81 BBC staff face sex allegations in wake of Jimmy Savile scandal

[Omah]

Originally: Abuse claims: Report suggests politician wrongly suspected

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20263420

New claims have emerged about the identity of a man alleged to have abused children from care homes in north Wales.

Last Friday on the BBC's Newsnight, former resident Steve Messham claimed he was abused by a senior politician of the Thatcher era, who was not named.

Now the Guardian says the alleged abuse was not carried out by the politician.

It may have been committed by a relative with the same surname, who has since died, it says.

:idc:

[Kizzy]

I heard on the 10pm news they were now suggesting it is the son of a lord....
Who could that be then?
Not Reece-Mogg, he is to young I think.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20267832

Conservative peer Lord McAlpine has said allegations linking him to alleged historical child abuse are "wholly false and seriously defamatory".

The ex-treasurer released a statement after a man claimed he had been abused at a care home in Wrexham, North Wales.

Lord McAlpine said he had visited Wrexham "only once" and that he had been in the company of an agent from Conservative Central Office.

He said he had "never" been to the children's home linked to the claims.

Lord McAlpine's denial comes after Steve Messham claimed he was abused by a senior politician of the Thatcher era, who was not named.

In his statement, Lord McAlpine said: "I have never been to the children's home in Wrexham, nor have I ever visited any children's home, reform school or any other institution of a similar nature.

"I have never stayed in a hotel in or near Wrexham, I did not own a Rolls Royce, have never had a 'Gold card' or 'Harrods card' and never wear aftershave, all of which have been alleged."

So it's not him, then ..... :idc:

[Omah]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/nov/08/mistaken-identity-tory-abuse-claim

Lord McAlpine was exonerated by the 1997 Waterhouse inquiry of any involvement in the abuse of children in the north Wales homes but not named because of an order by the retired judge preventing the identification of either victims or alleged abusers. As a result he has been the subject of persistent smears, which resurfaced following the Newsnight allegations about a senior Tory.

But the allegations made by Messham began to unravel after it emerged that he told the Waterhouse inquiry in 1997 that the McAlpine family member he believed to be his abuser was now dead. Lord McAlpine is alive and living in Italy.

The mounting concerns over Messham's allegations will be awkward for David Cameron who has already been accused of over-reacting to claims that senior Conservatives were involved in child abuse by ordering two inquiries into an issue which had already been thoroughly investigated by a public inquiry.

Boys from Bryn Estyn would be taken in "working parties" to the homes of two McAlpine family members in the area – Gerwyn Hall and Marchwiel Hall, both a few miles south-east of Wrexham town centre.

Gerwyn Hall, a grand Georgian house hidden by woodland from the public road, was occupied by Jimmie McAlpine, who died in 1991, six years before the Waterhouse inquiry began. Jimmie's wife, Cynthia, still living at the hall, declined to talk when approached by the Guardian.

Jimmie McAlpine chaired the north of England builders Alfred McAlpine Ltd. His Times obituary recorded: "His other main interest was vintage cars, and he amassed what was at one time the biggest private collection in Britain."

Waterhouse, a retired high court judge, concluded that although Messham was testifying in good faith, and had indeed suffered extensive sexual abuse, his evidence was inconclusive about "any member of the X family". He left open the possibility that Messham might have been wrongly told by a third party that a McAlpine was involved, or have jumped to conclusions.

So, Jimmie did it ..... :idc:

[arista]

"Lord McAlpine Denies Sex Abuse Allegations"

http://news.sky.com/story/1009185/lord-mcalpine-denies-sex-abuse-allegations

[Livia]

Witch-hunts R Us.

[Omah]

Witch-hunts R Us.

It's a shame there was no "witch-hunt" for Savile when he was young - they could have strung him up and spared hundreds of children the degradation of his molestation and violation ..... :hmph:

Turning a blind eye never did anyone any favours ..... :nono:

[Kizzy]

No it doesn't...
It does not explain why evidence from the previous inquiry was retained and destroyed...
Son, father or brother of a lord it was felt to be 'too close for comfort' obviously.
This soundbite 'witchhunt' now only has to be whispered and ordinarily rational people are willing to overlook 100's pf victim and witness statements...

Once again if anyone is remotely interested in the plight of local authority care home children, past present or future please look at Nick Davis 'Dark Heart, the truth behind hidden britain'
written in the 1990's it warns of the issues faced by children being let down in the system, as well as highlighting failings to safeguard communities.
We are only just now seeing the fruits of these failings have switched from local to national level and on a much grander scale.

[Livia]

It's a shame there was no "witch-hunt" for Savile when he was young - they could have strung him up and spared hundreds of children the degradation of his molestation and violation ..... :hmph:

Turning a blind eye never did anyone any favours ..... :nono:

I'll tell you what else does no one any favours, people lapping up every salacious detail of any sex scandal that hits the tabloids and believing every word is true. Especially - as it this case - if it fits in with the agenda that posh people are inherently bad.

I hope that none of the torch-and-pitchfork-carrying hysterics on these threads are ever falsely accused of anything because only then will they realise how dangerous a situation that is. Every time I see another of these threads pop up and read posts from people beating their own breasts with grief and outrage, I remember the baying mob who besieged the house of a paediatrician and daubed her walls with anti-paedophile graffiti.

Incidentally, it is no secret that children in care homes have a rough time. If people put as much effort and energy into doing something about it that they put into talking about it, there probably wouldn't be a problem.

[Omah]

I'll tell you what else does no one any favours, people lapping up every salacious detail of any sex scandal that hits the tabloids and believing every word is true. Especially - as it this case - if it fits in with the agenda that posh people are inherently bad.

Well, it were a posh person wot dun it ..... :shrug:

I hope that none of the torch-and-pitchfork-carrying hysterics on these threads are ever falsely accused of anything because only then will they realise how dangerous a situation that is. Every time I see another of these threads pop up and read posts from people beating their own breasts with grief and outrage, I remember the baying mob who besieged the house of a paediatrician and daubed her walls with anti-paedophile graffiti.

Well, now you're entering Cameron territory - we have a PM who thinks paedos and gays are synonymous ..... what made him think of that, when nobody else had mentioned a connection ..... :conf:

Incidentally, it is no secret that children in care homes have a rough time. If people put as much effort and energy into doing something about it that they put into talking about it, there probably wouldn't be a problem.

That would be 40 minutes "talking" time a day for me, then - not much time "doing" time, there ..... :nono:

Still, better to talk about it than turn a blind eye while someone else brushes under the carpet .....:pipe:

[Kizzy]

I'll tell you what else does no one any favours, people lapping up every salacious detail of any sex scandal that hits the tabloids and believing every word is true. Especially - as it this case - if it fits in with the agenda that posh people are inherently bad.

I hope that none of the torch-and-pitchfork-carrying hysterics on these threads are ever falsely accused of anything because only then will they realise how dangerous a situation that is. Every time I see another of these threads pop up and read posts from people beating their own breasts with grief and outrage, I remember the baying mob who besieged the house of a paediatrician and daubed her walls with anti-paedophile graffiti.

Incidentally, it is no secret that children in care homes have a rough time. If people put as much effort and energy into doing something about it that they put into talking about it, there probably wouldn't be a problem.

Who has suggested 'posh people' are inherently bad?
What a bizarre generalization...
The point of a forum is to debate issues, to suggest that some forum members are so blinkered they couldn't decipher between a peadophile and a peadiatrician is rather insulting.
Discussing these topics is a way of sharing ideas and information. However, we are not in a position to affect how authorities conduct their affairs regarding social services...
As the general public we elect those who would do that...

[Livia]

Well, it were a posh person wot dun it ..... :shrug:

Well, now you're entering Cameron territory - we have a PM who thinks paedos and gays are synonymous ..... what made him think of that, when nobody else had mentioned a connection ..... :conf:

That would be 40 minutes "talking" time a day for me, then - not much time "doing" time, there ..... :nono:

Still, better to talk about it than turn a blind eye while someone else brushes under the carpet .....:pipe:

So little of that makes sense, and so little concerns what I said I really can't be bothered to sort out the muddle... so I'll just say this concerning your "doing time" comment. You elect people to your local authority who make decisions about Children's Services. Forty minutes would be long enough to email your local county or city councillor and enquire who represents you on the Children's Services committee, how your local care homes are run, what's being done to improve facilities etc. I wonder how many people even know the name of their councillor? And yet they receive payment to represent you and your views, whatever party their represent, and whether or not you voted for them.

[Omah]

So little of that makes sense, and so little concerns what I said I really can't be bothered to sort out the muddle... so I'll just say this concerning your "doing time" comment. You elect people to your local authority who make decisions about Children's Services. Forty minutes would be long enough to email your local county or city councillor and enquire who represents you on the Children's Services committee, how your local care homes are run, what's being done to improve facilities etc. I wonder how many people even know the name of their councillor? And yet they receive payment to represent you and your views, whatever party their represent, and whether or not you voted for them.

I AM a local councillor ..... :pipe:

[Tom4784]

I'll tell you what else does no one any favours, people lapping up every salacious detail of any sex scandal that hits the tabloids and believing every word is true. Especially - as it this case - if it fits in with the agenda that posh people are inherently bad.

I hope that none of the torch-and-pitchfork-carrying hysterics on these threads are ever falsely accused of anything because only then will they realise how dangerous a situation that is. Every time I see another of these threads pop up and read posts from people beating their own breasts with grief and outrage, I remember the baying mob who besieged the house of a paediatrician and daubed her walls with anti-paedophile graffiti.

Incidentally, it is no secret that children in care homes have a rough time. If people put as much effort and energy into doing something about it that they put into talking about it, there probably wouldn't be a problem.

I agree with this.

Investigate the claims if they hold weight and if the person in question is guilty then justly punish them.
These witch hunts will lead nowhere though since nothing good can come from a mob mentality and hysteria.

[Kizzy]

I AM a local councillor ..... :pipe:

:joker:

[Omah]

Investigate the claims if they hold weight and if the person in question is guilty then justly punish them.

Who's to investigate - do we trust the police, who belong to the same masonic lodges as the parliamentarians ..... :puzzled:

[Tom4784]

Who's to investigate - do we trust the police, who belong to the same masonic lodges as the parliamentarians ..... :puzzled:

I trust them far more then a bunch of wretched tabloids that seeks only controversy and luring it's easily led audience into a mob mentality. I place faith in cold hard undeniable evidence, I'm not going to condemn someone on the word of a trashy tabloid that's gotten it wrong before.

[Livia]

I AM a local councillor ..... :pipe:

If that is true, and I have to say I find it next to impossible to believe, then really, it's shameful you know so little about how everything works and you really should be doing more to changing things and encouraging others to, rather than posting the uncorroborated words of a tabloid journalist day after day.

[Livia]

Who's to investigate - do we trust the police, who belong to the same masonic lodges as the parliamentarians ..... :puzzled:

You really are wildly overestimating the influence of the Masons on both the police and on Parliament.

[Kizzy]

Dezzy, the tabloids and the government have been hand in glove for many a year.
Have you heard of the Leveson inquiry?

[Tom4784]

Dezzy, the tabloids and the government have been hand in glove for many a year.
Have you heard of the Leveson inquiry?

Doesn't mean you should take everything they say as the gospel truth.

[Kizzy]

How is anyone meant to share information?...
Seriously... news is recorded and reported and we read it.
How else are we supposed to get it?
:)

[Tom4784]

There's more to the news than Tabloids Kizzy.

[Kizzy]

Doesn't mean you should take everything they say as the gospel truth.

Who does that?...
I certainly don't.

[Kizzy]

There's more to the news than Tabloids Kizzy.

I know this thankyou.

[Omah]

If that is true, and I have to say I find it next to impossible to believe, then really, it's shameful you know so little about how everything works and you really should be doing more to changing things and encouraging others to, rather than posting the uncorroborated words of a tabloid journalist day after day.

How little YOU know ..... ;)

[Omah]

I trust them far more then a bunch of wretched tabloids that seeks only controversy and luring it's easily led audience into a mob mentality. I place faith in cold hard undeniable evidence, I'm not going to condemn someone on the word of a trashy tabloid that's gotten it wrong before.

Do you only read the tabloids?


Personally, I extend my selection to include any source of relevance ..... :pipe:

[Omah]

You really are wildly overestimating the influence of the Masons on both the police and on Parliament.

How do you know?

Are YOU a mason or a policeman or a parliamentarian?

[Omah]

Who does that?...
I certainly don't.

Me, neither ..... :hmph:

[arista]

Do you only read the tabloids?


Personally, I extend my selection to include any source of relevance ..... :pipe:


Yes
SkyNewsHD
France24
CNN USA Online
Huff post Online

[Kizzy]

I haven't read a tabloid in about 15yrs...
Wouldn't wipe my arse with the mail.
The rest are only good for wrapping chips.

[Tom4784]

XuZjwLOY_os

:pipe:

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20266118

Lord McAlpine has "no choice" but to take legal action over claims of abuse at a north Wales children's home, the Conservative peer's solicitor has said.

Andrew Reid said claims linking the peer to alleged historical child abuse were "false and seriously defamatory".

The solicitor was critical of the BBC's Newsnight, on which claims were made although no-one was named.

The BBC has said an abuse victim had serious allegations to make and deserved to be heard on Newsnight.

Asked by BBC Radio 4's PM programme if Lord McAlpine would take legal action, Mr Reid said: "Sadly he has no choice.

:pipe:

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20269114

A former resident of a north Wales care home has apologised for making false allegations of sexual abuse against a Conservative politician.

Steve Messham said a case of mistaken identity had led to peer Lord McAlpine being linked to the historical claims.

Mr Messham offered "sincere and humble apologies" to the peer and his family.

In a statement on Friday evening, Mr Messham said: "After seeing a picture in the past hour of the individual concerned, this [is] not the person I identified by photograph presented to me by the police in the early 1990s, who told me the man in the photograph was Lord McAlpine."

:idc:

[arista]

On Ch4News now

[arista]

The Lord is Not the Man
says Steve Meesham

Live On Ch4News now.

Omah change your heading - as its no longer just him "claims"
as he is Not the pedo

BBC Newsnight Got it Wrong
The Guardian Got it wrong


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/09/newsnight-lord-mcalpine-abuse-allegations

[Omah]

OK - Done ..... :thumbs:

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20277732

The BBC has issued an unreserved apology for a Newsnight report which led to Lord McAlpine being wrongly implicated in the alleged sexual abuse of children at north Wales care homes.

It comes after a victim, Steve Messham, apologised to the former Tory treasurer after saying he did not assault him.

Newsnight had reported Mr Messham's claims against a leading 1980s Tory politician but did not name him.

The BBC also announced an "immediate pause" in all Newsnight investigations.

The BBC's statement said: "On 2 November, Newsnight broadcast a report that looked into criticism of the North Wales Abuse Tribunal.

"The report included an interview with Steve Messham, an abuse victim who said that a senior political figure of the time had abused him.

"We broadcast Mr Messham's claim but did not identify the individual concerned. Mr Messham has tonight made a statement that makes clear he wrongly identified his abuser and has apologised.

"We also apologise unreservedly for having broadcast this report."

The BBC said that, on Friday night, director general George Entwistle had ordered the following actions:


Sending in a senior news executive to "supervise" Friday night's edition of Newsnight
An apology broadcast on Friday's programme
An "immediate pause in all Newsnight investigations to assess editorial robustness and supervision"
Commissioning BBC Scotland director Ken MacQuarrie to write an "urgent report for the DG covering what happened on this Newsnight investigation"
An "immediate suspension" of all co-productions with the Bureau of Investigative Journalism which Newsnight worked with on the programme



Not good for Newsnight ..... :nono:

[billy123]

Witch-hunts R Us.The moronic behaviour of these people that partake in these witch hunts beggars belief its as if they dont have the intellect to realise what harm panic mongering can do.

I have had to distance myself from these hysteria driven imbeciles that behave in that manner.
The way some seem to revel in child murder, paedophilia allegations,missing people hunts and things of those type makes me shudder. Irresponsible is not the word.

ugghh do people not see how much they can hinder things? Do they actually think they are helping? it baffles me! im trying to stay away from emotive subjects as there are far too many people desperate to be offended by as much as possible but just thought i would say hola to the forum :)

[Omah]

The moronic behaviour of these people that partake in these witch hunts beggars belief its as if they dont have the intellect to realise what harm panic mongering can do.

I have had to distance myself from these hysteria driven imbeciles that behave in that manner.

The way some seem to revel in child murder, paedophilia allegations,missing people hunts and things of those type makes me shudder. Irresponsible is not the word.

ugghh do people not see how much they can hinder things? Do they actually think they are helping? it baffles me! im trying to stay away from emotive subjects as there are far too many people desperate to be offended by as much as possible but just thought i would say hola to the forum :)

Yeah, far better to turn a blind eye, let bygones be bygones and sweep it under the carpet ..... :pipe:

[Omah]

BREAKING NEWS:BBC DG Entwistle: The Newsnight film on child abuse in north Wales should not have gone out

[Benjamin]

It's a shame there was no "witch-hunt" for Savile when he was young - they could have strung him up and spared hundreds of children the degradation of his molestation and violation ..... :hmph:

Turning a blind eye never did anyone any favours ..... :nono:

But blaming innocent people (like what has just happened) does the world favours?

[arista]

BREAKING NEWS:BBC DG Entwistle: The Newsnight film on child abuse in north Wales should not have gone out

Its a Bucket of Worms
Utter Mess


GE
looks so guilty on BBC News (this morning)
(of course he has only just started his job)
trying to save Newsnight.


Meanwhile
Media Guardian Expert Steve Hewlett
on SkyNewsHD
said taking the Newsnight Editor
away has not worked
a BBC Radio 5 News Boss is trying to sort
Newsnight out.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/stevehewlett

[Omah]

But blaming innocent people (like what has just happened) does the world favours?

IIRC, Mr Messham laid the blame ..... :idc:

[Kizzy]

Ah, are we to expect the investigation to grind to a halt now due to this mix up in family members?...I hope not
There is still the matter of the evidence which was destroyed following the 90's inquiry?
Mr Meesham has been discredited rather unfairly... It's not his fault that the blame was laid at Lord McAlpines door...
He was a child victim of systematic abuse... He gave names, times, dates, places and even photographic evidence.
What else could he do?
Was it not the job of the inquiry to piece together this evidence and correctly identify the suspect?

[arista]

Newsnight needs its proper Editor back,
and must Stop sending out tweets to press
as they got it wrong.


"George Entwistle admits Newsnight Tory
sex abuse claims should never have been broadcast
The BBC's director general George Entwistle
has admitted the Newsnight film which
wrongly accused a senior Conservative
figure of child abuse should never
have been broadcast, but he refused
to resign over the issue."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9668823/George-Entwistle-admits-Newsnight-Tory-sex-abuse-claims-should-never-have-been-broadcast.html

[Livia]

I hope that Lord McAlpine is able to sue for libel and defamation of character, the people who named him on the Internet. Steve Messham who is claiming he was abused as a child never named Lord McAlpine, the hysterics did. Consequently Mr Messham's Case has been weakened considerably and the focus taken off the real issue. And it looks like some of those hysterics are still putting two and two together and coming up with twenty two.

Are people really so simple that they feel they can accuse people of the most heinous of crimes with no evidence whatsoever? The profound stupidity of some people astounds me sometimes

[Kizzy]

Whipping people into a frenzy is the speciality of the British media.
We are not aware how Lord McAlpines name became linked to this case, blaming the victim however is not going to benefit anyone I feel.
Why the anger has been redirected away from the focus of the issue I don't know.

[arista]

Yes the Victim
still has to find the Pedo gang.

But the BBC Staff sent tweets
they started the frenzy,
Newsnight does not have the Proper Editor
they need him back.

The BBC newsnight team do a good job
most times.
They are even now on BBCHD at 10:30PM as well
as BBC2.


But the point is Newsnight
first claimed they were going to name him
they must stop tweets.

[Omah]

Are people really so simple that they feel they can accuse people of the most heinous of crimes with no evidence whatsoever? The profound stupidity of some people astounds me sometimes

Yeah, me too ..... :sad:

Apparently, some people believe Jimmy Savile is innocent ..... :amazed:

[Omah]

I hope that Lord McAlpine is able to sue for libel and defamation of character, the people who named him on the Internet. Steve Messham who is claiming he was abused as a child never named Lord McAlpine, the hysterics did.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20269114

Steve Messham said police had shown him a picture of his abuser but incorrectly told him the man was Lord McAlpine.

The BBC's Newsnight reported his claims against a leading 1980s Tory politician but did not name Lord McAlpine.

The BBC apologised "unreservedly" for airing it and announced an "immediate pause" in Newsnight investigations.

Meanwhile, Lord McAlpine's solicitor says he will take legal action against those who later named and linked him to the claims.

Mr Messham has offered "sincere and humble apologies" to the peer and his family.

In a statement on Friday evening Mr Messham said: "After seeing a picture in the past hour of the individual concerned, this [is] not the person I identified by photograph presented to me by the police in the early 1990s, who told me the man in the photograph was Lord McAlpine."

So Mr Messham believed his abuser WAS Lord McAlpine - hence, the police are to blame for the so-called "witch-hunt" ..... :pipe:

[Kizzy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20269114



So Mr Messham believed his abuser WAS Lord McAlpine - hence, the police are to blame for the so-called "witch-hunt" ..... :pipe:

Hmmm... can everyone pass your pitchforks to the right please?.... ;)

[Omah]

Hmmm... can everyone pass your pitchforks to the right please?.... ;)

Which witch are we witch-hunting now ?

:conf:

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/10/article-2230292-15F2E4E2000005DC-880_308x187.jpg
Well Done John Humphrys


"Today, PM David Cameron refused
to comment on the BBC's growing crisis"


Yes good move PM
let the Bloated BBC sort it.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230292/BBC-Director-General-admits-Newsnight-scandal-documentary-gone-humiliating-grilling-live-air-presenter.html#ixzz2BqBgrBWr

[Omah]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230292/BBC-Director-General-admits-Newsnight-scandal-documentary-gone-humiliating-grilling-live-air-presenter.html#ixzz2BqBgrBWr

'Winnie the Pooh would have been more effective': BBC chief faces calls to quit after humiliating interview with his own presenter in wake of Newsnight sex abuse scandal

George Entwistle admits he did not watch last weekend's BBC2 show
Mr Entwistle knew nothing about it - until a member of staff told him


He didn't read yesterday's papers in which the report finally unraveled
The BBC chief described the report on child abuse as 'unacceptable'
He warns staff involved in the programme could now disciplinary action
Today, PM David Cameron refused to comment on the BBC's growing crisis
Former Minister David Mellor said: 'He came across as so out of touch'
Former PCC chairman Sir Christopher Meyer said: 'Humphrys' humiliation of Entwistle almost painful to listen to.'


:amazed:

David Mellor, the former cabinet minister with responsibility for the BBC, said: 'I feel so disillussioned that such a man can rise without trace to be Director General.

If Entwistle was the best candidate in the first, the field can not have been better than the selling plate at Fakenham race course.'

:joker:

[Kizzy]

Which witch are we witch-hunting now ?

:conf:

Well... panorama is blaming newsnight, the media are blaming the BBC, the government are blaming George Entwistle, Lord McAlpine is blaming the internet, the public are blaming Phillip Schofield, and the victim is blaming the police
So I dunno...
:conf:

[arista]

"government are blaming George Entwistle"


No
Stop your Twizzle
the PM has said leave it to Nick Pollard and the others.

[Kizzy]

"government are blaming George Entwistle"


No
Stop your Twizzle
the PM has said leave it to Nick Pollard and the others.

Stop your twizzle arista...
If we are to think laterally on this why are you posting quotes from the mail...
A tabloid with a distinct political agenda?

[arista]

I post the D. Mail to help Omah get a new heading.


I buy the Guardian
but I find the D.Mail Online has great Photo Mixes
I can use.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/10/bbc-chief-unaware-newsnight-tory-peer
Link For Kizzy


Life In The City.

[arista]

On Ch4News now

Its great to have a Ch4News report
nothing like the BBC.

[Omah]

http://news.sky.com/story/1009588/bbc-boss-was-unaware-of-child-abuse-slur

George Entwistle admitted he did not know about the Newsnight investigation until the day after it was broadcast and had not seen newspaper reports casting doubts on the probe.

The BBC boss said he had also been unaware of a tweet 12 hours before the programme aired, from the Bureau of Investigative Journalism - which worked on the report - suggesting it was going to identify a senior political figure.

"I didn't see that tweet. This tweet was not brought to my attention so I found out about this film after it had gone out," he told the BBC's Today programme.

George missed a tweet ..... :pipe:

[Omah]

LATEST:Bureau of Investigative Journalism's trustees 'appalled' over apparent breach of its standards in Newsnight report

[arista]

He Has Resigned

Live On News


New Heading Omah
"BBC Director-General George Entwistle Resigns"



Tim Davie takes over as Acting General of the BBC.

"Presenters including J. Paxman had refused
to front last Friday’s Newsnight
which apologised for the previous
week’s broadcast, a source said. "
Good on J. Paxman



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/10/article-2230292-15F5F6F7000005DC-893_634x475.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/10/article-2230292-15F5F7D4000005DC-922_634x337.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/11/10/203307/default/v1/page1-1-1-329x437.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/11/10/203312/default/v1/su11.01-1-329x437.jpg

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[arista]

Sadly he was unluky
as Newsnight was featured on the ITV Docu
and last week Newsnight made another error.

[Omah]

If ever a man was ever promoted above his station ..... :pipe:

[Omah]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=215208

David Cameron may try to distance himself from the scandal engulfing the BBC, but it has brought him embarrassment close to home.

For it was his best friend, the Eton- and Oxford-educated headhunter Dominic Loehnis, who recruited George Entwistle to be director general of the BBC. Cameron was best man at Loehnis's wedding and Loehnis attended Cameron's 44th birthday party at Chequers in 2010. Loehnis ran the recruitment process at headhunters Egon Zehnder, and provided the BBC Trust with a list of candidates, including "advice about the suitability of each candidate". As Entwistle has shown himself to be unsuitable for the job, shouldn't Egon Zehnder give its fees back? After all, they charge enough. It wasn't much of a hunt, either, as Entwistle was BBC head of vision when found. Since 2010, Egon Zehnder has billed the BBC almost £400,000 plus VAT to fill three senior vacancies – digital media director, head of vision and director general. And two of these posts they filled with … George Entwistle!

Well, waddya know ..... :rolleyes:

[arista]

Ex-BBC Boss In Line For £450,000 Payment

He gets a Years Pay.

http://news.sky.com/story/1010081/ex-bbc-boss-in-line-for-450000-payment

[Omah]

He'll walk into another job within the month ..... ;)

[microscope]

Ex-BBC Boss In Line For £450,000 Payment

He gets a Years Pay.

http://news.sky.com/story/1010081/ex-bbc-boss-in-line-for-450000-payment

This is the trouble you see. A mistake gets made and someone gets named of doing a terrible crime such as paedophelia which is looked upon as more serious than murder and rape these days :rolleyes: But then after the mistake gets made, the man responsable gets the option to resign and receive a massive payout. That is ridiculous and should be a crime itself. He gets paid for a year ahead which he is not going to even do a days work for, nevermind a year !! To be honest, he should be fined massively for a blunder such as this and not even have enough money left to own a house or car. Permanently in debt should be his future or anyone else who wrongly accuses someone of this crime. As this crime ruins a persons life forever.

[Kazanne]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=215208



Well, waddya know ..... :rolleyes:

My God this is getting silly,how the hell was Cameron to know these things would happen as far as i know he's not a mind reader,it's all getting a bit desperate to pin all the worlds wrongs on him now,ffs,it's individuals accountable for their actions,not one person to take all the blame,jeez:nono:You sound so smug at the end there as though you've unearthed some great news:sleep::sleep::sleep:

[Omah]

This is the trouble you see. A mistake gets made and someone gets named of doing a terrible crime such as paedophelia which is looked upon as more serious than murder and rape these days :rolleyes: But then after the mistake gets made, the man responsable gets the option to resign and receive a massive payout. That is ridiculous and should be a crime itself. He gets paid for a year ahead which he is not going to even do a days work for, nevermind a year !! To be honest, he should be fined massively for a blunder such as this and not even have enough money left to own a house or car. Permanently in debt should be his future or anyone else who wrongly accuses someone of this crime. As this crime ruins a persons life forever.

Erm, aren't you the one who goes on about innocent until proven guilty, trial by media, gullible public, mob-handed, etc, etc ..... ;)

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5609459#post5609459

So, sticking up for alleged sex-offenders is OK and so is putting the metaphorical boot into an incompetent but honourable executive ..... :spin:

[Omah]

My God this is getting silly,how the hell was Cameron to know these things would happen as far as i know he's not a mind reader,it's all getting a bit desperate to pin all the worlds wrongs on him now,ffs,it's individuals for their actions,not one person to take all the blame,jeez:nono:You sound so smug at the end there as though you've unearthed some great news:sleep::sleep::sleep:

Another personal attack from someone who should know better ..... :bored:

[microscope]

originally posted by omah
originally posted by microscope

This is the trouble you see. A mistake gets made and someone gets named of doing a terrible crime such as paedophelia which is looked upon as more serious than murder and rape these days But then after the mistake gets made, the man responsable gets the option to resign and receive a massive payout. That is ridiculous and should be a crime itself. He gets paid for a year ahead which he is not going to even do a days work for, nevermind a year !! To be honest, he should be fined massively for a blunder such as this and not even have enough money left to own a house or car. Permanently in debt should be his future or anyone else who wrongly accuses someone of this crime. As this crime ruins a persons life forever.

Erm, aren't you the one who goes on about innocent until proven guilty, trial by media, gullible public, mob-handed, etc, etc ..... ;)

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5609459#post5609459

So, sticking up for alleged sex-offenders is OK and so is putting the metaphorical boot into an incompetent but honourable executive ..... :spin:

He has resigned and a man was named who didn't commit that crime. The accused crime being 'paedophelia'. Something that isn't taken lightly these days in a politically correct society where the nanny state rules and the majority of the general public wish to see that person put to death and tortured...get my drift?? So on that note I think that someone or more who causes that to happen should equally be punished and hit them where it hurts and that is with their huge bank balance. But in this case he has been given a golden hand-shake of a years salary which hardly seems fair. It also gives out the wrong signals as more will follow and make false allegations, whether deliberate or accidental.

I am not just accusing this one man either. It's obviously more than just him. But someone has to carry the can, as the BBC is a very big organisation and they need to do something very quick and hope this passes over very quickly unlike the Hutton enquiry and the Phone hacking scandal.

[Omah]

He has resigned and a man was named who didn't commit that crime. The accused crime being 'paedophelia'. Something that isn't taken lightly these days in a politically correct society where the nanny state rules and the majority of the general public wish to see that person put to death and tortured...get my drift??

The man who named the man who can't be named was the man who was abused by the man who wasn't the man who can't be named but another man who was identified to the man who was abused as a man with the same name as the man who can't be named ..... get my drift??

So on that note I think that someone or more who causes that to happen should equally be punished and hit them where it hurts and that is with their huge bank balance.

As I understand it, Entwistle didn't cause anything to happen - it was his lack of curiosity and his inaction which enabled others to make disastrous decisions.

But in this case he has been given a golden hand-shake of a years salary which hardly seems fair. It also gives out the wrong signals as more will follow and make false allegations, whether deliberate or accidental.

How does a golden handshake for Entwistle "give out the wrong signals as more will follow and make false allegations, whether deliberate or accidental"

:conf:


I am not just accusing this one man either.

Yes, you are .....

It's obviously more than just him. But someone has to carry the can, as the BBC is a very big organisation and they need to do something very quick and hope this passes over very quickly unlike the Hutton enquiry and the Phone hacking scandal.

It's not just the BBC and it's not just Entwistle :

Hours before that evening's edition of Newsnight, the programme's former political editor Michael Crick tweets "'Senior political figure' due to be accused tonight by BBC of being paedophile denies allegations + tells me he'll issue libel writ agst BBC".

He adds that the person - now known to be Lord McAlpine - said he had not been contacted by the BBC for his response to the allegations.

The tweets by Mr Crick, who now works for Channel 4, follow an earlier one made by Iain Overton, editor of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism whose reporter Angus Stickler led the Newsnight investigation.

In a now deleted post, which has been retweeted 1,574 times, Mr Overton writes: "If all goes well we've got a Newsnight out tonight about a very senior political figure who is a paedophile."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20286848

You are aware, of course, that other events have happened at the BBC and Helen Boaden, director of news and Steve Mitchell, deputy director of news and head of news programmes have "stepped aside" while enquiries are ongoing, a process which will take some weeks, at least ..... and a new DG has to be found, too .....

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20287211

Caroline Thomson has emerged as one of the bookies' favourites to replace George Entwistle who has resigned as director general of the BBC.

The corporation's former chief operating officer left her post in September after failing to nail the top job in July.

Ladbrokes is offering 5/2 odds on Ms Thomson, while Paddypower has offered even-odds on Ofcom boss Ed Richards.

Tim Davie has been appointed as acting director general.

The director of BBC Audio and Music is close behind Mr Richards on odds of 2-1, with director of news Helen Boaden and Danny Cohen, the head of BBC One, also mentioned as possible contenders.

Could a previous loser replace a displaced winner ?

Could Helen Boaden really get promoted?

Mr Richards - who worked for both Gordon Brown and Tony Blair at number 10 - was famously referred to by former director general Greg Dyke as a "jumped-up Millbank oik" at a Royal Television Society conference in 2003.

Lord Patten, chairman of the BBC Trust said a new director general would be appointed within the next few weeks.

[microscope]

originally posted by omah
originally posted by microscope

He has resigned and a man was named who didn't commit that crime. The accused crime being 'paedophelia'. Something that isn't taken lightly these days in a politically correct society where the nanny state rules and the majority of the general public wish to see that person put to death and tortured...get my drift??

The man who named the man who can't be named was the man who was abused by the man who wasn't the man who can't be named but another man who was identified to the man who was abused as a man with the same name as the man who can't be named ..... get my drift??

That makes as much sense as Einstein's theory of relativity would to a member of 'Little Mix' lmao :sleep: And also doesn't change the fact that the person named wasn't a paedophile.

originally posted by omah
originally posted by microscope

So on that note I think that someone or more who causes that to happen should equally be punished and hit them where it hurts and that is with their huge bank balance.

As I understand it, Entwistle didn't cause anything to happen - it was his lack of curiosity and his inaction which enabled others to make disastrous decisions.

He resigned for nothing then???

And please read what I put. I said, 'someone or more'. There is plenty at fault at the BBC.

originally posted by omah
originally posted by microscope

But in this case he has been given a golden hand-shake of a years salary which hardly seems fair. It also gives out the wrong signals as more will follow and make false allegations, whether deliberate or accidental.

How does a golden handshake for Entwistle "give out the wrong signals as more will follow and make false allegations, whether deliberate or accidental"

Well if you are an ageing head of a corporation with a huge paypacket and the worst you are going to get is the option to resign and a year ahead's sallary when perhaps he was thinking of retirement anyway? Then it gives out the wrong signal to others in an important job that making a mistake such as this (whether be himself or others under him within that organisation) that naming someone who isn't a paedophile as being so is not going to hurt you that much finantially. I'm not just zoning in on paedophelia either, it could be anything really.

originally posted by omah
originally posted by microscope

I am not just accusing this one man either.

Yes, you are .....

I said 'someone or more'. The quote is above and below :xyxwave:

originally posted by omah
originally posted by microscope

It's obviously more than just him. But someone has to carry the can, as the BBC is a very big organisation and they need to do something very quick and hope this passes over very quickly unlike the Hutton enquiry and the Phone hacking scandal.

It's not just the BBC and it's not just Entwistle :

I never said it was just 'Entwistle', which is why I said 'someone or more', which you fail to acknowledge?

I couldn't care less how far the scope goes in regards to blame. All I hate is people being falsely accused of something and those who make those mistakes get off so lightly, but the damage it can do to those who do get falsely accused is massive. Especially with this crime.


Hours before that evening's edition of Newsnight, the programme's former political editor Michael Crick tweets "'Senior political figure' due to be accused tonight by BBC of being paedophile denies allegations + tells me he'll issue libel writ agst BBC".

He adds that the person - now known to be Lord McAlpine - said he had not been contacted by the BBC for his response to the allegations.

The tweets by Mr Crick, who now works for Channel 4, follow an earlier one made by Iain Overton, editor of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism whose reporter Angus Stickler led the Newsnight investigation.

In a now deleted post, which has been retweeted 1,574 times, Mr Overton writes: "If all goes well we've got a Newsnight out tonight about a very senior political figure who is a paedophile."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20286848

originally posted by omah
You are aware, of course, that other events have happened at the BBC and Helen Boaden, director of news and Steve Mitchell, deputy director of news and head of news programmes have "stepped aside" while enquiries are ongoing, a process which will take some weeks, at least ..... and a new DG has to be found, too .....

And...So... What difference does all this make exactly??

All I am saying is that when someone makes a mistake of this magnitude, then those who are responsable for this should get more of a punishment than a simple resignation or a small fine. And Entwistle did resign, which makes him guilty anyway to the majority gullable public. But I doubt they would really care to be honest, as it's not them it's happening to. They haven't been falsely accused.

[Omah]

That makes as much sense as Einstein's theory of relativity would to a member of 'Little Mix' lmao :sleep: And also doesn't change the fact that the person named wasn't a paedophile.



He resigned for nothing then???

And please read what I put. I said, 'someone or more'. There is plenty at fault at the BBC.



Well if you are an ageing head of a corporation with a huge paypacket and the worst you are going to get is the option to resign and a year ahead's sallary when perhaps he was thinking of retirement anyway? Then it gives out the wrong signal to others in an important job that making a mistake such as this (whether be himself or others under him within that organisation) that naming someone who isn't a paedophile as being so is not going to hurt you that much finantially. I'm not just zoning in on paedophelia either, it could be anything really.



I said 'someone or more'. The quote is above and below :xyxwave:



I never said it was just 'Entwistle', which is why I said 'someone or more', which you fail to acknowledge?

I couldn't care less how far the scope goes in regards to blame. All I hate is people being falsely accused of something and those who make those mistakes get off so lightly, but the damage it can do to those who do get falsely accused is massive. Especially with this crime.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20286848



And...So... What difference does all this make exactly??

All I am saying is that when someone makes a mistake of this magnitude, then those who are responsable for this should get more of a punishment than a simple resignation or a small fine. And Entwistle did resign, which makes him guilty anyway to the majority gullable public. But I doubt they would really care to be honest, as it's not them it's happening to. They haven't been falsely accused.

It seems you "freedom-fighters" are all for "not guilty" or "innocent until proved guilty" for alleged (or dead) sex-offenders but "guilty because there" for a corporate executive .....

AFAIK, Entwistle is "guilty" of no crime - he may be inept, but I don't believe that merits the intervention of the CPS ..... :nono:

If you want to attack corporate executives, go for the real criminals - the bankers ..... ;)

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20286202

The current leadership crisis at the BBC should not overshadow child abuse allegations which sparked it, a former children's minister has said.

Director general George Entwistle quit over Newsnight's reporting of north Wales child abuse and a shelved report on abuse by ex-BBC DJ Jimmy Savile.

But MP Tim Loughton said the media focus on the resignation was "deeply frustrating".

"We really mustn't forget that this is about child abuse," he said.

"This is about vulnerable children and young people, going back many decades, who have been subject to pretty horrific abuse," Mr Loughton said, who was a children's minister until September.

"In the vast majority of cases, it is by ordinary people, people in positions of trust who are there to look after them and singularly failed.

"The real purpose is to root out child abuse that has gone on in the past, bring the perpetrators to book, give the victims some closure and make sure that it's not happening in 2012."

Exactly, all else is mere distraction - responsible adults can look after themselves ..... :pipe:

[arista]

BBC News director Helen Boaden and deputy Stephen Mitchell 'step aside'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231648/BBC-News-director-Helen-Boaden-deputy-Stephen-Mitchell-stand-aside.html#ixzz2C02uEGRl


That makes sense as they
are not able do their full job at this time.

[Livia]

It seems you "freedom-fighters" are all for "not guilty" or "innocent until proved guilty" for alleged (or dead) sex-offenders but "guilty because there" for a corporate executive .....



...And it seems you scandal-mongers are happy to assume that anyone who's accused is guilty so long as they're accused of something juicy. I wonder how you'd feel if someone accused you, and everyone said "well, there's no smoke without fire..."?

A corporate executive is paid the large salary and gets the best parking space because the buck stops with them.

[Omah]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9671132/Threat-to-Lord-Patten-as-BBC-chief-George-Entwistle-gets-1.3m-pay-off.html

Mr Entwistle, who resigned on Saturday night after just 54 days in the job, leaves with a £450,000 lump sum on top of his £877,000 pension pot, which was described as “unjustifiable and unacceptable” by one MP.

A year's salary is more than generous but the equivalent of THREE YEARS SALARY is another example of the way the upper echelons of this country reward themselves like robber barons from taxes on the peasants ..... :mad:

Lord Patten insisted yesterday that he would not be resigning, but admitted his job would be on the line if he could not restore people’s “huge trust” in the BBC.

Downing Street said that Lord Patten retained the support of the Prime
Minister, but that position is likely to change if he is criticised by any of the three BBC internal inquiries due to report back in December on Savile and sexual harassment.

Obviously, Patten must now go, but how many MILLIONS will HE get if "asked to resign"

The Daily Telegraph has learnt that the Newsnight programme of Nov 2, in which a former care home resident wrongly claimed to have been abused by a senior Tory, was approved for transmission by one of the more junior members of the BBC’s 12-man management board.

Although the BBC refused to say who had given the go-ahead for the film, the Telegraph has established that it was one of four executives: Lucy Adams, director of human resources, Zarin Patel, chief financial officer, Peter Johnston, director of BBC Northern Ireland, or Rhodri Talfan Davies, director of BBC Wales.

Government sources said up to five other BBC executives might also have to resign when the findings of the BBC’s internal inquiries were made public.

Helen Boaden, the head of news, her deputy Steve Mitchell, Peter Rippon, the editor of Newsnight, and David Jordan, the head of editorial policy and standards, have already been tainted by last month’s Savile revelations, while Adrian van Klaveren, who approved last week’s Newsnight film as acting head of news, is in the dock over the latest fiasco.

Again, get rid of them by all means, but only give them what a sacked production assistant would get for time served ..... :hmph:

[Kizzy]

What exactly is a 'scandal monger'?
It has been revealed it was not the Lord, so it begs the question who was it?...
It also raises the questions 'How did so many get it so wrong for so long'?
In high profile cases there is no smoke without fire to be fair, if you are implicated then there is usually a reason... even if that reason is you can be placed at the scene and you share a surname with a named suspect.

On the subject of pensions and the £1.3 'awarded' to Mr Entwhisle, I hope he is one of the last in the long line of dinosaurs at the BBC. He and Patten must understand with great power comes great responsibility...

[Omah]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/george-entwistle-could-be-stripped-of-his--450000-payoff-8306067.html

The spending watchdog is to investigate the £450,000 pay-off – equivalent to a full year’s salary – given to George Entwistle after he resigned as BBC director-general after serving just 54 days in the post.

The National Audit Office (NAO) confirmed today that it would question the BBC Trust about the payment which has been condemned across the political spectrum.

Under the terms of Mr Entwistle’s contract, he was entitled to only six months' pay, but the BBC Trust said the extra payment had been agreed to reflect continuing involvement with internal inquiries underway.

As MPs lined up to denounce the move as a reward for failure, Maria Miller, the Culture Secretary, told them that the watchdog was empowered to carry out a value-for-money investigation of the use of any public funds. Last night a spokesman for the NAO said: “There is no doubt we will be talking to the BBC Trust about this.”


:pipe:

[Omah]

as she watched STRICTLY COME DANCING

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232083/George-Entwistles-450k-pay-signed-Lord-Pattens-deputy-watched-STRICTLY-COME-DANCING.html#ixzz2C7YzfRBE

Failed director general George Entwistle's 'obscene' £450,000 pay-off was signed off by a BBC Trust boss as she watched Strictly Come Dancing, it has been revealed.

Lord Patten telephoned his deputy Diana Coyle during the hit show on Saturday evening and they agreed that Entwistle should get double what he was entitled to if he did the 'honourable' thing and quit.

After the £1.3m deal was done, which also included a £877,000 pension pot, Ms Coyle went back to watching dancers like Denise Van Outen, Fern Britton, Kimberley Walsh, Michael Vaughan and Louis Smith, the BBC Trust confirmed to MailOnline.

After much consideration ..... :idc: ..... well, not really ..... :laugh2:

[arista]

"BBC staff handed twitter ban"

Possible New Heading - Omah



BBC staff handed twitter ban: Acting news boss pleads with unhappy workers to stay silent over abuse row

Heads of television, radio and news and the corporation's director general are all 'acting'
Temporary head of BBC news has asked staff not to Tweet 'our problems'
BBC veterans fear the situation will lead to further uncertainty and shelve decisions needed to reform culture
Acting director general Tim Davie says after a day in the job he already 'has a grip' on crisis
MacQuarrie report says nobody knew who was in charge so Davie has installed a chain of command


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232203/BBC-staff-handed-twitter-ban-Acting-news-boss-pleads-unhappy-workers-stay-silent-abuse-row.html#ixzz2C7rPuX7Z

[Marcus.]

"BBC staff handed twitter ban"

New Heading Omah



BBC staff handed twitter ban: Acting news boss pleads with unhappy workers to stay silent over abuse row

Heads of television, radio and news and the corporation's director general are all 'acting'
Temporary head of BBC news has asked staff not to Tweet 'our problems'
BBC veterans fear the situation will lead to further uncertainty and shelve decisions needed to reform culture
Acting director general Tim Davie says after a day in the job he already 'has a grip' on crisis
MacQuarrie report says nobody knew who was in charge so Davie has installed a chain of command


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232203/BBC-staff-handed-twitter-ban-Acting-news-boss-pleads-unhappy-workers-stay-silent-abuse-row.html#ixzz2C7rPuX7Z

oh hiding more are we

[Nedusa]

Has the BBC finally reached its sell by date, scandal after scandal allegations of Paedophile rings, corruption almost endemic, huge fat cat salaries and a massive licence fee all combine to make me wonder if the world has moved on leaving the BBC as an anachronism, a relic of days gone by.

Maybe better to break it up and sell it off to private companies...??

[Omah]

Has the BBC finally reached its sell by date, scandal after scandal allegations of Paedophile rings, corruption almost endemic, huge fat cat salaries and a massive licence fee all combine to make me wonder if the world has moved on leaving the BBC as an anachronism, a relic of days gone by.

Maybe better to break it up and sell it off to private companies...??

Yeah, privatisation will promote competition, encourage choice, lower standards and raise prices ..... :cool:

[Omah]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9676082/BBC-crisis-George-Entwistle-pay-off-is-beyond-reach-of-auditors.html

Maria Miller, the Culture Secretary, indicated in parliament on Monday that the government's public spending watchdog will review George Entwistle's severance pay.

However, the NAO yesterday confirmed that it is unable to launch an "immediate" inquiry unless the BBC Trust refers itself to the spending watchdog.

The government's spending watchdog has limited powers to scrutinise the BBC under an agreement intended to protect the corporation from political interference.

Lord Patten, the chairman of the BBC, admitted that he gave Mr Entwistle a payoff worth twice as much as he was entitled to to so he would go quietly.

The Prime Minister yesterday gave his support to Lord Patten despite admitting that the payout was "hard to justify".

He said: "On the BBC, we have said that clearly, it is hard to justify the payment that George Entwistle was given.

"But in terms of Chris Patten, the BBC is a vital national institution. It needs radical and urgent changes to get back on track.

"But I do believe we have to let the chairman of the Trust get on with the process, including the first step, hiring a new director general."

"Old boy network*" rules OK ..... ;)

On Monday, Maria Miller, the Culture Secretary, said on Monday: "The National Audit Office is empowered to conduct a value-for-money review of any issue.

"If it decides it wants to review this decision, I expect that the BBC would co-operate fully."

The National Audit Office yesterday confirmed that it wants to conduct a "quick" review of the payment.

However, under the terms of its agreement with the BBC it will have to wait until December 31st to begin any review, by which time the public spending watchdog fears it will be too late.

Amyas Morse, the Auditor General, yesterday wrote to Lord Patten saying he wanted to scrutinise the payment. The watchdog also confirmed it wanted more power to look at BBC accounts.

A spokesman for the National Audit Office said: "We stand ready to review the decision. We will be talking to the BBC Trust. We think that if such an examination is to be carried out it should be done quickly or not at all."

:idc:

* Patten worked for the Conservative Party from 1966, first as desk officer and then director (from 1974 to 1979) of the Conservative Research Department.

Patten was a Conservative Member of Parliament for Bath from 1979 to 1992, serving as Minister for Overseas Development at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office from 1986 to 1989.

In 1989 he was appointed to the Cabinet as Secretary of State for the Environment and became responsible for the unpopular Community Charge (or so-called "Poll Tax").

In 1990, John Major made Patten Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and Chairman of the Conservative Party, with responsibility for organising the coming general election campaign. As party chairman, he was widely considered to be the main architect of the somewhat unexpected Conservative victory in the 1992 election.

In July 1992, he became the 28th and the last Governor of Hong Kong until its handover to the People's Republic of China on 30 June 1997.


Tory top-gun ..... :dance2:

[Kizzy]

Have you only just cottoned on to Patten? ...tsk :)
Check out what he said in interviews with the guardian as he took over as chairman.
(sorry can't post links)

[Omah]

Have you only just cottoned on to Patten? ...tsk :)


No - I took part in the Poll Tax riots - some younger FMs, though, may have no idea of his Tory loyalty and his past "form" ..... hence the summary ..... :idc:

[arista]

Lord McAlpine gets £185,000 plus costs from the BBC


Ref: SkyNewsHD Business Report


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/nov/15/bbc-lord-mcalpine-compensation-newsnight

[arista]

http://img.timeinc.net/time/images/covers/europe/2012/20121126_600.jpg

[Omah]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/22/jimmy-savile-scandal-george-entwistle-evidence

George Entwistle, the former BBC director general, is expected to give evidence on Monday before Nick Pollard's inquiry into the handling of Newsnight's aborted investigation into sexual abuse by the late Jimmy Savile, in a demanding hearing that will see him grilled on what he knew about it by a silk.

The much criticised executive spent the last days of his short-lived director generalship preparing intensively for his appearance, which is expected to last several hours, and comes as the Pollard inquiry moves into its third week of evidence, having seen most of the senior BBC executives touched by the Savile film that never aired.

It is likely to be an exacting experience for a man who clearly struggled when he had to give evidence before MPs on on the culture media and sport select committee last month, and who performed poorly when interviewed by John Humphrys on the Today programme on the morning of what turned out to be the day he resigned.

Not just exacting, but excruciating ..... :eek:

[Omah]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/dec/18/bbc-pollard-report-newsnight-jimmy-savile

The BBC is planning to publish on Wednesday the much-anticipated Pollard report into the handling of the abandoned late 2011 Newsnight investigation into child abuse by Jimmy Savile.

The report is due to be handed over to the BBC acting director general Tim Davie on Tuesday afternoon, with plans in place to publish the report along with witness statements and all relevant evidence including emails on Wednesday, or the latest Thursday.

:idc:

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20781287

An inquiry into Newsnight's shelving of a report on sexual abuse by Jimmy Savile has published its findings.

Key points:

No evidence of a cover-up of Newsnight's Savile investigation
The decision to drop Savile investigation was flawed
The editor and deputy editor of Newsnight are to be replaced
Head of BBC News to return to her post

Top tier of management not to to blame, obviously ..... :rolleyes:

[Omah]

Newsnight: MacQuarrie report

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20784534

A report into a Newsnight programme which led to a former senior Tory politician being wrongly implicated in child abuse has concluded that it was a "serious failure of BBC journalism".

The report found that basic journalistic checks were not carried out, the story had been badly managed and the decision to broadcast the report was wrong.

As expected ..... :idc:

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/12/19/210571/default/v1/mirror-1-329x437.jpg

[Omah]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9756956/BBC-chiefs-survive-Jimmy-Savile-fiasco.html#

A £2 million review commissioned by the corporation concluded that bitter infighting, flawed decision-making and “rigid management chains” led to one of the biggest crises in the corporation’s history.

It found that executives were warned nearly two years ago about Savile’s “dark side” but still pressed ahead with tribute programmes about the presenter.

Six senior executives and editors were singled out for criticism in the reports – the findings of which were accepted by the BBC in full – but none have been fired. Two have quit, three are being moved into new positions in the BBC and one has kept her job.

The decision not to fire anyone was taken by the broadcaster and approved by the BBC Trust, which is headed by Lord Patten of Barnes. The Trust has no power to remove staff except the director-general.

The BBC is as bad as the bankers in looking after the interests of its "top tier" ..... :rolleyes:

[Kizzy]

Newsnight: MacQuarrie report

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20784534



As expected ..... :idc:

Anyone who believes the BBC were at the crux of this (s)tory cover up at the time.
They thought they had paid enough to bury this years ago..

[Omah]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/81-bbc-staff-face-sex-allegations-in-wake-of-jimmy-savile-scandal-8637443.html

Sexual allegations about 81 BBC staff have been reported since the Jimmy Savile scandal came to light - with almost half still working for the corporation.

New figures show that 40 of the people whose names have come up since October 3 are either current staff or contributors to the organisation. The remainder have either died or no longer work for the BBC.

Data released as a result of a Freedom Of Information request shows that just ten of the cases involving present staff or contributors are still ongoing with investigations by the police or the BBC

Of the 81 people about whom allegations have been made, 54 are physical with 23 still involved with the corporation. The remainder relate to verbal and "non-physical" incidents.

In all there have been 152 sexual allegations made about BBC staff and contributors, with 52 of those still involved with the organisation.

:idc:

[Kizzy]

Forget the BBC! have people forgotten about Cyril Smith? and the claims relating to the Tories of the 80's? That were exposed by an MP during PMQ's?.....
What about the poor bloke who was systematically abused (allegedly) by someone with the same name as a certain peer?
This is nothing but a huge cover up.

[Omah]

Forget the BBC! have people forgotten about Cyril Smith

Not me ..... :nono:

21-05-2013, 01:05 PM #31

Sir Cyril Smith abuse claims investigation widens (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6007287&postcount=31)