Should C5 as a channel have a complete overhaul?

[_Seth]

It seems like the unwanted child of a channel that no-one takes seriously. Instead of being FIVE instead of Channel 5 or whatever they're trying (and failing to do), I really think a complete brand overhaul would be great. New name, philosophy on what they show (they need to get rid of their obsession with celebrities in general), new look, font, etc.

[DigitalSid]

C5 now regularly matches and beats C4, perceptions of it are slowly changing from the changes already made.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I think C5 is a really good channel. I would have never watched anything on it before

[crollsy]

Channel 5 (or at least 5* and the like) have some really good american shows IIRC.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Channel 5 (or at least 5* and the like) have some really good american shows IIRC.

Yeah, they show The Mentalist which I accidentally started watching one day after BB ended, it's really good too

[crollsy]

Once Upon A Time is on one of them as well, which is a really good show. I forget which channel, Sky+ takes care of it for me lol.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Once Upon A Time is on one of them as well, which is a really good show. I forget which channel, Sky+ takes care of it for me lol.

I watched a few episodes of that, I couldn't get into it at all, maybe i should have given it more of a chance!

[Jarrod]

I have to say, i've watched Channel 5 quite often since last summer.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Its just your perception of Channel 5. Just because people think its failing doesnt mean it is.

They are probably on par with Channel 4 now and have some great shows and documentaries.

BB has helped it alot obviously.

Its only in the last year and a half that they relaunched ect so no they dont need to do anything.

[andy191]

Seems to be doing well since Desmond took over.

[Tregard]

They just has their third or fourth rehaul

[InOne]

5* started showing Malcolm In The Middle again and shows some other good old shows. It's a bit trashy at times but it's a pretty good brand overall

[Marcus.]

channel 5 is fab

[*mazedsalv**]

News from Dec 2012 showed that only Channel 5 and Channel 4 grew in % viewing since Dec 2011. All other channels fell, so I reckon CH5 is starting to find it's feet.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Who cares if it's ratings are increasing, it's still tacky and godawful. Look what they've done to Big Brother.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Who cares if it's ratings are increasing, it's still tacky and godawful. Look what they've done to Big Brother.

People forget that Channel 4 actually changed the editing format of BB from CBB7.

It wasnt Channel 5 who started doing recaps and putting music montages in episodes.

[_Seth]

People forget that Channel 4 actually changed the editing format of BB from CBB7.

It wasnt Channel 5 who started doing recaps and putting music montages in episodes.

C5 took it to a new extreme and amped up the manipulation. But yeah, C4 were pricks for doing it in the first place.

[Me. I Am Salman]

People forget that Channel 4 actually changed the editing format of BB from CBB7.

It wasnt Channel 5 who started doing recaps and putting music montages in episodes.

No live feed, the terrible website, the terrible stage, the ridiculous dancers, ridiculous spin off show, the unimaginative eyes and graphics, bad advertising, OTT campness, flop twists, casting good looking young people only, two CBBs a year, the list goes on.

[Jake.]

No live feed, the terrible website, the terrible stage, the ridiculous dancers, ridiculous spin off show, the unimaginative eyes and graphics, bad advertising, OTT campness, flop twists, casting good looking young people only, two CBBs a year, the list goes on.

Yet you still watch it?

[Ryan.]

No live feed, the terrible website, the terrible stage, the ridiculous dancers, ridiculous spin off show, the unimaginative eyes and graphics, bad advertising, OTT campness, flop twists, casting good looking young people only, two CBBs a year, the list goes on.

Judging by the fact that almost all you described there is present in the new AU version - I'd say its likely that it's Endemol's new desired direction.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Well for what it is it can still be good (CBB9 and BB13 are proof of that) just not amazing.

[Conor]

Isn't they way BB is produced completely down to how endemol decide to produce it? I thought all 5 done was buy the rights to air it. I'm not sure they have much say in the production beyond scheduling etc. It would probably be exactly the same on any other channel. I might be wrong though.

Anyway, in regards to C5 I think it's already made its overhaul and has succeeded with it. 4 years ago I would have taken 5 to be a joke, but now it is one of my fav channels. They have The Walking Dead and plenty of other big US dramas. They got Big Brother and soon American Idol will be on. They are a success story and will deffo be a channel to keep an eye on in the next few years.

[reece(:]

I like Body of Proof and Once Upon a Time but they do show some utter trash.

[Merry Mockmas]

I watched a few episodes of that, I couldn't get into it at all, maybe i should have given it more of a chance!

If you can get past how awful Prince Charming is then it's a great show, because he nearly made me stop watching.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

C5 took it to a new extreme and amped up the manipulation. But yeah, C4 were pricks for doing it in the first place.

May i remind you of this lol

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And dont get me started on that superhero task where they had Rachael flying over the house.

[Marcus.]

loved the singing task

[daniel-lewis-1985]

loved the singing task

Oh dear god.

[Marcus.]

Oh dear god.

what why you saying that

[Me. I Am Salman]

May i remind you of this lol

Gx2ulZRTXes

And dont get me started on that superhero task where they had Rachael flying over the house.

However terrible it was, they only did that because it was the last series and they wanted it to be "bigger" than ever before.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

However terrible it was, they only did that because it was the last series and they wanted it to be "bigger" than ever before.

That statement makes no sense.

Anyway Channel 5 have come a long way since this....

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Can you believe that actually got commisioned lol!!

[Me. I Am Salman]

I'm just saying I think the whole music montages and over the top tasks wasn't their real vision of the show, they only did it as a one off because it was the last series.

[Jarrod]

BB11 was my first series and I will stick by it. I adored it :lovedup:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'm just saying I think the whole music montages and over the top tasks wasn't their real vision of the show, they only did it as a one off because it was the last series.

It never should have happened.

[Me. I Am Salman]

It never should have happened.

It needs to be forgotten about :joker:

[Doogle]

No it's a lot better now. It attracts people who like the trashiness anyway and its increase in viewers isn't going to convince them to do anything about it.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No it's a lot better now. It attracts people who like the trashiness anyway and its increase in viewers isn't going to convince them to do anything about it.

??

[Jarrod]

:rolleyes: Oh no. Not the ratings argument yet again.

[Doogle]

I was under the impression they were getting more viewers than in previous years

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I was under the impression they were getting more viewers than in previous years

Its not.

[Jarrod]

I was under the impression they were getting more viewers than in previous years

It's on par with CBB9 :)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It's on par with CBB9 :)

CBB9

Launch: 3.50
2.66
2.29
2.52
2.47

CBB11

Launch: 3.55
2.05
2.07
2.2
2.2

People are raving that its matching CBB9 but it is actually down.

[DigitalSid]

CBB9

Launch: 3.50
2.66
2.29
2.52
2.47

CBB11

Launch: 3.55
2.05
2.07
2.2
2.2

People are raving that its matching CBB9 but it is actually down.

You're comparing overnights to officials :laugh:, from the first 4 highlight shows we're currently looking at an average of 2.53m, with the strongest competition it's had on C5, and that might well go up, we've not seen how the 10pm shows are going to do yet, there's clearly a loyal audience for this series judging by how consistently it's rated and survived so with the smaller competition they could do better than the 9pm ones.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

You're comparing overnights to officials :laugh:, from the first 4 highlight shows we're currently looking at an average of 2.53m, with the strongest competition it's had on C5, and that might well go up, we've not seen how the 10pm shows are going to do yet, there's clearly a loyal audience for this series judging by how consistently it's rated and survived so with the smaller competition they could do better than the 9pm ones.

No im not.

They are the overnights for CBB9 including +1.

Plus the 10pm slots allways rate lower which you have said yourself lol.

[DigitalSid]

No im not.

They are the overnights for CBB9 including +1.

Plus the 10pm slots allways rate lower which you have said yourself lol.

No, they are the official ratings discluding +1, you got them from here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Big_Brother_9#Ratings

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No, they are the official ratings discluding +1, you got them from here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Big_Brother_9#Ratings

Well if they are excluding plus 1 they are still higher than CBB11 overnights even when you include plus 1.

[Tregard]

However terrible it was, they only did that because it was the last series and they wanted it to be "bigger" than ever before.

Why would they try to make it bigger by making everything extremely cheap and gimmicky?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Why would they try to make it bigger by making everything extremely cheap and gimmicky?

Exactly.

They just ended up raping the show.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Why would they try to make it bigger by making everything extremely cheap and gimmicky?

I don't know I'm not Digital Sid.

[DigitalSid]

Well if they are excluding plus 1 they are still higher than CBB11 overnights even when you include plus 1.

They are officials, they would.

[DigitalSid]

I don't know I'm not Digital Sid.

You described them making it cheaper and gimmicky for BB11 as them making it bigger, not me, I'm not Salman.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

They are officials, they would.

I thought the officials are tallied up at the end and printed on the right side of the screen and the over nights are the ones on the left?

Surely those are the overnights we should be comparing these to?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebri...ther_9#Ratings

[Vodka Drinka]

C5 always shows really good, classic films. More so than any other terrestrial channel which seems to either reserve them for Christmas or Bank Holidays, or shove them on at a really late hour. Recently I've seen Dirty Dancing, Calamity Janes, Seven Brides for the Seven Brothers, Beauty and the Beast, the original Superman movies and many others. I like the channel for that alone.