Suffolk :Woman fell from a multi-storey car park - her home has 3 dead young children

[arista]

"Bodies of children aged three, two and 11 months found by police after a woman fell from a multi-storey car park
Children discovered after woman fell to her death in Lowestoft
Suffolk Police say they are treating the deaths of the children as suspicious"


This is so Tragic all three kids under 4

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"Multi-storey car park in Lowestoft
today after a woman fell to her death here,
which led officers to discover her
three children dead at home"

http://news.sky.com/story/1078521/lowestoft-mother-and-children-found-dead


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2309426/BREAKING-NEWS-Bodies-children-aged-11-months-police-woman-fell-multi-storey-car-park.html

[King Gizzard]

why does stuff..keep happening here

[arista]

why does stuff..keep happening here


Its just unluky.



Maybe she split from her husband and it became to much
Of course Police will soon be on TV and Radio telling us more
within the hour

[Redway]

RIP. :sad:

[Ammi]

..just so terribly tragic..you can't imagine how much pain someone must go through to do something like that...

..RIP to them all...

[Cherie]

How awful, for her, her family and the family she leaves behind.

[King Gizzard]

the house is close to mine..I think..about 5 minutes away

[King Gizzard]

21 y/o..and she was pregnant with a 4th child

[Me. I Am Salman]

Sad news :(
Also where the hell is Lowesoft? I've never heard of it

[Ammi]

..it's on the Suffolk coast Salman..East Anglia...

[Redway]

Sad news :(
Also where the hell is Lowesoft? I've never heard of it

Suffolk, East Anglia. It's not too far off from Norwich/Ipswich.

[King Gizzard]

I'm gonna go down and look at the house..I don't know if that's insensitive or not but I bet alot of people will be

[Ammi]

...do you know where it is then Nathan..?..

..did that car not go into a house near you as well..?...

[Cherie]

I'm gonna go down and look at the house..I don't know if that's insensitive or not but I bet alot of people will be

:suspect: for what reason, to lay flowers and pay your respects to the dead, or just for a gawp, can't see what you would get out of just looking at the house :conf:

[King Gizzard]

It's about a 5 min walk, basically have to go down the end of my road then it's on the next road after that

The area/house where it is though is quite rough..council houses etc..

It's on the main road so it's not as if people would go just for that, you have to go past that house pretty much to get into the centre of the town

[Ammi]

..people were probably going past as she fell then..I think it was around 8am, so some people may have been going to work..I think she was alive after the fall and died later in hospital...yeah, you will have to walk past it then, to get into town etc..go to the shop...

[King Gizzard]

yeah, I'm not going out with the sole purpose just to stare at the house it's just literally the only route you can go to get anywhere, LDN Road South

[Ammi]

..yeah, that's what I thought you meant Nathan...it'll feel a bit weird walking past it...I don't know if it'll be cordoned off round the area, I guess it will be because there was a death,,,

[King Gizzard]

It's on the news there's no real cordoning off as it was a kind of corner building, and there's just a police officer at door to prevent anyone going in, just wanted to see the tributes, but there's alot of cars stopping to have a look judging by the pictures on the news

[Cherie]

yeah, I'm not going out with the sole purpose just to stare at the house it's just literally the only route you can go to get anywhere, LDN Road South

Oh okay your post didn't read like that at all, it is not insensitive to walk past if there is no other route. Might be nice to lay some flowers if you have any cash, for the innocent little babes.

[Ammi]

..yeah, I think in a strange sort of way, if that happened where I live, I would want to go and look at the tributes and actually see the house etc..especially for the children who died..maybe it would feel a bit morbid, but somehow, it would make me feel the enormity and sadness of it as well...just so very tragic and a lady who must have felt desperate, for whatever reason...it's hard to think that there was someone feeling like that, so very close to where you are...and you have no idea...

[Kizzy]

I think that's really macabre, what a heartbreaking discovery, she must have been a very tormented young woman.

[Jake.]

Another tragic story :( RIP to her and the children

[Z]

Unless I'm reading this wrong, is it being implied that she murdered her children and then killed herself? Because I think that's despicable...

[Kizzy]

Unless I'm reading this wrong, is it being implied that she murdered her children and then killed herself? Because I think that's despicable...

Not the actions of a sane and rational person are they?
I'm not judging till I've read the facts.

[Ammi]

...the mother was heavily pregnant...

A heavily pregnant woman who fell to her death at a car park before police discovered the bodies of her three young children has been named locally as Fiona Anderson

Suffolk Police said they were called out at 8am on Monday to the death of a woman in her 20s who suffered head injuries at a car park in Gordon Road.

Officers investigating the incident later found the children at a Victorian terraced house in London Road South

They were named by neighbours as Levina, three, Addy, two, and an 11-month-old baby boy, believed to have been called Kyden.

Outside the house a number of teddy bears had been left as tributes together with flower bouquets.

Visiting the scene, Mayor of Lowestoft, Nick Webb, said the community was in "absolute shock".

He said: "It is just incomprehensible what has happened here and so difficult to get your head around.

"My heartfelt sympathies go out to the families of those who have lost their loved ones."

Formal identification is expected to take place after post-mortem examinations by a Home Office pathologist at James Paget Hospital in Gorleston conclude

Police said they were treating the children's deaths as suspicious but added that there was no further threat to the wider community.

Detective Superintendent John Brocklebank, from Norfolk and Suffolk Major Investigation Team, said: "We are in the early stages of a large investigation into what has happened.

"It is too early to be able to come up with a definitive explanation and we will be keeping an open mind.

"Our priorities now are to establish the circumstances behind the woman's death and how it may be related to the deaths of the three children."


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[arista]

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"Loss: Fiona Anderson, aged in her early 20s,
is believed to have been heavily pregnant
when she died. Her three children
were found dead at her home three
hours after she fell from the car park"

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"Father Craig McLellan pictured with
his children (left to right) Addy, Kyden and Levina.
The three were found dead in
their mother's flat this morning"

"Hours earlier, Fiona Anderson had posted desperate Facebook messages saying her partner had left her for another woman. "

So this Partner left her for a Woman with no kids
Thats so wrong.
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Also from ITV1HD Daybreak Live
"She had been told her children could go into care"


I think Kizzy these facts are showing how tragic
this is.

[Cherie]

and how feckless some men are unfortunately.

[Vanessa]

How tragic! Those poor kids. :bawling:

[Suze]

Normally if it looks like someone has taken the lives of their children as well as their own, it pisses me off that they didn't give their children the chance of life just because they themselves were in turmoil, I know that doesn't come across as at all sympathetic, but I can't help that I feel that way.

In this case however, if the mother did take their lives before maybe taking her own, I do feel for her, she was so young and must have not known which way to turn. However, usually warning signs are there, if not always that clear to read, maybe sometimes undetected cries for help in amongst their words, and it makes me so very sad that nothing or little is done to help such families in turmoil :(

This case is particularly sad, as the the family is very young and needed help of some kind, and the signs weren't picked up on :( What a waste of those four lives. Too, too sad :( This news item really tugged at my heart.

[Livia]

Four kids at her age. And contraception is free.

[arista]

Four kids at her age. And contraception is free.

But she thought her partner would stay with her.
He dumped her for another woman.


So it adds up, sadly

[Cherie]

Four kids at her age. And contraception is free.

Fair point, but she thought she was in a relationship, he should have been the one availing himself of the free contraceptives as family life wasn't for him it seems.

[Livia]

Fair point, but she thought she was in a relationship, he should have been the one availing himself of the free contraceptives as family life wasn't for him it seems.

I have to say that I don't know that many people who could afford to pop out four kids.

There are loads of different types of contraception for women, but as far as I'm aware, just two for men. And as it's the women that usually end up with the kids once it all gets too much, it's surely for the women to take some responsibility.

[AnnieK]

I have always said that if anything happened to my son I would have to "go" with him as I couldn't leave him on his own but to actually take the lives of your children, no matter how dire the circumstances, has got to be the work of an extremely desperate and unstable person.

[Cherie]

I have to say that I don't know that many people who could afford to pop out four kids.

There are loads of different types of contraception for women, but as far as I'm aware, just two for men. And as it's the women that usually end up with the kids once it all gets too much, it's surely for the women to take some responsibility.

Of course it is, I wouldn't let it to chance, but how many men "long" for a big family and how many silly women give it to them for the man to find actually the reality is a bit different and he is off. Personally I couldn't afford 4 kids, but that is not the issue here, the issue is he took off while she was still carrying his 4th child, I assume they are all his as I guess if they weren't it would be reported by now. She must have felt she was in a relatively stable relationship, nobody goes into a relationship with the view that it is going to end.... if that was the case none of us would ever buy a house, get married, have kids.

[Vicky.]

Saying she must have been mentally ill is just absolving her of responsibility for her vile actions. This woman was a monster IMO.

RIP to those innocent lives she stole :(

[Tom4784]

It's just a sad situation really and one that could have been prevented if only someone saw the signs.

[arista]

Saying she must have been mentally ill is just absolving her of responsibility for her vile actions. This woman was a monster IMO.

RIP to those innocent lives she stole :(


But after her Partner left her
she thought Social Services would take her kids.

So its wrong
but she was not in a fit state of mind - I would think.

[Vicky.]

But after her Partner left her
she thought Social Services would take her kids.

So its wrong
but she was not in a fit state of mind - I would think.
sorry to sound blunt, but I dont care for the excuses at all.

Even if she thought the kids may be took off her, it takes a horrible person to kill their own children IMO. No amount of excuses will change my mind.

[arista]

sorry to sound blunt, but I dont care for the excuses at all.

Even if she thought the kids may be took off her, it takes a horrible person to kill their own children IMO. No amount of excuses will change my mind.



Yes that I agree with you.

[Vanessa]

It sounds like she had a mental breakdown. I can't believe no one saw the signs. :(

[arista]

It sounds like she had a mental breakdown. I can't believe no one saw the signs. :(


Girls in her street
on ITV1HD Lunchtime News
said she was having problems
but no one could help.

[Vanessa]

Girls in her street
on ITV1HD Lunchtime News
said she was having problems
but no one could help.

It's a shame. This could have been prevented if she got help. :sad:

[AnnieK]

Am not trying to absolve her of blame - Vicky is right, it is a monsterous thing to do - surely life is better for your children no matter what the circumstances and that is what a sane person would believe so it lead me to belive she was desperate and unbelievably unstable. It doesn't make what she did any less horrific.

[Cherie]

I read somewhere that the children's father said he knew it was her when he heard there had been a suicide.....if this is true then he has to shoulder some responsibility

[Niamh.]

I read somewhere that the children's father said he knew it was her when he heard there had been a suicide.....if this is true then he has to shoulder some responsibility

Indeed, if he knew she was that unstable, why leave his 3 children in her care? And why dump her while she was heavily pregnant with his child and even more hormonal?

[Vanessa]

I think no sane person would ever hurt their kids. She wasn't in a fit state of mind.

[Cherie]

Am not trying to absolve her of blame - Vicky is right, it is a monsterous thing to do - surely life is better for your children no matter what the circumstances and that is what a sane person would believe so it lead me to belive she was desperate and unbelievably unstable. It doesn't make what she did any less horrific.

But surely moving out to be with a childless woman (arista's report) and leaving 3 kids under 4 and your girlfriend heavily pregnant is equally monsterous, who is more likely to have been tipped over the edge in this scenario?

[Vanessa]

But surely moving out to be with a childless woman (arista's report) and leaving 3 kids under 4 and your girlfriend heavily pregnant is equally monsterous, who is more likely to have been tipped over the edge in this scenario?

That's true. :(

[AnnieK]

But surely moving out to be with a childless woman (arista's report) and leaving 3 kids under 4 and your girlfriend heavily pregnant is equally monsterous, who is more likely to have been tipped over the edge in this scenario?

Yeah, I agree the father should shoulder the blame also...but is abandonment as bad as murder of children? Not in my book. He will have to live with his guilt (rightly so) for the rest of his life. I wonder if it will come out that she threatened to do this if he didn't return? In that case he could have prevented it and asked authorities to intervene if nothing else.

[Niamh.]

Yeah, I agree the father should shoulder the blame also...but is abandonment as bad as murder of children? Not in my book. He will have to live with his guilt (rightly so) for the rest of his life. I wonder if it will come out that she threatened to do this if he didn't return? In that case he could have prevented it and asked authorities to intervene if nothing else.

No it's not but knowing that the mother of your kids is unstable and leaving your 3 young children in her care is a pretty selfish and a very careless thing to do. It's completely irresponsible.

[Marc]

This story is horrible :( Why do people keep killing their children

[Cherie]

There is no doubt it is inconceivable that anyone could kill their own child let alone 3 of them, but until we have some idea of what went on we can't really judge her. Maybe the 4th pregnancy was an accident and he persuaded her to keep it, and then when it was too late to terminate left. She had an 11 month old baby who was most likely still waking up at night for a feed, she would have been tired, wiped out and hormonal and weepy from the pregnancy, and 3 young children, coupled with the stress of her partner leaving so maybe she just snapped and couldn't take any more. Or maybe she was a callous cow who was so jealous of her ex partners new love that she killed her family as the ultimate revenge, I'm leaning towards the former myself but who knows.

[_Seth]

why does stuff..keep happening here

Because our region is full of the inbreed dregs of society. :p

[Vanessa]

It sounds like she snapped to me. :(

[Vicky.]

But surely moving out to be with a childless woman (arista's report) and leaving 3 kids under 4 and your girlfriend heavily pregnant is equally monsterous, who is more likely to have been tipped over the edge in this scenario?

You think leaving your partner and kids is as bad as killing your kids?

Yeah the guy was selfish. But people have affairs everyday. Kids dont usually end up being killed over it.

[Cherie]

You think leaving your partner and kids is as bad as killing your kids?

Yeah the guy was selfish. But people have affairs everyday. Kids dont usually end up being killed over it.

Describing him as selfish in this case is rather mild. He was the catalyst and he must have had some inkling of her state of mind, unless of course he moved out and had no contact at all.

[King Gizzard]

Because our region is full of the inbreed dregs of society. :p

Not really, it's normally quite boring and quiet here

[Z]

Describing him as selfish in this case is rather mild. He was the catalyst and he must have had some inkling of her state of mind, unless of course he moved out and had no contact at all.

I think it's wildly inappropriate to equate him leaving her with her killing their three children, their unborn child and herself!?

Why are people taking this woman's side without knowing anything about her? What if she made every day a living hell and she was only getting pregnant to keep her boyfriend in a relationship with her? What if she didn't love her children, they were just tools to keep him there? What if he finally had enough, met somebody who actually loved him back and he left her for the new woman? What if he wanted to get his kids as soon as he possibly could, for example taking legal action against this woman who (very clearly) was mentally unstable? I don't know any more than the next person, but I think it's completely ridiculous to paint a picture of this woman as being a poor victim and the man was to blame for her actions. Her children are dead and so is she, and unless he went and murdered them all or the children all inexplicably died at the same time by complete chance, then it's looking like she killed them and then committed suicide. I don't care how bad her life was, murdering your own children is completely wicked and irredeemably bad.

[Cherie]

I think it's wildly inappropriate to equate him leaving her with her killing their three children, their unborn child and herself!?

Why are people taking this woman's side without knowing anything about her? What if she made every day a living hell and she was only getting pregnant to keep her boyfriend in a relationship with her? What if she didn't love her children, they were just tools to keep him there? What if he finally had enough, met somebody who actually loved him back and he left her for the new woman? What if he wanted to get his kids as soon as he possibly could, for example taking legal action against this woman who (very clearly) was mentally unstable? I don't know any more than the next person, but I think it's completely ridiculous to paint a picture of this woman as being a poor victim and the man was to blame for her actions. Her children are dead and so is she, and unless he went and murdered them all or the children all inexplicably died at the same time by complete chance, then it's looking like she killed them and then committed suicide. I don't care how bad her life was, murdering your own children is completely wicked and irredeemably bad.


as well as what you have quoted above,


I also said this..

Or maybe she was a callous cow who was so jealous of her ex partners new love that she killed her family as the ultimate revenge, I'm leaning towards the former myself but who knows.

[King Gizzard]

Shouldn't really speculate on anything till the facts are released..

just been on the news that she denied police entry to her house after they visited last night to ask if she knew anything about a stabbing

[Jake.]

Shouldn't really speculate on anything till the facts are released..

This

[arista]

Her Partner only left her at the Weekend
Ref: Radio 5 Live

[arista]

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The kids found dead
in the home is the worse thing about this.

[Alf]

Describing him as selfish in this case is rather mild. He was the catalyst and he must have had some inkling of her state of mind, unless of course he moved out and had no contact at all.
Give the guy a break, his children have just been murdered.

[Ammi]

Police have given Heart CCTV images showing the final hours of a mum who died after falling from a multi storey car park in Lowestoft.

Police were called to Gordon Road in the town just after 8am yesterday (Monday, April 15) after the woman was found with severe head injuries. She was pronounced dead at the scene. It is believed she had fallen from the multi-storey car park.

Enquiries into the incident led police to an address in London Road South, Lowestoft, where the bodies of three children were discovered. They are all infants, aged three, two and 11 months and believed to be the children of the deceased woman.

A post mortem examination was conducted on the deceased woman by a Home Office pathologist last night at the James Paget Hospital in Gorleston.

The examination found that her death was caused by severe head injuries consistent with a fall from height.

A post mortem examination was also conducted last night, again at the James Paget Hospital, on the three-year old female infant.

Her death is unascertained and will be the subject of further tests. Formal identification of the child has not taken place at this stage.

The post mortem examinations on the other two children are currently taking place at the Norfolk and Norwich Hospital.

Detective Superintendent John Brocklebank, of the Norfolk and Suffolk Major Incident Team, said:

“We are conducting a meticulous investigation – and need to ensure that we follow investigative procedures correctly to gain a full understand of this tragic set of events.

“As people will appreciate, we are working with families which have suffered a devastating tragedy – and elements of the investigation, such as formal identification of all those involved, may take some time.”

Today, police have released CCTV images of the deceased woman, as they try to piece together her last movements.

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A CCTV still taken from London Road South shows the woman walking up Grosvenor Road towards Kirkley Rise at about 6:15am on Monday, April 15.

Approximately five minutes later, witnesses have reported the woman briefly attending the Fyffe Centre in Belvedere Road before leaving.

About half-an-hour later, at 6.55am, there is a further sighting of the woman close to the Denes High School on Yarmouth Road, where she is seen walking towards the town centre

Another CCTV image, timed at approximately 7.55am, shows the woman entering the multi-storey car park off Gordon Road. Also in the image is a cyclist, who police would like to hear from as he may have information.



Det Supt Brocklebank said: “From the sightings we have received, coupled with CCTV footage, it appears that the woman was walking around both south and north Lowestoft, prior to entering the car park.

“She would have stood out as she was wearing a light-coloured coat and carrying a teddy bear.

“I want to find out exactly where she went during this time period, so we can piece together her final movements.

“I would appeal to people who may have been out and about early on Monday morning to cast their minds back - and if they saw a woman matching this description, or stopped to speak to her, to get in touch.”

Officers have completed their examination of the scene at the car park in Gordon Road, where cordons were lifted last night (Monday, April 15).

Examinations of the flat in London Road South continue – and it is anticipated that the cordon will remain in place for at least the next 24 hours

[King Gizzard]

Coincidentally this is the same road Sky News used to ask shops/residents about the latest budget the other month

[Ammi]

..according to ITV news the post mortem results on the children are inconclusive...

[arista]

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"CCTV shows Fiona Anderson at the Fyffe Centre
early on the morning that she died"

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"She appeared to try the door at the building
which is home to St John's Housing Trust"

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"Thirty seconds later she left
the building - less than two hours
later her body was found"

[Ammi]

A heavily pregnant woman who is believed to have killed her three children before she fell to her death left messages on the walls of her home asking for them to be buried together.

Fiona Anderson, who suffered fatal head injuries on April 15, had written notes saying that she loved her children and would 'keep them safe' shortly before she died last month.


Officers found her children - Levina, three, Addy, two, and 11-month-old Kyden - dead at their home in Lowestoft, Suffolk.

The parents of the 23-year-old appealed to the father of the children to grant Ms Anderson's last wish.

Ms Anderson's father Michael Anderson said in a pre-recorded interview shown on ITV's Daybreak this morning: 'She'd written that the children were asleep in their bed all together, all tucked up with their bears.

'They were all looking very peaceful and happy together.

'And she also wrote "please bury us together, we want to be together to keep them safe".'

The father of the children, Craig McLelland, reportedly does not want his children to be buried with their mother

Mr Anderson said: 'We must understand that that was not Fiona, Fiona would never have done anything to hurt her children.

'So that evening, Fiona, whatever happened, she had in her mind that what she was doing was correct.

'She was looking after the children and she wants to be with the children to look after them still. Everybody must understand that.'


CCTV images showed eight-months pregnant Ms Anderson walking around Lowestoft holding a teddy bear and wearing a white coat shortly before she was found.

Her mother Kerry said Fiona seemed happy when she last saw her.


Mrs Anderson said: 'She adored the children. Everything was the children, they were just everything to her.'

The heartbroken mother said she reacted with disbelief when she heard the news, saying: 'Things like that just don't happen.'

Both parents were emotional during their interview, and Mr Anderson said they would be unable to move on from their grief until their daughter is buried.

He said: 'Until we can actually bury our daughter we can't even comprehend going forward.


Speaking on ITV's Daybreak this morning, Mirror columnist Fiona Phillips, who interviewed Michael and Kerry Anderson, said: 'Obviously Craig, the children's father, must be hurting too and Michael and Kerry realise that and the reason they wanted to do this interview is they're appealing to Craig.'

At the time of her tragic death, Fiona's parents and her sisters Claire and Laura Anderson said that 'life was sometimes overwhelming' for her.


In a statement, they said: 'Fiona was a beautiful, intelligent girl and a loving and caring person, but she had suffered from mental illness since she was young and we believe she was driven to her actions yesterday

This was not our Fiona - she was not herself. She cared passionately about others but often brought stress on herself by caring too much. She was gentle but ended up under too much pressure.

'As a family we were close but she would often push us away, keen to do her own thing and not to listen when we offered support. Life was sometimes overwhelming for her.'

They added: 'She was really popular but just didn't believe she was and had forgotten there were people there that could help her.


'We wish more had been done to recognise her mental health problems.'


The inquest into the deaths of Ms Anderson and her children was adjourned last month


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[Kazanne]

I saw this interview this morning and I am in two minds about it,I feel so sorry for those children and their mum,but also have to consider how their father feels,surely he must have some say in whether they are buried together or not,Mmmm I don't know this is a hard one.

[Ammi]

The funeral has taken place in Suffolk of three children who were found dead shortly after their mother fell to her death from a car park.

Fiona Anderson, 23, who was pregnant, fell from the Gordon Road car park in Lowestoft on 15 April.

The bodies of Levina, three, Addy, two, and 11-month-old Kyden, were later discovered in a bedroom of her home in London Road South.

The children were laid to rest after a funeral in Lowestoft.

Inquests were opened and adjourned in April, with the cause of the children's deaths described as unascertained.

A funeral for Ms Anderson and her unborn child will take place at a later date.

Last month, Suffolk County Council leader Mark Bee said more local authority support was needed for "troubled families".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-22905338

[King Gizzard]

Fiona's was today btw

[Ammi]

..I thought they said hers was at a later date..I hope that they'll be buried together...I think this is still one of the saddest things to have happened, she must have felt so completely lost...

[Z]

I hope she isn't buried with them unless the father of the children is okay with it... mental illness is a very personal struggle and ultimately it's not one that this woman could cope with; but a man lost three children and a fourth unborn one as well as the woman who gave birth to all of those children... I'd imagine his feelings towards her are very complicated, but he just lost all of his children because of her actions, surely it would be disrespecting him in the most offensive way to allow her to be buried with the children if he wasn't okay with it... this story still makes me sad.