Now they are saying she suffers from Cerebal Palsy and needs daily medicine. This story just gets worse.

But again the point must be stated why on earth would you let your 5 yr old daughter go outside on her own unsupervised coupled with the fact she suffers from quite a serious condition, this is tantamount to gross negligence .

I know,Nedusa,poor little kid she may need medication.

[InOne]

idk how that makes this situation more upsetting but it does somehow okay

Because she could be suffering with pain as well as being scared and alone...

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

yeah that's why

[Mystic Mock]

Whoever abducted her really must be a cold bastard to not feel any guilt and just own up to it, I mean did they not see the parents earlier today? or the 5 year old girl probably crying out for her parents?

[Vicky.]

Whoever abducted her really must be a cold bastard to not feel any guilt and just own up to it, I mean did they not see the parents earlier today? or the 5 year old girl probably crying out for her parents?

Well I dunno if the suspect they have in custody would have seen that

And if they have the wrong person, I'm quite sure the real kidnapper is miles away by now, and getting further, doubt they have thought about watching the tv appeals really..only escaping.

[Mystic Mock]

Well I dunno if the suspect they have in custody would have seen that

And if they have the wrong person, I'm quite sure the real kidnapper is miles away by now, and getting further, doubt they have thought about watching the tv appeals really..only escaping.

What about the grief whoever has done this has caused on the child though?

[Vicky.]

What about the grief whoever has done this has caused on the child though?

Well from the sounds of the reports, its someone who she knows. It is possible that shes not even upset yet and thinks its all just a great adventure. This is of course, assuming shes still alive :/

[Mystic Mock]

I don't think the kidknapper would've killed her when they can just let her medical condition kill her instead, so in a way that's a good sign that she might still be alive I think, just need The Police to get there asses in check and find her.

[Glenn.]

I don't think the kidknapper would've killed her when they can just let her medical condition kill her instead, so in a way that's a good sign that she might still be alive I think, just need The Police to get there asses in check and find her.

Seriously?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I don't think the kidknapper would've killed her when they can just let her medical condition kill her instead, so in a way that's a good sign that she might still be alive I think, just need The Police to get there asses in check and find her.

what

[Benjamin]

What puzzles me is how the kidnappers could be stupid enough to do this with a clear witness present (April's friend).

[King Gizzard]

I think the same as InOne said the other night, I fear the kidnapper got panicky because of all the stuff in the media, killed her and got rid of her :/

[Vicky.]

What puzzles me is how the kidnappers could be stupid enough to do this with a clear witness present (April's friend).

Yes thats a great point.

Some on DS are saying it might be a revenge thing...someone who has it in for the parents and wants people to know who did it...bit farfetched I have to say, but possible all the same.

[Mystic Mock]

Seriously?

Well why would the kidknapper get there hands dirty if they don't have to? there's still a chance that she could be alive.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/10/3/196479/default/v1/the-sun-front-page-1-329x437.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/10/3/196478/default/v1/daily-mirror-front-page-1-329x437.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/10/3/196473/default/v1/the-daily-telegraph-front-page-1-329x437.jpg

some of tomorrows papers

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Well why would the kidknapper get there hands dirty if they don't have to?

this is literally the single most retarded thing i have ever heard

if the kidnapper wanted her dead he would kill her instead of letting her go so that she wouldn't be able to talk to police and stuff

or even worse he would kill her because that is what he had planned all along and he would do it because he would enjoy it

[Mystic Mock]

this is literally the single most retarded thing i have ever heard

if the kidnapper wanted her dead he would kill her instead of letting her go so that she wouldn't be able to talk to police and stuff

or even worse he would kill her because that is what he had planned all along and he would do it because he would enjoy it

Im not saying that he would let her go, im saying if he wants to kill her he might want to go the more long way about it to make her suffer, it means not much DNA would trace back to him either, maybe it's just wishful thinking so The Police can get to her in time, but I could be right.

[InOne]

If he killed her it would be ends to a mean. Once they got the satisfaction from whatever they do to her the logical thing in their mind would be to kill her as to cut all ties and lessen the possibility of getting caught.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Im not saying that he would let her go, im saying if he wants to kill her he might want to go the more long way about it to make her suffer, it means not much DNA would trace back to him either, maybe it's just wishful thinking so The Police can get to her in time, but I could be right.

oh :suspect:

well that makes sense i suppose

[Mystic Mock]

oh :suspect:

well that makes sense i suppose

Thanks, im sorry for putting it across like a nutcase.

[arista]

If he killed her it would be ends to a mean. Once they got the satisfaction from whatever they do to her the logical thing in their mind would be to kill her as to cut all ties and lessen the possibility of getting caught.



If she is burried
then how will they find her?