View Full Version : WTSMG to be overtaken by Adele's '21'
InOne
13-12-2012, 02:38 PM
Apparently next week :o
I'm not happy about this obviously :bored:
The list being Best selling album of all time (UK)
Jake.
13-12-2012, 02:50 PM
Jeeze :shocked: fair play to her though, Liam's gonna be pissed
InOne
13-12-2012, 02:52 PM
Well Noel wrote it all so doubt Liam will be as bothered lol
AnnieK
13-12-2012, 02:53 PM
Aw no way....Morning Glory is an absolute masterpiece. I like adele and fair play to her but it will be a sad day for me.
Niamh.
13-12-2012, 02:54 PM
Aww Adele is great and all but WTSMG is so much better :(
Jake.
13-12-2012, 02:55 PM
Well Noel wrote it all so doubt Liam will be as bothered lol
Ah yes so he did :p my mistake
Amazing album by an amazing band, if anyone was to overtake it then it might as well be Adele, she is naturally talented and is amazing live.
InOne
13-12-2012, 02:56 PM
I can't see anyone remembering 21 in 16 years time though. Or having the lasting effect WTSMG had.
Jake.
13-12-2012, 02:58 PM
Yeah I get what you mean, but people might have thought the same about WTSMG when it became a hit.
Jake.
13-12-2012, 02:58 PM
Besides its just a different era of music I suppose
MeMyselfAndI
13-12-2012, 03:01 PM
Adele '21' had a way bigger impact anyways, it sold all of that in 2 years, in 13 more years Adele will have another million on it probably
Marsh.
13-12-2012, 03:01 PM
Just be grateful it's by a credible artist, regardless of your opinion of her.
If it was an X Factor winner or Gaga or Britney THEN you can weep. :laugh:
Jake.
13-12-2012, 03:03 PM
Just be grateful it's by a credible artist, regardless of your opinion of her.
If it was an X Factor winner or Gaga or Britney THEN you can weep. :laugh:
Yeah my thoughts too. In an ideal world Oasis would retain the title, but Adele's better than half of the **** out there
Jake.
13-12-2012, 03:04 PM
Adele '21' had a way bigger impact anyways, it sold all of that in 2 years, in 13 more years Adele will have another million on it probably
Bigger impact?
MeMyselfAndI
13-12-2012, 03:07 PM
Bigger impact?
Well obviously, it sold faster, in a worse album sales industry. It had a bigger impact:spin:
Jake.
13-12-2012, 03:09 PM
Well obviously, it sold faster, in a worse album sales industry. It had a bigger impact:spin:
Sales isn't everything. WTSMG is one of the most critically aclaimed albums to come from the UK. And the fact that it's held onto the crown for this long says something about its impact in the industry. Adele's 21, although a good album, didn't reinvent the music world.
MeMyselfAndI
13-12-2012, 03:12 PM
Sales isn't everything. WTSMG is one of the most critically aclaimed albums to come from the UK. And the fact that it's held onto the crown for this long says something about its impact in the industry. Adele's 21, although a good album, didn't reinvent the music world.
First of all it had never held the crown so that whole point is invalid.
Shaun
13-12-2012, 03:13 PM
eh, it's overtaken far better albums already so I'm not fussed how high it gets :p
Jake.
13-12-2012, 03:13 PM
Sales wise? Yes it has held the crown, hence the point of this thread.
Just be grateful it's by a credible artist, regardless of your opinion of her.
If it was an X Factor winner or Gaga or Britney THEN you can weep. :laugh:
Very true
MeMyselfAndI
13-12-2012, 03:15 PM
Sales wise? Yes it has held the crown, hence the point of this thread.
No it hasn't, learn your facts:
1) Queen - Greatets Hits
2) The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
3) Abba - Gold Greatest Hits
4) Oasis - WTSMG
5) Adele - 21
Thankyou :elephant:
Jake.
13-12-2012, 03:29 PM
No, as in since its release.
MeMyselfAndI
13-12-2012, 03:30 PM
What? Your wrong, deal with is :laugh3:
Jake.
13-12-2012, 03:32 PM
Since WTSMG was released, it hasn't been overtaken, correct?
Jake.
13-12-2012, 03:33 PM
Also I love how you have a pop at my for quoting you the other day, yet here you can't even have a discussion without talking to me like ****e.
Jake.
13-12-2012, 03:37 PM
Right ok, I realise that so haven't put the crown (of 4th place) so if I've seemed confusing then I apologise, I should have made it more clear. that's what my point was anyway
MeMyselfAndI
13-12-2012, 03:45 PM
Adele has had a bigger impact was my point, the fact it would have sold more than WTSMG in 2 years, whereas thats been out for 15+. Also with album sales heavily since then, it further proves my point
Jake.
13-12-2012, 03:53 PM
Yes and I fully understand your view sales wise, and im not in anyway saying that Adele hasn't had an impact, I was more looking at influence to the industry :) The Beatles could one day be outsold, but that wouldn't mean that they've made any less of an impact :) if you get me?
Me. I Am Salman
13-12-2012, 03:57 PM
Good Girl Gone Bad >
Good Girl Gone Bad >
:love:
Brother Leon
13-12-2012, 04:14 PM
Hate Oasis, so don't care. As long as Queen stay at the top.
Marsh.
13-12-2012, 05:22 PM
Did some bitch just bring Rihanna into the equation?
Please, we're talking about ARTISTS here...:hmph:
Did WTSMG really have a long term impact? I'm not denying it's classic status or the fact that as a stand alone epoch of it's time it will err ... live forever ... but what was it's long term impact? Britpop drove into a creative cul de sac and got destroyed by OK Computer by 1997.
Dance became mainstream and took over and then eventually gave out to a new wave of indie rock in the early to mid noughties. A handful of bands who made it big like Kasabian will cite them as an influence but beyond that?
Oasis has a huge impact in a sense but it was mostly unto themselves. They done more to solidify this mythological image of themselves as self destructive cartoon psychopaths than they did to push music along. They didn't really change anything. They were just really, really hot for a few years.
InOne
13-12-2012, 05:36 PM
As in some of the songs off the album are now considered classics and you still hear them played fairly often. We can only wait and see if that happens with Adele.
I definitely think it will happen. The way we purchase and consume music might have radically changed but these have become huge, huge tracks. They won't just vanish. Even cheesy tracks have carved a path to longevity through this whole irony culture that pervades in entertainment. Adele shouldn't have a problem.
Mind you I'd still apply my argument against Oasis' creative impact on to her in fairness. They're just really good songs. 21 isn't a landmark album in terms of the evolution of music. But that sounds horribly pretentious. Not every artist has to move the medium on.
Actually 21's biggest impact will probably be the fact that in the age of not paying for music, it's sold so bloody much.
InOne
13-12-2012, 05:57 PM
Someone Like You will stick around probably. Other than that the others are pretty forgettable.
Adele had help writing some of the songs too, Noel wrote them all by himself. Music included. Therefore I'm always going to prefer WTSMG in creativity terms.
But this is coming from a die hard Oasis fan of course and it's only my opinion :tongue:
Marsh.
13-12-2012, 05:59 PM
I don't think how much she wrote is really the point though.
The fact she isn't manufactured is good enough for me.
Having said that, I only really like Rolling in the Deep myself.
Benjamin
13-12-2012, 05:59 PM
Actually 21's biggest impact will probably be the fact that in the age of not paying for music, it's sold so bloody much.
This. We live in an age where album slaes have slumped dramtically and people steal most of their music from download sites, so the fact it will achieve so much is an amzing feat, even if it isn't the best album in the world.
Jake.
13-12-2012, 06:01 PM
Someone Like You will stick around probably. Other than that the others are pretty forgettable.
Adele had help writing some of the songs too, Noel wrote them all by himself. Music included. Therefore I'm always going to prefer WTSMG in creativity terms.
But this is coming from a die hard Oasis fan of course and it's only my opinion :tongue:
:love:
I don't know why it's such a big deal, music is music you dont need your favourite artists to be the best in the world, as long as they keep making the music you love and more people have spent money on music/albums over the past 10ish years than they did back in the early 90s and even more than in the 60/70/80s
Jake.
13-12-2012, 06:04 PM
I don't know why it's such a big deal, music is music you dont need your favourite artists to be the best in the world, as long as they keep making the music you love and more people have spent money on music/albums over the past 10ish years than they did back in the early 90s and even more than in the 60/70/80s
Yeah very true /gets up and claps
Jake.
13-12-2012, 06:04 PM
That was a very BB12-like post I just done
Marsh.
13-12-2012, 06:05 PM
Drop your head in shame.
It's not a big deal but it's fun to discuss. Nobody really takes charts and sales to heart as a marker of intrigue and integrity. That's MM&I's gimmick.
Jake.
13-12-2012, 06:10 PM
It's not a big deal but it's fun to discuss. Nobody really takes charts and sales to heart as a marker of intrigue and integrity. That's MM&I's gimmick.
:laugh:
Kazanne
13-12-2012, 06:11 PM
I don't know why it's such a big deal, music is music you dont need your favourite artists to be the best in the world, as long as they keep making the music you love and more people have spent money on music/albums over the past 10ish years than they did back in the early 90s and even more than in the 60/70/80s
yeah,well said Marchttp://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/msmofet/smilies/bravo-clapping.gif
Did some bitch just bring Rihanna into the equation?
Please, we're talking about ARTISTS here...:hmph:
\_ <- sit.
Marsh.
13-12-2012, 07:14 PM
\_ <- sit.
:idc:
InOne
29-12-2012, 07:11 PM
Confirmed: http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/adele-overtakes-oasis-to-become-the-fourth-biggest-selling-album-of-all-time-1778/
Marcus.
29-12-2012, 07:12 PM
good on her
Jake.
29-12-2012, 07:47 PM
Oh :( but Adele is better than most current artists so I'd rather it be her
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