Alcoholism the dangers.

[Kizzy]

Watched this a couple of weeks ago, it is very upsetting. Just shows how dangerous alcohol is.

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[InOne]

So you're still on the wagon then?

[Kizzy]

I am joe, care to join me? this is one bandwagon I would love to see you jump on fella.

[InOne]

No you wouldn't LOL you love winding me up

[Omah]

I am joe, care to join me? this is one bandwagon I would love to see you jump on fella.

I watched the start - I'll catch the rest later ..... :thumbs:

[Kizzy]

I don't wind anyone up joe.

[InOne]

You seem to like arguing with me, we even both got banned for a week cos of it

[Kizzy]

I'm not discussing that joe, are you interested in this thread or not?

[AnnieK]

Have you not had a drink at all Kizzy?

[Marcus.]

well to you kizzy
i take my hat of to you

[InOne]

Not really, I will post an Oliver Reed quote

"I don't have a drink problem. But if that was the case and doctors told me I had to stop I'd like to think I would be brave enough to drink myself into the grave"

x

[Kizzy]

Not really, I will post an Oliver Reed quote

"I don't have a drink problem. But if that was the case and doctors told me I had to stop I'd like to think I would be brave enough to drink myself into the grave"

x

Well they did...and he did. Being dead is not clever joe.

[InOne]

Well they did...and he did. Being dead is not clever joe.

Yep, he died in a pub whilst filming Gladatior. He is a legend.

[InOne]

If you want a good film about drinking Leaving Las Vegas is probably the most depressing film I've ever seen

[Kizzy]

Have you not had a drink at all Kizzy?

No it was the best decision I ever made, and lately friends or family of friends seem to be really struggling, it's heartbreaking to see folk who were so happy and full of life reduced to nothing.

[Josy]

I can't watch the vid atm but have been hoping more people would realise the negative effects for years, it's never gonna fully happen though most people especially teenagers class drinking alcohol as something cool for them to be doing with mates at the weekends and think nothing at all about the long term dangers and effects it could have if it escalates out of thier control.

I'm not one to judge others if they like to have a drink though and I think drinking in moderation is fine but some just don't know when to stop.

Please don't take this as being rude Kizzy as I'm genuinely interested but did you only become aware about the negative effects of alcohol once you stopped drinking?

[GypsyGoth]

I just looked at the first 40 seconds of that vid, I don't think I could watch it all. He seems to be an obsessive compulsive and an alco, but I hardly watched any so I don't know.

Sadly I think people doing damage to themselves through alcohol is socially accepted. Also people my age consume so much of it at weekends that they make themselves sick, their body has more sense than they do, their body realises that it has ingested dangerous levels of the poison so it makes them throw up.

It reminds me in a way it's like the people from the capital in the hunger games books, the ones who eat soo much and then puke it all up so they can eat more.

I think if alcohol was only discovered today, it would be made illegal or far more regulated, at the very least it would be treated with the same respect with give to other harmful poisons.

One of the tricks with alcohol is that one drink makes someone feel good, so logically they think that another will make them feel twice as good, but it doesn't work like that.

And then there is the alcoholic, the person who has an addictive personality who latches onto alcohol, or as they would have you believe alcohol latches onto them. Actually I think I'll stop, this post is turning into a bit of a rant :laugh:

[GypsyGoth]

I can't watch the vid atm but have been hoping more people would realise the negative effects for years, it's never gonna fully happen though most people especially teenagers class drinking alcohol as something cool for them to be doing with mates at the weekends and think nothing at all about the long term dangers and effects it could have if it escalates out of thier control.


Maybe it would be good if it you had to wait until you were 21 before you could drink, like in the states. I think people could make better choices for themselves then.

[arista]

No you wouldn't LOL you love winding me up


No
not every thread is about You.

[Josy]

Maybe it would be good if it you had to wait until you were 21 before you could drink, like in the states. I think people could make better choices for themselves then.

I think that was suggested a few years back wasnt it? but I'm not sure it would work theres always someone willing to purchase it for underagers.

[InOne]

No
not every thread is about You.

You're never getting into Kizzy arista so give up being the hero

[Ninastar]

My generation is ****ed. They are too stubborn to care and too stupid to do anything about it.

Please note: I do not in any way mean every single teenager in the uk, I mean a majority of them.

[GypsyGoth]

I think that was suggested a few years back wasnt it? but I'm not sure it would work theres always someone willing to purchase it for underagers.

True, I've seen kids who didn't even look like teenagers asking for people to buy them drink. Maybe it's the parents who have to change or at least help their kids make better informed choices.

[MTVN]

I think raising the drinking age to 21 would be a terrible idea, by the time you're 18 you're legally an adult, can drive, be working full time, have left home, get married, vote, serve in the army etc. etc. be a bit silly if you can do all that but still have to wait 3 years to be considered trustworthy to buy a pint in your local pub

[Kizzy]

I can't watch the vid atm but have been hoping more people would realise the negative effects for years, it's never gonna fully happen though most people especially teenagers class drinking alcohol as something cool for them to be doing with mates at the weekends and think nothing at all about the long term dangers and effects it could have if it escalates out of thier control.

I'm not one to judge others if they like to have a drink though and I think drinking in moderation is fine but some just don't know when to stop.

Please don't take this as being rude Kizzy as I'm genuinely interested but did you only become aware about the negative effects of alcohol once you stopped drinking?

That's it I didn't know or care about the dangers, but recently alcohol seems to be everywhere in huge quantities and not woodpecker or fosters, vodka and other spirits that untill recently were pocket money prices.
12 years ago I worked in a pub, we sold wine by the 125ml or 175ml glass... now it's sold by the bottle everywhere.
Over the last 10yrs my consumption increased too, but it is so socially acceptable...
It became harder to function following drinking too, and I was even factoring it into my weekly shopping budget.
People around me were finding it harder and harder to cope, it stopped being the fun thing it had been as nobody I knew seemed to enjoy it anymore.
Like they say hindsight is a wonderful thing.
I think more people have a problem with alcohol and don't even realise as they are going to work/uni and functioning reasonably normally, yet managing to polish of a bottle of wine or a few beers everyday.
I quit and now it's like being on the other side of the mirror, you see things that others miss.

[Kizzy]

I just looked at the first 40 seconds of that vid, I don't think I could watch it all. He seems to be an obsessive compulsive and an alco, but I hardly watched any so I don't know.

Sadly I think people doing damage to themselves through alcohol is socially accepted. Also people my age consume so much of it at weekends that they make themselves sick, their body has more sense than they do, their body realises that it has ingested dangerous levels of the poison so it makes them throw up.

It reminds me in a way it's like the people from the capital in the hunger games books, the ones who eat soo much and then puke it all up so they can eat more.

I think if alcohol was only discovered today, it would be made illegal or far more regulated, at the very least it would be treated with the same respect with give to other harmful poisons.

One of the tricks with alcohol is that one drink makes someone feel good, so logically they think that another will make them feel twice as good, but it doesn't work like that.

And then there is the alcoholic, the person who has an addictive personality who latches onto alcohol, or as they would have you believe alcohol latches onto them. Actually I think I'll stop, this post is turning into a bit of a rant :laugh:

Such a wise head on young shoulders :love:

[InOne]

People take drinking far too seriously I think.

[Kizzy]

People take drinking far too seriously I think.

Shame you're not one of them.

[GypsyGoth]

Such a wise head on young shoulders :love:

:love:

The bit about the 2nd drink not making a person feel as good as the first one did, I got that from a documentary.

[Jake.]

Yes, drinking can cause death. So can crossing the road. I drink in moderation, have a few now and again, I'm not harming anybody nor myself, if you let yourself become consumed then thats different.

[InOne]

Shame you're not one of them.

You don't know anything about my life and what experiences I've had with alcohol. I have had to deal with addiction in the family for years. And I still do deal with it, maybe in my own way. It might not be the best but I always stop.

[GypsyGoth]

My generation is ****ed. They are too stubborn to care and too stupid to do anything about it.

Please note: I do not in any way mean every single teenager in the uk, I mean a majority of them.

I agree and it's scary to think that binge drinking is accepted as a norm.

I think raising the drinking age to 21 would be a terrible idea, by the time you're 18 you're legally an adult, can drive, be working full time, have left home, get married, vote, serve in the army etc. etc. be a bit silly if you can do all that but still have to wait 3 years to be considered trustworthy to buy a pint in your local pub

:eureka:

Raise all those things to 21 as well :D

[Kizzy]

Yes, drinking can cause death. So can crossing the road. I drink in moderation, have a few now and again, I'm not harming anybody nor myself, if you let yourself become consumed then thats different.

Never met anyone addicted to crossing roads, have you?

[Jake.]

That isn't the point I was trying to make. Abusing alcohol, fair enough it's a dangerous thing. But drinking in moderation isn't going to hurt you or anyone else.

[Shaun]

This is a thread about alcoholism, not casual drinking Jake :p

I've always been wary of drinking too much because my father was an alcoholic and it made him act erratic, and ultimately led to my parents' separation. I do occasionally have a glass of wine or cider if I'm having a night in, but that's really it. Obviously for parties and nights out I kind-of let my hair down, and drink a lot, but I only really go out maybe once or twice a month at most. I've experienced enough drama (losing my tooth, seeing a friend self-harm) when drunk to know better :p

[Jake.]

I know :p I was just on about moderation, and how if you keep it moderated alcoholism can be prevented

[Kizzy]

I know :p I was just on about moderation, and how if you keep it moderated alcoholism can be prevented

Well thanks for stating the obvious jake much appreciated. :)

[Smithy]

have been hoping more people would realise the negative effects for years, it's never gonna fully happen though most people especially teenagers class drinking alcohol as something cool for them to be doing with mates at the weekends and think nothing at all about the long term dangers and effects it could have if it escalates out of thier control.

I'm not one to judge others if they like to have a drink though and I think drinking in moderation is fine but some just don't know when to stop.


Pretty much this (except i kinda judge when people do it every night)

[MTVN]

:eureka:

Raise all those things to 21 as well :D

:joker: hadn't thought of that one

[Lee.]

Working in a pub and having an alcoholic father, I know only too well the dangers of alcohol and how easily it can get a hold of you.

I've stopped drinking unless I'm having a night out.. it was becoming too much of a habit to have a few glasses of vino with my dinner or whilst watching a film etc. Ivr cut out caffiene too and the only things I drink are water or green tea... feel bloody marvellous for it too :)

[Amy Jade]

I think drinking is fine for a younger person, I drink every thursday and saturday and so do my friends and we are relatively healthy. It's more for fun than getting drunk though.

I am technically below legal drinking age but I can drive and I pay full price for everything like anyone 18+. I admit I do sometimes go too far and get smashed but a lot of people much older do the same.

[Kizzy]

I think drinking is fine for a younger person, I drink every thursday and saturday and so do my friends and we are relatively healthy. It's more for fun than getting drunk though.

I am technically below legal drinking age but I can drive and I pay full price for everything like anyone 18+. I admit I do sometimes go too far and get smashed but a lot of people much older do the same.

What makes you say this? Binge drinking is very dangerous stupidhoe.

[Kizzy]

Working in a pub and having an alcoholic father, I know only too well the dangers of alcohol and how easily it can get a hold of you.

I've stopped drinking unless I'm having a night out.. it was becoming too much of a habit to have a few glasses of vino with my dinner or whilst watching a film etc. Ivr cut out caffiene too and the only things I drink are water or green tea... feel bloody marvellous for it too :)

That's a bad sign isn't it when your 'social' drinking becomes 'antisocial' drinking. Me too funnily enough I love green tea, had some cola the other day and felt high as a kite haha.

[Amy Jade]

What makes you say this? Binge drinking is very dangerous stupidhoe.

I just think so long as you're not going out every few days and getting so drunk you don't remember the night it's just fun.

I love going to a club, having a few drinks and a dance so why take away something I enjoy?

[Kizzy]

I just think so long as you're not going out every few days and getting so drunk you don't remember the night it's just fun.

I love going to a club, having a few drinks and a dance so why take away something I enjoy?

So, you're saying exactly what jake said this afternoon then?..again thanks.

[Amy Jade]

So, you're saying exactly what jake said this afternoon then?..again thanks.

I won't reply in future don't worry.

[Kizzy]

I won't reply in future don't worry.

:conf:

[waterhog]

BB is watching and listening to all.

[Kizzy]

What are your thoughts joe?... Can I have them in a poem please :)

[Kizzy]

Wish I had put this in serious debates now... any chance of it being moved, pretty please? :)
Nobody has commented on the ending, wonder if anyone got that far?

[Shasown]

Wish I had put this in serious debates now... any chance of it being moved, pretty please? :)
Nobody has commented on the ending, wonder if anyone got that far?


I got this far.

I would like to say thank you for sharing your experiences and concerns with us all.

Hopefully some people will take heed of your warnings. Maybe they wont. Thats just life eh?

Cheers

[Jake.]

Well thanks for stating the obvious jake much appreciated. :)

Oh stop being so bloody rude.

[Munchkins]

Jake take heed of the warnings x
*crawls away*

[Benjamin]

I used to love getting drunk at every opportunity, but found over the last few months that I'm getting really bored of doing so and really cannot tolerate the hangovers. It worries me that I may just associate having a good time with getting drunk, when in reality I know it's not.

Think I may try stay off the sauce for a few months, like I have done with the weed.

[Glenn.]

I can't drink like I used to.

I used to go out pretty much every weekend and get absolutely blotto. But in the last 2yrs I've been legless about 4-5 times and the hangovers are dire. Worse than what they used to be.

I probably have a drink maybe once a week. Not so I'm drunk, just a tipple.

[Kizzy]

Oh stop being so bloody rude.

:conf:

Does anyone believe that some are more suseptable to addiction? Russel Brand is trying to raise awareness of treating drug and alcohol addicts as you would anyone with mental health problems as their brains are wired differently.

[SharkAttack]

I used to love getting drunk at every opportunity, but found over the last few months that I'm getting really bored of doing so and really cannot tolerate the hangovers. It worries me that I may just associate having a good time with getting drunk, when in reality I know it's not.

Think I may try stay off the sauce for a few months, like I have done with the weed.

Good for you, Benjamin. ;) Think of it this way: when you hit your mid-30s, enjoy the drink too much, and eat those goofy-ass foods along with it, late at night into the mornings? Your body will look like a rather large upside-down light bulb, before they became all swirly. :joker:

[AnnieK]

:conf:

Does anyone believe that some are more suseptable to addiction? Russel Brand is trying to raise awareness of treating drug and alcohol addicts as you would anyone with mental health problems as their brains are wired differently.

I do believe some people have more "addictive personalities" and as such find it harder to do things in moderation.