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InOne
15-11-2012, 11:29 PM
Do you watch it? Do you think it's good that it's all for Charity or is celebs being soppy trying to get your money while not donating themselves? It's all good giving to Charity and stuff, but why do we only have this big dramatic event once a year? Shouldn't we be giving all the time? I've heard some celebs are even paid to appear, not sure how true there is though. I also have no idea where the money goes as the show is usually all over the place. And it seems to get 'bigger' every year, so I guess everything people donate isn't helping anyway! Nothing gets solved.

Marcus.
15-11-2012, 11:30 PM
i watch it every yeah

the truth
15-11-2012, 11:36 PM
It seems harmless enough but its often hijacked by politicians and tax avoids bigshots trying to make themselves look good. when in reality they should simply reduce the corruption and pay their taxes

Ive always believed we pay enough taxes to ensure no children are in need. clearly therefore our system is so hopelessly flawed between the corruption the burocracy and theft , not enough is getting to the children truly in need. this is truly where children must be helped. the amount collected on children in need is peanuts compared to the billions in the treasuries budgets. take wales, theyve only had a childrens hospital for a decade and all that wouldnt have happened without the enromous efforts of celebs like sr ian beefy botha, catherine zeta jones and her hubby etc with a budget of tens of billions, the nation which invented the nhs should surely have had one specialised childrens hospital years ago.

Kizzy
15-11-2012, 11:38 PM
I feel it has been a little played down this year.
We could all donate but how many do regularly?
You do hear that with large telethons, how much gets where it's needed?
I'm sure it's not a scam, but if you have one specific local or national charity that you wish to benefit from your hard earned dollar, best to donate direct to them I think.

Marc
15-11-2012, 11:39 PM
It's sad to watch but I donate

Doogle
15-11-2012, 11:40 PM
I used to like it when I was little but now it's unwatchable

Marcus.
15-11-2012, 11:40 PM
It's sad to watch but I donate

oh yeah the sad bit i have to walk out to get water or make tea

Nedusa
15-11-2012, 11:45 PM
Scrap it, it's had it's day now it's used by failing celebs and popstars to gain a bit of media exposure.

It also monopolises people's charity conscience and probably takes the lions share of the charity take. Unfair to the vast majority of other worthwhile charities who do not have the benefit of a vast television corporation behind them.

Legend killer
15-11-2012, 11:46 PM
Stopped watching when I heard the celebs get paid to appear on the show

King Gizzard
15-11-2012, 11:47 PM
..only Wogan gets paid and I think he's stopped getting paid after it was all in the news

InOne
15-11-2012, 11:49 PM
..only Wogan gets paid and I think he's stopped getting paid after it was all in the news

Well that was decent of him...

arista
15-11-2012, 11:51 PM
Hate It

King Gizzard
15-11-2012, 11:54 PM
and not really a fan because you're being guilt tripped into giving loads of moneys by celebrities who're rich beyond their dreams and don't realise how worse off the rest of us are

I suppose stand up to cancer was alright, because there was a focus for money, but with these others ones it's really wide and the money that goes to africa might not even go to the things it was put there for..I would much rather get rid of these Leaders who do nothing for their country but oh wait there's no oil for us to steal..instead we just give them a few million here and there to paper over the cracks

Ammi
16-11-2012, 05:05 AM
..I do believe in it and support it, to the extent that it does highlight issues for younger people to be aware of...I'm mainly talking about children...

..I think it's good at an early age that chlidren realise how fortunate they are compared to others..I also think it helps them to think of others and what their lives are...

...of course people can donate to any charity at any time...but many people don't...not for any reasons, they just don't always think about it in their busy lives...

..but on days like this when it's a National thing, many peope get involved in fundraising events...and for me, working with younger people, I do feel that the 'fun side' helps to be able to explain to children what it's all about and why they're taking part..rather than, for instance..oh, it's just a dress up day....

...our children decide for themselves which charities we're going to support each year..and this sort of thing helps them with their awareness of what's going on in the world....

...so yes, I'm sure there are negatives..there are to most things..but I do believe something good comes out of this...and I do believe that some children in need's lives are more enriched with it than without it...whether that's true or not, well nothing would ever get done if we all though it was a waste of time...

...but, as for the TV programme itself, I have no idea whether celebrities get paid to appear...some of it is entertaining and some of it isn't...but I do watch the 'sad bits'....because the sad bits are why a lot of people get involved in these things....and those are the bits that the children not in need should be aware of....because they are a reality....

Ammi
16-11-2012, 05:38 AM
..oh and I realise how preachy that sounded...I'm sorry, I didn't mean it to because I do strongly believe people should make up their own minds about these things...

..but I've personally spoken to children who's parents/siblings/entire families have been taken away from them through silly wars and anger...and I know their opinions and how much difference these donations make to their lives...

Kizzy
16-11-2012, 08:41 AM
The sad bits are hard to take but are probably the most important part of the whole thing.
There is usually follow up to those who have been helped too, so you see what a difference donations make.
I totally understand the point about big business and tax though, theres only so much a social conscience can provide.

Kazanne
16-11-2012, 11:52 AM
..I do believe in it and support it, to the extent that it does highlight issues for younger people to be aware of...I'm mainly talking about children...

..I think it's good at an early age that chlidren realise how fortunate they are compared to others..I also think it helps them to think of others and what their lives are...

...of course people can donate to any charity at any time...but many people don't...not for any reasons, they just don't always think about it in their busy lives...

..but on days like this when it's a National thing, many peope get involved in fundraising events...and for me, working with younger people, I do feel that the 'fun side' helps to be able to explain to children what it's all about and why they're taking part..rather than, for instance..oh, it's just a dress up day....

...our children decide for themselves which charities we're going to support each year..and this sort of thing helps them with their awareness of what's going on in the world....

...so yes, I'm sure there are negatives..there are to most things..but I do believe something good comes out of this...and I do believe that some children in need's lives are more enriched with it than without it...whether that's true or not, well nothing would ever get done if we all though it was a waste of time...

...but, as for the TV programme itself, I have no idea whether celebrities get paid to appear...some of it is entertaining and some of it isn't...but I do watch the 'sad bits'....because the sad bits are why a lot of people get involved in these things....and those are the bits that the children not in need should be aware of....because they are a reality....

Well said Ammi,100% agree:xyxwave:

joeysteele
16-11-2012, 05:38 PM
I usually watch bits of it, I will make a donation and hope it really does great again this year.
(I will be completely in a minority here,maybe even part of only a handful of people, but it's Pudsey bear that is a turn off for me. Really sorry in advance to all the millions who adore him).

Jesus.
16-11-2012, 05:43 PM
It's one giant back slapping exercise for anyone with something to sell.

Released a new album? Excellent, how does 1.30am sound?

I hate the ****ing newsreaders, actors etc that feel as though they need to be involved in some kind of stupid ****ing dance or other. It's anti-comedy if anything.

Anyone appearing on it should be lead out the back and shot.

Ammi
16-11-2012, 05:46 PM
..so that's you who won't be watching then JHC...

Jesus.
16-11-2012, 05:59 PM
Am I that transparent, Ams?

Ammi
16-11-2012, 06:01 PM
..no, I thought you were quite subtle..I just tend to pick up on these things....it's a bit of a gift...and a curse...

Jesus.
16-11-2012, 06:06 PM
..no, I thought you were quite subtle..I just tend to pick up on these things....it's a bit of a gift...and a curse...

I tell you what you didn't pick up on. 9/11. I'm not saying it's solely your fault, I just think that it's odd that nobody interviewed you around the 12th of September.

Ammi
16-11-2012, 06:07 PM
..oh they did..I'm far too slippery a character for that FBI...

Livia
16-11-2012, 07:32 PM
I do watch it and donate to it. I've also organised events for it in the past. What really annoys me is when they have auctions of fabulous experiences (driving racing cars, visiting an F1 race and going VIP, rounds of golf with famous golfers etc.) that rich people pay thousands and thousands of pounds for. It's all SOOO arse-kissy about how exceptionally generous l these people are paying all that money to do something that money can't normally buy and how Children in Need will benefit. However, someone on a very limited income donating a fiver from their budget for no return is far more worthy of praise, I think.

the truth
18-11-2012, 08:02 PM
bono is one of the biggest preachers for poor sick people and world peace, yet he allegedly avoids as much tax as possible abroad. its htis hypocrisy too that these types of shows make even worse. take comic relief, the likes of the awful jimmy carr, preaching to us to donate, when hes paying less percentage in tax than a bin man

Kizzy
18-11-2012, 08:17 PM
bono is one of the biggest preachers for poor sick people and world peace, yet he allegedly avoids as much tax as possible abroad. its htis hypocrisy too that these types of shows make even worse. take comic relief, the likes of the awful jimmy carr, preaching to us to donate, when hes paying less percentage in tax than a bin man

Get off jimmys back... He learnt the 'trick' used by 100's of David Camerons mates on 10 o'clock live.
If anyones a hypocrite he is, allowing the corporate tax loopholes... then having the cheek to berate plumbers and electricians for doing the odd cash in hand job and not declaring it!

InOne
18-11-2012, 08:23 PM
Get off jimmys back... He learnt the 'trick' used by 100's of David Camerons mates on 10 o'clock live.
If anyones a hypocrite he is, allowing the corporate tax loopholes... then having the cheek to berate plumbers and electricians for doing the odd cash in hand job and not declaring it!

I actually agree with you for once kizzy

Kizzy
18-11-2012, 08:39 PM
I actually agree with you for once kizzy

:eek: fanks!

the truth
18-11-2012, 09:29 PM
Get off jimmys back... He learnt the 'trick' used by 100's of David Camerons mates on 10 o'clock live.
If anyones a hypocrite he is, allowing the corporate tax loopholes... then having the cheek to berate plumbers and electricians for doing the odd cash in hand job and not declaring it!

No. I dont like him, I dont like his material and I dont like his enormus tax dodge which saves him millions and costs us millions. the little man reduces his taxes by tiny amounts, maybe hundreds of pounds, a man earning millions saves millions , thats a far greater offence. I do agree though cameron and co are kronies and are even guiltier than carr himself. total greedy hypocrites, as for carr, Unless he is seen to pay his fair share he should also be banned for life from all comic relief, 1) because hes not funny and 2) because hes a tax dodger and should contribute his fair share

Livia
18-11-2012, 11:40 PM
No. I dont like him, I dont like his material and I dont like his enormus tax dodge which saves him millions and costs us millions. the little man reduces his taxes by tiny amounts, maybe hundreds of pounds, a man earning millions saves millions , thats a far greater offence. I do agree though cameron and co are kronies and are even guiltier than carr himself. total greedy hypocrites, as for carr, Unless he is seen to pay his fair share he should also be banned for life from all comic relief, 1) because hes not funny and 2) because hes a tax dodger and should contribute his fair share

Bono's Irish. I don't see how he's cost us (in the UK) millions

Rich people have employed accountants to find tax loopholes for them ever since there's been tax. I don't think Cameron can take the all credit for this one.

Omah
19-11-2012, 12:46 AM
It ruins a good evening's telly ..... :hmph:

Me. I Am Salman
19-11-2012, 12:51 AM
First time I didn't properly watch it

Kizzy
19-11-2012, 12:54 AM
Bono's Irish. I don't see how he's cost us (in the UK) millions

Rich people have employed accountants to find tax loopholes for them ever since there's been tax. I don't think Cameron can take the all credit for this one.

Not sure but I think he means jimmy not bono.
It is not a secret loophole, it is a well known tax avoidance scheme.
You would think that during a worldwide recession, when public money is being used to bail banks sums running into billions that government would not allow this practice to continue.
Especially as it makes him look so ridiculous for berating joe bloggs when his annual avoidance is a drop in the ocean compared to corporations?
Not to mention hypocritical when branding Mr Carr 'immoral' for being in the 1% club along with many tory party supporters....
I know of course he can't do this, it would be career suicide to stab his beloved fatcats in the back ...thats why he has to go.

Marsh.
19-11-2012, 02:19 AM
and not really a fan because you're being guilt tripped into giving loads of moneys by celebrities who're rich beyond their dreams and don't realise how worse off the rest of us are

I suppose stand up to cancer was alright, because there was a focus for money, but with these others ones it's really wide and the money that goes to africa might not even go to the things it was put there for..I would much rather get rid of these Leaders who do nothing for their country but oh wait there's no oil for us to steal..instead we just give them a few million here and there to paper over the cracks

Children in Need is for children in THIS country, it doesn't go abroad. I think that's Comic Relief.

Shaun
19-11-2012, 02:27 AM
The 'entertainment' is extremely kitsch but has the difficult task of trying to appeal to every audience available. There's usually something for everyone, but this year's was quite poor. That said, it's a great charity and one I always donate to.

the truth
19-11-2012, 02:36 PM
Bono's Irish. I don't see how he's cost us (in the UK) millions

Rich people have employed accountants to find tax loopholes for them ever since there's been tax. I don't think Cameron can take the all credit for this one.

still a bleeding hypocrite

the truth
19-11-2012, 02:43 PM
Not sure but I think he means jimmy not bono.
It is not a secret loophole, it is a well known tax avoidance scheme.
You would think that during a worldwide recession, when public money is being used to bail banks sums running into billions that government would not allow this practice to continue.
Especially as it makes him look so ridiculous for berating joe bloggs when his annual avoidance is a drop in the ocean compared to corporations?
Not to mention hypocritical when branding Mr Carr 'immoral' for being in the 1% club along with many tory party supporters....
I know of course he can't do this, it would be career suicide to stab his beloved fatcats in the back ...thats why he has to go.

all tories are in favour of the rich, camerons attack on carr was pitiful way to draw attention to an individual and distract from the fact hes done nothing for the working classes, but the fact theyre greedy selfish gits, doesnt excuse jimmy carr. hes a greedy selfish unfunny git too

Livia
19-11-2012, 03:38 PM
all tories are in favour of the rich, camerons attack on carr was pitiful way to draw attention to an individual and distract from the fact hes done nothing for the working classes, but the fact theyre greedy selfish gits, doesnt excuse jimmy carr. hes a greedy selfish unfunny git too

Of course New Labour, and all the Champagne Socialists who rough it on the mean streets of Hampstead are all very loving and giving... and Cameron has only brought in all these loopholes in the last two and a half years since he was elected. Right?

Jimmy Car was in the wrong. Diverting the attention to the working class working cash in hand is just procrastination. You make it sound like tax evasion is okay for the working class. At just what point does it become morally wrong, do you reckon?

the truth
19-11-2012, 04:31 PM
Of course New Labour, and all the Champagne Socialists who rough it on the mean streets of Hampstead are all very loving and giving... and Cameron has only brought in all these loopholes in the last two and a half years since he was elected. Right?

Jimmy Car was in the wrong. Diverting the attention to the working class working cash in hand is just procrastination. You make it sound like tax evasion is okay for the working class. At just what point does it become morally wrong, do you reckon?

I assure you Im just as disgusted by the labour party as the tories. My main concern is that the proportion of tax being paid is much smaller by the mega rich than anyone else. thats plain wrong and both parties have shamefully institutionalized this 2 tier society. my sympathy is for the vast majority of working class people , by working class I mean actually working...as the cost of living has exploded but their wages havent.

Kizzy
19-11-2012, 06:58 PM
I assure you Im just as disgusted by the labour party as the tories. My main concern is that the proportion of tax being paid is much smaller by the mega rich than anyone else. thats plain wrong and both parties have shamefully institutionalized this 2 tier society. my sympathy is for the vast majority of working class people , by working class I mean actually working...as the cost of living has exploded but their wages havent.

Oh me too, Poor jim whatever you think of his comedy he was unfortunately taken down like a gazelle for his tax...now lets get this right not evasion (like mr joe bloggs the plumbers cash in hand work) no, it's tax avoidance... the 1% club does not evade tax, it avoids it.
And is therefore perfectly legal.
As said it's not a club exclusive to tories, but i'm betting Mr Cameron won't be naming and shaming anyone anytime soon.
How morally right is it for a government to make the tax system so unfair?
To stigmatize those who evade paying tax whilst turning a blind eye to those who avoid it?
I agree it has been happening for a good many years, however due to the economy and the cuts that are crippling the UK is it not time to change the rules?
As seen squeezed as most are we give to charity because we as a society care, not because it is tax deductable.

Munchkins
19-11-2012, 08:07 PM
Cant' stand it, seems like its the only day people care about children who need help, what happens for the other 364 days of the year?? also if all these celebrities put loads of money in, just imagine, no difference seems to be happening either..
I donate monthly to charities.. me and my family do, but i just dont understand how it can justified caring for one day, then just forgetting for the rest

the truth
20-11-2012, 12:36 AM
Cant' stand it, seems like its the only day people care about children who need help, what happens for the other 364 days of the year?? also if all these celebrities put loads of money in, just imagine, no difference seems to be happening either..
I donate monthly to charities.. me and my family do, but i just dont understand how it can justified caring for one day, then just forgetting for the rest

exactly. for me its a nice cheap way for famous people and politicians to put an elasto plast on the gaping wounds of the sick poor and disabled kids, what happens the other 364 days of the year.......its the same with the awful heroes show with carol cover yourself up you old trout vorderman....those injured soldiers dont even have any military hospitals to go to, nor a proper pay off or decent pension.....never mind lets invite them on a tv show where famous people can patronise them for 2 minutes then ignore them for alifetime.......its so fake, so shallow so materialistic, it makes me pewk!. the same with children in need, the celebs come on make themselves look good and get some good coverage for their careers. most of them were all paid until this year. the fact is we have a hell of alot in taxes and the children who are in need should be priority number 1 and receive all the tax they need to have a good quality of life....meanwhile these are all multi millionaire celebs and politicians who pay less percentage of tax than 99% of the people watching the show

charity has always been corrupt, it elevates sick scum like jimmy saville and puts sick vulnerable childrens lives in the hands of these monsters...NOTHING will change from all the enquiries, because sick children will always need charity because corrupt governments do not allocate enough to them from the taxes we pay, nor do they collect enough taxes from the stinking rich