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Z
25-11-2012, 02:36 AM
Meeting Strangers Online Is The Best Thing Ever
Nov. 24, 2012

By Chelsea Fagan

One of the things I remember hearing upon getting my first computer all to myself was this chirping, worried chorus, echoed from every direction: “Don’t talk to strangers.” My parents, my school, any adult figures in my life who had only my best interest at heart told me the same thing. They were right, in many ways. It’s true that children and teenagers on the internet — hell, anyone, really, but especially them — are vulnerable to predators and scams. People have been robbed, hurt, even killed from talking to the wrong people online. It was only right for us to be warned not to stray too far away from our AIM buddy list at the tender age of 12 and a half.

But I have found, as I’ve grown and expanded my internet presence to include a healthy mix of people I know in real life and people I’ve only met through online communication, that some of my best friends and even significant others have been people I’ve met on the internet. People that are geographically impossible to see on a regular basis (or even meet in person, occasionally) have proven to be wonderful friends who are there for me, even across time zones and in spite of never having hugged in person, when I need it most. Occasionally the convenience of real-life friends you see almost every day can numb the closeness you have; you can take one another for granted or not be as loving as you should. But despite the effort it takes to maintain a long-distance relationship, these “online” friends have never resented the lack of convenience.

On the eve of Thanksgiving (my second in a foreign country), I was feeling pretty down over not having my family and friends from home around me on such a significant holiday. Though I would later speak to my parents that evening, I initially spent an hour or so on Gchat talking about loneliness and being far away from people you love with a friend who made me feel, even for a minute, a little less alone. And I’ve never met this girl in real life. There are people who would tell me that she is not a “real” friend because we have never solidified it with an essential in-person meeting, or because we did not grow organically through the sometimes-forced intimacy of daily exposure.

And yet nothing could be further from the truth. Whether or not an “internet” friend has the chance to spread their wings in your day-to-day life, their importance in feeling connected to other human beings is not something that can be arbitrarily determined by how physically close they are to you. Because connection is comprised of so much more than shared activities or touch. Yes, it can absolutely reinforce relationships to do things together in person, but there are so many people with whom we share endless interaction in our daily lives whom we never really understand. There is no one kind of relationship that is inherently “better” or “more real” than another; it depends entirely on how you make each other feel.

There is a certain kind of honesty that we allow ourselves, too, when we neither see this person every day nor share with them a common history. We come together without the baggage and appearance that follows us around in almost every other encounter, we can be the unfiltered versions of ourselves we often only allow when we are not in overtly social situations. We can be quiet and independent and still talkative, still sharing, still open completely with someone else. This does not mean that your online friends automatically know you better than anyone else, only that so much of the pressure that can initially accompany friendship is absent.

Everything is voluntary. Everything is a step you make in their direction, something you actively choose to do because you want to be around them, to get to know them. Maybe there is a certain false perfection to these relationships because you are sometimes never able to ruin them with the inevitable flaws of proximity and face-to-face interaction. But there is an oasis in the people we only know from behind the screen, a feeling of relief that you can finally be exactly who you are and there are still people who will seek you out and enjoy your company. So many of us feel so isolated in daily life, until we can go online and find a group of kindred spirits who tell us over and over, in so many words, that we are not alone and never have to feel that way again.

Few things break my heart more than hearing that these friends aren’t “real.” Are our conversations, the ones that last hours and cover topics I’ve never talked about openly with someone before, not real? Are the secrets we keep for each other not real? Are the jokes we create between us only a figment of our collective imagination? No, of course not. We are real, as much as any other friends are. And yes, at one point, they were just “strangers on the internet,” but everyone starts as a stranger. Only the very special ones will ever be called “friend.”

Read more at http://thoughtcatalog.com/2012/meeting-strangers-online-is-the-best-thing-ever/#ZsUomdZRgESOmyed.99

I just read this article and it made me smile, as I was thinking of TiBB and TiBBers when I read it. What do you make of it? Do you agree or disagree?

Munchkins
25-11-2012, 02:37 AM
YES.
for example i have been talking to Mollie and Leon for a good few hours tonight, more than i can with a lot of friends irl :laugh:

Benjamin
25-11-2012, 02:41 AM
Yes, friends are people who you share a connection with. People can argue otherwise but back in the day people had pen friends that they had never met, this is just a modern day version with quicker effects and better relationships.

Ramsay
25-11-2012, 02:42 AM
Ben has it spot on

Benjamin
25-11-2012, 02:44 AM
Karl, **** off, I will not be your friend no matter how much you suck up.

Jords
25-11-2012, 02:47 AM
Of course :)

Black Dagger
25-11-2012, 02:47 AM
I think so...

I count plenty of TIBB people as those who I am close to.

I don't do rl friends. ngl.

I only have a connection with like 5 people irl..

Where as internet friends I don't know, it's strange.

King Gizzard
25-11-2012, 02:47 AM
I have far more online friends so

Ramsay
25-11-2012, 02:49 AM
Karl, **** off, I will not be your friend no matter how much you suck up.

COME AT ME BRO!l DO YOU EVEN LIFT?? http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8852/claymatthewscopy.png

King Gizzard
25-11-2012, 02:50 AM
One of my 'closest' friends lives in nevada and we met on twitter ffs lol..we talk on the xbox loads and on twitter/facebook

Josy
25-11-2012, 02:50 AM
Yeah I think so, there a handful of members from here that I would call real friends.

Brother Leon
25-11-2012, 02:53 AM
Yeah they can be. For instance, look how wrapped up we all are over Vicky's pregnancy. It's great to see :)

Benjamin
25-11-2012, 02:53 AM
COME AT ME BRO!l DO YOU EVEN LIFT?? http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8852/claymatthewscopy.png

Dear Karl, you're a ****. please **** off and get hit by a unicycle. I HATE YOU.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdyjsc1HJI1rhrjnuo2_500.gif

nicole_burks
25-11-2012, 02:56 AM
One of my friends used to live out in Cali and I met her via the Internet, now she goes to college here in Georgia and we're supposed to meet up :amazed:

So I believe this is true, to an extent

King Gizzard
25-11-2012, 02:57 AM
It would be interesting to see how different it would be in real life, bet there would be loads of different friendship groups and people different in real life, for one I would be nervous and shy as **** for most of the time

Benjamin
25-11-2012, 02:59 AM
I'd say I'd be awkward in front of you lot in real life, but I probably wouldn't as I talk to most people and am generally pretty easy to get on with.

Most people I meet and that are my best friends have met me when I'm having one of my rare mega paddy's that are apparently hilarious to watch. :bored:

Shaun
25-11-2012, 03:03 AM
i've never felt anything for any of you

Brother Leon
25-11-2012, 03:07 AM
i've never felt anything for any of you

Thought we had something going...

*goes to be crying*

Jamie585
25-11-2012, 03:13 AM
I have more friends on here than I do in real life :laugh:

Ammi
25-11-2012, 07:52 AM
..I think so..I've never felt it any differently from real life friends, it's just the communication of it which is different...my friendships are very genuine and I care about some people on here no less than if I had ever met them in real life.....

...but I'm of a different generation to most people and I'm often told that forum friendships are fickle and shouldn't be taken too seriously...so I can only say how I feel...I never have fickle friendships..I either connect with people on here or I don't..just the same as in real life..and if I do connect with them, then I think of them as any other friend..whether because of the age difference it would ever be possible to have the same friendship with them in real life...well, I guess maybe it wouldn't..so I'm glad the internet makes it possible to have those friendships....

Alf
25-11-2012, 08:09 AM
IfmMylMp74A

Kate!
25-11-2012, 09:01 AM
I agree. I've formed bonds with people on here, and in real life I very much hold people at arms length, I only have one or two that I meet once in a while for a cuppa and a chat, if I go to the cinema its with my son or my sister in law, I spend time with my mum regularly. That's about it.

I have my reasons for not letting people in.

Somehow though its different on here. I've taken a lot of you to my heart and I care about what's going on with you all, major examples recently are Scott and Vicky (we've had a couple of dingdongs but I've had support from her too over something I told her once)

I don't mind if some read this and think its sad. Maybe so but there you go.

:hug: TiBB - I salute Ye ;)

SharkAttack
25-11-2012, 09:12 AM
IfmMylMp74A

Watch the InBTWs friends montage at least once a month. Have my kids saying "car friend," although I can't let them watch the actual show, because someone would call Child Protective Services asap. ;)

SharkAttack
25-11-2012, 09:24 AM
Friendships are exactly what they are, friendships. Connections with give and take, and perhaps some deep emotions involved. There are no bounds when it comes to the Internet. Best friends I've ever had are often thousands of miles away. One of my oldest online friends is from Southern California. Met her online about 15 years ago whilst living in Philadelphia, 3000 miles away. And then met her IRL about 5 years ago on a trip to Disneyland with the kids and wife. We hugged, as friends do, and walked and talked and took pictures. We've since moved here to the same area and still do most of our talking online and through chat/email with occasional dinners ever few months. Great experience that stemmed from two strangers meeting in a rare chat room.

Also have met some very sweet online friends from both Canada, UK, Australia, Romania, and Germany, IRL. Sure, be careful and smart fgs, but you can kind of feel it out as you go. Loads of good people out there who are just like you and want to enjoy some great experiences outside of their locale. :D

the truth
25-11-2012, 09:52 AM
What is a friend? well I think its someone you want to share time with and someone who is generous with their time and that kindness is reciprocated. In short its someone you can have around your house at the bets of times and the worst of times and someone you can call on in the middle of the night...Im the most loyal person in the world bar none, thats just a scientific fact...But.I have no desire to meet any of you....nothing personal I come on here to unleash hell, not to find a friend. I am a delight in real life, but on here Im your worst reflection

Nedusa
25-11-2012, 10:52 AM
In many ways a close Internet friend can be more of a friend than someone you see two or three times a week. There are pro's and cons to Internet friendships on the upside one can develop quite an intimate bond with regard to the amount of time you spend talking to the other person. Also freed from the normal constraints of a "real" friendship Internet friendships can become quite intense, but ultimately you do need face to face contact as you can never truly know someone through the Internet. But I think it is possible to build up good friendships on the Web especially if the person lives on another continent. But ultimately they would have to meet for the Friendship to become truly "real" ...!!!

Kizzy
25-11-2012, 11:24 AM
Bens point about pen friends is very true, although I was always one for being terrified of the internet after some crazy on facebook copied my pictures once.
This said a few of you have gotten under my skin, members here are very diverse but genuine.
When I see how long some have been around on this forum, peers sharing exam stresses, mutual intrests and relationship problems it's not surprising that strong bonds have developed.

Jake.
25-11-2012, 11:27 AM
Yeah I think so

InOne
25-11-2012, 12:05 PM
..I think so..I've never felt it any differently from real life friends, it's just the communication of it which is different...my friendships are very genuine and I care about some people on here no less than if I had ever met them in real life.....

...but I'm of a different generation to most people and I'm often told that forum friendships are fickle and shouldn't be taken too seriously...so I can only say how I feel...I never have fickle friendships..I either connect with people on here or I don't..just the same as in real life..and if I do connect with them, then I think of them as any other friend..whether because of the age difference it would ever be possible to have the same friendship with them in real life...well, I guess maybe it wouldn't..so I'm glad the internet makes it possible to have those friendships....

Ammi is a great friend to me. So I do hope she's real and not some android talking somewhere :o

Princess
25-11-2012, 12:11 PM
Yes! I think a lot of online people end up talking to their online friends more than their real life friends. It's the same as any friend who moved away, just because you never see them doesn't mean they're not your friend. I think as with friendship, some stay and some don't. I've had online friend who I've known 6/7 years by now and friends who I had back then who I'm not friends with anymore and vice versa.

It's funny, most people I'm friends with off here aren't here anymore and I talk to them on Twitter but I've met five people off here now so it's a good place.

joeysteele
25-11-2012, 12:27 PM
Yes I do but didn't before I joined this forum.

I came on here mainly as a supporter of BB and to share a lot of agreements and disagreements as to housemates with others who also loved BB series.

However,over so many topics and a great deal of communication with people on here,a fair few members have come to matter to me, I am interested in them as individuals and with some have shared a lot of things and talked as to things I don't often with people around me.
One person in particular,I already see as a friend,there are several others that have come to be seen as friends,for want of a better word,by me also now too, in addition to him.

It is my hope that after Uni, I will cross paths with some members on here.So yes, I believe friendships forged, on here particularly, can be real and lasting,I would hope so anyway.

Harry!
25-11-2012, 07:59 PM
Yes definitely, I have so many similarities with some people who I talk to online and they are good to talk to. Although I would like to meet some of the people I talk to online (defo meeting 1 person I talk to online in 2013 :)) it is still great talking to people - even of you never see them in real lofe.

Z
25-11-2012, 08:41 PM
I think internet friends are real friends, but they're not the same as your real life friends... often you can be more open with internet friends because there are, in a way, no consequences if you tell someone a personal secret. With real life friends, they know you in a different way and probably have more of a gauge of your character but are still your friends regardless... online friends generally only get to know the good side of you, the side you want them to see.

CharlieO
25-11-2012, 08:45 PM
no and i think anyone who thinks they are are deluded in le fache

Niall
25-11-2012, 09:03 PM
I think they definitely can be. I talk to some people who I've met through the internet even more than my real life friends.

Livia
26-11-2012, 12:27 PM
I anybody a real friend? You have to put your trust in people, and sometimes they turn out to be not all they seem. That goes for real life as well as the Internet. The friends I have on here I class as real friends and actually, I'm probably more open about myself on here than I am with people offline.

Jake.
26-11-2012, 12:44 PM
I anybody a real friend? You have to put your trust in people, and sometimes they turn out to be not all they seem. That goes for real life as well as the Internet. The friends I have on here I class as real friends and actually, I'm probably more open about myself on here than I am with people offline.

Pretty much this. At least with online friends you have the confidence that they won't be slagging you off behind your back (because they know no one who you know).

Jesus.
26-11-2012, 01:02 PM
I think it's all about perception. If you view people as your friends, then they are your friends. I have friends that I rarely see, but when I see them, it's like we see each other regularly.

And I have friends that I see all the time, that have grown up in the same group as me, that I don't particularly like that much. Friendships by their very nature are personal and viewed differently by people.

This isn't a yes or no question, it's about personal feelings. I think it's easier to not have to put on a brave face over the internet. Sometimes if people ask if you are alright, then in life it's easier to say yes, rather than go through your troubles.

Raph
26-11-2012, 02:28 PM
I think that's a really interesting article. I do feel as though my friends online are my real friends but there's always the question of whether or not we would actually be able to get along in person. Chemistry among people is quite different online v in real life, and it's really unpredictable. I do think though that on sites like TiBB where we really get close to the other members, on a personal level, true friendships can be formed. But definitely not just with anyone. It'd be really interesting to meet with someone from TiBB and see how the relationship molds out in real life.

Mystic Mock
26-11-2012, 06:05 PM
It would be interesting to see how different it would be in real life, bet there would be loads of different friendship groups and people different in real life, for one I would be nervous and shy as **** for most of the time

This, I would probably make you look really confident in comparison.:joker:

Anyway to answer the OP, yes I would say I have real friends on TIBB.