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Lee.
14-01-2013, 12:14 PM
I think this has been discussed on here before but I can't remember who said they suffer from them..

I had a really bad one last night (only my 2nd ever) and I'm now feeling really nervous incase it happens again.

Is it normal for them to hit so suddenly when I have no worries or anxieties at all?!

King Gizzard
14-01-2013, 12:16 PM
It's normal (if you suffer from them)...so yeah don't be surprised

They suck don't they

Jake.
14-01-2013, 12:18 PM
I think this has been discussed on here before but I can't remember who said they suffer from them..

I had a really bad one last night (only my 2nd ever) and I'm now feeling really nervous incase it happens again.

Is it normal for them to hit so suddenly when I have no worries or anxieties at all?!

Yeah it's normal. Suffered with them for a couple of years when I was 11 or so. Don't worry!

Lee.
14-01-2013, 12:22 PM
It's normal (if you suffer from them)...so yeah don't be surprised

They suck don't they

They suck ass! I actually thought death was imminent!

I don't really suffer from them though. I've had one before... I was lying on the couch relaxing at the time which I found strange

Jesus.
14-01-2013, 12:24 PM
They suck ass! I actually thought death was imminent!

I don't really suffer from them though. I've had one before... I was lying on the couch relaxing at the time which I found strange

Do you suffer from any kind of sleep condition Lee?

Lee.
14-01-2013, 12:31 PM
Do you suffer from any kind of sleep condition Lee?

Nope, none whatsoever. I sleep well... although last night I woke up feeling scared a couple of times.

Jesus.
14-01-2013, 12:33 PM
I had an ex who used to get them at night time, but she used to have that "witch on the chest" condition.

AnnieK
14-01-2013, 12:35 PM
I think this has been discussed on here before but I can't remember who said they suffer from them..

I had a really bad one last night (only my 2nd ever) and I'm now feeling really nervous incase it happens again.

Is it normal for them to hit so suddenly when I have no worries or anxieties at all?!

I went through a stage of having them Lee for no reason, they are awful aren't they? I didn't have any particular worries at the time which made it worse as I thought I must have some crazy underlying problems. There was no reason for them an they did stop in time. Hopefully it will be a one off for you but try if you can not to worry about more as that worry may cause another.

AnnieK
14-01-2013, 12:37 PM
I had an ex who used to get them at night time, but she used to have that "witch on the chest" condition.

I had those too (I know I sound like a neurotic wreck) but they were the worst kind. Still gave the odd one now and then but know what they are more now.

Lee.
14-01-2013, 01:06 PM
I went through a stage of having them Lee for no reason, they are awful aren't they? I didn't have any particular worries at the time which made it worse as I thought I must have some crazy underlying problems. There was no reason for them an they did stop in time. Hopefully it will be a one off for you but try if you can not to worry about more as that worry may cause another.
Yeah, the thought of another one is making me nervous .. my stomach is in knots and I'm having to force myself to breat (if you know what I mean)

Hopefully it was just a one off :(

Jake.
14-01-2013, 01:09 PM
Aw Lee :hug: I know how you feel, hopefully it was a one off, they are god horrible things

Jesus.
14-01-2013, 01:10 PM
I had those too (I know I sound like a neurotic wreck) but they were the worst kind. Still gave the odd one now and then but know what they are more now.

It was really hard just to sleep next to her. She'd be going mad, and I couldn't wake her up or anything. She had some horrific visions, and some really terrible experiences from them - but you would know more than I do about those.

We'd end up walking up the street at 3 am in the morning to try and clear her head. Really distressing.

LemonJam
14-01-2013, 01:11 PM
Hmm, from some stuff I've just read there could be a lot of reasons. Apparently even small things like caffeine, nicotine or withdrawals from medication can all be stimulants for one. Hope you're okay Lee. :sad::hug:

thesheriff443
14-01-2013, 01:16 PM
panic attacks are the living hell!
they are the closest feeling you will ever get to dying without dying.

Kazanne
14-01-2013, 01:19 PM
panic attacks are the living hell!
they are the closest feeling you will ever get to dying without dying.

Try giving birth sheriff :hugesmile:

Jake.
14-01-2013, 01:23 PM
:joker:

muchadoaboutnothing
14-01-2013, 01:25 PM
I know how you feel Lee. I have had many panic attacks over the years and they can come out of nowhere for no apparent reason. You begin to imagine all sorts of awful things, mainly that of dying and that no one will find you. When I'm having one, I usually go to a neighbour. It is important to be in company, if you can, just so you feel you are not on your own. If no neighbour is available I get out of my flat asap and walk around the grounds outside or sit on a bench making sure there are people about, just in case. I also keep paper bags at hand, remarkably they do calm me a little. When the panic attack is finally over, even though it seems to last ages, you can feel pretty shattered as if your energy has been spent. They are really frightening but you are not alone. And the most important thing is to tell yourself 'no I'm not going to die and I'm going to fight this.' Stay strong.

Ammi
14-01-2013, 01:25 PM
I think this has been discussed on here before but I can't remember who said they suffer from them..

I had a really bad one last night (only my 2nd ever) and I'm now feeling really nervous incase it happens again.

Is it normal for them to hit so suddenly when I have no worries or anxieties at all?!

..yeah, I think it was me that made the thread Lee, I had one a little while ago...I was in the dentist waiting room and I thought I was having a heart attack..seriously..but then I think I made it worse because I tried to hide everything from other people in there, so they didn't make a fuss...

Jake.
14-01-2013, 01:28 PM
My panic attacks used to consist of me worrying that I would run of breath, not be able to breathe at all and die, I used to hate them but they take you by such suprise

Kizzy
14-01-2013, 01:35 PM
I would see your doctor for a check up lee, check your resting heart rate at intervals through the day.
Following a car accident years ago I was given beta blockers for a racing pulse 4 months later! I had no idea why or how it was happening as I felt fine.

AnnieK
14-01-2013, 01:43 PM
I had beta blockers too Kizzy. I still have repeat prescription but thankfully now can control breathing etc that helps when I have an attack.

AnnieK
14-01-2013, 01:45 PM
It was really hard just to sleep next to her. She'd be going mad, and I couldn't wake her up or anything. She had some horrific visions, and some really terrible experiences from them - but you would know more than I do about those.

We'd end up walking up the street at 3 am in the morning to try and clear her head. Really distressing.

They are really distressing. The worst for me was I knew I was having it but couldn't move or alert anyone..I can relate to walking the streets to clear your head fresh air works wonders.

Lee.
14-01-2013, 02:30 PM
Thank you y'all :) its reassuring to know that they do happen for no reason.

Lee.
14-01-2013, 07:01 PM
Aw man.. I feel like I'm going to have another one. This is bloody awful!

AnnieK
14-01-2013, 07:16 PM
Lee, it's dead easy for me to say this but you have to try and relax....is someone in with you? You need to distract yourself, talk about any **** but don't think about it if you can... ring someone if no-one is in with you. If not get one fresh air and take really deep breaths and concentrate on your breathing.....I used to feel mine moving from my toes (weird thing but that's the only way I can describe it) and if I breathed slowly I could stop them...try not to panic as this will make you hyperventilate.....just in through your nose and out through your mouth. Let me know when you are feeling better....

Marc
14-01-2013, 07:18 PM
I don't think I've ever had one but I've been really stressed and have just bawled my eyes out whilst at uni.. But that's literally standard for anybody in their last year!

Lee.
14-01-2013, 07:21 PM
Lee, it's dead easy for me to say this but you have to try and relax....is someone in with you? You need to distract yourself, talk about any **** but don't think about it if you can... ring someone if no-one is in with you. If not get one fresh air and take really deep breaths and concentrate on your breathing.....I used to feel mine moving from my toes (weird thing but that's the only way I can describe it) and if I breathed slowly I could stop them...try not to panic as this will make you hyperventilate.....just in through your nose and out through your mouth. Let me know when you are feeling better....
Thanks Annie.. I've been sitting trying to do deep breathing, but I cannot relax! My whole body is tense and my jaw is hurting as my teeth are so clenched together. I think I'm holding it together by breathing slowly and deeply though :/

AnnieK
14-01-2013, 07:28 PM
Thanks Annie.. I've been sitting trying to do deep breathing, but I cannot relax! My whole body is tense and my jaw is hurting as my teeth are so clenched together. I think I'm holding it together by breathing slowly and deeply though :/

They are so awful, but they do pass and you will learn to control them but hopefully they will stop soon... See your doc if you're worried though.... Let me know when it passes...

Lee.
14-01-2013, 07:56 PM
Thanks Annie.. I'm feeling better now. Still a bit lightheaded but I've not lost it completely :D

Cherie
14-01-2013, 08:03 PM
aw that sounds awful, some good advice on here though.

AnnieK
14-01-2013, 08:11 PM
Thanks Annie.. I'm feeling better now. Still a bit lightheaded but I've not lost it completely :D

Glad you're feeling better. Try not to worry about another one although easier said than done I know. Take care x

mizzy25
14-01-2013, 08:18 PM
seems like chatting on here has helped a bit, hope u feel better soon x

GypsyGoth
14-01-2013, 09:01 PM
:hug:

I've had one before outside a store. And I believe one of the reasons I never had another after was because of my ipod. Now if I'm out and starting to feel anxious I just listen to music.

GypsyGoth
14-01-2013, 09:01 PM
:hug:

I've had one before outside a store. And I believe one of the reasons I never had another after was because of my ipod. Now if I'm out and starting to feel anxious I just listen to music.

GypsyGoth
14-01-2013, 09:10 PM
Yay a double post, I win the thread :cheer:

thesheriff443
14-01-2013, 09:12 PM
Yay a double post, I win the thread :cheer:

that's a good post,distract your mind before the cycle of fear starts to build.

AnnieK
15-01-2013, 05:27 PM
Hey Lee if you're on tonight hope you're having a better day.

Lee.
15-01-2013, 05:39 PM
Thanks Annie. I felt a bit odd for a while at work today and I've has the worst headache imaginable! Is it normal to have such a painful head after an attack?

AnnieK
15-01-2013, 05:43 PM
Yeah I think that will probably be like a stress related thing.

Lee.
18-04-2014, 01:14 AM
Has anybody ever woken up during the night mid panic attack?

I woke up a few nights ago with my ears pounding and my heart raving.. I wanted to get up and do my usual running away from myself but I was still half asleep,. I spent the rest of the night jolting myself awake thinking I couldn't breathe. Surely it's not normal to be panicky whilst asleep??

Kate!
18-04-2014, 01:31 AM
Hello Lee, yes this is quite common, it's often when you're more relaxed that the panic hits. This is how I've had my own attacks explained to me....

When you've had stuff to deal with in the past, and as with everyone life has to go on and you work through it, and move on etc, your brain retains anything you don't properly resolve and eventually, and it can be months or even years later, if there's something there it will surface and panic attacks are your body's way of release. I always feel very tired afterwards, but also very calm and relaxed once it's over (and sometimes it's quick but sometimes it can last hours on and off) so this does make sense to me.

I've been having them a lot lately (Ammi, Annie and Kizzy have been my lifelines tbh - wonderful girls) and I know why, which helps as you really do feel you're going mad, gonna die etc, I always have to get outside urgently, I've walked the streets in the early hours loads so can relate to what Jesus said earlier in thread. I've learned how to breathe through it, it's not easy to get started when you're in a state but it gets easier the more it happens and I can now bring myself out of them more quickly.

If you ever have one and I'm online pm me.

Ammi
18-04-2014, 05:04 AM
Has anybody ever woken up during the night mid panic attack?

I woke up a few nights ago with my ears pounding and my heart raving.. I wanted to get up and do my usual running away from myself but I was still half asleep,. I spent the rest of the night jolting myself awake thinking I couldn't breathe. Surely it's not normal to be panicky whilst asleep??


..yeah that is 'normal'/quite common Lee..panic attacks can happen when you're in a situation of anxiety and your mind can build it up into a 'panic state' without you even realising it or they can happen when your body is relaxed, like Kate said because being relaxed is when your mind is most 'vulnerable'...quite often you have no idea why you're panicking either because the things that are making you anxious aren't conscious worries but subconscious ones but they're kind of pushing their way through or trying to...the subconscious mind is like a photographic memory of everything in your life...and the smallest thing that you're not even aware of can be a 'trigger' for something/maybe something that has caused you to be unhappy/worried/scared in the past and your mind has associated some small familiar to it..?..but because it can be something really subtle and didn't seem to be such a big thing at the time, it's really hard to find the cause and that's what makes the attacks so difficult to control and so scary...

..a lot of it is to do with familiar behaviour patterns as well/how we react to things and maybe those reactions don't really 'resolve' stuff in our heads but just store it away because we haven't wanted to think about it or it's the only way we can deal with it at the time....anyway, medication does help..I know lots of people who have found it works for them but I think it's also good to look at therapies as well and the type of therapy that will help will be different for everyone..just because medication can supress the attacks and make you feel much calmer and able to deal with things but it is only supressing things again and at some point the medication will stop and the attacks could return..I know this all sounds really mad/weird and I wasn't a therapy person at all until I tried CBT, which I found amazing..but for me anyway, just understanding yourself/behaviour patterns/how you process things/your coping abilities etc really does start to dissolve all of your anxieties because you can 'trace' where they come from/understanding is 'control'...oh, it can also happen..(the attacks and anxieties) because of a type of 'layering effect' as well...it's like when people say..ughh, that's the last straw...it's often beyond your control to 'solve' the things that are making you anxious/causing the attacks...but focusing on things that you can control/every day type things and feeling pleased with yourself because you feel that you've done a 'good job' with something or sorted it out or whatever/focusing on the things that you feel you are good at/your strengths..?.....helps a lot and kind of 'gives you power' over the anxieties and diminishes their 'strength'...

..so yeah, lol...

Redway
18-04-2014, 10:10 AM
Has anybody ever woken up during the night mid panic attack?

I woke up a few nights ago with my ears pounding and my heart raving.. I wanted to get up and do my usual running away from myself but I was still half asleep,. I spent the rest of the night jolting myself awake thinking I couldn't breathe. Surely it's not normal to be panicky whilst asleep??

Yeah, I've had quite a few nocturnal panic attacks. Had one just the other night actually... got the usual palpitations, dizziness and difficulty breathing etc. Though I find they're never half as bad as daytime attacks. Terrifying experiences.

Kate!
18-04-2014, 10:12 AM
Lee, you went offline before I posted, I hope you're ok this morning :hug:

Josy
18-04-2014, 10:17 AM
Never had one, they do sound extremely scary though..

Hope you're alright Lee, take care.

T*
18-04-2014, 10:17 AM
I get them :(

T*
18-04-2014, 10:20 AM
Has anybody ever woken up during the night mid panic attack?

I woke up a few nights ago with my ears pounding and my heart raving.. I wanted to get up and do my usual running away from myself but I was still half asleep,. I spent the rest of the night jolting myself awake thinking I couldn't breathe. Surely it's not normal to be panicky whilst asleep??

:hug:
I think it is normal, don't worry. I've felt like that before whilst sleeping.

Niall
18-04-2014, 10:58 AM
They're quite common really, I mean I've often had them for no reason. Usually mine are triggered by big crowds and shopping centres but bizarrely one just struck me when I was walking around the house one day.

When they do happen though it's really helpful to just sit down, take a few deep breaths and distract yourself with something. Like Claudia said, music is really good for that Lee. Hope everything's alright. :hug:

Kizzy
18-04-2014, 11:07 AM
Go to docs lee they will prob give you beta blockers, they really do help, talking does too hope you get sorted asap :hug:

Redway
18-04-2014, 05:36 PM
Go to docs lee they will prob give you beta blockers, they really do help, talking does too hope you get sorted asap :hug:

Yeah, I have propranolol lying around, which I take when I feel an episode building up. They don't do anything with for the emotional/psychological feelings of anxiety (for me anyway) but they block the adrenaline rush so it doesn't turn into a full-blown attack.

Smithy
30-04-2014, 12:14 AM
Has anybody ever woken up during the night mid panic attack?

I woke up a few nights ago with my ears pounding and my heart raving.. I wanted to get up and do my usual running away from myself but I was still half asleep,. I spent the rest of the night jolting myself awake thinking I couldn't breathe. Surely it's not normal to be panicky whilst asleep??

Where is Lee she hasn't been on since this post D:

Benjamin
30-04-2014, 12:25 AM
Where is Lee she hasn't been on since this post D:

Not wanting to go into too much detail about her personal life but she had some family issues recently.

Benjamin
30-04-2014, 12:27 AM
Plus she was online yesterday, Smithy.

Smithy
30-04-2014, 12:27 AM
oh ok, thanks

Benjamin
30-04-2014, 12:28 AM
oh ok, thanks

:laugh:

No worries. I do miss Lee being on here frequently though :(

Lee.
30-04-2014, 12:54 AM
Hello.. Yes I am here :)

Smithy
30-04-2014, 12:55 AM
lee :love:

Shaun
30-04-2014, 01:28 AM
lee :lovedup:

InOne
30-04-2014, 10:56 AM
I had one recently in hospital, probably due to the situation I realised I was in. It was awful really but they dealt with it by giving me loads of librium and that basically sent me completely spaced out and I just fell asleep. I'd hate to think what it's like in public though because if you're on your in I'm sure a lot of people don't actually know what to do.

Kate!
30-04-2014, 12:50 PM
I had one recently in hospital, probably due to the situation I realised I was in. It was awful really but they dealt with it by giving me loads of librium and that basically sent me completely spaced out and I just fell asleep. I'd hate to think what it's like in public though because if you're on your in I'm sure a lot of people don't actually know what to do.

it is awful, I've been shopping when they've started, I used to just go home, sometimes just left my shopping, last couple of times it's happened I have gone and sat somewhere quietly and done breathing exercises, it sounds weird but I've learned techniques to help them pass more quickly, and they work. It took me a while to get the hang of it though, and it feels silly doing it, people have asked me if I'm alright lol. The flight (run away) instinct is so strong, but it's mind over matter, the first time I tried it I had to will myself to even sit down and try not to just go home. And then when it passes I feel fine, so just carry on as I was. Unless you've experienced them it's very hard to explain.

Lee.
30-04-2014, 03:05 PM
I've always wondered why my anxiety/panic attacks started for no apparent cause... I've received devastating news within the last week and apart from the usual reactions and one mini flake out, I have been anxiety free.

I know it sounds really daft, but I think my body has been preparing me for bad news subconsciously. I'm feeling very strong and calm today :)

Ammi
30-04-2014, 03:15 PM
..that's good to hear that you're feeling a better Lee and there are usually are triggers but they can be quite subtle things so it's hard to avoid them..have you ever spoken to anyone about help to control them when you feel them coming..?..

Z
30-04-2014, 04:26 PM
I've always wondered why my anxiety/panic attacks started for no apparent cause... I've received devastating news within the last week and apart from the usual reactions and one mini flake out, I have been anxiety free.

I know it sounds really daft, but I think my body has been preparing me for bad news subconsciously. I'm feeling very strong and calm today :)

Lee :( I hope you're okay :hug: you don't deserve bad things happening to you! I hope whatever the news is, things can and will get better for you... :love: xxx

Benjamin
30-04-2014, 09:16 PM
I've always wondered why my anxiety/panic attacks started for no apparent cause... I've received devastating news within the last week and apart from the usual reactions and one mini flake out, I have been anxiety free.

I know it sounds really daft, but I think my body has been preparing me for bad news subconsciously. I'm feeling very strong and calm today :)

I love you and all will be okay :hug: