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Edwin

24-07-2006, 01:13 AM

read it already.

It seems that this woman thought it was more important to go to the sun than it was to go to the police. Also, why do they always have to go to hotel rooms? They both have houses and i'm pretty positive sezer is single. Why go to a hotel room with sezer alone if they're not going to.. do it. Why have they just met and are at it already?

Doesn't make sense. I know Sezer was a twerp but he doesn't deserve all these allegations if they're false. There are people like albie that will probably vigilante-him.

GlitterEyes

24-07-2006, 01:15 AM

It seems weird aswell as it is the second alleged rape. Seems to pick the wrong girls to take back so much for him waiting for Imogen even if nothing happened I dont think she will go near him after these rumours.

Jay

24-07-2006, 01:18 AM

What some girls would do to get fame and money :rolleyes:

Edwin

24-07-2006, 01:19 AM

The problem is, there are less intelligent people than us, and if they see him in the streets he'll probably get all sorts.

GlitterEyes

24-07-2006, 01:34 AM

I don't know why he asked her back anyway considering he was meant to be waiting for Imogen and her going back without thinking he just wants to share a coffee is odd lol. If she is invited to a hotel then it surely wont just be for coffee.

SNEEZER

24-07-2006, 01:39 AM

If he had half a brain there's no way he'd even consider it given that he has past allegations against him. He's an easy target now though. We really don't have a clue if these allegations or the previous ones are true. I'm guessing they are both false but now that he is out of the house I really don't care. He's like anyone else now.

GlitterEyes

24-07-2006, 01:50 AM

I think that is the downside of being famous, as footballers and other famous people always get accused of things aswell. I suppose we shall just have to see what happens and if he appears at the bb party at the end or keeps low key.

MarkWaldorf

24-07-2006, 08:20 AM

Big Brother contestant Sezer Yurtseven has been arrested and bailed by police investigating an alleged rape.
A City of London police spokesman confirmed a 26-year old man was arrested following an "alleged incident of rape on Friday morning".

The arrest relates to an incident said to have happened at the Great Eastern Hotel in east London, close to Liverpool Street station.

Londoner Mr Yurtseven was voted off the Channel 4 reality game show on 2 June.

A police spokesman added: "He has now been bailed to reappear in Bishopsgate police station on a date in August."

The Sun newspaper said the alleged victim reported the attack within hours and was interviewed by specialist officers.

Mr Yurtseven, a stockbroker, denies the allegation and will answer bail on 17 August, the newspaper said.

DizzyLizzy

24-07-2006, 08:22 AM

its probably a fan set him up
I dunno, it could be right?

MarkWaldorf

24-07-2006, 08:24 AM

I dont know but wasn't this reported a few weeks back?

andybigbro

24-07-2006, 08:26 AM

he wouldnt of raped them

the stupid sl*t will be trying to get money

nikkiisgreat

24-07-2006, 08:28 AM

just read that sezer was arrested over a alleged rape do u think he did it

Foebane100

24-07-2006, 09:52 AM

At first I thought it was the same charge, it sounded so similar.

Tommy

24-07-2006, 09:57 AM

I think it's a con, someone's set him up.

Slezer

24-07-2006, 10:07 AM

Yeah if somebody had been rightly accused of rape allegation before would they really do it again after coming out of the BB house when their face is famous and they had a reputation to be a bit of a ladies man on the show?

Silly sluts tryna make money

SiMoN!

24-07-2006, 10:09 AM

we dont no if he did it or not

but i dont think he did

krissybabe06

24-07-2006, 10:21 AM

i think he's a womaniser and wudnt go that far tho

kittykat321

24-07-2006, 11:17 AM

the girl is a well known page 3 model so is no doubt earning alot more than sezar does, so isnt doin it for the money or to get in the paper as shes in it everyday anyway..
and they go to a hotel as sezar stays with his mum, dt thk shed like sezar bringing home girls every other night :spin2:

he always seemed a sleaze ball in the house, so i wldnt be surprised if it was true..
the girl didnt go to the sun the police realesed a statement i think :colour:

albie

24-07-2006, 11:38 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

You just didn't believe me. Did you.

2 allegations? Do you really think she'd try to become famous through this?

Nope. He's a rapist. Plain and simple. Get used to it.

You see, what happens is that he decides to use the wrong hole, she says no. He says yes.

I can't believe you ever thought him innocent.

Blinkers.

albie

24-07-2006, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Edwin
read it already.

It seems that this woman thought it was more important to go to the sun than it was to go to the police.

Read it again. She went to the police within hours.

LittleMissC

24-07-2006, 11:53 AM

The fact is, this girl clearly wants the money. I agree with everything Edwin and Jamie said.

albie

24-07-2006, 12:00 PM

How is it clear? You are just making things up now.

Very disappointing, but expected.

Ah, this is the best day of my life. I bet you feel so annoyed by this. But keep on hiding that fact. Although very few people will be fooled by it.

And you know it.

Craiggy

24-07-2006, 12:03 PM

Hmmm!

I;m not sure how to take this!

But

Wasn't their stories of alleged Rape before he went in?

I think it may be true!!

albie

24-07-2006, 12:06 PM

Yes, Craiggy. He wasn't cleard on the last one, they just had to drop it for lack of evidence. The most common outcome of such date rapes.

Now he's done it again and people here are blindly sideing with Sezer.

Shows you how madness can set in with shows like BB.

Edwin

24-07-2006, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by albie
How is it clear? You are just making things up now.

Very disappointing, but expected.

Ah, this is the best day of my life. I bet you feel so annoyed by this. But keep on hiding that fact. Although very few people will be fooled by it.

And you know it.

So you're happy because someone has got raped?

Foebane100

24-07-2006, 01:20 PM

As usual Edwin you are reading far more in to what was said than really was. It is clear he didn't say that, just he is not surprised it has happened again. It seems as if you are here to troll for an argument.

krissybabe06

24-07-2006, 01:20 PM

i think that this woman already has a lot of money if shes a glamour model so why lie? but i do think sezars a womaniser and nobody really knows his true colours to be honest. he got lucky to get on bb.. it doesnt necessarily mean he isnt capable of rape.. but i dont think he would.

Edwin

24-07-2006, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Foebane100
As usual Edwin you are reading far more in to what was said than really was. It is clear he didn't say that, just he is not surprised it has happened again. It seems as if you are here to troll for an argument.

"This is the best day of my life" sums it up quite well. "I'm happy" is a of an understatement if you ask me.

Foebane100

24-07-2006, 01:25 PM

I don't think anyone would say they are happy someone got raped, he is obviously refering to something else..

Lauren

24-07-2006, 01:30 PM

Well if she's got enough money and she's in the papers anyway - why would she lie about it?
Any rape allegation has to be taken seriously, even if most people think it's fake. If she went to the police within hours they can do tests and see if they had intercourse. Then it's basically her word of consent against his.

Sharj

24-07-2006, 01:35 PM

The girl didn't go to 'The Sun' did she? They found out themselves plus she only told the police and is worried people will find out who she is....so why would she go the the sun?

I'm not suprised one bit! I bet it's true has Sezer was a complete womanising perv! Oh and he also tried to rape the girls Shereen from the girlband 'Mrs. Robinson' before he went in the house.

DOG

24-07-2006, 03:14 PM

I think I know who the model is (it has been posted on the net already) and if it is her then I believe it. She wouldn’t do it for the attention because she is one of the most famous models in the game and one of the richest ones too.

If he is guilty then I really hope he goes down for it and it destroys his life. :mad:

P.S. I will not post her name here or PM it to anyone.

DOG

DizzyLizzy

24-07-2006, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by Foebane100
I don't think anyone would say they are happy someone got raped, he is obviously refering to something else..

I agree I dont think thats what albie meant

GlitterEyes

24-07-2006, 03:17 PM

Plenty of speculation but its unfair to say he has or hasnt done it until anything is proven. We shall just have to watch this space and see what happens.

DizzyLizzy

24-07-2006, 03:22 PM

was it a drug rape

LittleMissC

24-07-2006, 03:31 PM

This is serious *******- what some people will do for money, it almost makes me laugh. It's *******! (Sorry if that's a bit repetitive!) Seriously, though, is she accusing him of date rape or what? Did she really think they were going back to the hotel for coffee? She is deluded, insecure.. whatever you call it. She wants money, and she is clearly desperate for self-assurence. No one in their right mind will believe this, surely?
Unless they're on the same level as her.
Which makes me question the police force these days...

GlitterEyes

24-07-2006, 03:34 PM

We do NOT know if it is true or false so we cannot comment. We only know Sezar because of a tv show and we do not know anything more about it so saying it is crap or true we cannot be certain. I don't think it was drug rape as the reports haven't mentioned anything on it.

Sharj

24-07-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Flame
This is serious *******- what some people will do for money, it almost makes me laugh. It's *******! (Sorry if that's a bit repetitive!) Seriously, though, is she accusing him of date rape or what? Did she really think they were going back to the hotel for coffee? She is deluded, insecure.. whatever you call it. She wants money, and she is clearly desperate for self-assurence. No one in their right mind will believe this, surely?
Unless they're on the same level as her.
Which makes me question the police force these days...

WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! Sezer fan getting all defensive!!! But what if this was true??? and im pretty certain it is!! I mean if she was gonna jsut accuse someone of rape surley it would be a major celeb not a hated bb hosuemate!

DizzyLizzy

24-07-2006, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by Sharj
Originally posted by Flame
This is serious *******- what some people will do for money, it almost makes me laugh. It's *******! (Sorry if that's a bit repetitive!) Seriously, though, is she accusing him of date rape or what? Did she really think they were going back to the hotel for coffee? She is deluded, insecure.. whatever you call it. She wants money, and she is clearly desperate for self-assurence. No one in their right mind will believe this, surely?
Unless they're on the same level as her.
Which makes me question the police force these days...

WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! Sezer fan getting all defensive!!! But what if this was true??? and I'm pretty certain it is!! I mean if she was going to jsut accuse someone of rape surley it would be a major celeb not a hated bb hosuemate!

This is a serious allegation and if it is true none of us have a right to imply whether it happened or not right? It would be nmore respectful to sezer and the girl involved

GlitterEyes

24-07-2006, 03:37 PM

Plus if we talk to much about it is true etc the thread will end up being closed. Just stick to the facts the cops called Sezar in and arrested him and he was realised on bail....THAT is all we know for certain. Not much more can be said til we find out if the case gets dropped or we read more stories.

DizzyLizzy

24-07-2006, 03:41 PM

I agree:thumbs:

Mike

24-07-2006, 03:43 PM

Spot on there GE and thats exactly why i don't even bother speculating, far too many people think they know the truth when infact their far from it, until he is actually proved guilty then there is not much anyone can say really.

unable2register

24-07-2006, 05:23 PM

The law on rape is clear, if the unwilling party says 'no' and intercourse goes ahead without that persons consent then it is classified as rape.
They could have gone to the hotel and the female may have been willing to partake in kissing and cuddling etcetera, but drew the line short of penetration and the Sleazer went ahead anyway, then it is rape.
They could have had sexual intercourse any number of times, both willing partners, but when the female says "No" and sex is forced upon her, it is still rape, harder to prove, but still rape.

There is no point in Sleazer's fans saying "She is a publicity hunting gold-digger and I don't believe anything happened", there is no point in Sleazer haters saying "I think he did it because he has been accused before and openly calls himself Sleazer" because only two people know the truth, and until the case goes to court no-one else will know what really happened.

rex3

24-07-2006, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by jamie2cool
What some girls would do to get fame and money :rolleyes:

probably

kittykat321

24-07-2006, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by rex3
Originally posted by jamie2cool
What some girls would do to get fame and money :rolleyes:

probably
the girl is alot more famous than sezar,so thers noway she wld be usig him to get famous ,please, do you lot actually think sezar is a celeb!!!! :puzzled: why is the girl to blame here,ur all saying shes using sezar, hes more likely to be using her to get more ''famous'' ,, why couldnt it be sezar being a slime and wanting his ugly mug spread over the tabloids, good or bad stuff, hes that much of a wanabe i wldnt put it past him, any chance to get in the sun newspaper.... :hello:

bonnie43uk

24-07-2006, 06:34 PM

Yeah, i reckon he did it .. i can spot a rapist a mile off. .. and hes' one.
Mind you, Micheal and Glyn also look like serial rapists.

unable2register

24-07-2006, 06:40 PM

Sleazer and Mikey are going to be some team when they get together, Mikey can go around groping womens butts' and the ones that don't like it can get raped by Sleazer.

THIS POST HAS BEEN MADE IN JEST!!!!!

Lauren

24-07-2006, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by bonnie43uk
Mind you, Micheal and Glyn also look like serial rapists.

LOL, are you actually being serious or just jesting?? :laugh:

EmilyJ

24-07-2006, 06:45 PM

He looked pretty wasted in the papers today. If that photo was taken 2 hours beforehand then I wouldn't have liked to see what he looked like when the alleged offence took place.

bonnie43uk

24-07-2006, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by Blanket&Crib
Originally posted by bonnie43uk
Mind you, Micheal and Glyn also look like serial rapists.

LOL, are you actually being serious or just jesting?? :laugh:

Yes.. i've seen mugshots of them on Crimewatch.

Dont have nightmares!

Lauren

24-07-2006, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by bonnie43uk
Yes.. i've seen mugshots of them on Crimewatch.

Ee and all along we thought it was Shahbaz who was the nutcase! :tongue: And now it comes out that the HM's should be wary of Sing-a-long Glyn and Queen Michael!

Smeggypants

24-07-2006, 06:52 PM

more media BS :nono: :nono:

James

24-07-2006, 06:53 PM

Don't know whether to lock this thread or not...

But a lot of people seem to be sure of the facts of the case already.

You wonder how there could be a fair and unpredujiced trial when so many people have already formed their opinion based on watching someone on a TV show. And also already knowing about the previous allegation - which will colour opinions also.

Lauren

24-07-2006, 06:54 PM

Is there ever really such thing as a fair un-biased trial, to be honest?
Every trial is tainted by even the faintest of opinions. And the saying "Innocent until proven guilty" is so much less true these days :bored:

PS. I like your avatar James

albie

25-07-2006, 11:19 AM

Of course I don't think a woman being raped is funny. I hate rapists. I was happy because this lends credence to my belief that he is a rapist. I was laughing at all the Sezer fans who have defended him. And continue to defend him.

Now they have to rethink.

If they don't develop even a shred of doubt over his innocence now then that is an evil amount of stubborness. It's the old messageboard argument thing. It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong so long as you win the argument.

We're all guilty of it.

Edwin

25-07-2006, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by albie
Of course I don't think a woman being raped is funny. I hate rapists. I was happy because this lends credence to my belief that he is a rapist. I was laughing at all the Sezer fans who have defended him. And continue to defend him.

Now they have to rethink.

If they don't develop even a shred of doubt over his innocence now then that is an evil amount of stubborness. It's the old messageboard argument thing. It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong so long as you win the argument.

We're all guilty of it.

I'm by no means a sezer fan, and many people in this thread aren't either. Do you hear them accusing him of being a rapist?

There is something in this country called democracy, we're not in in a country where they'd hang draw and quarter Sezer. Whether you like Sezer or not, show us that you're a grown up, not a petty boy who wants his fans to become heroes and his enemies to be sliced into bits accidently, and use the phrase "innocent until proven guilty" Would you like it if someone accused you of being a rapist and people would throw stuff at you in the streets? When they don't know the truth for sure?

hass

25-07-2006, 06:48 PM

he was probably drunk, hes pulled her, took her back to some hotel for some nookie and shes cried rape because hes just been in bb, knowing full well that she will get publicity for it!

dont believe everything you read in the papers or online!

albie

26-07-2006, 11:36 AM

Edwin- I'm not a judge. I'm just another poxy BB forum nobody. If I ever became a judge I would of course let the evidence speak for itself.

BUt come on. Two allegations of rape?

Would you let him baby sit your kids? would you leave him alone with your girlfriend?

Of course not. Hence you think he's guilty too. I don't believe in innocent until proven guilty. And the law doesn't work that way either.

As for Hass. Well, who would want publicity like this? Famous for being raped? Come on.

Now, let's all drop it until we find out what is going on.

Edwin

26-07-2006, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by albie
Edwin- I'm not a judge. I'm just another poxy BB forum nobody. If I ever became a judge I would of course let the evidence speak for itself.

BUt come on. Two allegations of rape?

Would you let him baby sit your kids? would you leave him alone with your girlfriend?

wouldn't feel comfortable. But some of the things you have said is just way off.

Originally posted by albie
Of course not. Hence you think he's guilty too. I don't believe in innocent until proven guilty. And the law doesn't work that way either.

It does.

Originally posted by albie
As for Hass. Well, who would want publicity like this? Famous for being raped? Come on.

Now, let's all drop it until we find out what is going on.

Well, you get people who tell the police that they're murderers when they aren't, what makes you think that someone wouldn't do this?

DizzyLizzy

26-07-2006, 12:02 PM

I think this is a really sensitive subject....maybe we shouldnt comment until we know the full story
after all the Sun is such a load of rubbish

albie

27-07-2006, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by Edwin
Originally posted by albie
Edwin- I'm not a judge. I'm just another poxy BB forum nobody. If I ever became a judge I would of course let the evidence speak for itself.

BUt come on. Two allegations of rape?

Would you let him baby sit your kids? would you leave him alone with your girlfriend?

wouldn't feel comfortable. But some of the things you have said is just way off.

Originally posted by albie
Of course not. Hence you think he's guilty too. I don't believe in innocent until proven guilty. And the law doesn't work that way either.

It does.

Originally posted by albie
As for Hass. Well, who would want publicity like this? Famous for being raped? Come on.

Now, let's all drop it until we find out what is going on.

Well, you get people who tell the police that they're murderers when they aren't, what makes you think that someone wouldn't do this?

What is 'way off'?

And you are telling me that Sezer has just been unlucky enough to meet and date TWO mad girls? Both he took to a hotel? Ever heard the term Modus Operandi? These people follow a pattern.

And we do lock up alledged criminals.Handcuff them. Not all of them get bail. And none of them are allowed to leave the country. Doesn't sound like treating someone as innocent to me.

Do you believe those lads killed Steven Lawrence? Did you believe it as soon as you saw them?

I bet you did.

I bet you still believed they were guilty when they were found to be innocent in a court of law.

Sidrat2006

27-07-2006, 10:11 AM

Our reporting laws are so much better than those in America, where media coverage is to all intents and purposes unrestricted.

How is a jury pool selected? Will this case ever get to a jury? Will that jury decide on the evidence presented at the trial?

Should trials be reduced to laywer tactics and presentation? As for the bail issue it does seem to work against the ethos of "Innocent until proven guilty", I believe bail is rejected if their is sufficient reason to suggest the person is a flight risk or danger to himself, other people or witnesses. I'm not a lawyer so I could be wrong, that does sound adequate.

lacey_gracey

31-07-2006, 01:28 PM

i dont think sezer is that stupid. people do this sort of thing all the time. they over exaggerate to get money like footballers. they can get a massage somewhere and then somehow it turns out that they went to a brothel i dont think it is true because if the allegations from the last time were true then they wouldnt have let him in the house in the first place

and also wouldnt he have shagged imogen? rather than raping some page 3 model?

devilsadvocate

31-07-2006, 06:17 PM

two questions.......is there smoke without fire?(ex-bb house mates have one -night stands all the time because of there so-called fame but sezer is the only one to be alleged of raping some-one......twice!!!!) and is the truth stranger than fiction????.........(alot of people like sezer and are a bit too quick to dismiss this story as some loose woman trying to make money,the real question is if he is guilty,how many other women are there who were too scared/embarrassed to come forward and report it as most of rapes never get reported).

a few weeks ago i read a story in a reputable london newspaper about a reporter who was set-up to go on a date with sezer,she got a bit tipsy and within a few hours of meeting this woman he was stroking her leg and telling her that if he did'nt have a party to go to he would take her to a hotel and "sleep with her" ..........it seem as if sezer is his own worst enemy!!!

Ruth

02-08-2006, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I don't know why he asked her back anyway considering he was meant to be waiting for Imogen and her going back without thinking he just wants to share a coffee is odd lol. If she is invited to a hotel then it surely wont just be for coffee.

He's probably given up on Imogen after seeing her with Mikey. Besides which I think he only said that he would wait for Imogen, because he thought it would look bad if he said that he just tried it on with Imogen to enhance his chances of staying in the house, which I think is nearer the truth (obviously I can't read Sezer's mind, but all the housemates are so publicity hungry this year that I think pretty much anything they do is just to get people talking about them and keep them in the house - obviously it backfired in Sezer's case).

Ruth

02-08-2006, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by devilsadvocate
two questions.......is there smoke without fire?(ex-bb house mates have one -night stands all the time because of there so-called fame but sezer is the only one to be alleged of raping some-one......twice!!!!)

Well it might be that Sezer is an easy target after already having been previously accused of rape, which might be why that woman said that. She could be telling the truth, but why sell your story to a newspaper? Perhaps money was a motivation for her? And let's not forget, there was no evidence to support the first woman's allegation, and there was evidence that she had been harassing him and pestering him, contrary to what she had said.
Originally posted by devilsadvocate
and is the truth stranger than fiction????.........(alot of people like sezer and are a bit too quick to dismiss this story as some loose woman trying to make money,the real question is if he is guilty,how many other women are there who were too scared/embarrassed to come forward and report it as most of rapes never get reported).

Not an issue for me - I didn't like Sezer at all! However, the law in this country is still innocent until proven guilty, and I'm not prepared to hang someone out to dry based on a story sold to tabloid trash. The papers love a witch-hunt, and as I said before, Sezer is an easy target, due to the previous allegation. And let's face it, there is every possibility that it is a case of "loose women trying to make money."
Originally posted by devilsadvocate
a few weeks ago i read a story in a reputable london newspaper about a reporter who was set-up to go on a date with sezer,she got a bit tipsy and within a few hours of meeting this woman he was stroking her leg and telling her that if he did'nt have a party to go to he would take her to a hotel and "sleep with her" ..........it seem as if sezer is his own worst enemy!!!

What Sezer was doing on that occasion was no different to what loads of men and women do every weekend. Did it say that she tried to resist him and he tried to overpower her? Obviously not. And can I ask - what do you mean by a reporter who was set up to go on a date with him? You mean it was a set up to try and catch Sezer out? Because if that is the case, then this newspaper can hardly be reputable.

Nowhere

02-08-2006, 08:22 AM

well said Ruth ! :thumbs:

Deep2

02-08-2006, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by kittykat321
the girl is a well known page 3 model so is no doubt earning alot more than sezar does, so isnt doin it for the money or to get in the paper as shes in it everyday anyway..
and they go to a hotel as sezar stays with his mum, dt thk shed like sezar bringing home girls every other night :spin2:

he always seemed a sleaze ball in the house, so i wldnt be surprised if it was true..
the girl didnt go to the sun the police realesed a statement i think :colour:

So being a sleaze ball and the fact it is a richer page 3 girl makes Sezer a rapist?