Presidential Debate

[King Gizzard]

Is anyone else watching? Obama seems quite stuttery and nervous

[Shaun]

He's being really out-rhetoricked

[Shaun]

I dunno, Romney seemed a bit more mudslingy than Obama, it all felt a bit cheap and his answers to some questions were vague (the partisan politics one towards the end, for example)... but overall he came off really well. Won't win, though.

[iRyan]

I was a bit disappointed in Obama tonight, he wasn't aggressive enough and ultimately it appeared as if he was "walked over" by Romney. Romney spoke pretty damn well but at the same time there was something about him that was sly and sleazy. There's something about him I don't trust.

[billy123]

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It really doesnt matter who is elected.

Americas withdrawal from Iraq wasnt anything to do with job complete or a response to calls to bring them home it was forced upon them just by asking them to abide by the law and stop breaking the law.
From a CNN report on why the Iraqi Government rejected the Obama administration’s conditions for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq beyond the 2011 deadline:

U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and other top brass have repeatedly said any deal to keep U.S. troops in Iraq beyond the withdrawal deadline would require a guarantee of legal protection for American soldiers.

But the Iraqis refused to agree to that, opening up the prospect of Americans being tried in Iraqi courts and subjected to Iraqi punishment.

The negotiations were strained following WikiLeaks’ release of a diplomatic cable that alleged Iraqi civilians, including children, were killed in a 2006 raid by American troops rather than in an airstrike as the U.S. military initially reported.

That description from CNN of the cable’s contents is, unsurprisingly, diluted to the point of obfuscation. That cable was released by WikiLeaks in May, 2011, and, as McClatchy put it at the time, “provides evidence that U.S. troops executed at least 10 Iraqi civilians, including a woman in her 70s and a 5-month-old infant, then called in an airstrike to destroy the evidence, during a controversial 2006 incident in the central Iraqi town of Ishaqi.” The U.S. then lied and claimed the civilians were killed by the airstrike. Although this incident had been previously documented by the U.N. special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, the high-profile release of the cable by WikiLeaks generated substantial attention (and disgust) in Iraq, which made it politically unpalatable for the Iraqi government to grant the legal immunity the Obama adminstration was seeking. Indeed, it was widely reported at the time the cable was released that it made it much more difficult for Iraq to allow U.S. troops to remain beyond the deadline under any conditions
http://www.salon.com/2011/10/23/wikileaks_cables_and_the_iraq_war/

[Iceman]

bxch-yi14BE

:worship:

[Roy Mars III]

Romney was better, Obama just seemed like he didn't care

[arista]

Romney was better, Obama just seemed like he didn't care


Yes Round 1 goes to Romney

[Livia]

Really? I thought Romney came across like a pompous, arrogant prick.

[Niamh.]

Really? I thought Romney came across like a pompous, arrogant prick.

I don't follow American politics but to me Obama has always come across far more dignified and mature than alot of his opponents, Romney in particular

[Roy Mars III]

Romney was better than usual, and they're all pompous and arrogant Obama included.

[lostalex]

There will be more debates, hopefully Obama was just having an off night and will show up in the next ones.

[Marc]

Surely you've got to have a sort of arrogance when trying to go against the reigning president.

[Livia]

I don't follow American politics but to me Obama has always come across far more dignified and mature than alot of his opponents, Romney in particular

Agree. Obama always seems ready to roll up his sleeve, or have a dance... you know what I mean? He seems more... human, more grounded. Romney on the other hand seems like the stereotypical rich American politician. Mr Plastic Permatan.

[Livia]

Surely you've got to have a sort of arrogance when trying to go against the reigning president.

I guess you could argue that there's a difference between confidence and determination, and arrogance and pomposity.

[michael21]

how many Debate will there be

on the advert it said 4 October ffs skynews

[Livia]

There will be more debates, hopefully Obama was just having an off night and will show up in the next ones.

I approve this message.

[lostalex]

Obviously Romney will always have the advantage in debates, because Obama has been president for 4 years, so he can't use the excuse "i'll change things if i'm elected", cause the automatic response is "well you are already president, so why havn't you done it yet?". Obama is automatically on the defensive.

[Niamh.]

I feel bad for Obama though, he became president at the worst possible time, when almost the whole world is in recession, I don't believe any president could have made things much better at that particular time.

[joeysteele]

I find Romney irritating, I hope the USA re-elects Obama and I hope he steps up in the next 2 debates.
I still think he,Obama, looked the more Presidential of the 2.

[Nedusa]

Maybe he was deliberately starting slowly, knowing that Romney would come out all guns blazing, maybe he was hoping Romney would slip up as he is gaffe prone. Either way Obama will come out on top in these debates.

[MTVN]

I watched the first hour of it, I don't think either were all that impressive, Romney's answers seemed quite scripted and he looked like he was constantly a bit concerned he was about to mess up, Obama was a bit more enigmatic and natural but I didn't think he got the better of Romney in terms of policy or content of his answers

[Brother Leon]

The thing Obama has going for him is that he is up against Romney.

[Vanessa]

The thing Obama has going for him is that he is up against Romney.

That's true! He has to win surely? :joker:

[MTVN]

Romney was the best of a bad bunch of Republican candidates though, at least he's competent enough and he's more capable of appealing to moderates and disillusioned Democrats than any of the Tea Party lot would have been

Obama relies too much on his personality imo

[MTVN]

I see the polls are saying 67% of viewers think Romney won

[Vanessa]

I see the polls are saying 67% of viewers thing Romney won

Omg! He's another Bush. People never learn, do they? :bored:

[the truth]

obama did muhammad ali's rope-a- dope (ali played the sleeping elephant to george foreman, he hang on the ropes for 8 rounds they countered when george was exposed and tired) so romney did perform slightly better overall and won the first round, but is it a hollow victory?...I think the main reasons is as follows

1) hes been electioneering for the last 6 months, obama hasnt, so romney was more match sharp
2) romney is very good at his talking points and he went through them all.
3) Obama doesnt like confrontation. however Id suggest in his pracice for the next one, he needs his staff to grill him thoroughly and get him match fit
4) romney game out aggressive and guns blazing as thechallenger long way behind and with nothing to lose. obama was defensive, playing a safe game and didnt take risks.
5) romney got aggressive stared down obama and said I dont know what youre talking about (re jobs overseas) he also claimed obama put 90 billion in green energy (way inaccurate) and also accused him of letting his own backers invest in these failing green companies. these were blows to win romney to win the debate, but long term, it made romney look ruthless, aggressive, arrogant and a bit unpresidential.
6) obama is biding his time. he did the same with john mccain, he picked him off slowly but surely
7) I was disappointed obama didnt counter more of mitts points about how much tax americans are paying and why. the figure of 42% was bandied about.
8) healthcare, id give it to obama though. obamacare is almost a replica of romney care. romney tried desperately to paint the differences but it failed. romney wants to totally dismantle obamacare, not tweak it. romney doesnt say anywhere what he would replace it with? so there goes 40 million voters to obama. This shows romney says too many radical things to play to his right wing audience. it gets him a cheer in texas, but the cheer fades in other states.

9) beneath the headline grabbing nonsense about obama being stared down. obama was playing counter attack. he wanted to give romney enough rope to hand himself.for romney to make big bold claims such as his 12 million new jobs claim? 12 million really? is that new or net , mittt?

10) obama made great points about tax breaks and incentives for small to medium businesses. that doesnt get the major headlines, but I found that exciting as he reshapes the economy. he also correctly claimed the oil production is up too. to be honest I am not a socialist so I dont like to see too much government interference and government jobs. however regulation of these enormous industries must be tight and must be open and ethical.

11) romney mocked obamas 4/5 trillion debts. obama explained clearly where that came from. obama made it clear as he has already stated, where the next 4 trillion will be saved. 2 trillion less military spending than romney wants (romney again failed to explain why he wants an extra 2 trillion military spending?) obama rightly said hes gone after corporate corruption imposing massive fines and he has and he has in law that every cent leant to the banks will be repaid with interest , on time, or theyll face fines. this has also been the case. he should have mentioned the dow jones is the highest since 2003
12) romney scored with some headline grabbing claims and with his aggressive posturing. personally I think all that aggression and staring down the opponent is pathetic and is better off in the bar room than a debate. obama was merely making notes. that seems to matter to simple minded people who want to see aggression.

He strikes me as a dangerous man. yes a good speaker when hes on message , but prone to radical statements. hes frighteningly slick and appears quite ruthless. I dont think he has to worry about the 47% working class as he wouldnt relate to most of them imho....romney won this battle, but he will probably lose the war

[arista]

Surely you've got to have a sort of arrogance when trying to go against the reigning president.


Not if you made so many
Americans UnEmployed
and got America in a mess.
He's had 4 years
he can talk but does the Wrong Things

[Brother Leon]

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Ron Paul tbh :worship:

[lostalex]

ron paul is a homophobic gun nut.

[the truth]

Not if you made so many
Americans UnEmployed
and got America in a mess.
He's had 4 years
he can talk but does the Wrong Things

america was already in a phenomenal mess. he arrived to 11 trillion debts, with another 2 more trillion need to bail the banks, a trillion to save the autom motor industries and a trillion to save healthcare, thats before you even consider 2 unwinnable , partly illegal wars? also th efact america (and the UK) had become the most hated on the planet, thta is also a factor which cannot be ignored as you try to build relations worldwide in trade, peace deals, war, etc

the uemployment rate looks to be down to 7.9/8.1% as will be shown friday
but the fundamentals are better as obama has made massively brave responsible moral decisions and investments, in roads, industries, in regulating banks and real estate, plus exiting iraq and slowly exiting afghanistan, retail sales are way up year on year over the last 3 years, plus saving the motor car industries, increasing exportsand raising the level of the down jones to a 9 year high. also the fact is 40 to 50 million more poor americans now have a basic level of healthcare , this goes for pre-existing conditions too. that is beyond enormous. he has stated clearly where 4 trillion savings are expected to come. he is reducing military spending by 2 trillion less than romney, hes scrapped the most unproductive government projects such as buying out dated weapons and helicopters....hes shed a lot of over burocratised inefficient government jobs....hes also given up the europe wide defense system too....stem cell reaserch has had more money and hes invested in new energies....brave, clean optimistic choice that will benefit america in the long term

[the truth]

ron paul is a homophobic gun nut.

do you care about anything other than gay rights? grow up. theres far greater struggles in this crazy world

[Roy Mars III]

Omg! He's another Bush. People never learn, do they? :bored:

hes not

[Roy Mars III]

Ron Paul is great about some thing but some of his opinions are bat**** crazy

[MTVN]

I was quite disappointed the audience had to be silent for the debate last night actually, I liked all the whooping and cheering they had for the Republican debates

[the truth]

I was quite disappointed the audience had to be silent for the debate last night actually, I liked all the whooping and cheering they had for the Republican debates

no its always total silence for presidential debates and thank goodness for that, theres enough hysterical screaming and nonsense at the conventions to last a lifetime

[lostalex]

do you care about anything other than gay rights? grow up. theres far greater struggles in this crazy world

umm, yes, the fact that millions of people still don't have their basic civil rights IS VERY important to me. It might not be a big deal to you cause your not gay, but when someone tries to take you're rights away i'd like to see what YOU have to say.

How DARE you tell me that me being EQUAL is just a TRIVIAL issue.

[Roy Mars III]

my favourite parts of those debates is good old Ron winning them in the text and online polls an Fox News passing if off like they must have been hacked or something

[Brother Leon]

ron paul is a homophobic gun nut.

You made a thread supporting a woman who spoke at a rally supporting a nation that bombed the **** out of civilians killing children amongst many adults. I therefore can no longer take you seriously tbh.

[lostalex]

You made a thread supporting a woman who spoke at a rally supporting a nation that bombed the **** out of civilians killing children amongst many adults. I therefore can no longer take you seriously tbh.

wtf are you talking about? wait, am i actually engaging in a conversation with a KIM KARDASHIAN FAN?? :rolleyes:

[the truth]

umm, yes, the fact that millions of people still don't have their basic civil rights IS VERY important to me. It might not be a big deal to you cause your not gay, but when someone tries to take you're rights away i'd like to see what YOU have to say.

yet you ignore the other people discriminated against, the vast array of other major topics, the abuses in care homes, in hospitals, the disabled, the elderly, the political , police, media corruption, the DNR' used on defenceless disabled people without even consulting the person or the next of kin, you dont say anything about illegal wars, such as iraq, the fact the uk owes $.8.9 trillion in debt and america owes $16 trillion, the rise in extremism, terrorism, the discrimination against men and husbands and fathers, the rise in male suicides (in hetrosexual men) you show no interest in these areas, you show no balance and clearly therefore you do not want equality at all, you just to harp on some bitter narrow agenda about gay rights, when gay people already have all the rights they need. time you started caring about other people , just your own narrow self interest and selfish agendas. its pathetic.

[lostalex]

yet you ignore the other people discriminated against, the vast array of other major topics, the abuses in care homes, in hospitals, the disabled, the elderly, the political , police, media corruption, the DNR' used on defenceless disabled people without even consulting the person or the next of kin, you dont say anything about illegal wars, such as iraq, the fact the uk owes $.8.9 trillion in debt and america owes $16 trillion, the rise in extremism, terrorism, the discrimination against men and husbands and fathers, the rise in male suicides (in hetrosexual men) you show no interest in these areas, you show no balance and clearly therefore you do not want equality at all, you just to harp on some bitter narrow agenda about gay rights, when gay people already have all the rights they need. time you started caring about other people , just your own narrow self interest and selfish agendas. its pathetic.

sorry, umm, how am i ignoring all of those other things? wtf are you talking about? i've never ignored any of those other issues. Now you're just a liar.

[the truth]

You made a thread supporting a woman who spoke at a rally supporting a nation that bombed the **** out of civilians killing children amongst many adults. I therefore can no longer take you seriously tbh.

dont waste time with this lost alex, the name clearly implies what is lost. he supports such disgusting people, he thinks 300 million guns across america killing thousands of innocents is fine (and tens of thousands of injured) he laughs when straight men get hurt , he wants iran bombed , hes a radical hate filled bigot

[the truth]

sorry, umm, how am i ignoring all of those other things? wtf are you talking about? i've never ignored any of those other issues. Now you're just a liar.

you use all your negative energy to post your biased gay agenda yetyou spend a minute amount of time protecting all these other victims worldwide. totally biased and selfish agenda. heck you dont even show joy when all gay people have all the same martial legal rights as hetrosexual couples. do you want peace and happiness>? or do you simply want to pursue youre agendas of hatred against hetrosexual men? ps did you go on the other thread about the wife who shot her husband? do you condone her behaviour or condemn it?

[lostalex]

dont waste time with this lost alex, the name clearly implies what is lost. he supports such disgusting people, he thinks 300 million guns across america killing thousands of innocents is fine (and tens of thousands of injured) he laughs when straight men get hurt , he wants iran bombed , hes a radical hate filled bigot

but at least i make sense...i'm actually able to discuss topics in a rational way. You on the other hand just keep repeating the same BS you read off the internet. Unlike you I can actually think for myself and form my own opinions.

[Livia]

dont waste time with this lost alex, the name clearly implies what is lost. he supports such disgusting people, he thinks 300 million guns across america killing thousands of innocents is fine (and tens of thousands of injured) he laughs when straight men get hurt , he wants iran bombed , hes a radical hate filled bigot

You're not actually here to discuss other forum members. Read the rules.

[Marc]

Give it a rest the truth

[lostalex]

You're not actually here to discuss other forum members. Read the rules.


I appreciate you defending me Livia, but don't worry, let them spout the same conspiracy theories they always do. It doesn't bother me. I'm just a part of the illuminati evil gay agenda sheep. LOL



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http://frigginlaser.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/eminem_illuminati.jpg

[lostalex]

I am the illuminati and we will destroy you!!! ooooh oogie boogie!!! :rolleyes:

[Brother Leon]

wtf are you talking about? wait, am i actually engaging in a conversation with a KIM KARDASHIAN FAN?? :rolleyes:

Do your research on your beloved Hilary Clinton then.

[lostalex]

Do your research on your beloved Hilary Clinton then.

and which conspiracy website would you like me to look at that will tell me the REAL truth about Hillary?

Or would you actually like to bring up a specific decision she's made that you disagree with and talk about it like rational human beings?

[Brother Leon]

and which conspiracy website would you like me to look at that will tell me the REAL truth about Hillary?

Or would you actually like to bring up a specific decision she's made that you disagree with and talk about it like rational human beings?

Conspiriacy theory?

It's no conspicriacy her policies and opinions on the Iraq war,Israel-Lebanon conflict,Iran's nuclear power and now Syra are a joke and outrageous. It's pretty clear you only like her as she supports same sex marriage, which fair enough is a good thing but apart from that she would be out of her depth as President. Worse than Bush perhaps even.

[lostalex]

Conspiriacy theory?

It's no conspicriacy her policies and opinions on the Iraq war,Israel-Lebanon conflict,Iran's nuclear power and now Syra are a joke and outrageous. It's pretty clear you only like her as she supports same sex marriage, which fair enough is a good thing but apart from that she would be out of her depth as President. Worse than Bush perhaps even.

umm, hate to break the news, but Hillary does not support same-sex marriage. She's always been against same-sex marriage on the federal level and said that it should be a states-rights issue. Please show me when Hillary has EVER supported gay marriage federally...?

I WISH she supported gay marriage.

[arista]

60Million watched it last night
the Denver paper says Romney 1
The President 0.

23 Million Out Of Work under him

Ref: Ch4News

Its Good Romney
told the Out Going President (I hope),
direct , to stop putting out Falsehoods.

[Mystic Mock]

Romney is in a nutcase Party, he should not be President of America.

[arista]

Barack is the Nutcase



Get him Out.



1 On 1

We viewed Barack failed in the live debate.

[King Gizzard]

I'd probably want Barack over Mitt even if I was a republican

Such a tool

[Mystic Mock]

Obama's just dull and lackluster as President, Mitt Romney and his Party are insane.

[Brother Leon]

umm, hate to break the news, but Hillary does not support same-sex marriage. She's always been against same-sex marriage on the federal level and said that it should be a states-rights issue. Please show me when Hillary has EVER supported gay marriage federally...?

I WISH she supported gay marriage.

*sigh*

MudnsExyV78

Anyone could see she supports it, she is just too scared to make an actual comment on it and to come out and actually say the words in case it effects her presidential campaign.




Back on topic, I don't really care who wins, America's politics will always be the same. Romney is **** and Obama promised so much and went back on half the **** he promised.

[King Gizzard]

Vices tonight

[the truth]

isnt hilary partly respnsible for the american embassy in libya disaster?

[Kizzy]

The poll on the daily politics at the conservative party conference was funny...
Some tories were very honest in their views, and then you have Reese Mogg....''he has a conservative perspective., of course my vote goes to mitt''
Not just blinkered, but totally blind devotion to an ideology touted by fools for fools imo.

[the truth]

The poll on the daily politics at the conservative party conference was funny...
Some tories were very honest in their views, and then you have Reese Mogg....''he has a conservative perspective., of course my vote goes to mitt''
Not just blinkered, but totally blind devotion to an ideology touted by fools for fools imo.

its the "of course" bit that disturbs the most

the trouble with the left in the past few years is they havent managed to verbally sell socialism or left wing policies, why? they cant seem to construct a vision that promotes redistribution, regulation corprate companies and monopolies and stimulates small business

why arent they selling it? if one was super cynical youd guess the rich put up blair, brown as fall guys to kill socialism.

[MTVN]

2nd debate just starting now

[MTVN]

Romney looks awkward shuffling out to stand in the middle of the floor, they should just say on their stools

[Mystic Mock]

Come on Obama.

[Novo]

Come on Rominator

[Roy Mars III]

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/content/2012/0910-romney-healthcare-meet-the-press/13711521-1-eng-US/0910-Romney-healthcare-meet-the-press_full_600.jpg

[BBfanUSA]

Romney's Scared. I can feel it. He's interrupting the moderator, he's trying to stay on the topics Obama has screwed up on.

[Roy Mars III]

he knows these debates are his only chance, even if it is a small one

[MTVN]

The moderator is an Obama supporter, wants him to have the first and last word

[Roy Mars III]

it's CNN no surprise

[BBfanUSA]

I saw in the USA today (This was a surprise) in swing states more women want to vote for Romney than Obama.

[Mystic Mock]

Im not that surprised tbh as on a generalization women are more likely to vote for a right wing party than a guy is I think.

[BBfanUSA]

Okay can Romney and Obama stop interrupting Candy? She's the ****ing moderator. I would love for mods to have airhorns in order to calm people down.

has this been posted here yet?
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/254659_242261332566010_2135592032_n.jpg

[Locke.]

Barack is killing this guy

[Mystic Mock]

Just like Cece Frey kills both in the looks and charm department lol.

[Locke.]

Why did he need a card to have a question as basic as that written down on

[billy123]

Barack is killing this guy
Far from it i cant help but feel he looks out of his depth.
He will win the election but he is far too uncomfortable to listen to criticism from anybody his interjecting about timekeeping in the debate just then was very telling.

[Locke.]

Barack is just playing with Romney. Look at him, he's having the time of his life right now

[billy123]

There he goes again he cant take it.
Very poor restraint.

[Locke.]

"I don't look at my pension it's not as big as yours so it doesn't take as long. I don't check it that often."

Kills him again :worship:

[billy123]

"I don't look at my pension it's not as big as yours so it doesn't take as long. I don't check it that often."

Kills him again :worship:How would he know that if he hadnt studied both his own and Romneys? or did he just make it up to win a bitchpoint? either way he was dishonest.
Hollow nothing but a childish retort is that what people are supposed to base their vote on really! both these guys are pretty pathetic.
It would be funny if these numptys werent so intent on war.

Both Muppets dancing to the tune of the federal reserve they are the real leaders.

[Roy Mars III]

still like Obama more of the two of course, but he has grown too arrogant

[Locke.]

Romney thought he had it in the bag before over that act of terror quote.. poor guy had his facts all wrong in the end

[Mystic Mock]

How would he know that if he hadnt studied both his own and Romneys? or did he just make it up to win a bitchpoint? either way he was dishonest.
Hollow nothing but a childish retort is that what people are supposed to base their vote on really! both these guys are pretty pathetic.
It would be funny if these numptys werent so intent on war.

Both Muppets dancing to the tune of the federal reserve they are the real leaders.

I agree that both politicians are behaving like children, just like over here they have got two joke of a candidates, im still waiting for the real candidates to start showing themselves over here.:joker:

[Novo]

Step up Mock

[Mystic Mock]

Step up Mock

Yeah but then I would have to do as one of those stupid parties say, plus I would only be good at law & order and be **** at everything else.:joker:

[SharkAttack]

These debates really are pathetic.

[Mystic Mock]

These debates really are pathetic.

You haven't seen pathetic until you see the ones in the UK.

[billy123]

I agree that both politicians are behaving like children, just like over here they have got two joke of a candidates, im still waiting for the real candidates to start showing themselves over here.:joker:
It frightens me its like kids scrapping in the playground while the adults sit inside unelected and untouchable making the decisions that really effect the years ahead and yes that includes the UK party leaders as much as the US candidates.

"Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Amschel Rothschild 1744-1812
^^ He knew and his family still control things to this day.

[Shaun]

CNN's post-debate poll gives it to Obama by 46% to 39%.

Hmm. 15% is an awful lot of undecideds. Surely at this stage in the game you'd either know which party you prefer, or know yourself to be above this whole partisan system and have affirmed yourself as a non-voter

[BBfanUSA]

Obama for sure kicked butt in Round 2.

[the truth]

The empire strikes back, obama owned romney this time around. he wasway more detailed and specific and had a joined up reasoned argument on every topic....romney is just a load of contradicting sweeping statements, but when he gets down to detail and policy, he makes absolutely no sense

the fact he keeps say how awesome he was running massuchusettes, is laughable, hes 20% behind in massuchusettes, thats how much they love him...hes flip flopping on everything from abortion to taxation to healthcare....his foreign policy is a joke, hes just a voice piece for fox news now, theres nothing left of the original mitt romney

[Shaun]

The internet's having a field day with Romney's "5 step plan" nonsense that no one knows.

[Vanessa]

Obama! What a legend! :worship::worship::worship:

[Brother Leon]

Obama was better this time, but seemed to be lecturing everyone, while although Romney was charting pure **** he was at least talking to us. Lol

[the truth]

Obama was better this time, but seemed to be lecturing everyone, while although Romney was charting pure **** he was at least talking to us. Lol

good , people need to be lectured too

I love obama and what I lovemost about him, is that ultimately he wants to get past all this poison and finger pointing and he actually does want a fairer more balanced cleaner healther better america and better world.....the naysayers, the 24 hour news sickos who create controversy every minute of their sad lives, do not want a better peaceful world. all they care about is todays sensationalized headlines. obama has a long game. hes a great man and you can just tell he will be glad when this blame game nonsense is all over and he can go back to rebuilding america

[the truth]

Obama! What a legend! :worship::worship::worship:

even when hes angry hes cool as heck
at one point he said to romney about the libyan embassy attacks,

"I said in the rose garden its an act of terror, to think myself or any of my staff would wish to play politics or mislead when weve lost 4 of our own, is offensive".

romney duly tried to contradict him and say o bama had never said it was an act of terror for 14 days after the attack, obama cool as heck says, please proceed, read the transcript...

BACK OF THE NET

[Vanessa]

even when hes angry hes cool as heck
at one point he said to romney about the libyan embassy attacks,

"I said in the rose garden its an act of terror, to think myself or any of my staff would wish to play politics or mislead when weve lost 4 of our own, is offensive".

If i was american i'd vote Obama. I don't like Romney at all. :dance:

[MTVN]

Last one now, should be the best one

[Locke.]

****, didn't think it started til 4

[Mystic Mock]

Obama to kick his ass.

[MTVN]

These two are just as annoying as each other

[Maia]

Romney is a great chap he should win

[Locke.]

Don't be so bloody absurd, he has stolen the Friday Night Lights slogan

[Shaun]

Romney is a great chap he should win

not even worth joking about

[Novo]

Don't be so bloody absurd, he has stolen the Friday Night Lights slogan

What did he say? :joker:

[Locke.]

What did he say? :joker:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/friday-night-lights-creator-accuses-378606

[Novo]

Only Coach is allowed to say that

[Shaun]

only thing this debate seems likely to do is make democrats more blue and republicans more red... a whole debate devoted to foreign policy seems ridiculous at this stage

[Shaun]

referring to Pakistan falling apart with nuclear weapons as if it's a Fallout game

[Locke.]

The guy who is supposed to be in control of them both was the best before

"What would you do if they phoned up and said our bombers are on their way to your country"

[Shaun]

oh I thought he asked them what they'd do if Israel said they were bombing Iran :laugh: not the US

[Shaun]

'lets move on to china...........what do you think is the greatest national security threat to this country?'

well the moderator's a nice old sinophobe.

[Locke.]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcbpuuA4yx1rooeymo1_500.jpg

[lostalex]

'lets move on to china...........what do you think is the greatest national security threat to this country?'

well the moderator's a nice old sinophobe.

also did you notice he slipped and said OBAMA bin laden when talking about osama bin laden? lol i love old people.

I think the line of the night went to Obama though. Romney was talking about increasing the military and that America had the least amount of ships since 1947 and he would build more ships.... Obama came back and said "yea, well our military also has less horses and bayonets" lol.

and he's right, it's like how is more ships going to help fight against muslim terrorists? The Islamaists don't have a navy, they hide in the freaking desert, so how would more ships help fight against terrorism?? lol

[Roy Mars III]

also did you notice he slipped and said OBAMA bin laden when talking about osama bin laden? lol i love old people.

I think the line of the night went to Obama though. Romney was talking about increasing the military and that America had the least amount of ships since 1947 and he would build more ships.... Obama came back and said "yea, well our military also has less horses and bayonets" lol.

and he's right, it's like how is more ships going to help fight against muslim terrorists? The Islamaists don't have a navy, they hide in the freaking desert, so how would more ships help fight against terrorism?? lol

I had a history professor do that last semester during a lecture. :joker:

everyone was cracking up

[the truth]

also did you notice he slipped and said OBAMA bin laden when talking about osama bin laden? lol i love old people.

I think the line of the night went to Obama though. Romney was talking about increasing the military and that America had the least amount of ships since 1947 and he would build more ships.... Obama came back and said "yea, well our military also has less horses and bayonets" lol.

and he's right, it's like how is more ships going to help fight against muslim terrorists? The Islamaists don't have a navy, they hide in the freaking desert, so how would more ships help fight against terrorism?? lol

I love how obama isnt sucked into the republicans radical zionist agenda too....obama is a friend to israel, but hesnot prepared to stoke up a war with iran...the way the republicans stoke up such a war is a disgrace and my jewish friends see right through it

[MTVN]

I did have to laugh at how Romney said he would indict Ahmadinejad on genocide charges, can't see that going well

[Roy Mars III]

Obama easily won this last one. Tbh though I don't totally hate some of Romney's domestic stuff he is terrible on foreign policy and would hate to have him representing my country to the world. Will vote for Obama for that alone