Who is the best BBBUS player ever?

[SoBig]

I think this is the top 3.

1. Dan (BB10 & BB14)

Hands down the best player ever.

Has the best resume of any to ever play the game.

Only player in the history of BB to win on a 7-0 vote.

Never had a vote cast against him in 2 seasons.

Made it to the finals in both seasons.

Had three different people use the power of veto on him.

2 of the greatest moves in BB history:

Dan's funeral.
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Nomination roulette
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2. Dr. Will

3. Danielle Reyes

[Ramsay]

dan's funeral :worship:

[rk3388]

Rachel Riley- best social and strategic game.
Nah, jks aside i think Dan definitely deserves that title, with danielle a second. I dont think anyone else gets close to those two tho

[Macie Lightfoot]

So basically this is just another thread for everyone to moan about how Dan was robbed and the GOAT or whatever the ****. Winning a 7-0 vote and nearly losing in a 7-0 vote kinda negate each other.

[swinearefine]

Jun Song > Dr Will > Dan

[SoBig]

So basically this is just another thread for everyone to moan about how Dan was robbed and the GOAT or whatever the ****. Winning a 7-0 vote and nearly losing in a 7-0 vote kinda negate each other.
So are you going to just troll and add nothing of substance to this thread?

[SoBig]

Jun Song > Dr Will > Dan
Blasphemy. Not even in the top 5.

[Macie Lightfoot]

So are you going to just troll and add nothing of substance to this thread?

I wasn't trolling. This is just another countless thread for you to complain about how Dan was robbed despite the fact that he almost lost the jury vote unanimously (lol)

[Roy Mars III]

Dr. Will and it's not even close

http://i.imgur.com/jVL50.jpg?7597

[Roy Mars III]

Jun is one of the better winners, but as SoBig said, not in the top five

[Marc]

So you started this thread just to praise Dan basically :laugh:

[reece(:]

1. Dr Will 2. Danielle Reyes 3. Dan 4. Jun Song 5. Dick

[LemonJam]

Top 20 in no order:

Will
Monica
Lisa
Danielle (Season 3 Game)
Jason
Jun
Drew
Nakomis (Season 5 Game)
Maggie
Ivette
Mike (Season 7 Game)
Adam (S9)
Sheila
Dan (Season 10 Game)
Natalie (S11)
Kevin
Hayden
Lane
Porsche
Ian

I'm glad I haven't seen anyone say Kaysar yet.

[Raph]

This man.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb8t75vxxh1rf03kio1_500.gif

[Macie Lightfoot]

Top 20 in no order:

Will
Monica
Lisa
Danielle (Season 3 Game)
Jason
Jun
Drew
Nakomis (Season 5 Game)
Maggie
Ivette
Mike (Season 7 Game)
Adam (S9)
Sheila
Dan (Season 10 Game)
Natalie (S11)
Kevin
Hayden
Lane
Porsche
Ian

I'm glad I haven't seen anyone say Kaysar yet.

Definitely the most accurate list posted thus far.

[rk3388]

Well dan placed better than dr will overall and thats a fact. Therefore. I think dan deserves the title over dr will, and he also played great when people were more aware of gameplaying

[rk3388]

1. Dr Will 2. Danielle Reyes 3. Dan 4. Jun Song 5. Dick

Ughh i dont even think dick was a good gameplayer , americas player saved him, or else he would have been out the first half of the game

[Roy Mars III]

Well dan placed better than dr will overall and thats a fact. Therefore. I think dan deserves the title over dr will, and he also played great when people were more aware of gameplaying

Jordan is the third best placed player, so I guess she is third.

Will played against better people overall actually. Nicole is one of the most underrated players ever and would have cleaned up in any other season.

People from BB10 and 14 (especially) were two of the worst casts in terms of gameplay ever

Dr. Will would have played 14 by making even crazier and ruthless moves as Dan and found a way to win if he was in the final 2

[SoBig]

Jordan is the third best placed player, so I guess she is third.

Will played against better people overall actually. Nicole is one of the most underrated players ever and would have cleaned up in any other season.

People from BB10 and 14 (especially) were two of the worst casts in terms of gameplay ever

Dr. Will would have played 14 by making even crazier and ruthless moves as Dan and found a way to win if he was in the final 2
I strongly disagree. The game was new in BB2. 99% of the players did not understand what was happening. Was Nicole a good player? Yeah, but look at who she was up against. A bunch of Ashley's and Joe's. Mike Boogie sucked his first time around and so did the rest of players outside of Hardy, Will and Nicole.

The BB10 cast was average, but the BB14 cast was great. Very comparable to if not better than the allstars' cast. Kaysar, Howie, Erika, Chicken George, Jase and Marcellas? Really?

Dr. Will would had to be up against a previous winner to have a shot at winning if he was in this season. The newbies in this season was dead set against letting a coach win.


Dr. Will would have played 14 by making even crazier and ruthless moves as Dan and found a way to win if he was in the final 2
Disagree.

Nothing tops the funeral, getting Danielle to use the veto and then booting her showmance and getting two people to throw the first part of the final HOH.

Dr. Will couldn't even get his flirtmance to not vote him out at the final 4. :joker::joker::joker::joker:

Jordan is the third best placed player, so I guess she is third.
But we know that Jordan is not at that level.

[SoBig]

Top 20 in no order:

Will
Monica
Lisa
Danielle (Season 3 Game)
Jason
Jun
Drew
Nakomis (Season 5 Game)
Maggie
Ivette
Mike (Season 7 Game)
Adam (S9)
Sheila
Dan (Season 10 Game)
Natalie (S11)
Kevin
Hayden
Lane
Porsche
Ian

I'm glad I haven't seen anyone say Kaysar yet.
Eric Stein and Janelle are in the top 20.

[Jords]

Dont understand the nomination roulette thing?

[Macie Lightfoot]

SoBig thinking Janelle's one of the top 20 players of all times :joker:

[LemonJam]

Eric Stein and Janelle are in the top 20.

Eric's kind of difficult to rank because it's obvious he was a great manipulator but he didn't really get to play his own game, so I left him out.

[reece(:]

She didn't get 3rd place twice by doing nothing.

[LemonJam]

Dont understand the nomination roulette thing?

Basically, Dan told everyone to say a certain persons name when he asks them a question at the veto ceremony. Then they all say the names he told them to say in an attempt to make them pissed off at each other and take the target off of him.

I always thought it did more harm to his game than good, but considering he won I don't think it hurt him too badly. :p

[Macie Lightfoot]

Janelle's a good competitor, that's how she got 3rd place twice. You factor in the fact that she's a **** strategist, it cancels each other out and she's nothing special.

And basically Veto Roulette was one of Dan's "brilliant" game moves that is in fact overrated and filled with useless theatrics.

[LemonJam]

She didn't get 3rd place twice by doing nothing.

I thought about putting her in for her BB7 game because I think she would've killed it if she made the finals with Erika but... the amount of dumb dumb dumb moves she made that Season was staggering, so I decided against it.

[Raph]

Hey, even as Dan's biggest fan on here, I think Nominations Roulette wasn't that great at all. He's a phenomenal player but that move was just over-dramatized theatrics.

[SoBig]

Dont understand the nomination roulette thing?
He wanted to cause chaos amongst the house guest. So that all the heat wouldn't be on his back.
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[SoBig]

Janelle's a good competitor, that's how she got 3rd place twice. You factor in the fact that she's a **** strategist, it cancels each other out and she's nothing special.
Ian is not as good as Janelle and lemon listed him in the top 20. He isn't the competitor that Janelle is and is just as bad of a strategist and is easily manipulated. Dan and Britney worked him like a puppet.

[rk3388]

And the reason i didnt count jordan as part of my higher placed therefore obviously equal better gameplayers, is because grodner saved her both times she played but she didnt do anything to save dan. That being said, i do thknk jordans social game is highly underrated on here

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ian is not as good as Janelle and he lemon listed him in the top 20. He isn't the competitor that Janelle is and is just as bad of a strategist and is easily manipulated. Dan and Britney worked him like a puppet.

Okay? I never said Lemon's list was perfect, just that it's the overall most accurate one (which it is.)

[LemonJam]

And the reason i didnt count jordan as part of my higher placed therefore obviously equal better gameplayers, is because grodner saved her both times she played but she didnt do anything to save dan. That being said, i do thknk jordans social game is highly underrated on here

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[Marc]

Will, Jun, Dan, Janelle, Nakomis

all for different reasons

[Roy Mars III]

I strongly disagree. The game was new in BB2. 99% of the players did not understand what was happening. Was Nicole a good player? Yeah, but look at who she was up against. A bunch of Ashley's and Joe's. Mike Boogie sucked his first time around and so did the rest of players outside of Hardy, Will and Nicole.

The BB10 cast was average, but the BB14 cast was great. Very comparable to if not better than the allstars' cast. Kaysar, Howie, Erika, Chicken George, Jase and Marcellas? Really?

Nicole, Howie, Danielle, and James were better than anyone in 10 or 14 besides Dan.

Dr. Will would had to be up against a previous winner to have a shot at winning if he was in this season. The newbies in this season was dead set against letting a coach win.

Dr. Will would have found a way to still win even against a newbi


Disagree.

Nothing tops the funeral, getting Danielle to use the veto and then booting her showmance and getting two people to throw the first part of the final HOH.

Dr. Will couldn't even get his flirtmance to not vote him out at the final 4. :joker::joker::joker::joker:

Dan has nothing on Will in terms of manipulation. Dan made many stupid moves this season. He was too obvious and aggressive, he should have taken a more behind the scenes approach.

I know the newbies say they would never have voted for a vet, but if Dan had played perfectly he could have gotten them too, in my opinion.


But we know that Jordan is not at that level.

I was making a point, that placing is not everything

[SoBig]

Nicole, Howie, Danielle, and James were better than anyone in 10 or 14 besides Dan.

Danielle? No doubt. Nicole? Arguably. James and Howie? ******** no. I'll take Memphis, Frank, Shane, Ian and Britney (she was a very good player this season until Dan ousted her.)


Dr. Will would have found a way to still win even against a newbi

Doubt it. I don't even think that he would have made it to the final 2. For crying out loud Erika convinced his flirtmance to vote him out.


Dan has nothing on Will in terms of manipulation. Dan made many stupid moves this season. He was too obvious and aggressive, he should have taken a more behind the scenes approach.

He was very behind the scenes this season. He was pulling all the strings and no one knew until they were voted out. What stupid mistakes did Dan make? The only one I can think of was him telling Boogie that Danielle was going to vote Frank out after the reset happened, but he fixed it within in 2 day. The other one was probably not having enough vets in the jury. But that was Janelle and Boogie's own doing. Can't really fault Dan for that.


I know the newbies say they would never have voted for a vet, but if Dan had played perfectly he could have gotten them too, in my opinion.
Given the situation that he was in he did play close to a perfect game. I don't see Dr. Will topping what Dan did this season.

Danielle Reyes, James Rhine, Matt Hoffman etc. all have said that Dan is a better player than Dr. Will. Both James and Danielle played with Will. So I'll take their word for it.

[SoBig]

The jury this season was terrible. Shane said in an interview on Saturday that Dan didn't deserve to win, because Ian won more competitions. Danielle agreed and said that Ian was just as strategic. :joker:

Jenn wanted someone new to win. Same with Joe and Ashley.

That's how terrible the jury was this year.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Right, not Dan's fault at all that he backstabbed everyone and made everyone hate him. Not like a jury is reactionary to the events that happened. Nope :)

[Donovan.]

No particular order.

Maggie
Dan
Danielle
Will
Nicole
Jun
Mike

[rk3388]

i dont even think mike was a good gameplayer -_- hes just dr.wills little sidekick, and when he finally played alone what a surprise, he was a pre jury boot

[reece(:]

Mike wasn't a good player at all.

[LemonJam]

srsly are y'all trippin.

[SoBig]

Mike sucked hardcore in BB14. Dan, Britney, Shane and Ian all had him completely fooled from the start. He was just as bad as he was in BB2.

[LemonJam]

oh yeah he failed completely in 2/14 but he played a great game in 7.

[Donovan.]

Winning an ALL STAR season I just felt like I had to mention him.

[SharkAttack]

Dan = Dr. Will for all intents...

Top two so far, imho. Both played and won, and both nearly won it again after the general knowledge of their existence in the game. :joker: When someone actually does win it twice, they'll be the best. :dance:

IMHO :suspect:

[SharkAttack]

Sidenote: see: Brian Dowling

[Roy Mars III]

Mike played great in season 7

[Donovan.]

^ I thought so...

[Roy Mars III]

liked how you included Maggie as well. She was always a great manipulator, my problem with her though was she always denied manipulating people and actually playing the game

[Donovan.]

Yeah, I never understood why she wouldn't just own it.

[reece(:]

Maggie whining about people having no morals all the time when she had none herself did my head in!

[lostalex]

1. Danielle s3 Brilliant strategist, her only downfall was the jury being shown her diary room footage. By far my favorite player to watch.

2. Will s2 First winner of the new rules system, it was a brand new game, and he figured out how to play that game very quickly. i couldn't stand his personality, but he set the bar for the game forever. He's definitely a BB legend, can't take that away from him.

3. Jordan s11 Won purely based on her winning personality. Anyone who can win without any strategy and any effort is surely great. She's just an amazing person who everyone liked, gotta love her.


(just for the record if it was top 5: 4. Jun, and 5. Dan)

[Donovan.]

3. Jordan s11 Anyone who can win without any strategy and any effort is surely great. She's just an amazing person who everyone liked, gotta love her.

Yes! :love:

[SoBig]

1. Danielle s3 Brilliant strategist, her only downfall was the jury being shown her diary room footage. By far my favorite player to watch.

2. Will s2 First winner of the new rules system, it was a brand new game, and he figured out how to play that game very quickly. i couldn't stand his personality, but he set the bar for the game forever. He's definitely a BB legend, can't take that away from him.

3. Jordan s11 Won purely based on her winning personality. Anyone who can win without any strategy and any effort is surely great. She's just an amazing person who everyone liked, gotta love her.


(just for the record if it was top 5: 4. Jun, and 5. Dan)
:eek: :joker:

She made it far both times, because of rigging.

[SoBig]

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2822/redhawksvssaltlake08150.jpg

[Roy Mars III]

I've been looking for that picture forever :worship: saw it on sucks a while ago but could never find it again

[Macie Lightfoot]

3. Jordan s11 Won purely based on her winning personality. Anyone who can win without any strategy and any effort is surely great. She's just an amazing person who everyone liked, gotta love her.

Uh... no. Jordan's actually evil and may be one of the worst people to ever grace reality TV.

[lostalex]

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2822/redhawksvssaltlake08150.jpg

eww, wtf did will do to his face? tons of botox and fillers, and it looks like he smeared vaseline all over his face.

[rk3388]

Uh... no. Jordan's actually evil and may be one of the worst people to ever grace reality TV.

:idc:

[Raph]

Angie gives Dan a run for his money.

[Roy Mars III]

eww, wtf did will do to his face? tons of botox and fillers, and it looks like he smeared vaseline all over his face.

he is the best looking big brother housemate ever

[lostalex]

he is the best looking big brother housemate ever

no way. Nick from BB8 was the hottest.

http://oddandstupid.com/BB8/Nick/1082862384_l.jpg

[Roy Mars III]

his facial hair was terrible

[lostalex]

his facial hair was terrible

i didn't mind his goatee as much as the mohawk. Self styled mohawks never work, you gotta get a professional to do a decent one. He looked so much better with long hair.

before:

http://ilovereality.com/Bigbrother/Bb8/images/BB8-282-F2-July-08-2007.jpg



after:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nrxfN0UAkf0/Rq6sSfd7ztI/AAAAAAAABTs/GC-HqWaliRY/s400/nickdani822pm.bmp

[Macie Lightfoot]

:idc:

Well it's true. The girl's ****ing nuts and her delusional sense of self-entitlement is disgusting. Having to listen to her the whole summer complain about how Porsche is just a useless floater (lol on so many levels) when she herself did nothing was just too much.