Paris Brown: Kent Tweet row girl interviewed by police

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-22057246

A teenager who became Britain's first youth police and crime commissioner (PCC) last week is facing calls to resign after a series of offensive tweets.

Paris Brown, 17, was appointed to work alongside Kent's Independent PCC Ann Barnes representing young people across the county.

The Mail on Sunday reported she tweeted violent, racist and anti-gay comments from her Twitter account @vilulabelle.

The page has since been removed.

The newspaper also reported Paris boasted about her sex life, drug taking and drinking on the social networking website.

Keith Vaz, chairman of the Commons Home Affairs Select committee, said Miss Brown should be removed from the post immediately, the newspaper reported.

Nicholas Rogers, a Conservative councillor in Kent, tweeted: "Naive to throw a teen into robust political environment. Youth PCC nice bit of PR but ended in tears."

The appointment of a youth PCC was one of Ms Barnes's main manifesto pledges in the campaign ahead of her election as Kent's first PCC in November.

She said the youth PCC would receive £15,000 for the year, part-funded from her own £85,000 salary.

No doubt she'll become a Tory Councillor/MP when she grows up ..... :laugh2:

[Kizzy]

I think she would fit in well... :idc:

[Jake.]

She's a bit stupid then isn't she

[arista]

Yes change her for a better teen

[Nedusa]

She should be sacked for gross stupidity with immediate effect...!!!!

[Marc]

She really speaks for the youth doesn't she, stupid bint. She should be fired.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/06/article-2305118-1923C65C000005DC-29_634x765.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/06/article-2305118-1923C65C000005DC-104_634x594.jpg

[bbfan1991]

Nothing like the press hounding down their next victim, she is a bit naïve and stupid for tweeting that stuff but I am sure most people have done something not right when young.

This will probably mature her. I saw her on BBC Breakfast and she seemed nice enough, maybe they will accuse her of playing up for the cameras next. Although this whole Police Commissioner business is a waste of time and money IMHO!

[Jack_]

She's 17 ****ing years old and she is being vilified by the press...is there any depths that this God awful ****ing paper will not sink to

[Brother Leon]

What a load of rubbish. Those tweets mostly mean nothing lol

[bbfan1991]

She's 17 ****ing years old and she is being vilified by the press...is there any depths that this God awful ****ing paper will not sink to

I agree Jack. The Daily Fail are more obsessed with the TOWIE and Geordie Shore types of this world, which Paris probably has more talent on her little finger than all of that lot;).

[bbfan1991]

Kent youth PCC Paris Brown apologises over 'inappropriate' tweets

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/66792000/jpg/_66792749_paris.jpg

A teenager who became Britain's first youth police and crime commissioner (PCC) has apologised for her "inappropriate" comments on Twitter.

Paris Brown, 17, was appointed to work alongside Kent's Independent PCC Ann Barnes representing young people across the county last week.

Paris said she was "wildly exaggerating" in what could have been considered racist and anti-gay tweets.

Ms Barnes said Paris would "learn quickly from this".

The Mail on Sunday reported Paris boasted about her sex life, drug taking and drinking on her account @vilulabelle on the social networking website.

The Twitter page has since been removed.

Paris has apologised and told the BBC the comments, posted between the ages of 14 and 16, had been "misinterpreted".

"All teenagers make mistakes, all teenagers think at one point 'oh I'm annoyed, write something stupid'… it's an age thing," she said.

'Stupid' and 'immoral'

Paris said she thought she was "definitely up to the job".

"I don't think that a few stupid, immoral tweets which I admit can be taken horrifically offensively but were not meant at all to offend anyone," she said.

"I don't think they should shape my future and my career and how I'm going to represent young people."

In a statement, Paris said she was "not homophobic, racist or violent and am against the taking of drugs".

She will take up the post of youth PPC in July or August, after her apprenticeship.

Nicholas Rogers, a Conservative councillor in Kent, tweeted: "@AnnBarnesKPCC's plan to throw a teen into a vicious political environment was naïve.

"Sad, but Youth PCC should resign and post scrapped."

He tweeted Ms Barnes' youth PCC plan had "gone badly wrong, throwing her judgement into question and damaging a young persons's future".

In another tweet, he added: "Naive to throw a teen into robust political environment. Youth PCC nice bit of PR but ended in tears."

'She's not hiding'

Ms Barnes said of Paris's tweets: "They are awful, they are dreadful, there's no getting away from that. But Paris is learning very quickly and maturing into a very sensible young woman.

"She's not hiding behind what she's done. She's here after being plastered over the front of the Mail on Sunday in quite a vitriolic report.

"There aren't many people I know who would face the country's media and I take my hat of to her for doing it."

Ann Barnes - January 2013 Ann Barnes said she did not condone the content and language of the tweets
The PCC said she did not think she had made a mistake by appointing Paris, who went through a "proper recruitment process" and vetting by the force.

Earlier in a statement Ms Barnes said Paris would "learn quickly from this".

The appointment of a youth PCC was one of Ms Barnes's main manifesto pledges in the campaign ahead of her election as Kent's first PCC in November.

She said the youth PCC would receive £15,000 for the year, part-funded from her own £85,000 salary.

[Jack_]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/06/article-2305118-1923C65C000005DC-29_634x765.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/06/article-2305118-1923C65C000005DC-104_634x594.jpg

This is so disgusting I just...I can't

'On Drugs?' She likes a ****ing top, stop connoting things from that you awful ******s

'On Drink?' She's ****ing 17 years old I mean get a grip and some sense of reality

'On Sex?' It's none of your ****ing business for a national newspaper to publicly print those tweets, she is allowed to be sexually active you know

'On Gay Rights?' The term 'fagg*t' has most likely been used as a general insult and whilst that's not acceptable, stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill

**** me I hate this rag, this graphic is like all their moral panics rolled into one at the expense of a 17 year old girl. Disgusting

[reece(:]

I think she was only attention seeking anyway, the paper will do anything to gain a few more reads, shocking.

[Marc]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/06/article-2305118-1923C65C000005DC-29_634x765.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/06/article-2305118-1923C65C000005DC-104_634x594.jpg

How did anybody give her a job that involves being level headed and fair.. she's a chavvy moron

[arista]

How did anybody give her a job that involves being level headed and fair.. she's a chavvy moron



It was a kind of test

[arista]

She made the tweets a year before she got the Job
ITV1 London news showed her crying.

[Omah]

She really speaks for the youth doesn't she, stupid bint. She should be fired.

How did anybody give her a job that involves being level headed and fair.. she's a chavvy moron

It was a kind of test

Well, she patently failed :laugh2:

[arista]

Her Kent Boss (who is on 85K)
says she keeps her Job.

Are you happy Jack?

[Jordan.]

Saw her crying on the news. It made me laugh.

[Jack_]

Just when I thought this couldn't get any worse...the front page of the actual newspaper has printed a picture from her Twitter profile

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHMX_VFCQAAXcBu.png:large

How the **** is this acceptable? Acceptable for a national newspaper to print somebody's picture like that that they've taken from their Twitter without their permission? Acceptable for them to print it and publicly humiliate and vilify a 17 year old girl? How the **** can anybody justify that? How is that allowed to be printed?

I'm sorry but the Mail is abhorrent at the best of times but the last few weeks it has really stooped to a low that's just beyond disgusting, this, the Philpott front page and Richard Littlejohn's column that led to an innocent transgender woman taking her own life. Absolutely vile.

[Redway]

Excellent posts from Jack, as per usual.

She's only 17 years old and you'd be hard-pressed to find someone that age who doesn't enjoy drinking and all.

Publishing someone's tweets without permission is a violation of privacy and completely vile - however awful and inappropriate those tweets may be.

[Jack_]

This is just another case the Mail have used to pursue their endless class war in a truly repulsive fashion. Because this girl isn't middle class, middle-aged, pure, 'respectable' and abstinent and doesn't conform to their narrow world-view, she has to be subject to this paper's public ridiculing and humiliation until she's driven to the point of suicide.

I simply cannot fathom how a national newspaper can or is allowed to print this and single innocent people out and treat them with such contempt.

Masters of deflection.

[Omah]

Saw her crying on the news. It made me laugh.

Made me laugh, too ..... :laugh2:

[arista]

This is just another case the Mail have used to pursue their endless class war in a truly repulsive fashion. Because this girl isn't middle class, middle-aged, pure, 'respectable' and abstinent and doesn't conform to their narrow world-view, she has to be subject to this paper's public ridiculing and humiliation until she's driven to the point of suicide.

I simply cannot fathom how a national newspaper can or is allowed to print this and single innocent people out and treat them with such contempt.

Masters of deflection.


Its a Public Job.
I assume you Now want the lass to Keep her job?

[arista]

This is so disgusting I just...I can't

'On Drugs?' She likes a ****ing top, stop connoting things from that you awful ******s

'On Drink?' She's ****ing 17 years old I mean get a grip and some sense of reality

'On Sex?' It's none of your ****ing business for a national newspaper to publicly print those tweets, she is allowed to be sexually active you know

'On Gay Rights?' The term 'fagg*t' has most likely been used as a general insult and whilst that's not acceptable, stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill

**** me I hate this rag, this graphic is like all their moral panics rolled into one at the expense of a 17 year old girl. Disgusting



Yes Jack.
Nice of the D.Mail to do all those larger graphics
much better than Omah's BBC.


They really can Highlight


Feel The Force

[arista]

I think she would fit in well... :idc:

Yes Vicky from the TV News her Female Boss
is with you.

[Jack_]

Its a Public Job.
I assume you Now want the lass to Keep her job?

The job is the secondary issue here, my main problem is that a national newspaper is allowed to publicly ridicule, humiliate and vilify a 17 year old girl. That is not acceptable, it's appalling and I don't care how anyone tries to cut it, it cannot be justified.

[Nedusa]

These are normal tweets for a 17 yr old in todays world......aren't they ???

[MTVN]

A lot of people seem to have no comprehension that everything they post on twitter is in the public domain and can be read by any one and at any time. When you end up in a position in the public eye it becomes all the more important to realise that because it's part and parcel of the job and you are going to be scrutinised, don't take the job if you're not prepared for that. I get that the tweets aren't all that out of the ordinary for what a lot of young people might post but her holding this position of authority is. Not really for me to say whether she should lose her job but she has been a bit stupid

[Kizzy]

She has been a LOT stupid, this role needed someone with self respect, intelligence and a modicum of control, there are many 17yr olds for whom this is not a problem. To me they have the wrong person for this position.

[Redway]

A lot of people seem to have no comprehension that everything they post on twitter is in the public domain and can be read by any one and at any time. When you end up in a position in the public eye it becomes all the more important to realise that because it's part and parcel of the job and you are going to be scrutinised, don't take the job if you're not prepared for that. I get that the tweets aren't all that out of the ordinary for what a lot of young people might post but her holding this position of authority is. Not really for me to say whether she should lose her job but she has been a bit stupid

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but were those tweets not from quite a while back now? Or are they recent?

[Kizzy]

How far back can they be if she is talking of booze and sex?

[MTVN]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but were those tweets not from quite a while back now? Or are they recent?

I don't know the exact dates but between 14-16 I believe, so the more recent ones will only have been a few months ago

[Omah]

A lot of people seem to have no comprehension that everything they post on twitter is in the public domain and can be read by any one and at any time. When you end up in a position in the public eye it becomes all the more important to realise that because it's part and parcel of the job and you are going to be scrutinised, don't take the job if you're not prepared for that. I get that the tweets aren't all that out of the ordinary for what a lot of young people might post but her holding this position of authority is. Not really for me to say whether she should lose her job but she has been a bit stupid

Exactly ..... :thumbs:

..... and Ann Barnes is even more stupid to come up with a stupid idea ..... :pipe:

[Black Dagger]

She's young and foolish, and hopefully she'll grow up and realise she's done wrong.

I don't condone her tweets, they are disgusting, but she shouldn't be villified forever.

[Kizzy]

Does young always mean foolish though? I am sick of some making excuses for young people to act as thick as shiz.

[Redway]

How far back can they be if she is talking of booze and sex?
A lot far. Or do you really have no awareness of what the typical teenager is like?
I don't know the exact dates but between 14-16 I believe, so the more recent ones will only have been a few months ago

Well, I was under the impression that most of those posts had been made when she was 14 and 15, in which case I particularly didn't think Daily Mail publishing those tweets were appropriate, as she may well have matured by now.

If the recent ones are as you say, a few months ago, then I understand both sides a bit more, although I'd still maintain the belief that it's wrong to publish tweets like that and demonise a teenager.

[Livia]

She's 17 ****ing years old and she is being vilified by the press...is there any depths that this God awful ****ing paper will not sink to

You can't use her youth to excuse her ridiculousness, and in the next breath tell us how valid the opinions of young people are.

[lostalex]

She's a disgusting bigot. She has no place in public service. She has the right to spew whatever disgusting bigoted hate-feuled rants she wants, but she does NOT have the right to receive tax payer money to do it.

there are so many good spirited, enlightened, intelligent youths out there that DESERVE to be supported by the tax payer.

This ugly little racist pig is not one of them.

[Omah]

You can't use her youth to excuse her ridiculousness, and in the next breath tell us how valid the opinions of young people are.

Exactly ..... :thumbs:

[Kizzy]

A lot far. Or do you really have no awareness of what the typical teenager is like?


Well, I was under the impression that most of those posts had been made when she was 14 and 15, in which case I particularly didn't think Daily Mail publishing those tweets were appropriate, as she may well have matured by now.

If the recent ones are as you say, a few months ago, then I understand both sides a bit more, although I'd still maintain the belief that it's wrong to publish tweets like that and demonise a teenager.

Rubbish! of course I do.. I own two teenagers I know how they work.

[Redway]

Rubbish! of course I do.. I own two teenagers I know how they work.

Then what was the need for your post if you know fully well all the stuff about underage drinking, etc? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to justify her idiotic behaviour, but it's completely wrong to publish tweets without consent no matter what.

[Kizzy]

Then what was the need for your post if you know fully well all the stuff about underage drinking, etc? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to justify her idiotic behaviour, but it's completely wrong to publish tweets without consent no matter what.

Not all teens drink underage, don't judge everyone by your own standards.
If you are in a position of responsibility you have to take responsibility for all you do and all you say in real life and online.

[Nedusa]

On the subject of Press intrusion and invasion of privacy, i thought her tweets were to her followers, so why has a national newspaper decided it should publish private messages.

eh........was a crime being committed NO !! so why then ? could it be perhaps I know...lets have another sensational headline sell lots of newspapers and make more money....!!!

****ing Gutter Press..........!!!!!

[Redway]

Not all teens drink underage, don't judge everyone by your own standards.
If you are in a position of responsibility you have to take responsibility for all you do and all you say in real life and online.

I never said all teenagers drink underage, though, did I? You doubted that those tweets went far back because of the subject nature. I merely pointed out that lots of teenagers below 18 are into that sort of thing, not necessarily all of them. Don't put words into my mouth.

You indeed have to take responsibility for your actions in such circumstances but that doesn't justify violating someone's privacy and ruining her life. It's just another of the Daily Fail's sly antics.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-22070354

Two Kent MPs - Laura Sandys and Damian Collins - said Paris should step down.

Ms Sandys, the South Thanet Conservative MP, said on Twitter: "Paris Brown should step down as youth crime Tsar for Kent... Gimmicks always backfire."

'Intense scrutiny'

Mr Collins, the Conservative MP for Folkestone and Hythe, said he did not think the role should have been created in the first place, and called on Ms Barnes to admit that it had been "a mistake".

"I feel sorry for Paris Brown to be put in this position where there is such a high level of scrutiny about what she has said.

"She is going to be under constant pressure to explain what she meant and it's best that this young person should rebuild her life away from intense media scrutiny," Mr Collins said.

Just this once, I'll back the Tories ..... :pipe:

[Kizzy]

I never said all teenagers drink underage, though, did I? You doubted that those tweets went far back because of the subject nature. I merely pointed out that lots of teenagers below 18 are into that sort of thing, not necessarily all of them. Don't put words into my mouth.

You indeed have to take responsibility for your actions in such circumstances but that doesn't justify violating someone's privacy and ruining her life. It's just another of the Daily Fail's sly antics.

I didn't say you did, I have to say I feel the tories have been as two faced as ever in their call for her resignation.. Has boris and dave to resign for their bullingdon club antics in their youth then?
I missed this...''Paris has apologised and told the BBC the comments, posted between the ages of 14 and 16, had been "misinterpreted''
So it would seem that those comments were made well before her commencement in this role.
Why the word immoral is being banded about again, the word has been overused so much it's lost all meaning.

[Redway]

I didn't say you did, I have to say I feel the tories have been as two faced as ever in their call for her resignation.. Has boris and dave to resign for their bullingdon club antics in their youth then?
I missed this...''Paris has apologised and told the BBC the comments, posted between the ages of 14 and 16, had been "misinterpreted''
So it would seem that those comments were made well before her commencement in this role.
Why the word immoral is being banded about again, the word has been overused so much it's lost all meaning.

That's exactly my point.

[Omah]

I missed this...''Paris has apologised and told the BBC the comments, posted between the ages of 14 and 16, had been "misinterpreted''
So it would seem that those comments were made well before her commencement in this role.

Ms Brown was 16 until 4th April this year and is currently an apprentice at Swale Borough Council - she is due to begin the one-year PCC post in July or August.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-22070354

Comments posted on Twitter by Britain's first youth police and crime commissioner are being investigated for possible criminal offences.

Paris Brown, 17, posted what could have been considered racist and anti-gay tweets from the ages of 14 to 16.

She was appointed to the £15,000-a-year post last week by Kent PCC Ann Barnes, who said she would stand by her.

Kent Police said it was investigating the circumstances to determine whether any offences had been committed.

The force said it had received on Monday a number of complaints about statements posted on social media.

Off to jail in cuffs, student who tweeted abuse about heart failure footballer Fabrice Muamba

27 March 2012

A student who posted a series of racist comments on Twitter following footballer Fabrice Muamba’s cardiac arrest has begun a prison sentence of 56 days.

Liam Stacey, 21, caused widespread revulsion by reacting to Muamba’s mid-game collapse by writing: ‘LOL [laughing out loud], **** Muamba. He’s dead!!! #haha.’ He responded to criticism of that message with vile racist tweets.

The messages were forwarded to the police by several members of the social network, including former England striker Stan Collymore, himself a victim of abuse on Twitter.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2121003/Liam-Stacey-jail-tweeting-abuse-Fabrice-Muamba.html#ixzz2Pv1GA3Ve

That should have been a warning to Twitter abusers, including Ms Brown, aged 15 - what you say can be held against you, now or in the future..... :pipe:

[arista]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306335/Foul-mouthed-crime-tsar-quits-15-000-year-youth-commissioner-role-police-launch-investigation-Twitter-rant.html

She has given her Job up now


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/09/article-2306158-1929673A000005DC-791_634x585.jpg

[Nedusa]

Yes , she is going to cash in on her new found Celebrity status , going to do the rounds on the talk shows, game shows and rumour has it she is booked to appear on Big Brother...!!!

[Livia]

More proof that if you don't want your private thoughts to come back and bite you on the arse, don't post them up in a public arena. How could someone this stupid have been elevated to that particular post anyway?

[Nedusa]

Is Twitter in the public arena ? I thought it was a private messaging system between tweeters and followers ??

[lostalex]

She's 17 ****ing years old and she is being vilified by the press...is there any depths that this God awful ****ing paper will not sink to

sorry, I didn't know it's okay to be a hateful bigot as long as you're under 18. And she's not just a 17 y/o, she's receiving a PAYCHECK from the TAXPAYERS. and many of those tax payers are the minorities that she is hateful against.

[Livia]

Is Twitter in the public arena ? I thought it was a private messaging system between tweeters and followers ??

That depends whether your set your privacy profiles or not. I guess she didn't.

[Nedusa]

Its all a bit of a grey area........!!!!

[Jack_]

For the love of ****ing God, for the last time, her keeping/losing the job is the secondary issue here. My problem is with this paper thinking it is acceptable to plaster one of her Twitter photos on the front page of a national newspaper in a blatant attempt to mock her and make everyone go 'hahahaha look at the ugly bitch taking a photo in the mirror!', that is disgusting. What was wrong with a photo of her taken by the press that's being used everywhere else?

Yeah I'm not condoning the tweets but I do feel they may also have been taken out of context slightly. Using the term '********t', whilst not exactly acceptable, isn't always used as a direct gay slur...it can and is also used as a general insult. No, that doesn't make it right but there is the possibility here that the word was used in a general context and this paper have tried to make out she was being homophobic. There's nothing right about younger generations using these kind of words as insults but that isn't the fault of this girl - it's similar to people using 'gay' to describe something as bad...a lot of gay people use the same term, it's not right but does that make them homophobic?

I'm not going to say it again. My problem is that a national newspaper is trying to publicly humiliate and vilify a 17 year old girl until she breaks down. That cannot be justified. In fact what's happening here could have very damaging consequences to this girl. This is the same paper that inadvertently led a transgender woman to take her own life, and I don't think this paper will be satisfied until the same thing happens to this girl. Maybe then it'll have some ****ing decorum.

[Kizzy]

I had heard that whilst applying for positions social media were now checked to ascertain the suitability of applicants?
This was not the case here it seems, unless this poor young woman was set up for a fall?

[lostalex]

I had heard that whilst applying for positions social media were now checked to ascertain the suitability of applicants?
This was not the case here it seems, unless this poor young woman was set up for a fall?

poor young woman? give me a break. she was bragging about how she can't believe she's being paid for this, and she was right, how ****ing stupid are the people of Kent to be paying that repulsive bigot a paycheck. She's not just a repulsive bigot, she made a fool of every tax paying citizen of Kent.

[AnnieK]

I had heard that whilst applying for positions social media were now checked to ascertain the suitability of applicants?
This was not the case here it seems, unless this poor young woman was set up for a fall?

Not every employer checks these things but as we discussed in that last thread about social media, if its in the public domain it can come back and bite you as it is free for all to see.

[Jack_]

Owen Jones
‏@OwenJones84
Kudos to the Daily Mail! Drove a 17-year-old girl from her job and possibly ruined her future for behaving like a teenager! You showed her!

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/321633623075848192

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

A spot on hero as always.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22083032

The UK's first youth police and crime commissioner, Paris Brown, has resigned from her post following criticism of messages she posted on Twitter.

The 17-year-old, who was appointed last week, said she was "quitting in the interests of the young people of Kent".

In a statement, the teenager, from Sheerness, said: "I have made this decision after a great deal of thought and consultation with my family."

She added: "I accept that I have made comments on social networking sites which have offended many people. I am really sorry for any offence caused.

"I strongly reiterate that I am not racist or homophobic."

She said: "I have fallen into the trap of behaving with bravado on social networking sites. I hope this may stand as a learning experience for many other young people."


A harsh lesson for the young lady, but she appears to have learnt from it - let's hope others do ..... :pipe:

[Kizzy]

Not every employer checks these things but as we discussed in that last thread about social media, if its in the public domain it can come back and bite you as it is free for all to see.

Any position within the police has these checks as a rule... Are we to believe they were not checked, or just that we are bowing to media pressure?
The Mail are on a roll recently aren't they with the sway they have over the masses?

[lostalex]

Owen Jones
‏@OwenJones84
Kudos to the Daily Mail! Drove a 17-year-old girl from her job and possibly ruined her future for behaving like a teenager! You showed her!

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/321633623075848192

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

A spot on hero as always.

wait, behaving like a teenager, sems suspiciously like acting like a neo-nazi accoridng to Jack. so are all teenagers hateful racist gay-bashing bigots??? is that what you are saying Jack?

[AnnieK]

Any position within the police has these checks as a rule... Are we to believe they were not checked, or just that we are bowing to media pressure?
The Mail are on a roll recently aren't they with the sway they have over the masses?

According to this, it had not been checked.....I have no idea how reliable this is but just bringing it to the discussion:

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/times_guardian/news/2013/april/7/paris_brown_twitter.aspx

[Niamh.]

Ok, that's enough Jack and Alex. You're going off topic and getting insulting

[Jack_]

wait, behaving like a teenager, sems suspiciously like acting like a neo-nazi accoridng to Jack. so are all teenagers hateful racist gay-bashing bigots??? is that what you are saying Jack?

Neo-nazi :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

Christ al-****ing-mighty. Are you Paul Dacre?

No, not every teenager uses gay slurs as general insults but a fair few do and I should point out a lot of those tweets were posted when she was 14/15. Walk around a high school playground and you'll hear the same words being used in general contexts. That doesn't make it right but for Christ sake it doesn't make her or them a neo-nazi. It's a generational problem...most people grow up and grow out of it. Unless you're suggesting every person that is overhead saying 'that's so gay' or other gay-associated words being used as general insults should be arrested? I don't know about anyone else but I don't think that'd work.

Using those words isn't right but with no context people can't go throwing about accusations of being a neo-nazi or 'gay-bashers'. I mean ffs...

[Roy Mars III]

No reason to vilify her, though she should of course be fired.

[Livia]

Owen Jones
‏@OwenJones84
Kudos to the Daily Mail! Drove a 17-year-old girl from her job and possibly ruined her future for behaving like a teenager! You showed her!

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/321633623075848192

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A spot on hero as always.

She wasn't working on a checkout you know. She had a responsibility, but it turns out she's an idiotic bigot.

Maybe if she was just behaving like a teenager, it's evidence that teenagers are too young and too inexperienced to be given any kind of responsibility. Or maybe it's just her.

[Jack_]

She wasn't working on a checkout you know. She had a responsibility, but it turns out she's an idiotic bigot.

Maybe if she was just behaving like a teenager, it's evidence that teenagers are too young and too inexperienced to be given any kind of responsibility. Or maybe it's just her.

Yeah, and I really don't know how many times I have to say this now, because I thought I made it clear when I entered the thread the first time...my problem is with the Daily Mail attempting to humiliate a 17 year old girl. Whether she keeps the job or not is secondary to that issue IMO. People seem to be accepting this story at face value and not looking at other issues here...I don't see what is acceptable about a national newspaper publicly mocking a teenage girl? It's essentially bullying and for her to be treated like that, it could have very damaging psychological consequences and that isn't justifiable.

This issue could've been sorted with a lot less vilification from this paper, they're just using it to push their agenda and target another individual. That's sick.

I could go on about specific tweets but I'm too ill to do so now so I'll leave it until I feel better.

[arista]

For the love of ****ing God, for the last time, her keeping/losing the job is the secondary issue here. My problem is with this paper thinking it is acceptable to plaster one of her Twitter photos on the front page of a national newspaper in a blatant attempt to mock her and make everyone go 'hahahaha look at the ugly bitch taking a photo in the mirror!', that is disgusting. What was wrong with a photo of her taken by the press that's being used everywhere else?

Yeah I'm not condoning the tweets but I do feel they may also have been taken out of context slightly. Using the term '********t', whilst not exactly acceptable, isn't always used as a direct gay slur...it can and is also used as a general insult. No, that doesn't make it right but there is the possibility here that the word was used in a general context and this paper have tried to make out she was being homophobic. There's nothing right about younger generations using these kind of words as insults but that isn't the fault of this girl - it's similar to people using 'gay' to describe something as bad...a lot of gay people use the same term, it's not right but does that make them homophobic?

I'm not going to say it again. My problem is that a national newspaper is trying to publicly humiliate and vilify a 17 year old girl until she breaks down. That cannot be justified. In fact what's happening here could have very damaging consequences to this girl. This is the same paper that inadvertently led a transgender woman to take her own life, and I don't think this paper will be satisfied until the same thing happens to this girl. Maybe then it'll have some ****ing decorum.



Jack she was the Fool that put it out there
Once you Tweet its forever tracked.
So You are Wrong
Public Tweets - Full Rights to publish them.

[Redway]

Jack she was the Fool that put it out there
Once you Tweet its forever tracked.
So You are Wrong
Public Tweets - Full Rights to publish them.

Absolute nonsense.

It is not acceptable to invade a 17-year-old's privacy and publish tweets and pictures of her without permission. It's essentially bullying and whilst what she said was wrong, what full rights to the Daily Mail have to post them all across the nation? I believe she was between 14 and 16 when she made those posts anyway, and I think it's reasonable that she wouldn't go rummaging through her her status history, some of which started three years ago.

I'd go on all day but Jack's done a fine job of expanding on what I was going to say. I refer you to the rest of them.

[arista]

Absolute nonsense.

It is not acceptable to invade a 17-year-old's privacy and publish tweets and pictures of her without permission. It's essentially bullying and whilst what she said was wrong, what full rights to the Daily Mail have to post them all across the nation? I believe she was between 14 and 16 when she made those posts anyway, and I think it's reasonable that she wouldn't go rummaging through her her status history, some of which started three years ago.

I'd go on all day but Jack's done a fine job of expanding on what I was going to say. I refer you to the rest of them.


No They are Public Domain - not private.

[lostalex]

Twisting this bigot into some sort of victim is disgusting. get a grip. The only reason anyone is defending her is because of the fact that it's the right wing that called her out.

If this girl was a Tory, you'd be taking the exact opposite side.

It'[s disgusting how some people on the left will defend racist bigots just because they are on their same political side. As if bigotry is only wrong when it's the oppossite political party that does it, if it's someone from the same party, well it's just a misunderstanding, it's a witch hunt!

Think for yourselves for once. seriously.

[arista]

Police are now having to look into what she tweeted
after Public told them.

[Kizzy]

Absolute nonsense.

It is not acceptable to invade a 17-year-old's privacy and publish tweets and pictures of her without permission. It's essentially bullying and whilst what she said was wrong, what full rights to the Daily Mail have to post them all across the nation? I believe she was between 14 and 16 when she made those posts anyway, and I think it's reasonable that she wouldn't go rummaging through her her status history, some of which started three years ago.

I'd go on all day but Jack's done a fine job of expanding on what I was going to say. I refer you to the rest of them.

If you are associated with public services your online conduct is open to scrutiny.. It's a sad fact, if you are 17 or 67 that is the case.

[Kizzy]

Twisting this bigot into some sort of victim is disgusting. get a grip. The only reason anyone is defending her is because of the fact that it's the right wing that called her out.

If this girl was a Tory, you'd be taking the exact opposite side.

It'[s disgusting how some people on the left will defend racist bigots just because they are on their same political side. As if bigotry is only wrong when it's the oppossite political party that does it, if it's someone from the same party, well it's just a misunderstanding, it's a witch hunt!

Think for yourselves for once. seriously.

Agreed.

[Redway]

Twisting this bigot into some sort of victim is disgusting. get a grip. The only reason anyone is defending her is because of the fact that it's the right wing that called her out.

If this girl was a Tory, you'd be taking the exact opposite side.

It'[s disgusting how some people on the left will defend racist bigots just because they are on their same political side. As if bigotry is only wrong when it's the oppossite political party that does it, if it's someone from the same party, well it's just a misunderstanding, it's a witch hunt!

Think for yourselves for once. seriously.

If this girl was a Tory? What does politics have to do with any of this? :conf2:

I know what she said was wrong, and losing her job wouldn't be totally unreasonable. What I'm against is the public humiliation of her and the fact that the media would actually post pictures of her from her Twitter account, etc?

What she said was inexcusable, but so's Daily Mail's part in this.

[Omah]

If you are associated with public services your online conduct is open to scrutiny.. It's a sad fact, if you are 17 or 67 that is the case.

Ms Brown turned 17 only a WEEK ago - before that, obviously, she was 16, so the tweets may well have been from only a few weeks ago ..... :idc:

[Kizzy]

Ms Brown turned 17 only a WEEK ago - before that, obviously, she was 16, so the tweets may well have been from only a few weeks ago ..... :idc:

I'm well aware of this thankyou :idc:

[hijaxers]

She really speaks for the youth doesn't she, stupid bint. She should be fired.

Yes and any bird no matter what age -should ever been seen on tv with the cheapest matted hair extensions ever seen - who ever did that to her and charged money should be sacked immediately - whatever made the dumb bone appear on tv looking like it ! Way too stupid for the job in the first place

[Omah]

I'm well aware of this thankyou :idc:

Glad to hear it - it seemed that the impression was that she'd been 17 for a while and that the tweets were in her past ..... ;)

[Redway]

Glad to hear it - it seemed that the impression was that she'd been 17 for a while and that the tweets were in her past ..... ;)

How does that account for her posts aged 14 and 15?

[lostalex]

If this girl was a Tory? What does politics have to do with any of this? :conf2:

I know what she said was wrong, and losing her job wouldn't be totally unreasonable. What I'm against is the public humiliation of her and the fact that the media would actually post pictures of her from her Twitter account, etc?

What she said was inexcusable, but so's Daily Mail's part in this.

The Daily Mail didn't post private pictures of her, She posted the pictures HERSELF. They just re-printed them.

It's not like the Daily Mail hacked into her phone and stole personal pictures that she never put into the public sphere. She posted all of this stuff HERSELF and she was PROUD of it all.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22231653

The former Kent youth police and crime commissioner has been interviewed under caution by a Special Branch officer over comments she made on Twitter.

Paris Brown, 17, who quit the £15,000-a-year post on 9 April, is being investigated over tweets which could be considered racist and homophobic.

A spokesman said police had received more than 50 complaints from members of the public and the force was trying to establish whether any criminal offences had been committed.

Miss Brown's lawyers Olswang said she was visited at home by two officers, one from Kent Special Branch, on 11 April when she surrendered her mobile phone for examination.

She was interviewed under caution at a Kent police station on 14 April and her phone was returned three days later.

Kent Police said in a statement: "Officers must first determine the extent of the misuse of social media so that the Crown Prosecution Service can then determine whether or not any potential evidence meets the set criteria for a prosecution.

"We will investigate all complaints thoroughly but cannot comment further on the progress of a live investigation."

Girl gotta record now ..... shrug::

[arista]

"Miss Brown's lawyers Olswang said she was visited
at home by two officers, one from
Kent Special Branch, on 11 April
when she surrendered her mobile phone for examination."

Yes its Normal Omah
for feck sake it went global
on NDTV24/7 India and CNN America and FoxNewsHD

[MTVN]

Police action is a bit ridiculous

[arista]

Police action is a bit ridiculous


No they Have to
Follow it Through
due to Angry Public


Or the Police look Stupid

[MTVN]

Nah nobody really cares about this anymore

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-22238147

The former Kent youth police and crime commissioner will not face prosecution over comments she made on Twitter, police have said.

Paris Brown, 17, who quit the £15,000-a-year post on 9 April, was interviewed under caution on 14 April over comments she posted before her appointment.

In a statement, Kent Police said: "We have spoken to the CPS about our findings and given them our view that this case does not pass the evidential threshold for prosecution.

"We will make no recommendations to them for charges and will take no further police action having discharged our duty to investigate."

The statement said that while some language used by Miss Brown was offensive, particularly derogatory comments about particular social groups, it did not believe they were grossly offensive.


Endof ..... :pipe:

[arista]

Lucky Her

[AnnieK]

Hope she can put this behind her now. Learn from her mistakes and it doesn't affect her future.

[Glenn.]

Bit of a bump to this thread but she was mentioned on Big Fat Quiz of the Year and my cousin told me tonight that she is from our town and that she was in the same class as her at school.

Considering how far reaching this story is, I had never heard of it and I live on a pretty small island where this fine upstanding moron lives :bored:

[Z]

Weird how small the world can be; one of my uni friends went to school with one of the Peru drug girls