Did Razor deserve a formal warning?

[InOne]

Do you think he was out of line?

[Calliekins]

nope... i would have done the same thing....razor just had enough of all the crap flying around

[DigitalSid]

No. Spencer **** himself and overreacted.

[Livia]

Absolutely not. I'm surprised none of the others stepped in. When Spencer started mimicking Ryan's accent like a nasty little school bully, I'd have lamped him... Yeah, you heard me... I'm harder than Razor.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Oh not at all, just Spencer bitching and moaning enough. The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

[armand.kay]

PMSL all he did was stand up and walk into the bedroom :laugh2:

[Cherry Christmas]

yeah Razor deserved it, we didnt see the half of it obviously. BB wouldnt have had to review the footage of the few seconds we saw.

[chuff me dizzy]

He should have splattered the pair of bastards spark out

[InOne]

yeah Razor deserved it, we didnt see the half of it obviously. BB wouldnt have had to review the footage of the few seconds we saw.

I was wondering if the argument may have been edited. So much for bloody fight night eh.

[Monkey Slut]

Yes. He was clearly trying to be physically intimidating.

[MrWong]

yeah Razor deserved it, we didnt see the half of it obviously. BB wouldnt have had to review the footage of the few seconds we saw.

Exactly. It's obvious the worst of his behaviour was edited out.

You don't get a formal warning for shouting.

[Petershaw1984]

He tried to be the big man and won.
speidi never said a wrd about him bekng rude. He is a bullie

[Stevep]

Rules are rules so he probably deserved it but still i'm glad he did it. It's true Speidi are bullying and it's getting pretty tedious the way they are constantly acting the victims when they have chatted **** about pretty much every other HM.

Good on Razor for shutting them up.

[erinp5]

Razor was the only HM that was aggressive,he deserved the warning.
It doesn't matter who's side you are on ,Razor was the aggressor.

[joeysteele]

I would say no he should not have got a warning and I think Big Brother's reaction to Spencer and Heidi and their threats of talking to lawyers stinks of bias towards them.

Razor had already gone back and apologised to both of them,the matter should have been closed from that point.
They accept the apology then still moan and complain.
They are the people being ridiculous and playing to the cameras, I really hope they are nominated on Sunday and that the public vote them out.

I just find the pair of them totally nauseating.

[chuff me dizzy]

When you stand up and shout down to people it is bullying ,this is what the idiots were doing ,They want to think themselves lucky as i would have ripped them limb from limb if they spoke to me like they spoke to the hm8s on tonights show ,they got off lightly

[Josy]

No he never deserved it, they had spoke to him and it looked like they were happy enough to leave it at that, then as soon as those 2 started on about lawyers I knew they would pull him in for a formal warning and they did :bored:

[thesheriff443]

Razor was the only HM that was aggressive,he deserved the warning.
It doesn't matter who's side you are on ,Razor was the aggressor.

this 100%
i dont how you lot can justify razor's behavior!
im a hard bastard my self!,but power is no good without control.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Absolutely yes, a big overreaction. How the hell were Spencer and Heidi bullying Toadflop?

[newsbb]

he wasnt even involved in the argument and acted like an animal in 15 secs time, of course he deserved an warning.

[chuff me dizzy]

I would say no he should not have got a warning and I think Big Brother's reaction to Spencer and Heidi and their threats of talking to lawyers stinks of bias towards them.

Razor had already gone back and apologised to both of them,the matter should have been closed from that point.
They accept the apology then still moan and complain.
They are the people being ridiculous and playing to the cameras, I really hope they are nominated on Sunday and that the public vote them out.

I just find the pair of them totally nauseating.

If only Clare wasnt up ,if it was a 2 way vote between the lunatics and Rylan they would go easily

[DigitalSid]

Yes. He was clearly trying to be physically intimidating.

No, he was succeeding to be physically intimidating :laugh:.

[armand.kay]

He deserved a weight watchers point! He really did break a sweat getting up :(

[Rustic bauble]

No...he apologised and they accepted it...END OF. They are two very provocative people...they slaughtered everyone when they were in the basement unyet cannot accept people having negative opinions against them. No one said anything bad or disrespectful,,they were just observations but Heidi and Spencer seem to think they are the only ones allowed to do that.
Spencer over-stepped the mark with Ryan...everyone except Rylan seemed to just sit and listen to their abuse go on and on and on... Razor simply drew the line at Spencers annialation of Ryan.

Typical of them to go running for the 'lawyer' the minute it does not go their way.... now they are enjoying another cosy night away from the others whilst Razor comes out as the bad guy. They seem to have everyone wrapped around their fingers in their.... couple of nutcases.. one day they might not be so lucky to have Rylan come to their rescue.

[InOne]

he wasnt even involved in the argument and acted like an animal in 15 secs time, of course he deserved an warning.

Somebody needed to show the silly yanks who is boss. And big razor stepped up to the plate.

[Stevep]

this 100%
i dont how you lot can justify razor's behavior!
im a hard bastard my self!,but power is no good without control.

lol, to be fair he did control himself! I dont for one minute believe he would have followed through, it was just an intimidation tactic to shut them up. They are obviously playing the game of the 'badies' but in the process they are mind ****ing everyone with their rants.

do agree though, he deserved the warning.

[ChristmasNeeve]

He should have splattered the pair of bastards spark out

He should have beat up a woman? Really? wow.

I think he absolutely deserved the warning and I think Ryans "joke" was completely out of order

[Kizzy]

He did become a little intimidating but spencer totally overreacted.
Ever since they entered the house the onus has been on not offending these people... No matter how offensive they are.
How crazy is that?.....

[Cherry Christmas]

He deserved a weight watchers point! He really did break a sweat getting up :(

:joker: :joker::joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

No...he apologised and they accepted it...END OF. They are two very provocative people...they slaughtered everyone when they were in the basement unyet cannot accept people having negative opinions against them. No one said anything bad or disrespectful,,they were just observations but Heidi and Spencer seem to think they are the only ones allowed to do that.
Spencer over-stepped the mark with Ryan...everyone except Rylan seemed to just sit and listen to their abuse go on and on and on... Razor simply drew the line at Spencers annialation of Ryan.

Typical of them to go running for the 'lawyer' the minute it does not go their way.... now they are enjoying another cosy night away from the others whilst Razor comes out as the bad guy. They seem to have everyone wrapped around their fingers in their.... couple of nutcases.. one day they might not be so lucky to have Rylan come to their rescue.

agree 100% will ALL you say ,and last night showed a few true colours ,I saw sides to osme I didnt like and would not spend 1p voting to save them ,Frankie being one of them ,Ive been a fan for years and was chuffed when he was in cbb, Gillian the same, only Rylan and Razor will get my support now

[InOne]

No...he apologised and they accepted it...END OF. They are two very provocative people...they slaughtered everyone when they were in the basement unyet cannot accept people having negative opinions against them. No one said anything bad or disrespectful,,they were just observations but Heidi and Spencer seem to think they are the only ones allowed to do that.
Spencer over-stepped the mark with Ryan...everyone except Rylan seemed to just sit and listen to their abuse go on and on and on... Razor simply drew the line at Spencers annialation of Ryan.

Typical of them to go running for the 'lawyer' the minute it does not go their way.... now they are enjoying another cosy night away from the others whilst Razor comes out as the bad guy. They seem to have everyone wrapped around their fingers in their.... couple of nutcases.. one day they might not be so lucky to have Rylan come to their rescue.
:worship:

[Cherry Christmas]

No...he apologised and they accepted it...END OF. They are two very provocative people...they slaughtered everyone when they were in the basement unyet cannot accept people having negative opinions against them. No one said anything bad or disrespectful,,they were just observations but Heidi and Spencer seem to think they are the only ones allowed to do that.Spencer over-stepped the mark with Ryan...everyone except Rylan seemed to just sit and listen to their abuse go on and on and on... Razor simply drew the line at Spencers annialation of Ryan.

Typical of them to go running for the 'lawyer' the minute it does not go their way.... now they are enjoying another cosy night away from the others whilst Razor comes out as the bad guy. They seem to have everyone wrapped around their fingers in their.... couple of nutcases.. one day they might not be so lucky to have Rylan come to their rescue.


but they slaughtered people in retaliation to what was said about them...they didnt go in for the kill first.....until sam blotted his copy book they wanted him to win .

[Monkey Slut]

No...he apologised and they accepted it...END OF. They are two very provocative people...they slaughtered everyone when they were in the basement unyet cannot accept people having negative opinions against them. No one said anything bad or disrespectful,,they were just observations but Heidi and Spencer seem to think they are the only ones allowed to do that.
Spencer over-stepped the mark with Ryan...everyone except Rylan seemed to just sit and listen to their abuse go on and on and on... Razor simply drew the line at Spencers annialation of Ryan.

Typical of them to go running for the 'lawyer' the minute it does not go their way.... now they are enjoying another cosy night away from the others whilst Razor comes out as the bad guy. They seem to have everyone wrapped around their fingers in their.... couple of nutcases.. one day they might not be so lucky to have Rylan come to their rescue.

I think that last line has more relevance to the situation than the rest of the post. No housemate should have to step in like Rylan did.

[terryecosse]

I would say no he should not have got a warning and I think Big Brother's reaction to Spencer and Heidi and their threats of talking to lawyers stinks of bias towards them.

Razor had already gone back and apologised to both of them,the matter should have been closed from that point.
They accept the apology then still moan and complain.
They are the people being ridiculous and playing to the cameras, I really hope they are nominated on Sunday and that the public vote them out.

I just find the pair of them totally nauseating.


Correct.


No...he apologised and they accepted it...END OF. They are two very provocative people...they slaughtered everyone when they were in the basement unyet cannot accept people having negative opinions against them. No one said anything bad or disrespectful,,they were just observations but Heidi and Spencer seem to think they are the only ones allowed to do that.
Spencer over-stepped the mark with Ryan...everyone except Rylan seemed to just sit and listen to their abuse go on and on and on... Razor simply drew the line at Spencers annialation of Ryan.

Typical of them to go running for the 'lawyer' the minute it does not go their way.... now they are enjoying another cosy night away from the others whilst Razor comes out as the bad guy. They seem to have everyone wrapped around their fingers in their.... couple of nutcases.. one day they might not be so lucky to have Rylan come to their rescue.


Correct.

And in addition, Razor should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for diffusing the situation.

Spencers mocking of Ryans accent was nothing short of racism and he should have been kicked out for this.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Correct.





Correct.

And in addition, Razor should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for diffusing the situation.

Spencers mocking of Ryans accent was nothing short of racism and he should have been kicked out for this.

I've heard plenty of the HMs mock Speidis

[chuff me dizzy]

Correct.





Correct.

And in addition, Razor should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for diffusing the situation.

Spencers mocking of Ryans accent was nothing short of racism and he should have been kicked out for this.

She was mocking the English language, but nothing said ,then he does same with Australian

[chuff me dizzy]

[B]


but they slaughtered people in retaliation to what was said about them...they didnt go in for the kill first.....until sam blotted his copy book they wanted him to win .

And what about what THEY said about the others ? I truly hope bb show it on plasma ,watch them squirm

[MrWong]

Correct.





Correct.

And in addition, Razor should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for diffusing the situation.

Spencers mocking of Ryans accent was nothing short of racism and he should have been kicked out for this.

:joker:

[Jake.]

No but I knew it was coming.. my dad said 'no way will he ever get a warning for that' to which I replied 'just you watch'

[Macie Lightfoot]

I've heard plenty of the HMs mock Speidis

Have you though? Speidi are awful people who put themselves in the position to be ostracized by everyone. They dish it out and can't take it and never say anything to people's faces. Thank god Rylan started everything tonight, without him it wouldn't have been nearly as exciting.

[Kizzy]

Exactly they were exceptionally rude and obnoxious initially, and yet they expect nothing but adoration and respect?.....dream on!!! LOL

[Tribal Spaceman]

I'm absolutely disgusted with Channel 5 for pandering to Spencer and Heidi's wishes and telling Razor off for shouting. They've only done it because he's a bigger bloke. Spencer had been going on for ages with his bulgy eyes and booming voice but I didn't see them tell him off, and Rylan had been shouting as well of course They should have had a word with everyone in that argument, or none of them. I don't even like the guy much but he was the only one who stuck up for the others which earns him brownie points in my eyes.

I'm so sick of these nobodies coming in and threatening to get their lawyers every five minutes. When they get a proper star from America, like a movie or pop personality, they usually play fairly and act as part of the team, but not these guys. I quite often root for the villains as they make the show more entertaining but I am over Spencer and Heidi now. They've been given too much preferential treatment.

I wish the other housemates would stop apologising to them, they said nothing that was untrue.

[Robertocarlo]

Seen a lot worse without formal warnings. The only reason it was issued was because the two snitches, Speidi, threatened lawyers - typical Yanks! Hope they go next!!

[InOne]

I'm glad the forum sees sense and the "no" option is winning

[Tribal Spaceman]

It's not because they're American, it's because they're American NOBODIES. The likes of Tara Reid etc played fair when they were in BB as actors are more worldly and accepting of things, but the over privileged types like Speidi and last year's twins thing the solution to everything is to threaten legal action.

Awful people.

[Kizzy]

The lesser of two evils in this instance.

[Suze]

What I don't understand is what is the point of Heidi and Spencer being there still if BB are going to let them run to the basement at the first sign of trouble? It makes no sense? That isn't how BB should be played.

[camertone]

YES, because Rylan, Clare, Ryan were just as loud as Speidi. Razor is big and intimidating, his voice and body language were quite aggressive!

[Tribal Spaceman]

YES, because Rylan, Clare, Ryan were just as loud as Speidi. Razor is big and intimidating, his voice and body language were quite aggressive!

You can't single someone out just because of their appearance. All he did was stand up! :conf::hugesmile:

[terryecosse]

:joker:


Glad you find it funny. Are you a racist yourself?

The Face of Racism (http://www2.carleton.ca/equity/human-rights/racism/the-face-of-racism/)

[MrWong]

Spencers mocking of Ryans accent was nothing short of racism and he should have been kicked out for this.

Glad you find it funny. Are you a racist yourself?

:joker:

Essex isn't a race.

[Rob!]

He should have got a telling off, but I don't think he deserved a formal warning, not from what we saw anyway. Especially seeing as they called him to the Diary room at five in the morning to do it. :D

[terryecosse]

Didn't realise Ryan was from Essex. I always thought he was an Antipodean.

[jegmeister]

so you all think being a violent threatening bully is reasonable behaviour then? quite incredible. some people on this forum don't know the difference between right and wrong.

[Rob!]

so you all think being a violent threatening bully is reasonable behaviour then? quite incredible. some people on this forum don't know the difference between right and wrong.

I don't think he would have actually done anything to be honest.

[Tribal Spaceman]

The only one making threats was Spencer.

[Rob!]

Plus if he really wanted to start a fight, it would have taken a lot more than Rylan to stop him. :joker:

[terryecosse]

:joker:

Essex isn't a race.

Who mentioned Essex? As far as I'm aware, Ryan was born in Victoria, Australia.

[In the Drunk Tank]

No, I even thought it was a bit silly calling him in at all but then making him go back in hours later when he'd apologised for it - to Speidi and to BB - and giving him a "formal warning" was just stupid. All he really did was stand up and shout in what was already quite a heated conversation

[erinp5]

Spencer clashed with Razor moments later, with the sports star ranting: “If you wanna get nasty, I could be the horriblist ****** to you in the world.”

[aman201]

Ofcourse he did.

Absolute random thing to do and was very confrontational.

"I can be the world's biggest cuunt if i want to"

LOL.

[Patricia4]

Im pleased he got a warning I thought he was going to be good but he's another bore.

[MrWong]

Who mentioned Essex? As far as I'm aware, Ryan was born in Victoria, Australia.

Now you're just making **** up :nono:

Australian's aren't a race either btw.

[RawkChickVic]

That formal warning was total BS and only came about becasue Spencer and Heidi kicked off and wanted to see their lawyer, and BB s**t themselves. Spenser was being a prat to Ryan cos he can't take a joke, quite frankly, I wish the entire house had done what Razor did, AND followed through.

[-Sue-]

No he did not deserve the warning - yesterday we had people complaining that noone stood up for the HM's soon as he did he got a slap on the wrist off BB for it!

Wish the other HMs had stepped in too and said 'enough is enough'.. spencer crossed a line..where was his slap on wrist? oh that's right .. a bottle of wine and pampering off BB..

[MrWong]

No he did not deserve the warning - yesterday we had people complaining that noone stood up for the HM's soon as he did he got a slap on the wrist off BB for it!

Wish the other HMs had stepped in too and said 'enough is enough'.. spencer crossed a line..where was his slap on wrist? oh that's right .. a bottle of wine and pampering off BB..

So Rylan starts and they have a row but Spencer crossed the line?

Ryan sticks his nose in and goads Spencer but Spencer crossed the line?

Razor launches himself at Spiedi and aggressively shouts but Spencer crossed the line yeah?

You've got it twisted and need to rewatch last nights episode.

[Bojangles]

It was about time someone put those cocky bullies in their place.Loved the "I need to speak to a lawyer."bit in the diary room,looking as though he'd cacked himself.
I do hope they are up for eviction this week.

[smeagol]

Do you think he was out of line?

yea of course he was. was no need for that over reaction. he revealed what ive been sayin all along that he has been holidng back and not showing his real self .
he is a lot of jim davidson in a lot of ways

[Jesus.]

Technically, yes.

You can't have HM's that front up to each other, and Razor would have got right in his face if he'd been allowed.

Not really a huge issue though.

[Jamie585]

Of course not!! It was bloody pathetic.

[Black Dagger]

Aggressive beast.

[Candy Annie Cane]

BB obviously didn't think it was grounds for a warning initially.

[joeysteele]

BB obviously didn't think it was grounds for a warning initially.

No, it was only after the miserable couple started saying they wanted to talk to their lawyer that BB decided on doing more.

Awful bias towards Spencer and Heidi from BB that.

[Jordan.]

No one should have been warned, it wasn't that bad.

I think the only reason behind it was to not have the people who moaned to ofcom about Conor/Deana doing the same again. :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

Im shocked anyone has said no, frankly.

He was physically intimidating. Anyone here who wouldn't be threatened by a man built like a gorilla shouting and making attempts to get at you is either a liar or stupid.

[-Sue-]

Im shocked anyone has said no, frankly.

He was physically intimidating. Anyone here who wouldn't be threatened by a man built like a gorilla shouting and making attempts to get at you is either a liar or stupid.


Razor raised his voice.. walked towards them..asked them to stop ... nothing like what Spencer did here http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219110

[PrincessIona]

Yes, he was very intimidating

[Tom4784]

No, he calmed down and apologised to them and BB, that should have been the end of it.

[Amy Jade]

Razor raised his voice.. walked towards them..asked them to stop ... nothing like what Spencer did here http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219110

As a person who watched that series I can inform you Spencer was reprimanded for this actions, quite rightly.

Either way why bring that up do two wrongs make a right?

[thesheriff443]

Im shocked anyone has said no, frankly.

He was physically intimidating. Anyone here who wouldn't be threatened by a man built like a gorilla shouting and making attempts to get at you is either a liar or stupid.

great post,
someone who is trained at dealing with aggressive situations would have been wide eyed at the way razor acted.

[-Sue-]

As a person who watched that series I can inform you Spencer was reprimanded for this actions, quite rightly.

Either way why bring that up do two wrongs make a right?

I did not say that at all my point was that he is no angel and his actions on that clip were far worse than standing up & raising voice like razor did! Just wanted to point you in the direction of that thread is all.. people are quick to judge Razor (he apologised realised what he had done) but at least he stood up and defended his Hm's / friends - spencer is not innocent as people make him out to be

[smeagol]

razor was close to doing something he wasn't messing about his chest was out like a ape lol and if spencer had said anything bad at that moment he'd of been on him but spencer didn't.
bb were right to warn him so he doesn't go to far if it occurs again. its only sensible.

plus you got remember its spencer heidi not just spencer here at risk , you cant have women getting caught in fights cause some ape wants to do there husband. in on tv.

[Ellen]

He said sorry to them both & said it wont happen again, he was ok with the argument but said Spencer went to far & was getting nasty, thats when he got annoyed. A telling off from BB yes but not a formal warning.

[Amy Jade]

I haven't seen any Speidi fans claim Spencer is innocent?

If Spencer had done what Razor did in the BB house I'd say the same as I have about Razor about Spencer too.

[Livia]

Spencer accepted Razor's apology and shook his hand. Then he went into the diary room and demanded to speak to the executive producer and his lawyer. When this series started Speidi fans were saying he would rule the house, he wouldn't put up with any crap... turns out that's not true.

Still... looking forward to seeing the reaction of the house if they ever play Speidi's comments about the others on the screen, and hoping BB are not going to spend the whole series kissing the arses of the Pratts.

[thesheriff443]

Spencer accepted Razor's apology and shook his hand. Then he went into the diary room and demanded to speak to the executive producer and his lawyer. When this series started Speidi fans were saying he would rule the house, he wouldn't put up with any crap... turns out that's not true.

Still... looking forward to seeing the reaction of the house if they ever play Speidi's comments about the others on the screen, and hoping BB are not going to spend the whole series kissing the arses of the Pratts.

they will,speidi have bb where they want.

[Livia]

they will,speidi have bb where they want.

I have to disagree. They'll have signed a contract, BB know what's expected of them, and what's expected of Speidi. I'm sure they're not more intelligent that the producers and have some kind of master plan they're putting into action.

I think they get a lot of adoration on this forum... but off the forum I think most people think they're a pair of dorks. We'll see, though.

[thesheriff443]

I have to disagree. They'll have signed a contract, BB know what's expected of them, and what's expected of Speidi. I'm sure they're not more intelligent that the producers and have some kind of master plan they're putting into action.

I think they get a lot of adoration on this forum... but off the forum I think most people think they're a pair of dorks. We'll see, though.

time will tell,but we are not privy to there contract,but if they play, the we are concerned about our safety there is not much bb can do about it.

[MrWong]

Razor raised his voice.. walked towards them..asked them to stop ... nothing like what Spencer did here http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219110

Oh, well if we're going on past evidence. How about Razor deliberately breaking a players legs. Nothing like what Spencer did there.

UXxTyIKDrzo

[Livia]

time will tell,but we are not privy to there contract,but if they play, the we are concerned about our safety there is not much bb can do about it.

No, we're not privvy to their contract, but you have to assume that, as they've been writing up contracts for this show for a while now, and bearing in mind stuff that has gone on before, they will have become quite skilled at covering their arses. And really, after this stuff that BB has orchestrated, they must have known something would kick off. I mean, it's Razor Ruddock. Unless they didn't know who he was when they signed him, they must have known there was a chance he would kick off. And the whole things has been terribly unfair, giving Speidi all the power and really attempting to incite an incident like that.

[Livia]

Oh, well if we're going on past evidence. How about Razor deliberately breaking a players legs. Nothing like what Spencer did there.

UXxTyIKDrzo

That only serves to strengthen my argument that BB knew exactly who they were signing, and the fault is theirs for setting out to incite an argument.

[Ellen]

That only serves to strengthen my argument that BB knew exactly who they were signing, and the fault is theirs for setting out to incite an argument.

Agree.
BB knew exactly who they were getting with Razor & Spencer.
If you are going to deliberately set up a situation for people to argue then you have to accept that the fault is yours when the argument goes to far.

[Rustic bauble]

Im shocked anyone has said no, frankly.

He was physically intimidating. Anyone here who wouldn't be threatened by a man built like a gorilla shouting and making attempts to get at you is either a liar or stupid.

Perhaps then knobhead Spencer should think twice about verberlly and mentally abusing people... He would not have dared mocked Razor like that because he knows he would react. Spencer is a coward and a bully and thats exactly what Razor was getting angry about.
Spencer needs to see that he provokes reaction in his manipulation and as I said earlier...people like him will one day get what they truly deserve.
You can be physically intimidating and mentally intimidating... both warrant the same warning IMO...

[In the Drunk Tank]

Oh, well if we're going on past evidence. How about Razor deliberately breaking a players legs. Nothing like what Spencer did there.

UXxTyIKDrzo

Let's be fair, he only intended to break one of his legs

[-Sue-]

Let's be fair, he only intended to break one of his legs

:joker:

[MrWong]

Let's be fair, he only intended to break one of his legs

Yeah. Razor said that on the clip. Nice fella. :joker:

[Amy Jade]

Perhaps then knobhead Spencer should think twice about verberlly and mentally abusing people... He would not have dared mocked Razor like that because he knows he would react. Spencer is a coward and a bully and thats exactly what Razor was getting angry about.
Spencer needs to see that he provokes reaction in his manipulation and as I said earlier...people like him will one day get what they truly deserve.
You can be physically intimidating and mentally intimidating... both warrant the same warning IMO...

Wait. Lol

So you're saying Razor was wrong to be warned but both actually should have been? Which one?

[Livia]

Wait. Lol

So you're saying Razor was wrong to be warned but both actually should have been? Which one?

I can't speak for Rusticgal, but my interpretation is that both parties should have been warned, or neither.

[emmetmcl]

No. He didn't deserve one but BB were just covering themselves after all the whingers during the Summer who complained about Connor

[seckie]

they will,speidi have bb where they want.

i think it's the other way round.
spencer and hiedi thought they held all the cards when they presumed they knew what the house had been saying about them, but the house didnt know what they had been saying about the house....when in reality, BB had shown rylan just enough for him to take those cards away by deciding that he would steam into them before they could start any confrontation on their own terms.
(im not 100% sure that's clear but wtf):conf:

[catherine2005]

I know Razor and from what we saw on TV, he did NOT deserve to be given a formal warning. If it had been Frankie that had stood up to Speidi or one of the girls, this would not have been an issue - it is only because of Razor's height and frame that they got scared. Razor is a lovely man and was just trying to stop Speidi from intimidating every other housemate, which is what they were doing.

I know many will not agree with me but the way Speidi were behaving, someone needed to step in and calm the situation down. Anything Razor may or may not have done in the past was then, this is now and the reason so many are getting upset is because of his size. Like I said, if it had been Frankie...................

[Jimrod]

I know Razor and from what we saw on TV, he did NOT deserve to be given a formal warning. If it had been Frankie that had stood up to Speidi or one of the girls, this would not have been an issue - it is only because of Razor's height and frame that they got scared. Razor is a lovely man and was just trying to stop Speidi from intimidating every other housemate, which is what they were doing.

I know many will not agree with me but the way Speidi were behaving, someone needed to step in and calm the situation down. Anything Razor may or may not have done in the past was then, this is now and the reason so many are getting upset is because of his size. Like I said, if it had been Frankie...................

It's just like the old Shri/Marcus thing, bullying only ever seems to work one way in BB land. If you're a minority, more famous, smaller than the other guy etc you can basically do what you like.

[Razor]

Razor was aggressive but hey it was entertaining to watch. :)

[Macie Lightfoot]

I still can't believe some people here think Razor deserved a formal warning, it's just because Speidi's the Chosen Ones (both on the forums and with production) so they can do no wrong and anyone who crosses them is evil. All Razor did was raise his voice and stand up, how intimidating :rolleyes:

[Me. I Am Salman]

I still can't believe some people here think Razor deserved a formal warning, it's just because Speidi's the Chosen Ones (both on the forums and with production) so they can do no wrong and anyone who crosses them is evil. All Razor did was raise his voice and stand up, how intimidating :rolleyes:

Um no he came towards them and had to be held back

[InOne]

Razor explained himself it was a tactic in football to defuse situations. He would've never have gone at them or got anywhere near to attacking them.

[Me. I Am Salman]

he's a repulsive hippo he was ready to launch himself at them

[Macie Lightfoot]

Um no he came towards them and had to be held back

http://images.yuku.com/image/png/357362a96056c6901201b84ce116b48cb7770d08_r.png

Yes, he certainly came towards them, how intimidating :joker:

[terryecosse]

he's a repulsive hippo

You're disgusting.

:xyxwave:

[Me. I Am Salman]

http://images.yuku.com/image/png/357362a96056c6901201b84ce116b48cb7770d08_r.png

Yes, he certainly came towards them, how intimidating :joker:

Using a still image is idiotic, it doesn't prove anything so stop trying to act smart.

The way the beast got up from the sofa and speed at which it tried to head towards them was intimidating.

[Me. I Am Salman]

You're disgusting.

:xyxwave:

doesn't bother me :wink:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Using a still image is idiotic, it doesn't prove anything so stop trying to act smart.

The way the beast got up from the sofa and speed at which it tried to head towards them was intimidating.

How about you stop trying to act smart when you're one of the biggest cases of tunnel vision on this forum. That's as close as he got. But if you really want video to see the speed (or lack thereof) he got up from the couch, here ya go.

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/840673

How Dare He Stand Up And Raise His Voice :rolleyes:

[Me. I Am Salman]

Yep I've just rewatched it and now I think you're even more deluded

[Macie Lightfoot]

Your persistence only proves how deluded you are so keep it up

[Me. I Am Salman]

If I hadn't just come off a ban I would eat you up

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ooh I'm sure you would :joker:

[KingBilly]

Somebody needs to give Salman! a moderating position.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Razor explained himself it was a tactic in football to defuse situations. He would've never have gone at them or got anywhere near to attacking them.

They're not on a football pitch now though :nono:

[InOne]

They're not on a football pitch now though :nono:

But it worked in the house too :pipe:

[ChristmasNeeve]

But it worked in the house too :pipe:

Intimidating people into resolving an argument is not on.

[InOne]

Intimidating people into resolving an argument is not on.

I call it putting them in their place. Razor was in perfect control, it was the others that needed calming.

[-Sue-]

I think if Razor had not piped up Spencer would have gone on and on and on .. and on.. and on.. *dramatic pause to waft face with hands*.. and on.. and on..

[InOne]

I think if Razor had not piped up Spencer would have gone on and on and on .. and on.. and on.. *dramatic pause to waft face with hands*.. and on.. and on..

:joker: Definitely!

[-Sue-]

:joker: Definitely!

:joker: hehe true though its like someone stuck a energizer battery up his bum and like the energizer bunny on he went till someone used the 'off' button razor was that button Love razor :hugesmile:

[Black Dagger]

If I hadn't just come off a ban I would eat you up

:joker:

[Jesus.]

Threat of violence is never a way to resolve any conflict.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I call it putting them in their place. Razor was in perfect control, it was the others that needed calming.

That posts pretty much proves my point tbh Joe. He's not their dad, and he has no right to use threatening behaviour to stop arguments. Who the hell does he think he his? The God Father?

[-Sue-]

Threat of violence is never a way to resolve any conflict.

Razor did not threaten violence
(spencer doing the rant we all know by heart)
ryan talking (spencer talking over him)
spencer mocking ryan's accent
razor ' calm down mate'
spencer to ryan'.. I don't need to answer anything to you cos you don't mean anything to me'
(heidi & spencer talking over each other attacking ryan)
heidi ' you should mind your business with your wife
razor 'wow wow wow don't get nasty'
(heidi & spencer still going on can't make it all out)
razor 'cos I can be the 'orriblist *bleep* in the world..wow..oi.. don't get nasty.. (cant make out next bit) alright'
spencer ' excuse me'
razor ' dont you f'in excuse me' *stands up*
razor 'stop getting f'in nasty with people'
(heidi & spencer still going on and being rude )

roughly what was said..can't make out most of speidi as they were all ranting at ryan at the sametime...and talking over eachother

Razor stood up...raised voice that's it!

If Frankie had done the same thing am 100% sure he would not have gotten a formal warning ..

[Jesus.]

Razor did not threaten violence
(spencer doing the rant we all know by heart)
ryan talking (spencer talking over him)
spencer mocking ryan's accent
razor ' calm down mate'
spencer to ryan'.. I don't need to answer anything to you cos you don't mean anything to me'
(heidi & spencer talking over each other attacking ryan)
heidi ' you should mind your business with your wife
razor 'wow wow wow don't get nasty'
(heidi & spencer still going on can't make it all out)
razor 'cos I can be the 'orriblist *bleep* in the world..wow..oi.. don't get nasty.. (cant make out next bit) alright'
spencer ' excuse me'
razor ' dont you f'in excuse me' *stands up*
razor 'stop getting f'in nasty with people'
(heidi & spencer still going on and being rude )

roughly what was said..can't make out most of speidi as they were all ranting at ryan at the sametime...and talking over eachother

Razor stood up...raised voice that's it!

If Frankie had done the same thing am 100% sure he would not have gotten a formal warning ..

You misunderstand. A threat of violence is a different thing to actually threatening to be violent. It's just as menacing though.

You don't need to tell someone you're going to "kick their heads in" for example, in order for their to be an undercurrent of intimidation.

[SharkAttack]

Still liked Razor for showing up to the party. Lending his voice like the colossus he is. A good man. http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp32/sharkattack_torrential/yes.gif

[-Sue-]

You misunderstand. A threat of violence is a different thing to actually threatening to be violent. It's just as menacing though.

You don't need to tell someone you're going to "kick their heads in" for example, in order for their to be an undercurrent of intimidation.


ahh gotcha sorry my bad.. to me it wasn't like that though..he just 'diffused' an awful situation where speidi were allowed to get out of control..

It was like watching 2x 7 year olds fighting over 1 playstation remote between spencer & heidi.. who should have a go first... so daddy razor stepped in and turned the playstation off :D fight over :hugesmile:

[ChristmasNeeve]

This bit annoys me : "heidi ' you should mind your business with your wife
razor 'wow wow wow don't get nasty'

Why is it "getting nasty" for Heidi to say that, but it's perfectly fine for every ****er in there to comment on Speidis relationship??

[Jesus.]

This bit annoys me : "heidi ' you should mind your business with your wife
razor 'wow wow wow don't get nasty'

Why is it "getting nasty" for Heidi to say that, but it's perfectly fine for every ****er in there to comment on Speidis relationship??

I agree with you in the main in this thread, Niamh, but they did enter their relationship into big brother. As they are one person (effectively), then it's only human nature that would be under the microscope.

[-Sue-]

This bit annoys me : "heidi ' you should mind your business with your wife
razor 'wow wow wow don't get nasty'

Why is it "getting nasty" for Heidi to say that, but it's perfectly fine for every ****er in there to comment on Speidis relationship??

I think because Ryan's in there and his wife is not...so noone needs to diss/ bring his wife into the arguement...

I missed a bit of the speidi arguement where everyone is talking over each other just could not make it all out (sorry) hope I haven't missed anything essential..

[SharkAttack]

This bit annoys me : "heidi ' you should mind your business with your wife
razor 'wow wow wow don't get nasty'

Why is it "getting nasty" for Heidi to say that, but it's perfectly fine for every ****er in there to comment on Speidis relationship??

Because they are the complete unapproachable package, and can be hit hard as one, not a fellow all alone with his wife at home. BB should have split them up when they first got there, get them acclimated before stirring the pot. <--referring to Speidi

[ChristmasNeeve]

I understand that but all they said was basically, their relationship is none of his business, he had no right asking them personal questions like that. They didn't say anything about his wife as such, just that his own relationship should be the only one he should be interested in

[-Sue-]

..watching again last nights show..

(just about to return to house)
spencer 'i think razor will be fine'

wait last night they feared for their life! lol SECURITY!

[ChristmasNeeve]

To add to my last post : Which I believe was a fair point considering what he had just said to them

[-Sue-]

I understand that but all they said was basically, their relationship is none of his business, he had no right asking them personal questions like that. They didn't say anything about his wife as such, just that his own relationship should be the only one he should be interested in

Im not sure if Ryan was trying to change subject to diffuse the argueing or just trying to make chatter.. either way speidi attacked him and were insanely rude to ryan for what I believe to be an off-the-wall joke/lighthearted discussion that was meant to be a pebble in the ocean and speidi turned into dropping a boulder in a small puddle! if they really did not want to discuss it they could have just said something like 'we don't really want to talk about that' simple but.. *drumroll* for dramatic effect they turned it into WW10!

[ChristmasNeeve]

Im not sure if Ryan was trying to change subject to diffuse the argueing or just trying to make chatter.. either way speidi attacked him and were insanely rude to ryan for what I believe to be an off-the-wall joke/lighthearted discussion that was meant to be a pebble in the ocean and speidi turned into dropping a boulder in a small puddle! if they really did not want to discuss it they could have just said something like 'we don't really want to talk about that' simple but.. *drumroll* for dramatic effect they turned it into WW10!

That joke just came across as really strange though, I didn't realise it was supposed to be a joke myself until he claimed it was. It was incredibly badly timed and executed if it genuinely was a joke :laugh:

[-Sue-]

That joke just came across as really strange though, I didn't realise it was supposed to be a joke myself until he claimed it was. It was incredibly badly timed and executed if it genuinely was a joke :laugh:
hehe yeah was a doozy of a night...trying to work out who started what and why lol all I know is Ive watched the weekends HL shows many more times than just once lol:joker: great viewing

[ChristmasNeeve]

hehe yeah was a doozy of a night...trying to work out who started what and why lol all I know is Ive watched the weekends HL shows many more times than just once lol:joker: great viewing

haha, well no matter who's side you're on, that can only be a good thing I reckon!

[Livia]

The whole thing is unfair. You can't expect people not to be riled. Big Brother is being much more favourable to Speidi. They have been allowed to pretend their leaving, to spy on the others, not to have anything they've said about the other housemates behind their backs shown in the house, they have humiliated and castigated other housemates for what they've said and now they are allowed to sleep in their own "quarters". I feel a bit sorry for the other housemates that Big Brother is being so unfair in its preferential treatment of Speidi. No wonder there's friction, albeit manufactured friction.

And really - Razor Ruddock - they knew who he was and what he was like. We ALL know what he's like. If you load the dice like BB have done, don't expect someone like him to become a wallflower. He did exactly what he was put in there for and they ticked him off for doing it.

[ChristmasNeeve]

He was far too threatening and aggressive Livia, you can't excuse that behaviour because "It's just razor"

[-Sue-]

haha, well no matter who's side you're on, that can only be a good thing I reckon!

agreed this has been one of the best CBB's in ages for me.. dispite wanting to throw things at my screen when speidi annoy me..or punish them in ways that almost make my hair curl..between the show and this forum (great fun on the forum) Ive even managed to not play as much on FB (and that hardly ever happens) great fun

PS although my ignore list has grown a lot too this year lol :joker:

[ChristmasNeeve]

agreed this has been one of the best CBB's in ages for me.. dispite wanting to throw things at my screen when speidi annoy me..or punish them in ways that almost make my hair curl..between the show and this forum (great fun on the forum) Ive even managed to not play as much on FB (and that hardly ever happens) great fun

PS although my ignore list has grown a lot too this year lol :joker:

:laugh: There's quite a few bores in there as well though, hopefully Claire or Lacey will go this week, need to keep the action going in there for as long as possible

[Livia]

:laugh: There's quite a few bores in there as well though, hopefully Claire or Lacey will go this week, need to keep the action going in there for as long as possible

Don't you disagree with me Niamh, I'll fight you girl...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Don't you disagree with me Niamh, I'll fight you girl...

Sorry about that Raz.........Livia ;)

[-Sue-]

:laugh: There's quite a few bores in there as well though, hopefully Claire or Lacey will go this week, need to keep the action going in there for as long as possible

Yes I have a feeling Claire or Lacey will go too.. (sorry Lacey or Claire fans)

If BB are going to allow Speidi to stay in basement I want them to go..as that is favouratism & I feel it is unfair to allow the other HM's paranoia to grow with speidi not in with the group..I loathe them as people (vile)..

Just wish we could get BB to do more tasks... (even the score BB Rylan wants to see what speidi said too) the show needs a change of pace other than watching HM's apologise to speidi and speidi return to basement and talk badly about the HMs that just apologised.. that is boring 7 kinds of poo out of me *sigh*

..wanders off sorry 5 coffee's today and im babbling like a freak off a leash...

[ChristmasNeeve]

^ Yes, that I do agree with you on, they shouldn't be allowed stay in the Basement like that, it is unfair

[-Sue-]

^ Yes, that I do agree with you on, they shouldn't be allowed stay in the Basement like that, it is unfair

could we get BB to pump in some crazy frog or another annying song in there and play it over and over so they flee the basement?
:devil: (I would say steps & rylans songs but that would only make them bad mouth rylan & claire again):joker: lol or perhaps even soem stink bombs :devil:

sorry im a bit evil today hehe

[terryecosse]

Now you're just making **** up :nono:




What **** am I making up. You claimed Essex wasn't a race, but I don't know why Essex was brought into the conversation. Ryan is from Australia.


:shrug: