If you were trying to persuade a TiBB new member to stay off season....

[Ammi]

...what good things (of which there are many)..would you say to describe the forum and what it has to offer, off season....favourite sections, games, awards etc...

..this isn't a thread about specific favourite members...or an opportunity to have a moan about things you're not happy with..(you always get gripes on any forum site and perfection is impossible)..but as we all know, this is one of the best/friendliest forums...and not just for BB fans....

..what is it you love about TiBB...?...the highlights and the 'best bits'.....

[thesheriff443]

im sick of people saying you cant say this and that beacuse of the younger member's!,
under age sex drinking, smokeing,taking ilegal drug's, is being done by teenager's and even younger one's,big brother was a show for adult's so this forum should reflect that!, older member's like myself will not be sticking around if this site gets turned into a bloody youth club!.

[_Seth]

im sick of people saying you cant say this and that beacuse of the younger member's!,
under age sex drinking, smokeing,taking ilegal drug's, is being done by teenager's and even younger one's,big brother was a show for adult's so this forum should reflect that!, older member's like myself will not be sticking around if this site gets turned into a bloody youth club!.

Interesting that you talk about maturity when your grammar's so bad. :p

[SharkAttack]

I think it depends on the person. If one has enough interest to delve into the personalities that already reside here, then he/she will see what a wonderful world it becomes when it's not only about the Big Brother. For me, it was a significant and happy discovery. :)

edit: One of the assets of the site, which I haplessly forgot to add, is that there are folks here from all walks of life, and ages, and cultures. There is *nothing* better than having your peers, those younger than you, and those older, who you learn from. Something new each day, as it goes. Thrilled about that, really. http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp32/sharkattack_torrential/grin_zpsc637ef87.gif

[mizzy25]

I stay because there always something being posted, sometimes it gets a bit too busy on season, but I like both.

[Jesus.]

I'd probably tell them about all the weddings.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-psSaCpk6VKY/UGM3edtIV8I/AAAAAAAADPE/BkC8uaKjoAg/s1600/michael-jordan-laughing.gif

[thesheriff443]

Interesting that you talk about maturity when your grammar's so bad. :p

funny not!

[Kazanne]

If they were a certain type of teenager I'de say they might enjoy it,but after my first full off season stay as an adult,I'de have to say it's a no,no,but it is blindingly obvious that if you fit a certain criteria you'de fit in great.

[Jesus.]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3wzE6-H7sX0/T6lcHSimoxI/AAAAAAAABHc/oG1CJ0zkxhI/s320/crying-cat.gif

[Marcus.]

I would say it great fun and you will have a laugh

[AnnieK]

Being in the presence of greatness obviously is the biggest plus......

[Vanessa]

im sick of people saying you cant say this and that beacuse of the younger member's!,
under age sex drinking, smokeing,taking ilegal drug's, is being done by teenager's and even younger one's,big brother was a show for adult's so this forum should reflect that!, older member's like myself will not be sticking around if this site gets turned into a bloody youth club!.

i couldn't agree more. This is an adult site, not a childen's one.

[Black Dagger]

Being in the presence of greatness obviously is the biggest plus......

Yes, I agree, who wouldn't want to be in the presence of me?

[Stu]

They could crack the top 50 of Most Loved what ... 16?

[Jesus.]

It's is an age-neutral site, obviously. It is about BB after all.

[Niamh.]

The site is for people aged 13 and up........just to clarify.

I would say the games are great during off season, especially The Pub Quiz!

[CharlieO]

my banging body gifs

[Livia]

I'd like five thousand words on what they think they can bring to the forum and the written approval of a mental health professional with a recognised qualification. Is that too much to ask?

[AnnieK]

I'd like five thousand words on what they think they can bring to the forum and the written approval of a mental health professional with a recognised qualification. Is that too much to ask?

Nope, that sounds like pretty good criteria to me Livia....

You're not thinking of applying it retrospectively though are you?

[Marc]

Games, TinyC, Plug, general bant

good talk, good talk.

[Livia]

Nope, that sounds like pretty good criteria to me Livia....

You're not thinking of applying it retrospectively though are you?

No... and of course, applicants can bypass the process with cash. I don't mind splitting it with you...

[Jesus.]

I'd tell them that Marc kills a kitten for every member that leaves in off season.

[Marc]

I do

[Marcus.]

Did not know that

[Black Dagger]

Don't.

[Marc]

Marcus kills kittens!

[Jesus.]

I'd show them this picture, then I'd dare them to leave.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4958/img06401.jpg

[InOne]

I don't think you can really persuade anyone to stay or not. They either do or they don't. I just stayed in the BB section when I first joined and then gradually went to different parts. Nobody asked me to stick around, I just did lol TiBB does have lots of different things to offer but they might not be for everyone.

[Locke.]

Think I gave Leon the tip to stick around back when he was King_Anton and we were outnumbered 100 to 2... What a terrible mistake I made

[Niamh.]

I don't think you can really persuade anyone to stay or not. They either do or they don't. I just stayed in the BB section when I first joined and then gradually went to different parts. Nobody asked me to stick around, I just did lol TiBB does have lots of different things to offer but they might not be for everyone.

Same here, It took me 3 months to figure out there were other sections besides the BB one though f/

[thesheriff443]

what get's my goat is new member's that come on here,give it the large about finding this site,member's welcome them,then they never post again,i class this as spaming.

[InOne]

Same here, It took me 3 months to figure out there were other sections besides the BB one though f/

Same :joker: But the BB section was so busy back then I didn't notice the rest of the forum

[Niamh.]

Same :joker: But the BB section was so busy back then I didn't notice the rest of the forum

Yeah that's true, it was crazy busy back then

[thesheriff443]

josy on loose women now!

[Kizzy]

I'd probably tell them about all the weddings.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-psSaCpk6VKY/UGM3edtIV8I/AAAAAAAADPE/BkC8uaKjoAg/s1600/michael-jordan-laughing.gif

Don't tell them about your obsession with certain crusties on here!
They would run a mile :joker:

[Jesus.]

Don't tell them about your obsession with certain crusties on here!
They would run a mile :joker:

I would be unable to tell them about my obsession with "crusties", for one simple reason - I don't know what "crusties" are. If you flesh out the detail, then that would be appreciated.

[Petershaw1984]

Its much more relaxed than other forums *shakes fist at ds you can interact with the mods (can sometimes be a good thing ) as they regularly post.

Its not all about big brother, there is always another reality tv show to post about, and you can pretty much bet that marcus will fall in love with a "big" of't telly that we all thinks is pretty darn ****e.

[Petershaw1984]

I would be unable to tell them about my obsession with "crusties", for one simple reason - I don't know what "crusties" are. If you flesh out the detail, then that would be appreciated.

Ask marcus, he was telling me something about his crusty underpants the other day, he should know

[Smithy]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lknaxnGr901qbpemeo1_r1_500.gif

[patsylimerick]

I'd like five thousand words on what they think they can bring to the forum and the written approval of a mental health professional with a recognised qualification. Is that too much to ask?

Not at all. I think I'm around long enough (if not often enough) to escape the requirement; but I don't think I could be arsed. :xyxwave:

No... and of course, applicants can bypass the process with cash. I don't mind splitting it with you...

Now I'm trying to figure out which option would cost me less...............

Its much more relaxed than other forums *shakes fist at ds you can interact with the mods (can sometimes be a good thing ) as they regularly post. Its not all about big brother, there is always another reality tv show to post about, and you can pretty much bet that marcus will fall in love with a "big" of't telly that we all thinks is pretty darn ****e.

I completely disagree with your first point. The familiarity of the Mods on here is a major turn off. They have their buddies and pets and hold grudges - from what I've seen. Not good - the DS model of being mods, rather than posters (and not wanting to be all things to all men) is a much saner, safer option. There's also a bit of grandstanding - do we really need to have I AM A MOD writ large under the name of a MOD everytime they post?

Tibbs is a great site, but it's exceptionally, extraordinarily unwelcoming, in my experience. Newcomers are treated with disdain and suspicion and a lot of people, I'd imagine, find the frosty reception doesn't balance the rewards of acceptance.

[Doogle]

I'd just tell them about Scott and they'll stay.

[InOne]

Not at all. I think I'm around long enough (if not often enough) to escape the requirement; but I don't think I could be arsed. :xyxwave:



Now I'm trying to figure out which option would cost me less...............



I completely disagree with your first point. The familiarity of the Mods on here is a major turn off. They have their buddies and pets and hold grudges - from what I've seen. Not good - the DS model of being mods, rather than posters (and not wanting to be all things to all men) is a much saner, safer option. There's also a bit of grandstanding - do we really need to have I AM A MOD writ large under the name of a MOD everytime they post?

Tibbs is a great site, but it's exceptionally, extraordinarily unwelcoming, in my experience. Newcomers are treated with disdain and suspicion and a lot of people, I'd imagine, find the frosty reception doesn't balance the rewards of acceptance.

Don't hold back will you patsy :pipe: :tongue:

[patsylimerick]

Don't hold back will you patsy :pipe: :tongue:

I don't tend to :spin:

I was recently remembering your befuddlement the night a gang of us joined MIDS on here :joker: 'Twas funny. You, Livia, Fruitcake and a few more are worth the lurk, every now and then. It's a great site - but the moderation is ****e.

*awaits ban* :whistle:

[InOne]

I don't tend to :spin:

I was recently remembering your befuddlement the night a gang of us joined MIDS on here :joker: 'Twas funny. You, Livia, Fruitcake and a few more are worth the lurk, every now and then. It's a great site - but the moderation is ****e.

*awaits ban* :whistle:

Ahhh yeah, within minutes of you joining I called you all psychotic DS rejects and was arguing with Pyramid :joker:

T'was all good fun though and you took it well, I got on with most of you after that initial ruckus

[Kazanne]

Not at all. I think I'm around long enough (if not often enough) to escape the requirement; but I don't think I could be arsed. :xyxwave:



Now I'm trying to figure out which option would cost me less...............



I completely disagree with your first point. The familiarity of the Mods on here is a major turn off. They have their buddies and pets and hold grudges - from what I've seen. Not good - the DS model of being mods, rather than posters (and not wanting to be all things to all men) is a much saner, safer option. There's also a bit of grandstanding - do we really need to have I AM A MOD writ large under the name of a MOD everytime they post?

Tibbs is a great site, but it's exceptionally, extraordinarily unwelcoming, in my experience. Newcomers are treated with disdain and suspicion and a lot of people, I'd imagine, find the frosty reception doesn't balance the rewards of acceptance.

Hello Patsy,hope you post here more often:xyxwave:

[MTVN]

To be fair nobody in their right mind would want to voluntarily moderate this site if they weren't allowed to post and be a part of the forum

[patsylimerick]

Ahhh yeah, within minutes of you joining I called you all psychotic DS rejects and was arguing with Pyramid :joker: T'was all good fun though and you took it well, I got on with most of you after that initial ruckus

We were doing our Bennite nonsense - lots of jolly, spiffing, splendiferous and orgasming over the range of smilies. This one's still my favourite :elephant: That might have something to do with my fondness for a good red wine..........

Sorry, am feeling a bit maudlin. Catch you around the forum xxxx

[_Seth]

TinyC

That still goes on? I haven't been to one in ages. :(

[patsylimerick]

To be fair nobody in their right mind would want to voluntarily moderate this site if they weren't allowed to post and be a part of the forum

Here's a mad suggestion. Moderate. And post. But DON'T TELL US YOU'RE DOING BOTH!!!!

[Kazanne]

We were doing our Bennite nonsense - lots of jolly, spiffing, splendiferous and orgasming over the range of smilies. This one's still my favourite :elephant: That might have something to do with my fondness for a good red wine..........

Sorry, am feeling a bit maudlin. Catch you around the forum xxxx

I was a member of the bennites,it was great fun when you all came on here.ah.those were the days.not so much fun here anymore

[MTVN]

Here's a mad suggestion. Moderate. And post. But DON'T TELL US YOU'RE DOING BOTH!!!!

I'm afraid I don't understand you

[patsylimerick]

I was a member of the bennites,it was great fun when you all came on here.ah.those were the days.not so much fun here anymore

That Rest in Peace picture is absolutely beautiful. You have fantastic taste by the way ................. gerard butler....................yummy..............

[patsylimerick]

I'm afraid I don't understand you

There is no reason why moderators cannot be posters too. However, the fact that the posters who are moderators is advertised tips the balance of any conversation, I would respectfully suggest. When posters become moderators (as I believe is what happens here, rather than the reverse); they should simply become moderators. Correspondence between them and other posters would not need to identify the moderators by their posting moniker.

[Kizzy]

Haha! class!
Hello patsy, nice to meet you :)
What's a bennite?

[Kazanne]

That Rest in Peace picture is absolutely beautiful. You have fantastic taste by the way ................. gerard butler....................yummy..............

Thanks Patsy,I do so miss Pyramid and Yes Gerard is THE man:joker:I've been talking to Vodka today,would love it if you were both here more:hugesmile:I do still use DS sometimes.

[patsylimerick]

Haha! class! Hello patsy, nice to meet you :) What's a bennite?

Hi Kizzy, First of all, I love the pogues, I love Julian Clary and I saw you were a friend of Pyramid so it's great to talk to you.

A bennite is just a fan of Ben in BB11 - though I notoriously resisted the term 'fan'. I prefer supporter. I don't do appreciation threads or any of that nonsense. :xyxwave:

[Kazanne]

Haha! class!
Hello patsy, nice to meet you :)
What's a bennite?

We were all fans er sorry supporter,lol,of Ben in BB Kizzy:hugesmile:

[Apple202]

Not at all. I think I'm around long enough (if not often enough) to escape the requirement; but I don't think I could be arsed. :xyxwave:



Now I'm trying to figure out which option would cost me less...............



I completely disagree with your first point. The familiarity of the Mods on here is a major turn off. They have their buddies and pets and hold grudges - from what I've seen. Not good - the DS model of being mods, rather than posters (and not wanting to be all things to all men) is a much saner, safer option. There's also a bit of grandstanding - do we really need to have I AM A MOD writ large under the name of a MOD everytime they post?

Tibbs is a great site, but it's exceptionally, extraordinarily unwelcoming, in my experience. Newcomers are treated with disdain and suspicion and a lot of people, I'd imagine, find the frosty reception doesn't balance the rewards of acceptance.

yes yes and YES

[Kazanne]

yes yes and YES

Hello Apple how are you?

[InOne]

We were doing our Bennite nonsense - lots of jolly, spiffing, splendiferous and orgasming over the range of smilies. This one's still my favourite :elephant: That might have something to do with my fondness for a good red wine..........

Sorry, am feeling a bit maudlin. Catch you around the forum xxxx

Ughhhhh, don't remind of the Bennites LOL they were so bloody annoying on the forum, thank god I wasn't a member of DS back then

[MTVN]

There is no reason why moderators cannot be posters too. However, the fact that the posters who are moderators is advertised tips the balance of any conversation, I would respectfully suggest. When posters become moderators (as I believe is what happens here, rather than the reverse); they should simply become moderators. Correspondence between them and other posters would not need to identify the moderators by their posting moniker.

Well that's out of our hands, personally I think it's better for the Mod's to be easily identifiable in case anyone needs to ask a question or need help with something, it also means that if a thread's getting out of hand then it can be solved by a Mod posting/advising it gets back on track instead of just anonymous infractions or whatever being handed out or threads being closed with no explanation

[Shaun]

Hello MTVN how are you? yeah this isn't a chat thread kazanne just piss off already

[Apple202]

Hello Apple how are you?

im good, feel like im about to fall asleep tho.. wbu?:)

[Kazanne]

im good, feel like im about to fall asleep tho.. wbu?:)

Feel quite lively tonight which is worrying as I should get some sleep:hugesmile:

[Doogle]

I can't imagine being a mod on a forum where I just have to look out for people breaking rules and telling them off and not being able to write my own opinion

[InOne]

Well that's out of our hands, personally I think it's better for the Mod's to be easily identifiable in case anyone needs to ask a question or need help with something, it also means that if a thread's getting out of hand then it can be solved by a Mod posting/advising it gets back on track instead of just anonymous infractions or whatever being handed out or threads being closed with no explanation

This thread is getting out of control, calm it down or infractions will be given

[MTVN]

Well exactly, where would be without Niamh's bold font, or Ben's orange writing, when things are getting a bit out of hand

[Apple202]

Feel quite lively tonight which is worrying as I should get some sleep:hugesmile:

haha, i always tell myself to go to sleep earlier but i always end up staying on my comp til at least 1 :p

[patsylimerick]

Ughhhhh, don't remind of the Bennites LOL they were so bloody annoying on the forum, thank god I wasn't a member of DS back then

I didn't come here til after BB11 - so don't know what it was like on here. Ben was by far the best of a bad lot for me that year. His fans were all so articulate. I'm an 'articulateness' (probably not a word) snob.:joker: A better class of poster :kiss: Fed into my need to ingratiate myself with my social betters................

Well that's out of our hands, personally I think it's better for the Mod's to be easily identifiable in case anyone needs to ask a question or need help with something, it also means that if a thread's getting out of hand then it can be solved by a Mod posting/advising it gets back on track instead of just anonymous infractions or whatever being handed out or threads being closed with no explanation

If you need to ask a question or need help, there should be, and is, a point of contact. On other sites, the mods can happily and easily post to advise that a thread gets back on track as a site MOD, unidentified as an individual. I don't see where that would be a sticking point at all.

[Kazanne]

I can't imagine being a mod on a forum where I just have to look out for people breaking rules and telling them off and not being able to write my own opinion

Giving your opinions is fine it's when those opinions start to upset other people thats when I think someone should be told,just my opinion of course,

[patsylimerick]

I can't imagine being a mod on a forum where I just have to look out for people breaking rules and telling them off and not being able to write my own opinion

There should be a separation, though, of the position of authority (which is necessary and great) and the position of a poster (which is necessary and great). Post as a mod when you're a mod; post as an individual otherwise. It's not rocket science - it works perfectly well elsewhere and avoids the pitfalls of sychophancy and tip-toeing and publicly aired vendettas.

[InOne]

Well exactly, where would be without Niamh's bold font, or Ben's orange writing, when things are getting a bit out of hand

You are testing my patience

[Kazanne]

There should be a separation, though, of the position of authority (which is necessary and great) and the position of a poster (which is necessary and great). Post as a mod when you're a mod; post as an individual otherwise. It's not rocket science - it works perfectly well elsewhere and avoids the pitfalls of sychophancy and tip-toeing and publicly aired vendettas.

Aw Patsy your a breath of fresh air:hugesmile:

[Niamh.]

I didn't come here til after BB11 - so don't know what it was like on here. Ben was by far the best of a bad lot for me that year. His fans were all so articulate. I'm an 'articulateness' (probably not a word) snob.:joker: A better class of poster :kiss: Fed into my need to ingratiate myself with my social betters................



If you need to ask a question or need help, there should be, and is, a point of contact. On other sites, the mods can happily and easily post to advise that a thread gets back on track as a site MOD, unidentified as an individual.

Well, as a moderator on this site, I know I wouldn't stick around if I wasn't allowed post my opinion on Big Brother.............that was why I joined in the first place after all........are you expecting people to give up their time, unpaid, to just infract people and not actually be apart of the forum?

[Kizzy]

Hi Kizzy, First of all, I love the pogues, I love Julian Clary and I saw you were a friend of Pyramid so it's great to talk to you.

A bennite is just a fan of Ben in BB11 - though I notoriously resisted the term 'fan'. I prefer supporter. I don't do appreciation threads or any of that nonsense. :xyxwave:

Ah yes I get it now, bennite haha!
Pyra and I clashed massively on most things socially and politically funnily enough,we were both quite dogmatic with our views:)
She was probably one of the friendliest posters in the forum to new members.
We had some great debates, and I miss her.

[patsylimerick]

[QUOTE=patsylimerick;5751553]I didn't come here til after BB11 - so don't know what it was like on here. Ben was by far the best of a bad lot for me that year. His fans were all so articulate. I'm an 'articulateness' (probably not a word) snob.:joker: A better class of poster :kiss: Fed into my need to ingratiate myself with my social betters................ If you need to ask a question or need help, there should be, and is, a point of contact. On other sites, the mods can happily and easily post to advise that a thread gets back on track as a site MOD, unidentified as an individual. Well, as a moderator on this site, I know I wouldn't stick around if I wasn't allowed post my opinion on Big Brother.............that was why I joined in the first place after all........are you expecting people to give up their time, unpaid, to just infract people and not actually be apart of the forum?

Hi Niamh. If you read back through the thread, that's not what I'm saying at all. Be 'Niamh' the poster. Also be a mod. No problem. But everyone knowing you're a mod changes the tone of their interaction with you and around you. When you post as a mod, use a generic forum sig. Then you get to do your job and you also get to post when and what you want.

[Doogle]

Giving your opinions is fine it's when those opinions start to upset other people thats when I think someone should be told,just my opinion of course,
I appreciate that, but opinions are something that will never please everyone (as we're witnessing right now since I'm replying to this haha) and I think that a mod should still be able to express their views as long as they are of course sticking to the rules of the forum.

There should be a separation, though, of the position of authority (which is necessary and great) and the position of a poster (which is necessary and great). Post as a mod when you're a mod; post as an individual otherwise. It's not rocket science - it works perfectly well elsewhere and avoids the pitfalls of sychophancy and tip-toeing and publicly aired vendettas.

I think for the most part the forum works very well with moderators and members sort of being on a similar level. It may look strange and of course I'm not speaking on behalf of the mods but I do think it's nice that the mods can give their thoughts as well as have to do the job of helping people and cleaning the forum. It's only the occasional vendetta and it really isn't that often. If a mod was abusing their power that much, they would have those rights taken away from them. I'm fairly certain of that.

[Niamh.]

[QUOTE=Niamh.;5751564]

Hi Niamh. If you read back through the thread, that's not what I'm saying at all. Be 'Niamh' the poster. Also be a mod. No problem. But everyone knowing you're a mod changes the tone of their interaction with you and around you. When you post as a mod, use a generic forum sig. Then you get to do your job and you also get to post when and what you want.

Well, that's not up to us, that's up to admin, there's not a whole lot we can do about that

[patsylimerick]

Ah yes I get it now, bennite haha! Pyra and I clashed massively on most things socially and politically funnily enough,we were both quite dogmatic with our views:) She was probably one of the friendliest posters in the forum to new members. We had some great debates, and I miss her.

She was a diamond. Smart, witty and unreverentially passionate. However, and this is the important part - the craic on the discussion boards was only ever that for Mids; she never judged someone by their opinions. She could disagree fundamentally with you and she was like a dog with a bone. But she had a heart of gold and she'd do anything for you.

[patsylimerick]

I appreciate that, but opinions are something that will never please everyone (as we're witnessing right now since I'm replying to this haha) and I think that a mod should still be able to express their views as long as they are of course sticking to the rules of the forum. I think for the most part the forum works very well with moderators and members sort of being on a similar level. It may look strange and of course I'm not speaking on behalf of the mods but I do think it's nice that the mods can give their thoughts as well as have to do the job of helping people and cleaning the forum. It's only the occasional vendetta and it really isn't that often. If a mod was abusing their power that much, they would have those rights taken away from them. I'm fairly certain of that.

I'm simply answering the question that was posed in the OP - as someone who joined in 2010.

[QUOTE=patsylimerick;5751573] Well, that's not up to us, that's up to admin, there's not a whole lot we can do about that

Again, I'm simply entering the discusssion. It's a fairly academic point now, as the mods are known and identified and you can't reverse the flow. It's just a point in a discussion.

[MTVN]

So basically what you're suggesting is that every Moderator action should be done anonymously, which'd just make the Mods less accountable?

[Niamh.]

I'm simply answering the question that was posed in the OP - as someone who joined in 2010.

[QUOTE=Niamh.;5751579]

Again, I'm simply entering the discusssion. It's a fairly academic point now, as the mods are known and identified and you can't reverse the flow. It's just a point in a discussion.

Well, Infractions are given from an anonymous staff account but everyone knows who the mods are, that's not our choice, it's just the way it's always been. tbh most people on the forum don't have a problem with it, I think most people here can still have a laugh with us as easy as they would with any other member but like I said, that's the way it is, it's not our choice but we all seem to manage just fine

[patsylimerick]

So basically what you're suggesting is that every Moderator action should be done anonymously, which'd just make the Mods less accountable?

The site needs to be accountable - with proper appeal and review systems in place; not individual mods. Large sites have dozens, probably hundreds, of moderators. The lines are too blurred on here. My opinion.

[patsylimerick]

[QUOTE=patsylimerick;5751596]I'm simply answering the question that was posed in the OP - as someone who joined in 2010. Well, Infractions are given from an anonymous staff account but everyone knows who the mods are, that's not our choice, it's just the way it's always been. tbh most people on the forum don't have a problem with it, I think most people here can still have a laugh with us as easy as they would with any other member but like I said, that's the way it is, it's not our choice but we all seem to manage just fine

I'm tempted to ask who 'we all' is - as the question in the OP was about trying to maintain NEW members. In any event, I will agree to disagree with the system - not with you; as you say, that's the way the site is set up.

[Niamh.]

The site needs to be accountable - with proper appeal and review systems in place; not individual mods. Large sites have dozens, probably hundreds, of moderators. The lines are too blurred on here. My opinion.


You've hardly even posted here in the 2/3 years you've been a member, how could you possibly know that? We obviously are no where near as busy enough a site to have "hundreds" of mods, I don't know what exactly you're suggesting?

[MTVN]

The site needs to be accountable - with proper appeal and review systems in place; not individual mods. Large sites have dozens, probably hundreds, of moderators. The lines are too blurred on here. My opinion.

Well there is an appeals sub forum here which members can use privately where their posts are only seen by the Mods and Admin. True large sites do have a lot more Mods and maybe they do have a more efficient system, but it's not necessarily feasible on here given how this forum is quite small and tighter knit comparatively

[patsylimerick]

You've hardly even posted here in the 2/3 years you've been a member, how could you possibly know that? We obviously are no where near as busy enough a site to have "hundreds" of mods, I don't know what exactly you're suggesting?

Why so defensive Niamh? I'm busy. I came back when I heard that my good friend Mids had died and posted on her tribute thread - then, having renewed my password, I continued to post. I'm suggesting, quite clearly, that moderators - be they posters or not - should post anonymously and professionally as moderators.

[InOne]

Ah yes I get it now, bennite haha!
Pyra and I clashed massively on most things socially and politically funnily enough,we were both quite dogmatic with our views:)
She was probably one of the friendliest posters in the forum to new members.
We had some great debates, and I miss her.

She was a diamond. Smart, witty and unreverentially passionate. However, and this is the important part - the craic on the discussion boards was only ever that for Mids; she never judged someone by their opinions. She could disagree fundamentally with you and she was like a dog with a bone. But she had a heart of gold and she'd do anything for you.

Perhaps these posts should be moved to the R.I.P thread. Not really much to do with the topic of the thread...

[patsylimerick]

Well there is an appeals sub forum here which members can use privately where their posts are only seen by the Mods and Admin. True large sites do have a lot more Mods and maybe they do have a more efficient system, but it's not necessarily feasible on here given how this forum is quite small and tighter knit comparatively

Thanks for not jumping down my throat. I still think, hypothetically, it would be possible on a smaller site. I don't think it would work on here now, obviously, as that boat has sailed and the mods are identified - as I said earlier.

Anyway, I hope that in the morning this conversation will answer a few questions for the OP about what sometimes convinces posters to keep posting - or to not keep posting - on TIBBS.

[Niamh.]

Why so defensive Niamh? I'm busy. I came back when I heard that my good friend Mids had died and posted on her tribute thread - then, having renewed my password, I continued to post. I'm suggesting, quite clearly, that moderators - be they posters or not - should post anonymously and professionally as moderators.

Why so defensive? Because I'm a moderator and a regular member of this site.

One may ask why a person who very rarely posts would have so much criticisms of a site they barely ever post on?

[Shaun]

CAN WE PLEASE FIX OUR QUOTES BEFORE WE POST

dey lookin' ugly as hell

[Redway]

I appreciate that, but opinions are something that will never please everyone (as we're witnessing right now since I'm replying to this haha) and I think that a mod should still be able to express their views as long as they are of course sticking to the rules of the forum.



I think for the most part the forum works very well with moderators and members sort of being on a similar level. It may look strange and of course I'm not speaking on behalf of the mods but I do think it's nice that the mods can give their thoughts as well as have to do the job of helping people and cleaning the forum. It's only the occasional vendetta and it really isn't that often. If a mod was abusing their power that much, they would have those rights taken away from them. I'm fairly certain of that.

Yeah, this. Over on DS it's as if the moderators are a bunch of robots and whenever a thread gets heated they copy and paste "this thread has been closed at it is no longer at an acceptable standard of discussion" LOL.

That and you could insult literally anyone on there (an autistic girl was targeted and bullied by trolls) and get off scot-free, yet you could get a week ban for rolling your eyes at someone. D:

It's just terribly moderated and idiotic.

[Benjamin]

Why did this become a mod bashing thread? I personally think we do a great job on here, and we help everyone out the best we can, including going out of our way to get you festive names, running games and to get the forum involved in events like designing new skins etc.

There will always be a clash every so often between mods and members, that happens on every forum, but we are very fair, even if your personal opinion feels differently. The way mods and admin have run this site has worked over the years and most of you have stayed on the site.

[Smithy]

I'd also tell them to avoid this thread

[Jesus.]

http://gifs.gifbin.com/122010/1291664255_obama-kiks-door-open.gif

[Niamh.]

I'd also tell them to avoid this thread

:worship:

[Jesus.]

Show them my post history, and ask if they're really prepared to let that go.

[Glenn.]

Hi Niamh. If you read back through the thread, that's not what I'm saying at all. Be 'Niamh' the poster. Also be a mod. No problem. But everyone knowing you're a mod changes the tone of their interaction with you and around you. When you post as a mod, use a generic forum sig. Then you get to do your job and you also get to post when and what you want.


It doesn't change the interaction at all.

[Niamh.]

It doesn't change the interaction at all.

Thanks Glenn :love:

[Shaun]

if anything I'm more of a prick to Niamh because she's a mod

[Benjamin]

if anything I'm more of a prick to Niamh because she's a mod

:joker:

[Glenn.]

I like the interaction with the mods. TiBB would be horrid without 'human' mods and like Shaun said, the banter with the mods :love:

[Niamh.]

if anything I'm more of a prick to Niamh because she's a mod

That's true actually, maybe I'll perma ban you for the luls on Jan 23rd :hmph: I just made that date up as my revenge date :idc:

[Kizzy]

I'm saying nowt......

[Shaun]

That's true actually, maybe I'll perma ban you for the luls on Jan 23rd :hmph: I just made that date up as my revenge date :idc:

i'll be busy on my birthday so do your worst :idc:

[Glenn.]

-waits for bold Niamh- :love:

[Shaun]

also I'm not sure if I'm touched or concerned you remember my birthday

[Niamh.]

Happy Birthday Shaun

omg, is that actually you're birthday? I've had a few weird physic internet moments in the last few days

[Glenn.]

:lovedup:

[Shaun]

tbf all of my usernames elsewhere are bugsy2301 - 23rd of 01 :p

[Niamh.]

tbf all of my usernames elsewhere are bugsy2301 - 23rd of 01 :p

You say "elsewhere" like I know where elsewhere is :laugh:

[Ammi]

...what good things (of which there are many)..would you say to describe the forum and what it has to offer, off season....favourite sections, games, awards etc...

..this isn't a thread about specific favourite members...or an opportunity to have a moan about things you're not happy with..(you always get gripes on any forum site and perfection is impossible)..but as we all know, this is one of the best/friendliest forums...and not just for BB fans....

..what is it you love about TiBB...?...the highlights and the 'best bits'.....


.................

[Ammi]

I don't think you can really persuade anyone to stay or not. They either do or they don't. I just stayed in the BB section when I first joined and then gradually went to different parts. Nobody asked me to stick around, I just did lol TiBB does have lots of different things to offer but they might not be for everyone.

..I know I used the word 'persuade' in the OP Joe..but the thread was meant to be more to concentrate on the great things about TiBB, of which there are many..and even the 'moaners' keep logging back on and posting here..so it can't be as bad as they moan about, can it..?...I feel as though there has been a lot of negativity here recently, so it's always good to balance that out with the good things..especially with the new CBB posters..let them know that it's a good friendly site, if they feel like hanging around off season..more of a 'PR' thing than persuassion....

...how ironic...

[Kazanne]

tbf all of my usernames elsewhere are bugsy2301 - 23rd of 01 :p

Have we gone off topic here:hugesmile:I think people should be able to say how they feel 'truthfully' about the site without feeling they could get banned or jumped on,no one should have to pussy foot about,I will be honest,I used to love it here,but it's not the same now,I have met some lovely people though,they keep me here.

[Kazanne]

..I know I used the word 'persuade' in the OP Joe..but the thread was meant to be more to concentrate on the great things about TiBB, of which there are many..and even the 'moaners' keep logging back on and posting here..so it can't be as bad as they moan about, can it..?...I feel as though there has been a lot of negativity here recently, so it's always good to balance that out with the good things..especially with the new CBB posters..let them know that it's a good friendly site, if they feel like hanging around off season..more of a 'PR' thing than persuassion....

...how ironic...

I agree to a point Ammi,but if I'm being honest it's not always so friendly of late is it?

[Marc]

Stop going off topic!!!! But while I'm here.. Would you all like to comment on my new jumper?

[Kazanne]

Stop going off topic!!!! But while I'm here.. Would you all like to comment on my new jumper?

Well what's good for one is good for another!! and no your jumper is rank:hugesmile:

[Marc]

Well...

[Jesus.]

I certainly wouldn't show them the same tired old posts by people that just drone on and on and on.

And on.

And on.

And on.

[Jesus.]

Stop going off topic!!!! But while I'm here.. Would you all like to comment on my new jumper?

Pics or G.T.F.O

[Ammi]

..I don’t understand what people expect from forum moderators..I’ve also posted on DS where ‘no moderator presence’ is felt..imo, that certainly doesn’t work..you don’t feel so protected and whether people admit it or not, there are some very ‘trollish’ and insulting members on every forum and it’s important for the people who post for the right reasons, that they feel protected from them..that they ‘feel’ the presence of moderators and also that they seem approachable and friendly..so that people feel they can go to them..that they’ll get listened to...I’ve also posted on small forums..smaller than TiBB..where like here, the mods post as regular members as well...and it also works well on them to...what would be the alternative..that forums advertise for mods..?..someone who doesn’t know or understand the forum..?...who doesn’t know the difference when certain members are joking or when they’re being intentionally provocative and insulting..?...and what sort of person would that appeal to..?...do we have to offer a salary as incentive..?...or maybe they’ll just do it for nothing because they enjoy banning/infracting people..it might have a certain appeal..to a ‘certain type’ of person...or maybe they’re a little perverted and like to be abused by people for their decisions and then be expected to not have the right to reply personally..but only as a generic mod..even though lots of snidey inferences and direct remarks to them are very much personal indeed...

...mods were members long before they became mods..and with that, they’ve made several friends as well...do we expect them to cast all friendships aside for the opportunity to become a mod..?...do we expect them to isolate themselves...lock them up in the towers and not have them interact with ‘their people’..?..create a divide..them and us..?..will we then have a wonderful forum where everyone runs happy and free...and there’s nothing to moan about..?...

..members are asked to become moderators for a very good reason...their names aren’t pulled out of a hat or anything....they are friendly, fair and open minded people who have contributed so much as regular members and gained people’s trust..who most people find approachable...they try their best to balance their mod duties with their own enjoyment of the forum...and put up with endless abuse and insults for doing it..and for giving up so much time to it..who would be better qualified to do what they do...?.who would do it better..?...nothing is perfect...NOTHING IS PERFECT..I realise that I said that twice...but so far as internet forums go..reality show based internet forums..TiBB is probably about as good as anyone is going to get...BECAUSE of the mods..and also because of the majority of members as well....and if we didn’t really believe that..then why would we keep logging back on..?...just to moan, provoke and irritate people..?...is there not an internet term for that..?...

...I would also appreciate on a personal level if some people would refrain from saying how much they respected and admired a certain past member..yet that respect isn’t so apparent that they think about her at all when they use her remembrance thread to have a snipe or criticise other members..or that they use her memory to put across their own personal gripes and for their own agenda in other threads..this being a good example..when they never showed any obvious ‘respect or admiration’ when she posted here...there certainly isn’t any secret that the member I refer to and I didn’t exactly see eye to eye for a long time..but I think I have far more respect for her memory and the good things about her, than some people obviously do...or they have a very unusual view of the meaning of respect...

..I’m very, very angry about this thread and what people have used it for...despite the OP being very clear....I’m very angry about the lack of respect shown and the lack of appreciation shown...that people feel so free to voice their very definite opinions..yet offer so little to the forum themselves....

..I request that a Moderator please close the thread now... I don’t think there’s anything left to say....

[Kazanne]

Well...

Your jumper IS rank,but you look good in anything:hugesmile:

[Vanessa]

i love off season! I really enjoyed TIBB Apprentice. I surprised myself at how involved i got. I will definetely play other games on the forum.