Australia smokers given plain packs

[InOne]

Australia has become the first country in the world to introduce plain packaging for cigarettes.

From now, all tobacco company logos and colours will be banned from packets.

They have been replaced by a dreary, uniform, green/brown, colour accompanied by a raft of anti-smoking messages and photographs.

The only concession to the tobacco companies is their name and the name of the brand variant in small print at the bottom of the box.

"This is the last gasp of a dying industry," declared Australia's Health Minister Tanya Plibersek.

Anne Jones of the anti-smoking group Ash (Action on Smoking and Health) agrees.

"Plain packaging has taken the personality away from the pack", she says.

"Once you take away all the colour coding and imagery and everything is standardised with massive health warnings, you really do de-glamorise the product."

Cigarette packets were practically the last platform for tobacco companies to advertise themselves.

Commercials on Australian television and radio were banned in 1976. Newspapers followed in 1989.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20559585

Sadly can see this happening over here soon :(

So I guess the debate is, do you think plain packets will put people off smoking?

[Glenn.]

No. The fact is, if someone wants to smoke then they will. This bollocks about "pretty" boxes is ridiculus. Underage smokers don't buy cigarettes because the box is pretty. It's because they think its cool to smoke.

[InOne]

I guess they're just trying to make them harder to get so no new smokers start. No logo and locked in the box of doom behind the co-op counter. Although I do think it's gonna make kids wonder even more what's behind the secret door of mystery...

[Livia]

I said this previously in another thread, but here I go again... Do people buy drugs because they come in nice packages with recognisable logos? No, they don't.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/15/article-2188856-148C9F1E000005DC-277_472x293.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/15/article-2188856-148D1FE4000005DC-909_239x359.jpg
Ban: The legal challenge by tobacco companies against plain packaging was rejected by the Australian High Court

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2188856/Blunder-Aussies-war-smokers-new-lengths.html#ixzz2Do33i3G9



After a few years it will come over here
once all the data is done


Feel The Force

[Scarlett.]

Cigarette packets dont really matter anymore anyway, they'll soon all be hidden behind shutters

[BBfanUSA]

This is very stupid,

I do hate smokers but with grusome pics to deter you from smoking and this. I feel like Smokers are discriminated against just a bit.

[InOne]

Cigarette packets dont really matter anymore anyway, they'll soon all be hidden behind shutters

Most places I go in now they are already, it's only the small shops that have been given a few years to get it sorted.

[InOne]

Already a thread: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216471

[Redway]

Has anyone walked into a shop and seen the cigarettes hidden behind a shutter yet?

[InOne]

See my reply to Chewy

[Redway]

Ah, right. Makes you wonder why people go to so much effort to try and regulate someone's life for them lol. It's ridiculous.

[arista]

This is very stupid,

I do hate smokers but with grusome pics to deter you from smoking and this. I feel like Smokers are discriminated against just a bit.


Its going Worldwide
in a few years


Feel The Force

[arista]

[QUOTE=Scrooge;5661271]Already a thread

Yes I have been Merged into your thread
So at least Now you have Graphic photos on your thread.

[Redway]

The whole argument annoys me so much. Why do you care what someone else chooses to put inside their body? Let them smoke all the nicotine they want...it's no one else's business.

[arista]

The whole argument annoys me so much. Why do you care what someone else chooses to put inside their body? Let them smoke all the nicotine they want...it's no one else's business.


In the Future you will be able to Only Smoke in your home,
as your smoke is toxic to others,

[Redway]

In the Future you will be able to Only Smoke in your home,
as your smoke is toxic to others,

That's all right. The person can just walk away from me if they see me with a fag.

[Livia]

Has anyone walked into a shop and seen the cigarettes hidden behind a shutter yet?

Yes. In every supermarket I've been in lately.

I predict the return of the cigarette case.

[arista]

That's all right. The person can just walk away from me if they see me with a fag.

What!
you mean I have to Walk in the Road
and Get Run Down
just so you can Smoke


no way

Smokers will be Banned
in your Future

[Livia]

In the Future you will be able to Only Smoke in your home,
as your smoke is toxic to others,

The vast majority of smokers are very aware of others and would never light up inconsiderately. I see no problem with people smoking outside. Cigarette smoke is no more toxic that carbon monoxide but I don't see a ban on driving cars coming in any time soon.

[Livia]

What!
you mean I have to Walk in the Road
and Get Run Down
just so you can Smoke


no way

Smokers will be Banned
in your Future

Once smokers are banned, how will they make up the £12 billion raised in the UK from tobacco tax in the last year? If people want to smoke that's their own business. God knows they pay enough for the privilege.

[Redway]

What!
you mean I have to Walk in the Road
and Get Run Down
just so you can Smoke


no way

Smokers will be Banned
in your Future

Why? Because you don't approve of their lifestyle? Let them do what they want - that's not for you or anyone else to decide.

And, no, it doesn't mean you have to be a total idiot and get yourself killed. You can just walk past me. Stop being pedantic about things. I hate people always moaning about smokers.

[InOne]

There's gonna be a point where people rebel. It's getting quite ridiculous now, it's just an excuse to raise the price on everything. Take the alcohol thing for example, pretending to care about our health when really it's about more money.

[arista]

Why? Because you don't approve of their lifestyle? Let them do what they want - that's not for you or anyone else to decide.

And, no, it doesn't mean you have to be a total idiot and get yourself killed. You can just walk past me. Stop being pedantic about things. I hate people always moaning about smokers.


Health and Safety on our Streets,
It does Never Stop you Smoking
as in your Home - You can Puff away
or a mates stinky room.

[arista]

Once smokers are banned, how will they make up the £12 billion raised in the UK from tobacco tax in the last year? If people want to smoke that's their own business. God knows they pay enough for the privilege.

They will not be banned in their own home
the income will be less , by then anyway
with less smokers

[Marc]

Why does it matter what the packaging looks like, it's the stuff inside the packaging that should be changed.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/15/article-2188856-148C9F1E000005DC-277_472x293.jpg

It Stops Children wanting to start up
thats one point of these Great Real Deadly photos.

[Marcus.]

i think that fab

[arista]

i think that fab


Yes Its going to Reduce Smoking
Down Under

[Ramsay]

Its not going to reduce smoking, people will continue to smoke no matter whats on the packets

[Kizzy]

Why not ban smoking?
Have nicotine gum or lozengers if you are addicted...
The government could tax them instead?
win win :joker:

[InOne]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/15/article-2188856-148C9F1E000005DC-277_472x293.jpg

It Stops Children wanting to start up
thats one point of these Great Real Deadly photos.

The funniest one of them is where there is a needle full of Heroin on the back. Smoke a cig kids and next week you'll be jaggin'!!!!

[Redway]

Why not ban smoking?
Have nicotine gum or lozengers if you are addicted...
The government could tax them instead?
win win :joker:
Please tell me this is a joke.
i think that fab
It's really not.
Health and Safety on our Streets,
It does Never Stop you Smoking
as in your Home - You can Puff away
or a mates stinky room.

Ban binge drinking then if you're that worried about it.

[Kizzy]

It's no joke....
If you want nicotine, and non smokers don't want your toxins then it's a brilliant idea actually.

[arista]

"Ban binge drinking then if you're that worried about it. "


Its not me
its the Future.


Smokers will still be
but in their private homes only.

So you do not need to worry

[arista]

"Ban binge drinking then if you're that worried about it. "


Its not me
its the Future.


Smokers will still be
but in their private homes only.

So you do not need to worry

[Redway]

It's no joke....
If you want nicotine, and non smokers don't want your toxins then it's a brilliant idea actually.

So you would even ban it in the comfort of their own homes, where no one can complain about inhaling their toxins?

[Kizzy]

So you would even ban it in the comfort of their own homes, where no one can complain about inhaling their toxins?

especially in their own homes...they may have children.

[Jake.]

The whole argument annoys me so much. Why do you care what someone else chooses to put inside their body? Let them smoke all the nicotine they want...it's no one else's business.

The reason it affects me is because I hate seeing my friends smoke themselves away, but you are right. Last night I said 'do it if you wish, I'm going to stop going on, just cut the 'I'm going to quit' bull-**** please'.

And I don't think it's right for them to be packaged this way, you don't see a person with liver disease displayed on a bottle of vodka. People will smoke no matter what the packaging, they care about what's in the box.

[Redway]

especially in their own homes...they may have children.

Exactly. What if they don't?

[Kizzy]

Why all the what if's?
If cigarettes ceased to exist and in their place was an alternative that satisfied your craving would you be happy to use the substitute?
No more feeling anti-social standing outside the party?
No more yellow fingers?
I think it's a brill idea :)

[Livia]

Lots of people die on the roads every year and the toxic fumes from cars is deadly perhaps we should think about banning them. What's more, the driver, like the smoker, is taxed to the hilt already. Maybe we should produce bottles of wine carrying pictures of livers with sclerosis and mutilated accident victims after a drunk driver has hit them. Why stop at smokers?

It's amusing that some people are all for government intervention and dictation when it suits their own agenda.

[Redway]

Why all the what if's?
If cigarettes ceased to exist and in their place was an alternative that satisfied your craving would you be happy to use the substitute?
No more feeling anti-social standing outside the party?
No more yellow fingers?
I think it's a brill idea :)

Nicotine gum is hardly likely to give smokers the same feeling that they would get through smoking a cigarette, nor would any other of these crappy, ineffective alternatives.

As I've said over and over again on this thread: IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

And if you're willing to make smoking illegal would you support throwing someone in prison just because they want to put a bit of nicotine into their system? Because if you do then your logic is totally flawed and I actually can't take you seriously.

[arista]

Why all the what if's?
If cigarettes ceased to exist and in their place was an alternative that satisfied your craving would you be happy to use the substitute?
No more feeling anti-social standing outside the party?
No more yellow fingers?
I think it's a brill idea :)



No kizzy


The Future will be
They can smoke in their Own Home
if they can - away from kids

[Kizzy]

I'm sensing a little friction here....
It was simply a suggestion.
hybrid cars I thought were the new generation?
All things adapt and change with the times.

[arista]

"I'm sensing a little friction here"

Yes As Smokers are hooked
and you are boxing them away.


I am just saying they can still Smoke in Private only.

[Jake.]

Lots of people die on the roads every year and the toxic fumes from cars is deadly perhaps we should think about banning them. What's more, the driver, like the smoker, is taxed to the hilt already. Maybe we should produce bottles of wine carrying pictures of livers with sclerosis and mutilated accident victims after a drunk driver has hit them. Why stop at smokers?

It's amusing that some people are all for government intervention and dictation when it suits their own agenda.

:love:

[InOne]

I'm sensing a little friction here....
It was simply a suggestion.
hybrid cars I thought were the new generation?
All things adapt and change with the times.

The pubs could adapt too and have filters in them instead of an outright ban :pipe: There's literally no smoke at all in the room.

[AnnieK]

To be honest, when I was a smoker, I would have bought cigs packaged in anything, the pictures on them already were pretty bad....I have never heard anyone buying a brand because they had pretty packaging....seems ridiculous to me....why would it stop anyone??

[InOne]

To be honest, when I was a smoker, I would have bought cigs packaged in anything, the pictures on them already were pretty bad....I have never heard anyone buying a brand because they had pretty packaging....seems ridiculous to me....why would it stop anyone??

It's all to make people think they're actually doing something about people smoking. When in reality it's just a massive waste of time and very pointless.

[AnnieK]

It's all to make people think they're actually doing something about people smoking. When in reality it's just a massive waste of time and very pointless.

Yep, agree that seems pointless to me too....it really pisses me off that the government bring in all this stupid legislation yet still rub their hands together at the tax revenue....

[InOne]

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/world-affairs/2012/08/tobacco-ban-people-born-after-year-2000-passes-tasmanian-upper-house

[Kizzy]

I don't see the problem with it....
fair play to them, if you take a substance as detrimental to health as nicotine... It is unethical not to ban it.
How will they cope without the revenue?...
( i'm sure their government cares more than ours to make provision)
What about alcohol!!!!
( thats a separate issue)