London Chemists selling Valium and temazepam without a prescription

[arista]

This was on BBCNews and BBC London News

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-2249530-168E84E8000005DC-348_634x356.jpg
"Black market: Undercover reporters were sold Valium,
opiates and other addictive
and dangerous prescription drugs without prescription"

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-0-168E675A000005DC-698_634x389.jpg
"Undercover: A BBC researcher buys
a bottle of Oramorph - which contains
the addictive painkiller morphine - without a prescription,
£200."

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-2249530-168E84EC000005DC-903_634x346.jpg
"Trade: It is illegal for pharmacists to
sell drugs without a prescription,
with sentences of up to two years
in prison if found guilty"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2249530/Exposed-small-time-drug-pusher-chemists-running-black-market-Valium-Viagra.html#ixzz2FQmZnXoH



Police are looking into this

[Marc]

-books train ticket to London-

[Jesus.]

You could have probably scrapped "Asian" from the title, to be honest.

[Marc]

Yeh, tis a bit racist arista

[Stu]

White people don't ever sell drugs though.

[Marcus.]

Yeh, tis a bit racist arista

yes it is

[Kazanne]

they look Asian to me:conf:

[Marcus.]

they look Asian to me:conf:

yeah same here

[Jesus.]

they look Asian to me:conf:

Their ethnicity is irrelevant to the story. I'm sure there are dodgy white pharmacists in London too.

[Jesus.]

yeah same here

t2hapwnFwaE

[arista]

they look Asian to me:conf:


Yes all Asian Criminals

[arista]

Their ethnicity is irrelevant to the story. I'm sure there are dodgy white pharmacists in London too.

Maybe
but on the BBC Film there were all Asian


Whats Wrong with pointing that out?


Is this a BBC Site?

[Kazanne]

Their ethnicity is irrelevant to the story. I'm sure there are dodgy white pharmacists in London too.

There probably is,but we are discussing a story Arista posted with pictures and they do look Asian,i am sure if there are others out there,if they are found out they will be discussed,whatever ethnicity:hugesmile:

[arista]

Yeh, tis a bit racist arista


I am Not Racist.

Why are they all Asian?


They will go to Jail
Utter Criminals

[Jesus.]

There probably is,but we are discussing a story Arista posted with pictures and they do look Asian,i am sure if there are others out there,if they are found out they will be discussed,whatever ethnicity:hugesmile:

The original headline for the story, doesn't even mention the fact that they are Asian. Yet Arista's does.

If you can't see the deliberate act to emphasise their race, then that says more about you than me.

[arista]

"Yet Arista's does."


Because I watched the Report on BBC London News.


This is about Corruption
taking Cash for drugs without a Form from the Doctor

[Kazanne]

The original headline for the story, doesn't even mention the fact that they are Asian. Yet Arista's does.

If you can't see the deliberate act to emphasise their race, then that says more about you than me.

No need to turn this into a racial thread,the story is plain enough,lets stick to these people selling illegal stuff shall we?I didn't even notice the 'asian' thing until it was mentioned ,looks like some people just look for trouble:nono:I'de say that says a lot about you.

[Marcus.]

No need to turn this into a racial thread,the story is plain enough,lets stick to these people selling illegal stuff shall we?I didn't even notice the 'asian' thing until it was mentioned ,looks like some people just look for trouble:nono:I'de say that says a lot about you.

yeah it dose kaz

[Jesus.]

No need to turn this into a racial thread,the story is plain enough,lets stick to these people selling illegal stuff shall we?I didn't even notice the 'asian' thing until it was mentioned ,looks like some people just look for trouble:nono:I'de say that says a lot about you.

That was my point. Arista turned this into a racial thread with his headline, not me for picking him up on it.

[arista]

That was my point. Arista turned this into a racial thread with his headline, not me for picking him up on it.



No I did Not


This is about Corruption.


Your First Post
Nothing about the Story

[Redway]

Stupid title, as others have mentioned.

We have plenty of white drug dealers, some of them even getting arrested for their alleged crimes and I don't see anyone picking on that.

[Redway]

There probably is,but we are discussing a story Arista posted with pictures and they do look Asian,i am sure if there are others out there,if they are found out they will be discussed,whatever ethnicity:hugesmile:
If you don't think Asians are more likely to sell drugs, what was the point in that post?
they look Asian to me:conf:

You're putting this on, right?

[waterhog]

i have just done a poem on this - sorry i never saw this thread - its disgraceful what goes on.

[Kizzy]

Anyone found to be doing this deserves to be jailed.

[Irene Pearson]

You could have probably scrapped "Asian" from the title, to be honest.

Why is he not Asian?

[Irene Pearson]

Their ethnicity is irrelevant to the story. I'm sure there are dodgy white pharmacists in London too.

No one is saying there aren't

[Irene Pearson]

No need to turn this into a racial thread,the story is plain enough,lets stick to these people selling illegal stuff shall we?I didn't even notice the 'asian' thing until it was mentioned ,looks like some people just look for trouble:nono:I'de say that says a lot about you.

Yes - back of the net.

[Jesus.]

Why is he not Asian?

The original article said nothing about "Asian pharmacists". Arista translated it to put his own slant on it. Drug dealers are drug dealers, regardless of any other factors.

[Jesus.]

Yes - back of the net.

If ignorance is bliss, there are some very happy people on this forum.

[Irene Pearson]

If ignorance is bliss, there are some very happy people on this forum.

If the perpetrators of this had been say Scottish , Chinese etc etc would you have been so offended.

[arista]

The original article said nothing about "Asian pharmacists". Arista translated it to put his own slant on it. Drug dealers are drug dealers, regardless of any other factors.


Bloody Right
But From the Source
BBC News

[AnnieK]

I tend to agree that race is not the main issue of this story but would it have been put in the title as "white pharmacist"...probably not.

[Jesus.]

If the perpetrators of this had been say Scottish , Chinese etc etc would you have been so offended.

Do you know what a false equivalence is?

[arista]

Anyone found to be doing this deserves to be jailed.

Bang On Right
Kizzy

[Irene Pearson]

Do you know what a false equivalence is?

A comparison predicated literally on duplicity.SO

[Redway]

If the perpetrators of this had been say Scottish , Chinese etc etc would you have been so offended.

For starters, Chinese people are Asian, so I don't see what point you're making there.

And, yeah, there's no need to specify someone's ethnicity when it comes to this sort of thing. Because I don't see any "omg dodgy white pharmacists selling valium!!" threads around here so why do it with Asians?

Can we not just see people as people and leave external factors and other trivial, irrelevant things out of the picture?

[Irene Pearson]

For starters, Chinese people are Asian, so I don't see what point you're making there.

And, yeah, there's no need to specify someone's ethnicity when it comes to this sort of thing. Because I don't see any "omg dodgy white pharmacists selling valium!!" threads around here so why do it with Asians?

Can we not just see people as people and leave external factors and other trivial, irrelevant things out of the picture?

Yes we can see people as people . I however would not take offence at being described by my ethnicity. I am sorry if I offended you and yes I am aware that Chinese people are Asian.

[Redway]

Well, if you're specifying someone's ethnicity, (unless there's an actual need to, e.g. police statistics) then you're not seeing people as people.

As Jesus.H.Christ said, the title of the original article on this doesn't even specify ethnicity (and rightly so) but arista had to add that in and (as Jesus put it) slant it.

If you can't see that then you're more than a tad naive, don't you think?

[Irene Pearson]

Ethnicity is also a part of "people being people" is it not. I may be a tad naive I really do not understand what all the fuss is about. Since when did ethnicity become something to be hidden? I am caucasian and would not be insulted by anyone referring to that fact where ever in the world I have lived which has included Africa , Asia and Northern India.

[Irene Pearson]

Meant Malaysia not Asia oops. Getting over novo virus so you can all blame that if you disagree with me:yuk:

[Petershaw1984]

Oh my god

[InOne]

There's always been a massive black market for these. Dodgy pharmacists are probably the tip of the iceberg

[Redway]

Ethnicity is also a part of "people being people" is it not. I may be a tad naive I really do not understand what all the fuss is about. Since when did ethnicity become something to be hidden? I am caucasian and would not be insulted by anyone referring to that fact where ever in the world I have lived which has included Africa , Asia and Northern India.

Others would, though ... as you can see. One person doesn't somehow change that.

[Irene Pearson]

Others would, though ... as you can see. One person doesn't somehow change that.

Yes and that is a shame. Sorry if I have upset you, that certainly was not my intention

[arista]

This was on BBCNews and BBC London News

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-2249530-168E84E8000005DC-348_634x356.jpg
"Black market: Undercover reporters were sold Valium,
opiates and other addictive
and dangerous prescription drugs without prescription"

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-0-168E675A000005DC-698_634x389.jpg
"Undercover: A BBC researcher buys
a bottle of Oramorph - which contains
the addictive painkiller morphine - without a prescription,
£200."

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/17/article-2249530-168E84EC000005DC-903_634x346.jpg
"Trade: It is illegal for pharmacists to
sell drugs without a prescription,
with sentences of up to two years
in prison if found guilty"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2249530/Exposed-small-time-drug-pusher-chemists-running-black-market-Valium-Viagra.html#ixzz2FQmZnXoH



Police are looking into this


Great News These criminals have been Sacked
and criminal Invest., still to come.
both in those Photos and 1 more

BBC London went to Film again outside one of those chemists
and they were attacked

[Nedusa]

This story should include references to the ethnicity of the pharmacists as it is part of the story. It may be that Asian pharmacists for whatever reason indulge in this sort of behaviour with less scruples than say Caucasian pharmacists. It may be a cultural defect who knows, but the fact they are Asian is relevant to the story and should be mentioned.

Too many people on this forum are scared to debate anything that goes near the race issue. It's like nobody wants to have the race card played against them. But debating race issues openly and honestly does not automatically make us all racists...!!

[Nedusa]

This story should include references to the ethnicity of the pharmacists as it is part of the story. It may be that Asian pharmacists for whatever reason indulge in this sort of behaviour with less scruples than say Caucasian pharmacists. It may be a cultural defect who knows, but the fact they are Asian is relevant to the story and should be mentioned.

Too many people on this forum are scared to debate anything that goes near the race issue. It's like nobody wants to have the race card played against them. But debating race issues openly and honestly does not automatically make us all racists...!!

[Shasown]

This story should include references to the ethnicity of the pharmacists as it is part of the story. It may be that Asian pharmacists for whatever reason indulge in this sort of behaviour with less scruples than say Caucasian pharmacists. It may be a cultural defect who knows, but the fact they are Asian is relevant to the story and should be mentioned.

Too many people on this forum are scared to debate anything that goes near the race issue. It's like nobody wants to have the race card played against them. But debating race issues openly and honestly does not automatically make us all racists...!!


It may also be that Asian Pharmacists are no more corrupt than Caucasian ones. An interesting aside - is it possible only Asian Pharmacists were targeted in this "journalistic" investigation, would that be racist ? Even in an area where there are no caucasian ones?

Perhaps every news story should indicate whether the "alleged" perpetrator is "white" "asian" "african" "afro-caribbean" "multiple or mixed".

Hey we could go really PC and also include age groupings and religions. That way we would find out if Jedis commit crimes too.

I dont really care if they are Asian, Eskimo, afro-caribbean or caucasian, if they didnt discriminate in who they sold the drugs to, does it really matter?

[InOne]

This story should include references to the ethnicity of the pharmacists as it is part of the story. It may be that Asian pharmacists for whatever reason indulge in this sort of behaviour with less scruples than say Caucasian pharmacists. It may be a cultural defect who knows, but the fact they are Asian is relevant to the story and should be mentioned.

Too many people on this forum are scared to debate anything that goes near the race issue. It's like nobody wants to have the race card played against them. But debating race issues openly and honestly does not automatically make us all racists...!!

It reminds me of the sex grooming thing where nobody is allowed to mention the fact pretty much all of them are Asian.

[Kizzy]

This story should include references to the ethnicity of the pharmacists as it is part of the story. It may be that Asian pharmacists for whatever reason indulge in this sort of behaviour with less scruples than say Caucasian pharmacists. It may be a cultural defect who knows, but the fact they are Asian is relevant to the story and should be mentioned.

Too many people on this forum are scared to debate anything that goes near the race issue. It's like nobody wants to have the race card played against them. But debating race issues openly and honestly does not automatically make us all racists...!!

Are you suggesting the unethical behaviour of this pharmacist is a racial defect....seriously?

[Jake.]

Time for me to head down to London

[Nedusa]

Are you suggesting the unethical behaviour of this pharmacist is a racial defect....seriously?

No, I am saying they are Asian , this may or may not be coincidental it may have no bearing on the story whatsoever. But it is a detail that should be mentioned without fear of being accused of putting a racial slant on the story. The racial profile is clearly already there.