Frankie Boyle sues The Mirror for libel after they brand him a 'racist'

[Jack_]

Frankie Boyle sues Mirror over 'racism' claim

Comedian Frankie Boyle is suing the Mirror newspaper for libel, over an article which labelled him racist.

He is complaining about a story published on 19 July 2011, saying he was in talks for a new Channel 4 show.

The first sentence read: "RACIST comedian Frankie Boyle could soon be returning to TV despite upsetting thousands of viewers".

The Mirror said it will defend itself "on the basis of truth and fair comment".

The trial, which is taking place at the High Court in London, is expected to last a week.

Boyle's lawyer told the court that the newspaper had also defamed his client, by asserting he had been "forced to quit" the BBC comedy show Mock The Week.

His barrister, David Sherborne, said that to call someone "racist" was "obviously defamatory".

Mr Sherborne said Boyle's humour was "deliberately challenging".

Controversial humour

He said the comic did not object to being criticised but did object to being described as racist.

"Saying 'vile' or 'offensive', or his material is 'vile' or 'offensive', is one thing," Mr Sherborne told the jury.

"He realises that that goes with the territory, so to speak. But accusing him of being a racist is an entirely different matter."

Mr Sherborne added: "You can call him 'offensive', you can call him 'tasteless'. That's fine. But he is not racist."

The Glasgow-born comedian's humour has often proved controversial with audiences.

Last year, broadcasting watchdog Ofcom upheld more than 500 complaints about his Channel 4 show Tramadol nights, during which he joked about Katie Price's disabled son, Harvey.

Ofcom ruled that the joke appeared to "target and mock the mental and physical disabilities" of the then eight year-old.

In 2008, the BBC apologised when Boyle made a joke about Palestine on the Radio 4 comedy show Political Animal.

Break from Twitter

A year after that, BBC Two's Mock The Week was criticised by the BBC Trust over comments Boyle made on the show about swimmer Rebecca Adlington's appearance.

As yet, The Mirror has not removed the article about Boyle from its website.

A paragraph added to the top of the story reads: "Frankie Boyle is taking legal proceedings against us for the description of him as a 'racist comedian'. He claims it is untrue and defamatory. We are defending this claim on the basis of truth and fair comment.

"We are also defending his claim that we libelled him by suggesting that 'he was forced to quit Mock the Week' in 2009."

Boyle's lawyer said any suggestion his client was forced to leave the show was "completely untrue".

Boyle has taken a temporary respite from Twitter, telling his followers: "I'm afraid I must disappear from Twitter for a while. See you on the other side of this thing."

BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19950407)

I think the bit in bold is particularly true...

Frankie Boyle: 'Racism at heart of UK government policy'

Frankie Boyle has today said that racism is ''at the heart'' of British Government policy, and claimed that his Channel 4 show Tramadol Nights was meant as "ridiculous, over the top nihilism".

Boyle said that he felt it was "important" to highlight the issue of racism in society by mocking the racists that he "despised" in comedy routines.

He said that his jokes about immigration were meant as a parody of "racism at the heart of British policy", and claimed that they had been taken out of context by the papers.

"I think one of the things about comedy is it's easy to read stories in the papers and think it's a terrible thing for someone to have said but when you see it in the context of the show it can be more easily explained," he said.

Boyle is suing Mirror Group Newspapers, publisher of The Mirror, over an article in the paper last year about Channel 4 considering commissioning a new show featuring the comic.

However, lawyers for MGN have denied that he was defamed by being described as a "racist comedian", and claimed that Boyle exploits negative stereotypes of black people for ''cheap laughs''.

Jurors in the case were today shown footage of an episode of BBC Two show Mock the Week in which Boyle discussed immigration.

In response, the comic said that he was "pretending" to have racist views for the episode, and insisted that he felt it "important" to mock people who actually think like that.

''I don't think British people are racist. I think it is a top down thing. I think you have a lot of rich and Conservative people who control our country who are racist and their views trickle down through things like tabloid papers," he said.

He added: ''I think there is racism at the heart of British policy and has been both in Labour and Conservative times.''

Asked about why he used the word "n***er" on an episode of his Channel 4 show Tramadol Nights, Boyle replied: "Context is everything. If you use this at a dinner party to insult someone that would be a terrible hate crime. It's not a word I would use lightly."

Boyle has consistently denied claims that he left Mock the Week after making a controversial joke about swimmer Rebecca Adlington.

In court today, he expressed his surprise at the reaction, which included 75 complaints being lodged with the BBC, leading to an official rebuke from the BBC Trust.

"There was no malice in the jokes [about Adlington] in particular," he said. "I was really surprised by the Rebecca Adlington thing."

Later, Boyle added: "I had no idea Rebecca Adlington was as famous as she was or that she had been a huge success."

However, he again insisted that he was not sacked regarding the incident, a claim that was repeated in the Mirror article at the heart of the libel case.

"Absolutely not," he said when asked. "The idea you would be forced to quit the show for saying someone looks like they are looking in the back of a spoon, it just seems ridiculous because they just don't sack people on those panel shows."

The trial continues.

Digital Spy (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/news/a431136/frankie-boyle-racism-at-heart-of-uk-government-policy.html)

I hope he wins it. The fact that a comedian has to go to court to defend his jokes is quite frankly absurd.

[Omah]

IMO, Boyle is a talentless to$$er who appeals to the LCD in audience mentality - no doubt he would have gone down well in Nazi Germany ..... :yuk:

[the truth]

i hope he loses... him and jimmy carr abuse the so called free speech to go out of their way to offend minorities , where they think they can get away with it, didnt this idiot boyle laugh AT jordans disabled son harvey? didnt jimmy carr suggest the more british soldiers who get their legs blown off means more people can go for the paralympics? I have zero res[ect for this tastless attention seeking drivel....with cheap laughs and tastless mean spirited humour than mocks the victims. this has made them millions but there is a high price to pay for cheap laughs and sick humour that plays on victims, now theyl have to pay that price.... horrible people

[Shaun]

Crap comedian. Not a racist, though.

[the truth]

Crap comedian. Not a racist, though.

hes a bigot

[thesheriff443]

i like boyle, he is not the first comedian to push the boundries and wont be the last,
after watching him i dont run to get a pillow case.

[GypsyGoth]

Frankie Boyle seems to insult everyone in his jokes, I don't think he's a racist or a bigot.

[King Gizzard]

Who cares when he also does things like this

https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/257609084138823681

hero

[Tom4784]

He's a dull comedian but only a fool would think of him as a racist for his jokes.

[Jack_]

His X Factor tweets are hilarious.

On Union J:

Yeah, you keep bleeding because you're *****s #xfactor

You could sell out the O2 tomorrow if it was a public hanging #xfactor

On Kye:

I hope the next chimney this ***** goes up is in a crematorium #XFactor

:laugh3:

[King Gizzard]

I don't think he's necessarily a great comedian he's just not scared to make the jokes other people wouldn't..controversy = fans

[the truth]

this is just the tip of the boyle iceberg, a disgusting bigotted unfunny horror of a human being. if a kid said any of these things to a fellow pupil he would be expelled for bigotry and bullying, we should treat boyle foul vulgar abuse just the same way as an example to kids and adults. take it in any context you like its horrible

Apparently the Saudi Arabian Paralympic team is mainly thieves," he quipped.

Other tweets the Scottish funny man sent last night to his nearly one million followers included:

"Wow, Austrian Paralympians seem a lot more able-bodied than most regular Scottish people."
"Sadly our Paralympian in the high jump isn’t expected to match his personal best. But I hear it doesn’t count as it was ‘Taliban assisted’."
"Got to be weird being a British Paralympian under this government, knowing that a medal means you'll lose your Disability Living Allowance."
Seeing the Queen enter the stadium, Boyle said: "The Queen hasn't cracked a smile since Diana died."

The thing that nobody really said about Rebecca Adlington is that she looks pretty weird. She looks like someone who's looking at themselves in the back of a spoon."

He caused further offence by returning to the subject in the same show, saying: "When she arrived back on the flight she met her boyfriend. Did you see her boyfriend? He was really attractive. He was like a male model. So from that I have deduced that Rebecca Adlington is very dirty."


"I worry that Rebecca Adlington will have an unfair advantage in the swimming by possessing a dolphin's face."

[the truth]

I don't think he's necessarily a great comedian he's just not scared to make the jokes other people wouldn't..controversy = fans

hes a rubbish comedian........great comedians can make jokes about everything and get awya with it, if its funny enough....take larry david, mel brooks, jerry seinfeld, bill hicks, richard pryor, the list goes on....even chris rock gets away with it, simply because hes so darn funny....boyle simply isnt

[thesheriff443]

hes a rubbish comedian........great comedians can make jokes about everything and get awya with it, if its funny enough....take larry david, mel brooks, jerry seinfeld, bill hicks, richard pryor, the list goes on....even chris rock gets away with it, simply because hes so darn funny....boyle simply isnt

to be fair thats your opinion!
each to there own! next you be compareing him to habu hamza:joker:

[King Gizzard]

Whether he's a great comedian or not, it's entirely subjective

[Ammi]

..nobody can say whether he's funny or not..or whether any comedian is...it all depends on what you consider humour to be...

..I don't find him particularly funny but he's successful in his career, so obviously a lot of people do....

...funny or not, he isn't a racist...

[Livia]

He has made me laugh, and he's made me cringe. I can say that about a lot of comedians.

[Jack_]

"Got to be weird being a British Paralympian under this government, knowing that a medal means you'll lose your Disability Living Allowance."

What's wrong with that? It's a dig at the government which is exactly how he describes a lot of his jokes in the article in the OP.

And funnily enough...it's practically true.

[Ammi]

He has made me laugh, and he's made me cringe. I can say that about a lot of comedians.

...I can't think of a comedian who does make me laugh atm....they kind of just have the same old material and are so similar...

[the truth]

heres just a few snippets of his genius

they should have a speeding advert showing richard hammond trying to remember his wedding day 9said whilst he was fighting for his life)
the way they should have commemorated lady dianas life was by staging a gang bang in a minefield" etc

cheap mean tacky unfunny attention seeking trash

I consider him a bigot and a bully. I shall not dignify this bigot with anymore attention.

[MTVN]

I find him funny, as do a lot of other people evidently seeing as he's one of the most popular comedians atm, sure a lot of his humour's offensive but it's easy enough to avoid it

He's definitely not a racist either

[the truth]

...I can't think of a comedian who does make me laugh atm....they kind of just have the same old material and are so similar...

none of them are anecdotal like billy connolly in his pomp...we need anecdotale, honest self deprecating , brilliant observational comics....the greatest living comic is larry david, also steve coogan,george carlin, louis ck,dylan moran, seinfeld, lee evans,bill burr, rhod gilbert,garry shandling, jon stewart,rob brydon, (im told dave chappelle is great too)

ive always loved bill cosby, billl hicks , steve wright, lenny bruce, eddie murphy, steve martin, robin williams and richard pryor... etc

[Me. I Am Salman]

His tweets are ****ing hilarious (he had a conversation with Azealia Banks the other day it was a bit random) and I miss him on Mock The Week. Tramadol Nights was funny too.
Oh and he isn't racist :rolleyes:

[the truth]

His tweets are ****ing hilarious (he had a conversation with Azealia Banks the other day it was a bit random) and I miss him on Mock The Week. Tramadol Nights was funny too.
Oh and he isn't racist :rolleyes:

I disagree I find him 100% unfunny , I think most of his so called comedy is predictable attention seeking sick drivel....but heyho we all have opinions thats mine, thats yours , no problem.

[Alf]

heres just a few snippets of his genius

they should have a speeding advert showing richard hammond trying to remember his wedding day 9said whilst he was fighting for his life)
the way they should have commemorated lady dianas life was by staging a gang bang in a minefield" etc

cheap mean tacky unfunny attention seeking trash

I consider him a bigot and a bully. I shall not dignify this bigot with anymore attention.
sticks and stones will break your bones but names will never hurt you, that was a saying i learnt in primary school, i guess the saying now in schools is, knifes and guns will kill our enemy's but name calling is far more worse

[Shaun]

I shall not dignify this bigot with anymore attention.

ahuh.

[Kizzy]

Comedy is like fashion, the old comedians telling their mother in law jokes and Irish gags have been reborn for the modern audience...

[the truth]

sticks and stones will break your bones but names will never hurt you, that was a saying i learnt in primary school, i guess the saying now in schools is, knifes and guns will kill our enemy's but name calling is far more worse

names do hurt people, especially the weak the young the disabled and the impressionable...these verbal abuses can ultimately lead to suicide...the laws of discrimination seem to be tighter for racism and sexism than against the disabled... .frankie boyle makes millions doing this, yet we teach all our children its wrong to be mean cruel and bigotted....I have heard millions of sick comments from kids aimed at disabled people over the years...I have worked with disabled people, learning disabled, physically disabled etc and it clearly upsets and hurts these people and it must be stopped. its disgusting

[Kizzy]

mocking the afflicted is not funny...
Or are we all of the mind tax evasion is immoral but laughing at jordans kids is fine?
Theres near the knuckle and theres slamming your hand in a car door...

[Omah]

names do hurt people, especially the weak the young the disabled and the impressionable...these verbal abuses can ultimately lead to suicide...the laws of discrimination seem to be tighter for racism and sexism than against the disabled... .frankie boyle makes millions doing this, yet we teach all our children its wrong to be mean cruel and bigotted....I have heard millions of sick comments from kids aimed at disabled people over the years...I have worked with disabled people, learning disabled, physically disabled etc and it clearly upsets and hurts these people and it must be stopped. its disgusting

Yeah, basically Boyle is a cowardly bully - he encourages those who think they are the "hip" to join his "gang" and spit on those that exist outside the "circle" - a technique honed to perfection by the dead Jade Goody, an equally repellent species of sub-human ..... :yuk:

[Mystic Mock]

It's just a joke so I don't get the problem, funny or not he should not be trialed for this when there's more serious crimes going on.

[Ammi]

...it's nothing new for comedians to create a lightness to any situation..it's part of what comedy is all about..in one way or another it's been done over and over again through the decades.....

...it creates a balance to all the cr*p that constantly goes on in the world....

..some won't find it funny...but then some will..some will find it offensive and some won't.....personally, I don't think it's up to me to be offended on anyone else's behalf, any more than I would expect them to laugh at something I was amused at...everyone can decide for themselves....

..in Frankie Boyle's case, I neither find him funny or offensive...and I certainly don't find him a racist..he's just a fairly average stand up comedian....

...that of course is just my opinion..

[Ammi]

hes a rubbish comedian........great comedians can make jokes about everything and get awya with it, if its funny enough....take larry david, mel brooks, jerry seinfeld, bill hicks, richard pryor, the list goes on....even chris rock gets away with it, simply because hes so darn funny....boyle simply isnt

..I remember watching one of Richard Pryors stand up routines once...a huge part of it was poking fun at white people and their 'funny little ways'..as a white person, I found it quite amusing....

...I suppose what you're saying is Frankie Boyle is just not funny enough...if he was, then it all would be perfecty ok....

...I think the problem is, that he just needs to try harder...atm his best just isn't good enough....

[Marc]

I remember sitting two rows from him hin Oxford, I was just praying he'd not see me and leave me alone. The whole ginger thing would have provided him a lot of ammo! Thankfully he picked on the kid in front of me :laugh:

But yeah anyway, he has a very blunt humour which sometime crosses the line that other comedians would be afraid to cross or infact just be sensible not to cross, but I don't think he's a racist

[Livia]

Everyone's so 'right-on' and PC now... lighten up. If you don't like him, don't watch him. It's not like you don't know what you're going to get.

[thesheriff443]

for some people comedy starts and ends with a pie in the face!

[Ammi]

I remember sitting two rows from him hin Oxford, I was just praying he'd not see me and leave me alone. The whole ginger thing would have provided him a lot of ammo! Thankfully he picked on the kid in front of me :laugh:

But yeah anyway, he has a very blunt humour which sometime crosses the line that other comedians would be afraid to cross or infact just be sensible not to cross, but I don't think he's a racist


..you're just not ginger enough for him Marc

[Niamh.]

Comedy is like fashion, the old comedians telling their mother in law jokes and Irish gags have been reborn for the modern audience...

Racists :hmph:

[InOne]

Two Irish men walk in a bar...

[Niamh.]

:suspect:

[Ammi]

...the older comedians didn't just tell mother in law jokes though....Blackadder mocked dark periods in history...a lot of people were outraged at Monty Python...they dared to mock the Catholic Church with their Life of Brian...as if the Catholic faith wasn't humourous enough already....

[Livia]

Luckily there's nothing at all amusing about Jews so we don't get ridiculed much.

[Kizzy]

A pie in the face is funny but only if it's rupert murdocks face, Being white is not a disability and sorry but gingers are just not funny anymore :)
Whats left?

[Ammi]

..poor Marc...he's just become irrelevant

[Kizzy]

...the older comedians didn't just tell mother in law jokes though....Blackadder mocked dark periods in history...a lot of people were outraged at Monty Python...they dared to mock the Catholic Church with their Life of Brian...as if the Catholic faith wasn't humourous enough already....

I meant older than the alternative comedians, boyle is worse in line with the old working mens club comics that targetted anyone in the audience who is different.
I don't buy his claim it was satirical, Sasha Baron Cohens trip to the deep south singing 'throw the jew down the well' THAT was satire.

[Ammi]

..I remember 'The Comedians'..I don't think anything was ever out of bounds to those guys...they just weren't very funny either....

...my dad liked Frank Carson though...

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[thesheriff443]

Luckily there's nothing at all amusing about Jews so we don't get ridiculed much.

well there is the one asking why they have small penis's:joker:

[thesheriff443]

Two Irish men walk in a bar...

and then a lamp post and then....:joker:

[Kizzy]

well there is the one asking why they have small penis's:joker:

Ah, THATS why those jewish women were so neurotic last night....;)

[Livia]

well there is the one asking why they have small penis's:joker:

I guess that's better than being small penises, sheriff.............

[Niamh.]

:laugh2:

[Alf]

names do hurt people, especially the weak the young the disabled and the impressionable...these verbal abuses can ultimately lead to suicide...the laws of discrimination seem to be tighter for racism and sexism than against the disabled... .frankie boyle makes millions doing this, yet we teach all our children its wrong to be mean cruel and bigotted....I have heard millions of sick comments from kids aimed at disabled people over the years...I have worked with disabled people, learning disabled, physically disabled etc and it clearly upsets and hurts these people and it must be stopped. its disgusting
it's not down to frankie boyle's comedy routine why people commit suicide, if they cant take a joke how ever offensive and have to top themselfs because of what someone said, then it's their own fault, they wont get no sympathy from me, i have my own problems to worry about, but wouldn't resort to suicide. everything he says you'll find them words in the oxford english dictionary, because that's all they are words, they cant do you no harm.

[Kizzy]

Well words they may be however we do have hate laws now to protect vulnerable groups against predudice.
He has a nerve taking action due to a slur against his character when he has made a packet during his shows doing the exact same to others....
I guess he just didn't see the funny side?

[Omah]

it's not down to frankie boyle's comedy routine why people commit suicide, if they cant take a joke how ever offensive and have to top themselfs because of what someone said, then it's their own fault, they wont get no sympathy from me, i have my own problems to worry about, but wouldn't resort to suicide. everything he says you'll find them words in the oxford english dictionary, because that's all they are words, they cant do you no harm.

The Greek poet Euripides, who died about 406 B.C., said, "Η γλώσσα είναι ισχυρότερη από τη λεπίδα.", ie. "The tongue is mightier than the blade."

[the truth]

Well words they may be however we do have hate laws now to protect vulnerable groups against predudice.
He has a nerve taking action due to a slur against his character when he has made a packet during his shows doing the exact same to others....
I guess he just didn't see the funny side?

yes frankie doesnt seem to find it funny wheres his humour now? he laughs it off when those he discriminates against try to fight back, disabled people, deformed people, those who have lost legs in war, he laughs that off as trivial....yet when he is attacked he has no sense of humour. people like this attention seeking bigot are on tv to tens of millions, they influence how people, and young impresionable people behave. personally i would ban him for life from the bbc. he can cultivate his sick cult of people elsewhere, I dont want my tax being paid to promote this sick mans wages

[Alf]

The Greek poet Euripides, who died about 406 B.C., said, "The tongue is mightier than the blade."well then euripides talked out of his backside, in my lifetime someone calling sombody else a name never killed them, but if someone stuck a blade in to somebody else, then i have seen people killed through that, but hey if you want to take the word of some ancient greek myth then go for it

[Niamh.]

Well words they may be however we do have hate laws now to protect vulnerable groups against predudice.
He has a nerve taking action due to a slur against his character when he has made a packet during his shows doing the exact same to others....
I guess he just didn't see the funny side?

That's actually a very good point Kizzy. If he wants to carry on with those types of jokes fine but he can't then complain when someone says something insulting about him

[the truth]

well then euripides talked out of his backside, in my lifetime someone calling sombody else a name never killed them, but if someone stuck a blade in to somebody else, then i have seen people killed through that, but hey if you want to take the word of some ancient greek myth then go for it

racism , anti semitism, discrimination against the disabled all starts with words and ideas....its horrific and words can and do destroy people.

[Kizzy]

well then euripides talked out of his backside, in my lifetime someone calling sombody else a name never killed them, but if someone stuck a blade in to somebody else, then i have seen people killed through that, but hey if you want to take the word of some ancient greek myth then go for it

No he wasen't he was spot on, you can stick a knife in someone yes, but if you can talk 100 people into sticking knives in each other it's much more effective.

[MTVN]

This article accusing him of being a racist isn't the same as Boyle's jokes though, which while some might find offensive are made purely for comedic value and is essentially satire, he mocks stereotypes and the like with his material, brazenly branding him a racist is on the other hand actually a serious allegation

[Niamh.]

Can't have it both ways Matthew, if they had put "LOL" at the end of their article, would it be ok then? :pipe:

[Vanessa]

Good! I hate The Mirror. :nono:

[Alf]

racism , anti semitism, discrimination against the disabled all starts with words and ideas....its horrific and words can and do destroy people.
so you think our right to speak, our minds something that humans do, should be surpressed?

[Omah]

well then euripides talked out of his backside, in my lifetime someone calling sombody else a name never killed them, but if someone stuck a blade in to somebody else, then i have seen people killed through that, but hey if you want to take the word of some ancient greek myth then go for it

I might mention Bulwer-Lytton's "The pen is mightier than the sword" (1839), too, and other numerous references to the efficacy of communication, but I don't think I'll bother ..... :idc:

[Alf]

This article accusing him of being a racist isn't the same as Boyle's jokes though, which while some might find offensive are made purely for comedic value and is essentially satire, he mocks stereotypes and the like with his material, brazenly branding him a racist is on the other hand actually a serious allegation
correct its a comedy act and he's mocking bigots

[Niamh.]

so you think our right to speak, our minds something that humans do, should be surpressed?

What about the Papers right to speak their minds about Boyle then? What's good for the goose and all that

[Omah]

No he wasen't he was spot on, you can stick a knife in someone yes, but if you can talk 100 people into sticking knives in each other it's much more effective.

Yeah, Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda and National Enlightenment, was a master at doing that .....

[Mystic Mock]

That's actually a very good point Kizzy. If he wants to carry on with those types of jokes fine but he can't then complain when someone says something insulting about him

But they are not joking, a big difference.

[Kizzy]

It's essentially like a toxic 'friend' (we all have one) taking the piss out of you and attempting to justify it by saying 'i'm only joking'
Then crying to everyone when she feels slighted....

[Mystic Mock]

What about the Papers right to speak their minds about Boyle then? What's good for the goose and all that

The Mirror could be done for slander, so again a big difference to Boyle's jokes.

[Niamh.]

But they are not joking, a big difference.

So what? Do you think Harveys parents and family found it funny when he was the butt of Boyles jokes? I find it funny that Boyle cries like a little bitch when someone insults him after all the s**t he says about people including specific disabled children

[Shaun]

Whilst the material that constitutes the Daily Mirror's idea of 'journalism' is indeed laughable, it's not meant in a light-hearted manner and is the hyperbolic vitriol of idiots.

[the truth]

so you think our right to speak, our minds something that humans do, should be surpressed?

yes if it is discriminating against people, thats why we have laws? what an absurd question

[Kizzy]

Yeah, Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda and National Enlightenment, was a master at doing that .....

It's how the taliban work too, i'm not saying frankie is in their league...yet haha!

[Mystic Mock]

So what? Do you think Harveys parents and family found it funny when he was the butt of Boyles jokes? I find it funny that Boyle cries like a little bitch when someone insults him after all the s**t he says about people including specific disabled children

Tbf loads of people joke about disabled children, I bet Katie Price has probably made sick jokes in the past herself, everyone does at some point, but I agree that it might have been extreme to do it right soon after being diagnosed as disabled.

[Niamh.]

Tbf loads of people joke about disabled children, I bet Katie Price has probably made sick jokes in the past herself, everyone does at some point, but I agree that it might have been extreme to do it right soon after being diagnosed as disabled.

I think there's a difference between mocking disabled children in general (not that I find that funny) and mocking a particular disabled child, that's really as low as a person can get

[Alf]

yes if it is discriminating against people, thats why we have laws? what an absurd question

and boyle is taking advantage of those pathetic laws

[Kizzy]

Whilst the material that constitutes the Daily Mirror's idea of 'journalism' is indeed laughable, it's not meant in a light-hearted manner and is the hyperbolic vitriol of idiots.

Tramadol nights wasn't laughable either thats the bottom line...
It dosen't matter which paper he has a problem with, its why he has a problem thats the issue.

[the truth]

I think there's a difference between mocking disabled children in general (not that I find that funny) and mocking a particular disabled child, that's really as low as a person can get

100% AGREED, BRILLIANTLY PUT:wavey:

[Kizzy]

and boyle is taking advantage of those pathetic laws

In which case he will be outed as a hypocrite and told to stop targetting the weakest in society if theres any justice.

[the truth]

In which case he will be outed as a hypocrite and told to stop targetting the weakest in society if theres any justice.

amen I would love katie price to take him to court for discrimination too...i dont like her but she has every right to defend her disabled son against this disgusting discrimination....with her power and wealth she would tear him to pieces in any court of law....the law doesnt defend any comedian discriminating against specific disabled children. if a person doesnt think thats sick, then that person must be sick too

[Kizzy]

I think there's a difference between mocking disabled children in general (not that I find that funny) and mocking a particular disabled child, that's really as low as a person can get

Absolutely! My guess would be harvey was a target due to the seemingly universal hatred of his mother....
There was a definate feel that he could say whatever the hell he liked as it was about jordan in my opinion.
Anyone else there would have been a much bigger backlash.

[Kizzy]

amen I would love katie price to take him to court for discrimination too...i dont like her but she has every right to defend her disabled son against this disgusting discrimination....with her power and wealth she would tear him to pieces in any court of law....the law doesnt defend any comedian discriminating against specific disabled children. if a person doesnt think thats sick, then that person must be sick too

I think she did and rightly so, his case with the mirror is prob just him trying to recoup his losses...pathetic really, moral of the story is if you can't take it don't dish it out!

[Mystic Mock]

I think there's a difference between mocking disabled children in general (not that I find that funny) and mocking a particular disabled child, that's really as low as a person can get

Comedians joke about race, fat people, gay people, every kind of person you can think of yet they can't mock disabled people?:conf:

If you can't mock one thing then you can't mock any of them imo.

[Omah]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Boyle#Harvey_Price

n December 2010, both Katie Price and Peter Andre were said to have been left "absolutely disgusted and sickened" by a joke that was made on Frankie Boyle's Tramadol Nights about Price's heavily disabled son, Harvey. On the show, Boyle said: "Apparently Jordan and Peter Andre are fightin' each other over custody of Harvey, well eventually one of them'll lose and have to keep him." Then he added: "I have a theory that Jordan married a cage fighter cause she needed someone strong enough to stop Harvey from ****in' her."

In a response, Katie Price said: "Harvey Price is a little miracle. Every day he overcomes so many difficulties and has so many battles to win due to his medical problems. I love him and am deeply proud to be his mother. If Mr Boyle had a tenth of his courage and decency, he would know that to suggest, let alone think funny, that Harvey may sexually attack me is vile and deeply unfair. Mr Boyle clearly has serious issues and those that give him a TV platform to say such disgusting things need to look at themselves very honestly."

Andre's representative also responded to the comments made by Boyle and said "We're all disgusted by these comments. Peter is angry and very upset at Harvey being mocked in this way. Children, especially a disabled youngster, should be off-limits." Both confirmed that they had sought legal action and wrote a complaint to Channel 4 regarding Boyle's jokes with Price saying: "To bully this unbelievably brave child is despicable; to broadcast it is to show a complete and utter lack of judgement. I have asked my lawyers to write to Channel 4." Ofcom confirmed that Price issued a complaint and accordingly launched an investigation into the programme. In April 2011 Ofcom ruled Channel 4 had breached broadcasting rules by transmitting the material in question but did not require the network to broadcast an apology saying that it was "erroneous decision on a matter of editorial judgment on the broadcaster's part". Price criticised the decision not to require a broadcast apology.

I'm no fan of KP's and she's far from being the world's best mother, but I was right behind her on this one ..... Boyle, yet again, proving himself to be a moronic a$$hole ..... :yuk:

[Mystic Mock]

Whoa that is sick.

[Alf]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Boyle#Harvey_Price



I'm no fan of KP's and she's far from being the world's best mother, but I was right behind her on this one ..... Boyle, yet again, proving himself to be a moronic a$$hole ..... :yuk:
aah lets have a whip round for poor hard done to millionaire page 3 girl katie price, she's upset.

[Omah]

aah lets have a whip round for poor hard done to millionaire page 3 girl katie price, she's upset.

I suspect that you are unfamiliar with the difficulties faced by the parents of disabled children ..... :suspect:

[Kizzy]

aah lets have a whip round for poor hard done to millionaire page 3 girl katie price, she's upset.

What a strange post... Has nothing whatsoever to do with frankie boyle and appears to target jordan....yawn.

[Alf]

I suspect that you are unfamiliar with the difficulties faced by the parents of disabled children ..... :suspect:
not first hand, but i'd predict it wont be easy, but she seems to be doing a great job.

but why a comedian taking the p**s out of her should effect her life, is beyond me, she's the one that publicises every thing she does and puts her son in that enviroment, just so she can make millions, she puts herself up to be mocked

[MTVN]

Agree with wannashag, she's always forcing Harvey into the public eye and uses him for publicity a lot and that is gonna open up the possibility of some using that for comedy, it does kinda come with the territory of broadcasting every single aspect of your life

[Tom4784]

Papers are meant to print facts, if they say that someone's a racist when they aren't then they're susceptible to lawsuits, comparing the papers to the content of a stand up act is a foolish comparison really as they aren't bound by the same laws.

[Omah]

not first hand, but i'd predict it wont be easy, but she seems to be doing a great job.

but why a comedian taking the p**s out of her should effect her life, is beyond me, she's the one that publicises every thing she does and puts her son in that enviroment, just so she can make millions, she puts herself up to be mocked

So, because KP "puts herself up to be mocked", FB can use her acutely disabled son as a tool to "take the p**s out of her " - how clever ..... :rolleyes: ..... and he can make millions into the bargain ..... :cool:

The parents of the 770,000 disabled children in the UK will undoubtedly be ROFL'ing all the way to the food bank ..... :pipe:

[Alf]

So, because KP "puts herself up to be mocked", FB can use her acutely disabled son as a tool to "take the p**s out of her " - how clever ..... :rolleyes: ..... and he can make millions into the bargain ..... :cool:

The parents of the 770,000 disabled children in the UK will undoubtedly be ROFL'ing all the way to the food bank ..... :pipe:
in my opinion yes he can, he should have the right to say what he likes.

[Mystic Mock]

So, because KP "puts herself up to be mocked", FB can use her acutely disabled son as a tool to "take the p**s out of her " - how clever ..... :rolleyes: ..... and he can make millions into the bargain ..... :cool:

The parents of the 770,000 disabled children in the UK will undoubtedly be ROFL'ing all the way to the food bank ..... :pipe:

What have Nuts and Facebook got to do with anything?:joker:

In all seriousness it's not right what he said and it does sound like an attack on Katie Price than an actual joke, but loads of comedians make racist jokes so I still stand by my point that he shouldn't be branded a racist for it.

[Omah]

Agree with wannashag, she's always forcing Harvey into the public eye and uses him for publicity a lot and that is gonna open up the possibility of some using that for comedy, it does kinda come with the territory of broadcasting every single aspect of your life

Two wrongs don't make a right - he becomes as bad as her, and as much a sordid stereotype.

[Niamh.]

Comedians joke about race, fat people, gay people, every kind of person you can think of yet they can't mock disabled people?:conf:

If you can't mock one thing then you can't mock any of them imo.

Did you even read my post?

[Redway]

in my opinion yes he can, he should have the right to say what he likes.
Sure but he should also be prepared to face the consequences of his sickening comments.

[Alf]

Sure but he should also be prepared to face the consequences of his sickening comments.
well thats his problem, it wont affect my life so i dont care
i'm not saying what he say's is a good thing, i dont really care for him myself he's no where near in the top ten british stand up comedians, but if thats what he wants to say, then i dont believe someones freedom of speach should be surpressed, i wouldn't come up with some of the things he says, but each to their own.

[Mystic Mock]

Did you even read my post?

Yes I did so why are you saying that for?

[Niamh.]

Yes I did so why are you saying that for?

Because the reply you gave didn't really correspond with what I actually said

[Mystic Mock]

Because the reply you gave didn't really correspond with what I actually said

Well you was basically saying that it's not alright to mock disabled children yet you don't really complain on here when any other group gets mocked.

[thesheriff443]

I guess that's better than being small penises, sheriff.............

in that case you will love my thread,
meet my penis.:xyxwave:

[Niamh.]

Well you was basically saying that it's not alright to mock disabled children yet you don't really complain on here when any other group gets mocked.

No I didn't, I said, there's a difference between mocking disabled people in general and mocking a specific disabled child (Harvey)

[thesheriff443]

No I didn't, I said, there's a difference between mocking disabled people in general and mocking a specific disabled child (Harvey)

the problem with that is,
harvey was put in the public domain by jordan!,if she was not such a desperate show biz hoar, she would do anything and use anyone to get more exposure.

[Niamh.]

the problem with that is,
harvey was put in the public domain by jordan!,if she was not such a desperate show biz hoar, she would do any thing and use anyone to get more exposure.

Maybe so but that's not his fault, as far as I know every other comedian has resisted the urge to take the piss out of him and his disability

[thesheriff443]

Maybe so but that's not his fault, as far as I know every other comedian has resisted the urge to take the piss out of him and his disability

its the shock factor!
you could say if jordan did not do so many drugs and not drink like a fish when she was pregnant he would have turned out normal!

[Kizzy]

Papers are meant to print facts, if they say that someone's a racist when they aren't then they're susceptible to lawsuits, comparing the papers to the content of a stand up act is a foolish comparison really as they aren't bound by the same laws.

Wrong, we are a democracy and Everyone is bound by the same laws.

[thesheriff443]

Wrong, we are a democracy and Everyone is bound by the same laws.

your wrong on this!

[the truth]

its the shock factor!
you could say if jordan did not do so many drugs and not drink like a fish when she was pregnant he would have turned out normal!

sick

[Kizzy]

your wrong on this!

Am I....how?

[the truth]

people get fined, jailed imprisoned for using abusive , discriminatory or racist language all the time, why should frankie boyle we allowed to get away with being a bigot any more than anyone else?

[Redway]

Maybe because he isn't a racist?

[thesheriff443]

Am I....how?

the content of a stand up routine is purley for entertainment value,
whereas a paper printing that some one is a racist without proof is a different matter all together.

[Kizzy]

the content of a stand up routine is purley for entertainment value,
whereas a paper printing that some one is a racist without proof is a different matter all together.

Whats that to do with the point you made about the law being different?
So like I've said before as long as you are grossly offensive and libelous in the name of comedy its fine...

[thesheriff443]

Whats that to do with the point you made about the law being different?
So like I've said before as long as you are grossly offensive and libelous in the name of comedy its fine...

yes!
you know what is being said is for entertainment value if you did not want to hear it you would not pay to see it!
the law is not the same for a stand up routine as it is for a news paper.

[Kizzy]

yes!
you know what is being said is for entertainment value if you did not want to hear it you would not pay to see it!
the law is not the same for a stand up routine as it is for a news paper.

So in that case how did Katie Price sue Frankie Boyle for his comments relating to her disabled son?

[MTVN]

I'm pretty sure she didn't..

[the truth]

yes!
you know what is being said is for entertainment value if you did not want to hear it you would not pay to see it!
the law is not the same for a stand up routine as it is for a news paper.

i didnt pay to see him discriminate against indivudal disabled people on tv, he shouldnt be allowed on there, he shou;ld be prosecuted for discriminating disabled people, period. the man is breaking the law

[thesheriff443]

So in that case how did Katie Price sue Frankie Boyle for his comments relating to her disabled son?

did she sue?
she was planning to sue but i never heard anymore!
channel four would not even give katie price an apology, for his remarks.

[thesheriff443]

i didnt pay to see him discriminate against indivudal disabled people on tv, he shouldnt be allowed on there, he shou;ld be prosecuted for discriminating disabled people, period. the man is breaking the law

if there is a warning before the program then he is not breaking the law!.
its the same as the disclaimer signs,

[Kizzy]

did she sue?
she was planning to sue but i never heard anymore!
channel four would not even give katie price an apology, for his remarks.

Ah, thats right she did attempt to as any rational person would do after that abuse.
I can't imagine having to contend with that, we will have to agree to disagree I think.

[thesheriff443]

Ah, thats right she did attempt to as any rational person would do after that abuse.
I can't imagine having to contend with that, we will have to agree to disagree I think.

yes we will have to,lol
but jordan should have kept her family out of it,but her hunger for fame and money, means she would and will do anything to stay in the spot light.

[the truth]

yes we will have to,lol
but jordan should have kept her family out of it,but her hunger for fame and money, means she would and will do anything to stay in the spot light.

nothing to do with it. boyle broke the law in his abuse of that disabld child. hopefully the bigot will soon be banned and jailed for his endless absusive discrimination.

[Alf]

nothing to do with it. boyle broke the law in his abuse of that disabld child. hopefully the bigot will soon be banned and jailed for his endless absusive discrimination.
boyle takes the p*ss out everybody not just disabled people, if he was to say how great they all are it wouldn't be comedy, why are you only speaking up for diabled people do you think they have more rights than anyone else?
who's dicriminating now?

[Kizzy]

If it were a generalisation that would just be a bloke stood on a stage mocking the afflicted, not specifically targetting a child due to the fact his mother is not popular with the public.
It was an unwarranted unprovoked attack on a disabled child. You can dress it up anyway you like, call it freedom of speech...call it comedy.
I call it cowardly and immoral, about the furthest away from funny as you can get imo.

[Jack_]

Comedy doesn't and should have no bounds...because it's just that...comedy. You know...jokes, things that aren't meant to be taken seriously?

I don't expect everyone to enjoy dark humour, but to try and dictate to other people what they can and can't watch, and what can and cannot be shown regarding comedy is beyond absurd. And are people honestly trying to compare one man's jokes with a national newspaper's slanderous allegation? I mean...am I really reading that right? It's about time someone stood up to this trend of tabloid newspapers printing inflammatory, reactionary and sensationalist crap.

The article started with this line:

RACIST comedian Frankie Boyle could soon be returning to TV despite upsetting thousands of viewers

And this is serious, impartial journalism? Are you taking the piss?

[Omah]

It's about time someone stood up to this trend of tabloid newspapers printing inflammatory, reactionary and sensationalist crap.


Isn't that Boyle's prediliction, too?

:laugh2:

[Kizzy]

Well lets take the keyword in that to be 'jokes' none of his comments about harvey were 'jokes' just a series of offensive remarks.
He personalised his attack..why?

It's a double standard to berate the media for what you percieve to be offensive,inflammatory and unjustified comments when you give free reign to this 'comic' to say whatever he likes about whoever he likes.

[Jack_]

http://www.putlocker.com/file/9JJD5HV8EACC0W8#

His 20 second piece on those who don't get 'jokes' from 53:55 is one of the truest things he has ever said.

[Omah]

It's a double standard to berate the media for what you percieve to be offensive,inflammatory and unjustified comments when you give free reign to this 'comic' to say whatever he likes about whoever he likes.

Exactly ..... :thumbs:

[thesheriff443]

if you have ever laughted at someone falling over, you are the same as everyone else!.
if you say no then your in denial!.

[Omah]

if you have ever laughted at someone falling over, you are the same as everyone else!.
if you say no then your in denial!.

I wouldn't laugh at just anyone falling over, but I would laugh at Frankie Boyle falling flat on his face ..... :laugh2:

[thesheriff443]

I wouldn't laugh at just anyone falling over, but I would laugh at Frankie Boyle falling flat on his face ..... :laugh2:

well thats my point omar,you are laughting at someone elses misfortune!.

[Kizzy]

well thats my point omar,you are laughting at someone elses misfortune!.

I watch you've been framed but how is that ANYTHING like tramadol nights?
Whatever point you are attempting to make sheriff you are failing.

[thesheriff443]

I watch you've been framed but how is that ANYTHING like tramadol nights?
Whatever point you are attempting to make sheriff you are failing.

my point is!
in life we all at some point laugh at some ones misfortune like a person falling over!, or someone with a big nose,
so in turn laughing at a stand up gig does not make the person telling the joke or the person laughing at it the devil!

[Kizzy]

my point is!
in life we all at some point laugh at some ones misfortune like a person falling over!, or someone with a big nose,
so in turn laughing at a stand up gig does not make the person telling the joke or the person laughing at it the devil!

For the last time it was not a joke, and I didn't laugh at his verbal abuse towards harvey. I am not alone in this view sheriff, you appear to be making me out to be some humourless bore for not seeing the hilarity in his sickening assault.
You will never convince me this was an acceptable way to behave let alone a funny one.

[thesheriff443]

For the last time it was not a joke, and I didn't laugh at his verbal abuse towards harvey. I am not alone in this view sheriff, you appear to be making me out to be some humourless bore for not seeing the hilarity in his sickening assault.
You will never convince me this was an acceptable way to behave let alone a funny one.

first of all, im not makeing you out to anything other than a forum member that does not share my opinion, further more in this thread other members have posted also saying they do not agree with me.

im not saying that you dont have a right to be upset by mr boyles remarks or find it remotely funny!
what i am saying is that at some point in your life you have found someone elses misfortune funny, that in turn was not funny to the person you where laughing at.

[Omah]

well thats my point omar,you are laughting at someone elses misfortune!.

Not just someone else - specifically Frankie Boyle ..... :laugh3:

[Omah]

my point is!
in life we all at some point laugh at some ones misfortune like a person falling over!, or someone with a big nose,

I don't ..... :nono:

I grew out of that attitude years ago ..... :idc:

Slapstick, pantomime and circuses are not for me ..... :bored:

[Alf]

I don't ..... :nono:

I grew out of that attitude years ago ..... :idc:

Slapstick, pantomime and circuses are not for me ..... :bored:
so what is your comedy?
i know people today get laughs from amy childs saying the word shut up, or joey essex being think,(ah he's so cute for being stupid, i love him) or someone not being a good singer on the x factor.
are you in to this? just what comedy do you like?

[Kizzy]

How would that in any way have a bearing on this?
In your bizarre hypothetical my laughing at someone tripping makes me no better or worse than frankie boyle, or I should in some way identify and empathize with him?

[thesheriff443]

How would that in any way have a bearing on this?
In your bizarre hypothetical my laughing at someone tripping makes me no better or worse than frankie boyle, or I should in some way identify and empathize with him?

right lets try to put this in perspective!
since this thread has been up approx 48,000 children have died of starvation!
this is something that disgust's me!,not a joke about jordon's son.
but lets talk about harvey,he is disabled and for that i feel sorry for him,but his parents are multi millionaire's and he will have the best that money can buy,many, many family's cant even afford the the chairs that support their child so they can have a better control of their bodies.
what i am saying to you kizzy is this,
on this occasion you have been outraged by a comedians material,but there must have been times in your life that you found something funny that other people would not.

[thesheriff443]

Not just someone else - specifically Frankie Boyle ..... :laugh3:

you have two posts back to back contradicting your self!.
the first you say you would laugh if mr boyle fell on his face but in the second you say you grew out of this attitude years ago!
whats it to be?

[Omah]

you have two posts back to back contradicting your self!.
the first you say you would laugh if mr boyle fell on his face but in the second you say you grew out of this type of comedy!

Who said it was comedy?

I see it as payback ..... :evilgrin:

[Kizzy]

So it's ok to say whatever you like about a kid if their parenrs are rich?
Just quit while you are behind sheriff.

[thesheriff443]

So it's ok to say whatever you like about a kid if their parenrs are rich?
Just quit while you are behind sheriff.

see this is the difference between me and you!
im not asking you to quit!

[thesheriff443]

Who said it was comedy?

I see it as payback ..... :evilgrin:

if its pay back then you are wishing someone harm!
and that's not a joking matter!

[Omah]

if its pay back then you are wishing someone harm!
and that's not a joking matter!

Exactly ..... :pipe:

[the truth]

why do u all dwell on this trivial drivel, yet ignore the FACT 25000 plus people died from blood clots picked up in sub standard nhswards in a year? that 25000 is just the tip of the iceberg. clearly the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of innocent brits in british hospitals is less important to you than the foul mouthed drivel of a bigotted comedian? crazy

[Jake.]

why do u all dwell on this trivial drivel, yet ignore the FACT 25000 plus people died from blood clots picked up in sub standard nhswards in a year? that 25000 is just the tip of the iceberg. clearly the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of innocent brits in british hospitals is less important to you than the foul mouthed drivel of a bigotted comedian? crazy

kk

[Jack_]

He won the case by a unanimous verdict thankfully. I'm glad to see common sense prevailed whilst sticking a massive middle finger up to the humourless, misguided and tabloid-worshiping fools who are offended on other people's behalf and think they have a right to tell other people what can and cannot be shown or said in the bounds of comedy. My only issue with this case is that the payout should've been more.

I also hope this sparks a trend of more people suing these abhorrent tabloid newspapers so that they become defunct.

Frankie Boyle awarded damages of £50,400 over Daily Mirror 'racist' label

Frankie Boyle has been awarded £50,400 in damages after a High Court jury ruled the Daily Mirror had libelled the comedian when describing him as a 'racist'.

The jury also found that the claim Boyle was 'forced to quit' BBC2 panel show Mock The Week was defamatory, and awarded the comic a further £4,250.

Writing on Twitter, Boyle confirmed he would donate the damages to charity.

The 40-year-old, from Glasgow, launched action against the tabloid's publisher Mirror Group Newspapers over the July 19, 2011 article.

During a week-long trial the stand-up comic said he 'despises' racists and that the newspaper had 'misunderstood' the context of his jokes.

He said the accusation of being a racist went against 'everything I've tried to do in my work, to do in my life'.

'If I take this on the chin it sets a very serious precedent. I think the idea of taking racism down to this casual level is a very serious thing,' Boyle said.

Lawyers for MGN said the description of Boyle as a racist comedian who exploited negative stereotypes of black people was either true of an 'honest comment on a matter of public interest'.

Jurors at the High Court disagreed, saying the racist description was defamatory.

Writing on Twitter after the verdict, Boyle said: 'I'm very happy with the jury's decision and their unanimous rejection of the Mirror's allegation that I am a racist.

'Racism is still a very serious problem in society which is why I've made a point of always being anti-racist in my life and work and that's why I brought this action.'

Source (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/915720-frankie-boyle-awarded-damages-of-50-400-over-daily-mirror-racist-label#ixzz2A2YtJVO2)

And it's nice to see that Frankie will be donating his damages to charity.

I'm very happy with the jury's decision and their unanimous rejection of the Mirror's allegation that I am a racist. Racism is still a very serious problem in society which is why I've made a point of always being anti-racist in my life and work and that's why I brought this action. I am giving my damages to charity.'

[Ammi]

..Hahh..nice one Jack..I still don't think he's funny but I don't think he's a racist either..

[arista]

"be donating his damages to charity."


Great PR

[Ammi]

..I don't think the charities care whether it's PR Arista..they still get the benefit of the money..

[Me. I Am Salman]

:worship:

[thesheriff443]

"be donating his damages to charity."


Great PR

he could just keep it,

[Kizzy]

He is a hypocrite.

[thesheriff443]

He is a hypocrite.

in your opinon!

[Jack_]

He is a hypocrite.

:sleep:

And you're going to dispute an official, unanimous verdict in a court of law?

You might not like his humour, fine. But he isn't a racist, that's an absurd, defamatory and offensive claim and to honour it just because you don't like someone's work is just laughable and also quite childish.

His work and jokes are anti-racist, it doesn't take a genius to work out the underlying message. To take these jokes seriously and believe that they have actual racist tones to them...

He gave jurors an example of a joke about Britain's involvement in foreign conflicts in which Mr Boyle answered a phone and said, "Department of N----- Bombing"

In one joke from Tramadol Nights, which was shown to the jury, Boyle said: "Basically, we are murdering a load of shepherds. What gets me is our callousness as a society when we read out our dead on the news first, because our lives are more important. Other people's aren't worth as much."

He then adopted a newsreader's tone, saying: "A bomb went off in Kandahar today, killing two British servicemen, three UN relief workers and a whole bunch of pak*s."

...is seriously alarming, delusional, really quite silly and I can't fathom how people could be so oblivious to the obvious anti-racist message.

[billy123]

Common sense wins.
Nice to see for once in this society that seems so desperate to be offended.

[Vicky.]

Glad to see he won this case. Hes a bit of an unfunny douche IMO a lot of the time (though I have giggled occasionally at tramadol nights when my dad had it on :blush2: ), but I wouldnt say he was racist.

[Nedusa]

I'm glad he won his case he is not a racist he is a comedian who walks a fine line with his brand of comedy, where NO Subject is off limits. His subject matter is controversial but that is the essence of humour, there is humour in all human interactions they may be unpalatable to some in which case turn off , don't listen or watch. But the humour is still there and a vast number of broad minded people can enjoy this sort of dark humour without branding the person delivering the material as responsible for it.

And as a footnote I personally find Frankie Boyles comic timing and delivery superb, easily the funniest comedian on Mock the Week.

Glad he won as its a victory for freedom of speech and freedom of comedy expression.

[Kizzy]

I didn't say he was racist, I said he was a hypocrite...
IMO, fall asleep all you want :gunther:

[billy123]

I didn't say he was racist, I said he was a hypocrite...
IMO, fall asleep all you want :gunther:
I quite like gunther

http://www.gunthernet.com/image_gunther.jpg

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