Arsenal

[Shaun]

warming to the new kit... but then not everyone's as photogenic as aaron :flutter:

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10314511_474728719296523_3093073129415030031_n.jpg

[Drew.]

Yeah the away kit looks much better in the flesh compared to regular photos of it.

Some of the youngsters today.. Olsson, Akpom, Zelalem & Bellerin >

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[Drew.]

Pre season has finally properly begun

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[Shaun]

i miss eisfeld

[Brother Leon]

Good to see Theo back from injury.

[King Gizzard]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtNglcuIIAAbGkA.jpg

[Shaun]

I keep hearing about him... is he any good?

[King Gizzard]

I follow an Argentine dude who loves him..and have just generally heard over the last 2 or so years he's really good. Sunderland tried to get him last year but he failed a medical. Was surprised because I thought he could do better than Sunderland

Just got relegated in Italy mind

[King Gizzard]

I can't get over how ridiculously oversized those necks on your shirt are...that would drive me mad if I was an Arsenal fan

[King Gizzard]

they are like them shirts they wear on geordie shore that don't even cover chests

[King Gizzard]

at least they are not as bad as spurs' though

[Shaun]

probably designed to fit per's head through them

[Shaun]

493817765250490368

2 Chambz :love: (yes i stole that from a reply to this, what of it)

[Drew.]

Such a great signing.. Saints fans saying hes got just as much if not more potential than Shaw. Not as exciting going forwards as Shaw but that's not really why we got him.

[Drew.]

http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/scaled/700x1000/jul_14/gun__1406561331_cc1.jpg

[Drew.]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bt99YCbIcAAEZFF.jpg

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[Shaun]

can you edit the bloody title already

#disrespectingtheother3signings

[Drew.]

Emirates cup begins today on BT sport. Valencia - Monaco at 1:30pm followed by Arsenal - Benfica at 4. Should be the first chance to see Sanchez, Debuchy and Chambers.

[Drew.]

Sanogo with a first half hat trick against Benfica :joker: 4-0 up at half time, Campbell with the other. Bellerin looks class, no way back for Jenkinson.

[Shaun]

:clap1:

[Drew.]

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[Shaun]

Almunia's been forced to retire because of that hypertrophic cardio-thingy (the thing that caused Muamba to collapse and nearly die) :(

well at least it's better than it actually happening to him... but still. sad end to a career.

[Locke.]

Similar thing happened with Doni.

But yeah, please sign Zigic guys.

[GiRTh]

Will Arsenal sign a striker before deadline? (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-transfers-9-strikers-arsene-4108802)

[Shaun]

was never in doubt :clap1: #honest

[Drew.]

Thank ****ing Christ

That was up there with the worst refereeing display I've ever seen, it's ****ing ridiculous how we're getting decisions against us like tonight on a weekly basis

Sanchez and Wilshere were unreal, The room is there to spend big again before the deadline.

[Brother Leon]

They should of had a pen before you scored....


EDIT: You also get red cards or Pens to bail you out almost every other week :laugh:

[Shaun]

no1curr

[Drew.]

They should of had a pen before you scored....


EDIT: You also get red cards or Pens to bail you out almost every other week :laugh:

What games have you been watching? 3 pens in the league last season..

[Shaun]

how is howard webb doing these days leon :idc:

[Novo]

Maribor will deal with your lot

[Brother Leon]

how is howard webb doing these days leon :idc:

He hasn't given us a 50/50 for about 3 years. He's too scared of the people who don't even watch the matches and assume he's in United;s pocket.

[Locke.]

Arsenal have gotten very lucky tonight, they should be counting their blessings that they'll be in the draw with us big timers tomorrow

[Shaun]

Giroud out until January :(

[King Gizzard]

OH ARSENAL WE LOVE YoU

[King Gizzard]

arsenal arsenal arsenal, arsenal arsenal arsenaaaal

[King Gizzard]

arsenal arsenal arseNAL, ARSENAL ARSENAL

[Drew.]

http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Dat-Guy1.jpg

[King Gizzard]

What do we think of Tottenham?

[Shaun]

what

[King Gizzard]

****!

[King Gizzard]

What do we think of ****? Tottenham!

[Ryan57]

Nathan, close this thread please. This cruel bastard of a club has stolen Lord Danny.

[Drew.]

THANK YOU

[King Gizzard]

this is my home now fam. #gunner for life

[Ryan57]

Tbf, I will be watching Arsenal an awful lot. I loved Danny.

[King Gizzard]

Tbf, I will be watching Arsenal an awful lot. I loved Danny.

come to see the arsenal, you've only come to see the arsenal, come to see the arrrrsssseenal, you've only come to see the arsenal

[Ryan57]

Nathan... I didn't expect you to react like this just because you didn't sign the English Xavi.

[Drew.]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bwi2sE9CYAAExQt.jpg

[Brother Leon]

Get that crackhead,smoking bad influence away from Welbz right now!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwhuCwbCYAA2QYb.jpg

[King Gizzard]

looks so much better in an Arsenal kit our Welbz

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwjGMLwCMAAhGHk.jpg

[Ryan57]

I could cry.

[Ryan57]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwjVpAHCIAEjdLj.jpg

Danny getting the last laugh over these slow fannys.

[King Gizzard]

Danny Danny Danny Welbeck (Glory Glory Man United)

Dan Welbeck back for good


top class Arsenal chants

[Ryan57]

Roll on 12:45pm on Saturday 13th September. The day, to give him his full name, Lord Daniel Nii Tackie Mensah "Danny" Welbeck puts Man City to the sword.

[Jayson]

https://vine.co/v/Oudertij2Vw

[Shaun]

my panties are soaking

[Shaun]

not arsenal players paving the way for anti-homophobic sentiment in football :clap1:

eTb-eepjheE

[Ryan57]

509084773848207360

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxCh47GCUAAhcm_.jpg

[Shaun]

he just needed a move to a bigger club to unlock his potential

[Brother Leon]

Glad he got his downgrade move to show what he's about. He'll excel.

[Shaun]

510852279671726080

time to get Pires, S.L. Jackson and Skarsgard in the team.

[Drew.]

Stick Hamilton in too

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxbhRgIIcAIYkoY.jpg:large

[Shaun]

Oan5lK0enmj

beautiful

[Brother Leon]

510852279671726080

time to get Pires, S.L. Jackson and Skarsgard in the team.

No he isn't. He's been in Liverpool and Chelsea kits before too :laugh:

[King Gizzard]

drake mk2

[GiRTh]

Arsenal fans will never learn! Arsene Wenger does not deserve credit for seeing off depleted Aston Villa

Link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2766102/Arsenal-fans-never-learn-Arsene-Wenger-does-not-deserve-credit.html#readerCommentsCommand-message-field)

What is this tw*t on about? If he thinks Arsenal fans are happy then he's seriously misjudged the situation.

I hear this all the time from Utd fan saying we're too happy to aim for no higher than 4th.

Wenger wont be sacked and its right that he wont; has earned the right to step down when he wants but Arsenal fans are a long way from happy

[Shaun]

Deadline Day (and the lack of defender / holding midfielder buys) proved that :laugh: I do sometimes think he has a bit of a fondness for mediocre-at-best Frenchmen doing various jobs for us they're often incapable of (I love Giroud and Flamini, but they're not amazing; Sanogo shouldn't be anywhere in the squad; Debuchy's great; Diaby might as well be a leper)

Otherwise, I have no real issues with Wenger. Think he's a top bloke really. And that twinkle in his eye :flutter:

[Shaun]

also, yay alexis <3

[Drew.]

Can't argue what hes done and continues to do, but there are too many heavy defeats and unnecessary things happening at the club because of him these days. Hes still stuck in the past and doesn't have the same mind set about the game as most managers do these days. His tactics are usually poor at crucial times and his stubbornness gets the better of him.. 2 centre backs at the club is inexcusable. Bidding say £23m for a player when their price is set at £25m and refusing to match it is the worst and most frustrating thing for a fan. Will miss him massively when he does leave but im excited for some new ideas at the club.

[GiRTh]

Deadline Day (and the lack of defender / holding midfielder buys) proved that :laugh: I do sometimes think he has a bit of a fondness for mediocre-at-best Frenchmen doing various jobs for us they're often incapable of (I love Giroud and Flamini, but they're not amazing; Sanogo shouldn't be anywhere in the squad; Debuchy's great; Diaby might as well be a leper)

Otherwise, I have no real issues with Wenger. Think he's a top bloke really. And that twinkle in his eye :flutter:He's on about 8 million a year - 2nd only to Mourinho - and I dont think the job he's doing is worthy of that huge salary.

When the stadium was being built I think Wenger was the best manager in the league - better than Ferguson - he couldn't bid for any top players yet we still finished 4th every year. I'm not sure but I think he got it into his head that he didnt need to spend the 25+ million on one player to finish in a ECL position and I think 4th has indeed become the target for us. But now we have the money I think he is doing a mediocre job at best; especially when you compare him to the young hungry managers like Rodgers and Martinez who are probably on less than half Wengers salary.

[GiRTh]

Can't argue what hes done and continues to do, but there are too many heavy defeats and unnecessary things happening at the club because of him these days. Hes still stuck in the past and doesn't have the same mind set about the game as most managers do these days. His tactics are usually poor at crucial times and his stubbornness gets the better of him.. 2 centre backs at the club is inexcusable. Bidding say £23m for a player when their price is set at £25m and refusing to match it is the worst and most frustrating thing for a fan. Will miss him massively when he does leave but im excited for some new ideas at the club.Agreed. Especially with his baffling transfer policy. From Gary Cahill to Julain Draxler to Brade Haangeland there is a long list of excellent players that Wenger posted frankly insulting bids. Especially Cahill. I'm pretty certain that if Wegner had bid 12million he'd have got Cahill but Wenger being Wenger decided to take the p*ss and bid was it 6 million? Gary Cahill should be an Arsenal player but Wenger was happy enough with Eboue. It says it all

[Ryan57]

Better than Fergie is a bit OTT. Fergie didn't spend much in some summers, but he still won things. He hasn't once been better than Fergie in the last several years. Not being able to buy big players is no excuse for nine years of trophy less campaigns.

[Ryan57]

Wait, better than Fergie during the period of 2004-2006 or after you'd moved to the Emirates? It's just during the time Emirates was being built you finished higher than fourth.

If the former, then ignore me going off on one like a little bitch.

[Brother Leon]

Wenger isn't close to Fergie. Look at the spending Fergie done in comparison to what he achieved. He was outspent by City and Chelsea and still prevented their dominance. Wenger hasn't been close since the Invincibles season.

[Ryan57]

Tbf, he did finish above Fergie in 2004-05. Since then he hasn't been close.

So fooking sad that I remember this s h i t.

[Shaun]

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good stuff

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oh :(

[Drew.]

Theo!!!!!!!

Ramseys form has been really bad the past month or so, thank god the ever reliable Diaby is fit now.

[Ryan57]

Wenger's 18th anniversary today.

[Lady Rasheeda]

not a patch on sir alex

[GiRTh]

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Our latest signing. He looks good but WTF he's 17 and 6 foot 2. HE plays as a holding mid and sometime centre back. He's gonna come straight into the first team. Good luck mate :thumbs:

Paulista next and I'll be happy with this transfer winhdow.

[Shaun]

I saw some talk of a straight swap of Jenkinson and Winston Reid. I can't see much point in that tbh.

[GiRTh]

I saw some talk of a straight swap of Jenkinson and Winston Reid. I can't see much point in that tbh.
I'd rather have Winston Reid than Jenkinson.

[Drew.]

Jenkinson is pretty much not needed now Bellerin has come through. Looking forwards to seeing Bielik coming into the side though, he'll already be better than Flamini with any luck.

[GiRTh]

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the other potential signing . Wenger has said publicly that its true he has made a bid - very unusual for Wegner to do that.. Apparently he has a 20-25 mill buy out clause in his contract but he has not been capped yet. Bit high valuation for an uncapped player. We'll see if Wenger is prepared to pay that kind of money for him

[Drew.]

He is on his way

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8JJCzjCEAASNFf.jpg

[Drew.]

Kos and Paulista to form the best partnership in the league

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8JONGTIMAABG32.png:large

[GiRTh]

GxSQjFlc-gc

[Shaun]

560369488588447745

lmao :facepalm:

[Drew.]

Gabriel!!!!!!!! This guy looks like a mean intimidating ****, but i already love him. I wouldn't want to go near him if i was a striker. (We have to call him Gabriel not Paulista)

“I am arriving at a big club and the fans can expect to find a Gabriel with a great will to help everyone. Not just thinking of me as an individual, because to me that is not important. I care more about helping the team and my team-mates. I want to help everyone, so the fans can expect a Gabriel that on the field has a lot of will to be able to help the team win important things.”

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20150128/arsenal-complete-the-signing-of-gabriel

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8c59wZCYAEWZ_w.jpg

[GiRTh]

qU_zELqXJn4

:clap1:

[Ryan57]

I don't think Wenger is arrogant, I think he's just massively naive. I never see Arsenal winning the title with him in charge. He's always doing stupid things. It's often one step forward and two back with him.

Last night, once again, questionable decisions. Puts Ramsay on the wing, again, wtf? Has a dodgy back two in Chambers and Gabriel, granted they were more solid in the second half but still prone to an error, and he takes Coquelin off. The player who would shield the pair if a counter attack broke out. Coquelin was, for me, by a mile Arsenal's best player in the first half as well. Made some great interceptions.

Wenger is tactically useless most of the time. David Moyes took 4 points off him for FFS, when he was our manager.

I think Arsenal will finish third and flatter to deceive again. As always, they stand no chance no Europe.


Also, Henry is an absolute waste of space on Sky. What a waste of money Sky are spending on him. Totally up Wenger's arse.

[GiRTh]

Arsenal fans demand answers from board after becoming only club in Europe's major leagues not to sign an outfield player


LINK (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3219427/Arsenal-Supporters-Trust-wants-board-review-lack-transfer-activity-club-Europe-s-five-leagues-not-purchase-outfield-player.html)

We need more of this from the fans. Wenger and the board take the p*ss out of arsenal fans.

[Ryan57]

Could Kroenke be the issue as to why money hasn't been spent?

I heard this on talkSPORT yesterday: http://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1443733200#

Click 11pm and it starts from 4:30 mins in. Very interesting if true.

[GiRTh]

This may be true. I dont know that much about Kronke but I was always of the opinion that he didnt like to dabble in his sports franchises too much. I would doubt Wenger would be happy to work under those condiditon though. Anyway they are right, there is definitely a reason other than 'No one was avaiable' as to why Arsenal didnt sign any outfield plaers this window.

[Ryan57]

I guess it depends. Some United fans believe Fergie was okay with The Glazers withholding money as they didn't interfere in the footballing side of things. (Pure speculation of course).

Or maybe it was ineptitude. Like United's summer after Fergie left. We only signed a player at all at the late on deadline day.

[Brother Leon]

It's obvious why money wasn't spent this year. Arsene and Arsenal both know that he is leaving soon and they are keeping costs as low as possible until the new manager comes in(next season) and has a good 200m+ to change the squad as he likes. It's basically the later Fergie years again followed by post Fergie years all over again, but for Arsenal. Difference being , Sir Alex was still able to compete because he is GOAT.

[GiRTh]

Credit to Sheffield Wednesday they played well. We failed to even get one shot on target over the 90 minutes but they looked like they were gonna score every time they got in our final third. I can safely say Arsenal youngsters arent up to much.

[Shaun]

i can't say i really care about tonight other than walcott/ox's injuries (though i assume theo's was light since he stayed in the subs area?)

[GiRTh]

Ajax have terminated Yaya Sanogo's loan-deal and he is in talks with Charlton

http://the72.co.uk/46962/charlton-set-to-sign-arsenal-striker-and-ajax-flop/

Man City get Guardiola while we get Yaya Sanogo back cuz Ajax dont want him. :idc:

[Drew.]

Gonna miss you Yaya

[GiRTh]

Check out some of the misses in this video. OMG that he was our first choice striker just two years ago,.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/arsenals-yaya-sanogo-misses-series-6825812

[GiRTh]

https://soundcloud.com/talksport/ill-conga-naked-the-best-bits-of-piers-morgans-arsenal-rant-on-the-sports-breakfast

Piers Morgan has been ranting again. :laugh2:

Arsenal earn over £3 million from each home game. More than Real Madrid, Barcelona and Man Utd.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-earn-more-real-madrid-7217377

[GiRTh]

Sanogo finally scores after a couple of years of trying. Grabs himself a hatrick no less.
Remember when he started a season as our main striker. :facepalm: :umm2:

[Shaun]

He didn't really though did he. He had a miracle against Monaco and then got a few courtesy starts at best. He was never really going to displace Giroud then :think:

[GiRTh]

He didn't really though did he. He had a miracle against Monaco and then got a few courtesy starts at best. He was never really going to displace Giroud then :think:Maybe, all I remember he started about three or four games at the start of the season and had to be replaced in all of them. :idc:

[Drew.]

There was that period in his first season where he made quite a few appearances in all comps.. this was during the months after we failed to sign a striker in Jan which made things even worse.

Will always remember him scoring in that win over Dortmund, not because of how memorable the goal was but for how funny it is that he actually scored a CL goal. Makes things even funnier if Spurs fail to beat them in the Europa too.

[GiRTh]

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/arsenal-player-salaries/

Interesting read. We've got a lot of players with contracts winding down who aren't worth the money.

Bellerin on 10K :shocked: We need to sort that out right away.

[Shaun]

It's nearing rumour season and there's already hundreds that are upsetting me because they'll never happen </3

Morata, Xhaka, Kroos seem to be the main three atm. I'd be delighted with either of the former two.

[GiRTh]

It's nearing rumour season and there's already hundreds that are upsetting me because they'll never happen </3

Morata, Xhaka, Kroos seem to be the main three atm. I'd be delighted with either of the former two.I'd be delighted with any of those three.

[alex_front2]

Thought I'd have a nosy in Arsenal Mania forum to see if it was all pandemonium with Gooners was true and wasn't disappointed.

Nice quote there, QFT. An Arsenal fan ranting on title rivals outsmarting them on their original plans

Just highlights another failure of this club / Wenger. Much like how he spent years trying to win the league without spending and being beaten at doing so by Leicester, our attempt at making a British core failed and has been beaten by Spurs.

:laugh2:

[GiRTh]

Alltrue. There is no excuse for how the team has performed in big matches and the lack of improvement in the players..

Wenger must take responsibility as all team affairs are down to him. There is a joke among Arsenal fans that all Steve Bould does is set the cones out in training; he has no other duties. There is no one at the club who has any kind of influence on the team other than Wenger.

[alex_front2]

Alltrue. There is no excuse for how the team has performed in big matches and the lack of improvement in the players..

Wenger must take responsibility as all team affairs are down to him. There is a joke among Arsenal fans that all Steve Bould does is set the cones out in training; he has no other duties. There is no one at the club who has any kind of influence on the team other than Wenger.

Wenger should have copied Fergie and change assistant every 3 years.

[GiRTh]

Wenger: Best of Walcott is still to come at Arsenal

Arsene Wenger says that Theo Walcott is still to offer his best at Arsenal, and will show that in the future.

There had been reports that Arsenal’s longest-serving player could leave the Emirates this summer, after losing his place in the first team.

Walcott has spoken regularly of his desire to play as a central striker, but Olivier Giroud and Danny Welbeck both appear to be ahead of him in the pecking order.

However, Wenger has issued a strong message that he still sees Walcott as a valuable member of his squad.

“I like that we live in a society where people always want new faces and new names,” Wenger told Arsenal.com.

“But we forget sometimes the loyalty, cohesion and the long-term phase that is needed in a player to be successful at the club. You need players through the generations and I’m very pleased with him.

“He’s been here for 10 years, that shows as well that he loves Arsenal and I’m convinced he will give us much more in the next five years than the last five.

“Because he is a player who is always moving forward and trying to do better. He has a very positive attitude.”

LINK (http://www.football365.com/news/wenger-best-of-walcott-is-still-to-come-at-arsenal)

For any football fan who doesn't think Wenger has lost it. SMH :facepalm:

[alex_front2]

Walcott, Wilshere and the Ox have all regressed or not lived up to the promise they once had shown. Squad players at best. The thing is they are all genial guys, nice guys. Wenger needs Zlatan 2.0 , the next Zlatan type player who is technically gifted but also a big character who is a leader and won't take any sh*te. Sadly Wenger hates these types. He likes nkcey wicey types.

[GiRTh]

Walcott has played 230 matches in ten years if he goes at that rate he'll have played about 350-400 in another five years. So is he going to finally fulfill his potential after about 400 games? :facepalm: :joker:

[alex_front2]

छोटे सरCar
छोटे सरCar ‏@rikit_shahi
Leicester - from 20th to 1st in 1 season
Arsenal - 4th to 3rd in 12 seasons

:laugh2:

This Bennett ‏@JohnBennettBBC
This photo was just 6 games ago; Arsenal beat Leicester to go 2pts behind. Tomorrow #LCFC could go 13 clear of #AFC


http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfmuZqOWEAAp_Fi.jpg

[GiRTh]

Embarrassing picture. Players should only pose like that with a cup they've just won not after a routine league win.

[alex_front2]

It is embarrassing, as the previous season when Leicester were relegation fodder and Arsenal were winning routinely, the players would not have even bothered to take a selfies.

[GiRTh]

Arsène Wenger says Arsenal’s summer transfer activity will be limited (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/15/arsene-wenger-arsenal-transfer-market-tottenham-hotspur-premier-league)

Not again.

:facepalm:

In January reports said he had 70 millon to spend.

Arsene Wenger has £70m to spend (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/15/arsene-wenger-arsenal-transfer-market-tottenham-hotspur-premier-league)

[Mystic Mock]

Walcott has played 230 matches in ten years if he goes at that rate he'll have played about 350-400 in another five years. So is he going to finally fulfill his potential after about 400 games? :facepalm: :joker:

Walcott may not be at his best anymore, but he has been one of Arsenal's star players in some of his earlier on seasons in my view.

I think Wenger needs to find a replacement for Walcott who has been suffering with injuries lately.

[GiRTh]

Walcott may not be at his best anymore, but he has been one of Arsenal's star players in some of his earlier on seasons in my view.

I think Wenger needs to find a replacement for Walcott who has been suffering with injuries lately.No he isnt and has never been a star performer. He's scored twenty goals in a season only once in his ten years. Not good enough for an attacking player who is currently one of the highest paid at the club. Only Sanchez and Ozil are on more money and he isnt any where near their class or ability.

As for injuries, hes never had an injury that affected his pace so I dont think any injury can be blamed for his lack of improvement.

[Mystic Mock]

No he isnt and has never been a star performer. He's scored twenty goals in a season only once in his ten years. Not good enough for an attacking player who is currently one of the highest paid at the club. Only Sanchez and Ozil are on more money and he isnt any where near their class or ability.

As for injuries, hes never had an injury that affected his pace so I dont think any injury can be blamed for his lack of improvement.

Walcott might be better suited to Arsenal if they had some aggressive players in the team maybe? Because I honestly don't think that Walcott is a bad player, but his definitely having a tough time of it lately like Rooney has for Man Utd.

[alex_front2]

Arsenal gravitate to natural position #4. It's as if they felt unhappy at #3. Arsenal and #4 place is one of they most enduring love story of modern times :laugh2: Welcome back to #4, Arsenal :laugh3:. They will struggle to get #3 as MAN City goal difference is tricky with about 5 games left.

Today's Palace draw just highlights AFC's issues. Can't hold onto a lead, can't consistently beat weak sides at home. There is no bite, no fear factor with Arsenal. If a Yeovil, Fleetwood Town or a Dagenham and Redbridge played Arsenal in league or FA Cup these lower league sides would definitely be braver and more attacking than they would be against a Man City, West Ham, or a Spurs.

As much as I think Zlatan is a bit of a self promoting overrated chancer (who is legend in his own mind), Arsenal do need a leading from the front, nasty, aggressive, greedy alpha character like him to shake things up, even if it's only for 1 season. Arsene Wenger needs to apologise for the "audition" fiasco even if it was years ago and get him. Arsenal are just too nice and cosy.

[Shaun]

I really see no point in spending that much money on someone who's going to retire in one or two years. Yeah he'd grab a few more goals than we get now but I don't think that'd solve our problems.

[alex_front2]

It would be wages only. He's out of contract with PSG 1970 in summer so would ba freebie. The only issue is wages (£600k week is excessive but I'm sure he will take a cut to be on London than up north).

Don't get me wrong, I think ZLATAN at 35 will be a bit washed up. But Arsenal lack bite and leadership. Zlatan will bring leadership (Arsenal have no leaders just a nicey wicey captain), bring a bit of fear ( both from Arsenal players as well as opposing teams!), bring assists. He will shake up the slackers and reinvent the club.

Zlatan will imho definitely be at either Arsenal or Man U next season with the Gooners in pole position (Man U probably wont have CL football, which he has never won, City ruled out due to hating Pep, and rule out Chelsea as new boss Conte seems to want to blood in the youth players and Italians/ Argentineans, Spurs seem to be going down the youth route too and Leicester, oh come on now).

[Brother Leon]

http://i.imgur.com/3Rpu7in.png

LOL. What a fool.

[Shaun]

:laugh:

[Brother Leon]

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[GiRTh]

Expected this. Piers Morgan heard this from an insider about 6 weeks and revealed it on his twitter page while doing his nut.

The players will be playing to a half full stadium next year.

[alex_front2]

Wenger staying? Spurs might as well crack open bubbly now. Not for the title , but for the end of St Totteridge day is here. They are now new Kings of North London.

AFC will never win title or CL with Wenger. The thing is the owners love him as he guarantees no big expensive multiple transfers, top 4, CL, financial stability. The thing is with Spurs, Chelsea, and West Ham getting bigger stadiums, Arsenals financial stability may collapse a bit.

[Alf]

Wenger staying? Spurs might as well crack open bubbly now. Not for the title , but for the end of St Totteridge day is here. They are now new Kings of North London.

AFC will never win title or CL with Wenger. The thing is the owners love him as he guarantees no big expensive multiple transfers, top 4, CL, financial stability. The thing is with Spurs, Chelsea, and West Ham getting bigger stadiums, Arsenals financial stability may collapse a bit.So you're saying Wenger puts his reputation on the line to save Arsenal money?

Do you think he doesn't want to win?

He has his own philosophy, a philosophy that has built a dynasty full of silverware over the past twenty years.


When you catch a salmon, you don't chuck it back.

[Shaun]

you'd probably throw it away if it 'went off' five years ago though wouldn't you

[Drew.]

I don't think he's bothered how well he does now. He still brings up the past and what he's won all those years ago, and he knows there's a handful of journalists that will do the same and back him up to still be in the job. If he really wanted what's best for the club he would have walked away years ago, we're at the lowest we've ever been under him and he still refuses to go.. I think it's obvious he's just there to collect his big fat pay cheque which he's guaranteed to get every year

[Alf]

you'd probably throw it away if it 'went off' five years ago though wouldn't you
Was it 5 years ago that he last brought silverware to the club?

[Alf]

Ungrateful is a word that comes to mind.

[Drew.]

When the club becomes a way of business for the owners and the managers involved in that as well by using the club as a way to take away from the fans and not provide enough back to make us competitive like they could do then i don't think ungrateful comes into this. They don't care about us, as long as the stadiums near full every week and moneys coming in then everyone from the manager upwards is happy.

[Shaun]

I'm bored of being told by non-Arsenal fans to "be grateful" with a club that's consistently fourth best despite being the third richest in the world and capable of a lot more. Maybe as an Everton fan you could covet our position but the annual "this is our year" followed by month after month of crushing gets a little bit old.

The 2 FA Cups were great, obviously, but not even close to enough for a decade of top flight football.

There is a very clear difference between respecting a manager for his past successes and asking if he's the right manager for us right now. Not sure why everyone gets so butthurt on his behalf. I love the guy, and will always worship him for what he's done, but he's past it.

[Mystic Mock]

So you're saying Wenger puts his reputation on the line to save Arsenal money?

Do you think he doesn't want to win?

He has his own philosophy, a philosophy that has built a dynasty full of silverware over the past twenty years.


When you catch a salmon, you don't chuck it back.

The thing is as well is if Arsenal fans get their wish and Wenger does leave then that will be the last remaining iconic Manager gone from the Premiership that's won things, has had epic rivalries, and qualifies for CL every year.

I'm no Arsenal fan by any means, and out of the London teams I'm much more of a Spurs person, but to want Wenger to go because Arsenal fans think that they're bigger than what they are is just silly in my view.

With or without Wenger, Arsenal would not have stopped this weird Leicester form, or Spurs this season, and as for the CL they'll never best the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, and the Serie A clubs for a very long time to come in my view.

The team needs more physical players in the squad to compete more effectively, not a change in Manager.

[Alf]

So now it's a case of entitlement? You believe you're entitled to be the most successful club?

You're a fan, support your team through the highs and the lows.

Why is your stadium packed out every week? If your team was serving up dross, then it wouldn't, but it's full because of the culture Wenger has brought to the club, a culture of competing at the top end of the table.

Even predicted relegation fodder like Leicester City have chance to be successful, 19 other teams beside Arsenal all have the same goal, and it's tough.


You win some you lose some, that's sport.

[Alf]

The thing is as well is if Arsenal fans get their wish and Wenger does leave then that will be the last remaining iconic Manager gone from the Premiership that's won things, has had epic rivalries, and qualifies for CL every year.

I'm no Arsenal fan by any means, and out of the London teams I'm much more of a Spurs person, but to want Wenger to go because Arsenal fans think that they're bigger than what they are is just silly in my view.

With or without Wenger, Arsenal would not have stopped this weird Leicester form, or Spurs this season, and as for the CL they'll never best the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, and the Serie A clubs for a very long time to come in my view.

The team needs more physical players in the squad to compete more effectively, not a change in Manager.
Absolutely.

Arsene Wenger doesn't suddenly become a bad manager overnight. This is a guy who's locked horns with the best Fergie, Mourinho ect, and is the one who's still standing.

I have nothing but the upmost respect for Wenger, and I don't even support Arsenal.

[Shaun]

I'll agree on the stronger players/leaders point but if anything that can just be traced back to having a manager that is no longer fussed about leading himself. Every match - even when we win - he just disappears down the tunnel and gives a generic interview. He's got into a rut of cultivating young talent that - if they ever get that far - end up being sold to more successful teams when they reach it, so of course none of them are going to stand a full season of fitness, let alone the physical nature of the premier league.

At the end of the day the only thing in his favour, the only thing that people defend him with, is his history.

Even the other Arsenal heroes / superfans are questioning him, even Ian Wright's questioned his motivation to succeed/progress, it's really not a question of "Not being a real fan" lol. And yeah, other managers get harangued and called to be sacked way before they need to be (saw something about Quique Flores at Watford earlier? :laugh: wtf) but come on. Title favourites to "maybe finishing 5th/6th" within 4 months. It's failure. If we do miss out on the champions league next season I'll be intrigued to read the 3 people who still defend him just before they're shipped off to the loony bin.

[Mystic Mock]

Arsenal will qualify for the CL imo as Man City are playing terrible, and Man Utd have left it too late to start getting good imo.

[Alf]

I seem to be constantly having stick up for Managers and players on this forum.

[GiRTh]

So you're saying Wenger puts his reputation on the line to save Arsenal money?

Do you think he doesn't want to win?

He has his own philosophy, a philosophy that has built a dynasty full of silverware over the past twenty years.


When you catch a salmon, you don't chuck it back.Its a legitimate point.

Stan Kronke has a number of sporting franchises and of them Arsenal are easily the biggest money earner. Kronke is relocating the St Lois Rams to Los Angeles which we know is costing a fortune. Where is the money coming from if Arsenal are the only one of his franchises who consistently make money every year??

I agree with you though, surely Wenger would not be prepared to work under such conditions but its is a legitimate reason as to why the club is in its current situation

[GiRTh]

Ungrateful is a word that comes to mind.Its not about being ungrateful, its about the culture you describe of competing. We dont compete in the Champions League. Its great that we're there every year but do you think its right for Arsenal to prioritise the Champions league, a cup they have little chance of winning but bring big financial reward, over the League cup which they have a great chance of winning but brings in little financial reward.

Its about the lack of improvement in the team, the promises made every year, the horrible excuses made for the lack of improvement, the players who have been given chance after chance but still cant deliver and the fact that our biggest rivals look much more equipped to compete for the title than we have looked for almost a decade.

[GiRTh]

I'll agree on the stronger players/leaders point but if anything that can just be traced back to having a manager that is no longer fussed about leading himself. Every match - even when we win - he just disappears down the tunnel and gives a generic interview. He's got into a rut of cultivating young talent that - if they ever get that far - end up being sold to more successful teams when they reach it, so of course none of them are going to stand a full season of fitness, let alone the physical nature of the premier league.

At the end of the day the only thing in his favour, the only thing that people defend him with, is his history.

Even the other Arsenal heroes / superfans are questioning him, even Ian Wright's questioned his motivation to succeed/progress, it's really not a question of "Not being a real fan" lol. And yeah, other managers get harangued and called to be sacked way before they need to be (saw something about Quique Flores at Watford earlier? :laugh: wtf) but come on. Title favourites to "maybe finishing 5th/6th" within 4 months. It's failure. If we do miss out on the champions league next season I'll be intrigued to read the 3 people who still defend him just before they're shipped off to the loony bin.But thats yet another issue. Wenger tends to get rid of the stronger players, the leaders eg Vermaalen - why did we sell him?, Alex Song - Why did we sell him? and keep the quieter ones Why did he sell Podolski and keep Walcott? :shrug:

[alex_front2]

Arsenal lack strong players both physically and mentally.

The team has no leaders, no generals. The players seem like a group of timid art school students. They may be technically gifted but there's more to great teams than this. There's no charisma or drive. Where are the modern Henry, Tony Adams, Keown, Bergkamp, Sol Campbell, Ian Wright, Ray Parlour?

Arsenal needs a Roy Keane type in midfield and a general in central defence. It doesn't have to be a technically excellent player, in fact they should get someone who is a rough diamond, eg an uncouth Cobh Rambler player. The Arsenal Women's team are tougher ffs.:laugh: Ngolo Kante would be perfect for Arsenal, but he would be perfect for Juvrntus, Real Madrid, Man City, too :laugh:

[GiRTh]

Arsenal lack strong players both physically and mentally.

The team has no leaders, no generals. The players seem like a group of timid art school students. They may be technically gifted but there's more to great teams than this. There's no charisma or drive. Where are the modern Henry, Tony Adams, Keown, Bergkamp, Sol Campbell, Ian Wright, Ray Parlour?

Arsenal needs a Roy Keane type in midfield and a general in central defence. It doesn't have to be a technically excellent player, in fact they should get someone who is a rough diamond, eg an uncouth Cobh Rambler player. The Arsenal Women's team are tougher ffs.:laugh:Never ever gonna happen under Wenger. We now know that Keane managed the Man Utd dressing room and was given Carte Blanche to dig players out by SAf if they weren't performing and SAF never intervened. That is exactly what Wenger does not want at Arsenal.

[alex_front2]

Never ever gonna happen under Wenger. We now know that Keane managed the Man Utd dressing room and was given Carte Blanche to dig players out by SAf if they weren't performing and SAF never intervened. That is exactly what Wenger does not want at Arsenal.


Well this is where Wenger fails. He has enough players who can do cheap Barce impersonations. He needs generals, hard nuts, types who will kick the crap out of Giroud if he misses a sitter not someone to recommend a good hairdresser. A really rough committed non league defender would be better than a cry baby weedy academy product who takes selfies after beating Villa. Vardy works as he's not a polished academy kid. He's bit of a chav but he is hard as nails for a striker. I dread to imagine what he would be if it wasn't for football.


Imagine Roy Keane at Arsenal or young Viera back. A real strong defensive midfielder or central defender is all Arsenal need. That is all that Arsenal are missing in order to win title (and maybe a creative midfielder), hard as nails, take players legs off, tough defenders, someone like Ryan Shawcrorss :joker:

Viera revealed the reason he left Arsenal was he was sick of Wenger being soft and lenient on lazy underperforming players. Apparently a player had been crap all seasons, lazy,not putting in a shift but rather than berate him, Wenger put his arm around him and said "it will be alright". Viera fecked off after that.

[GiRTh]

Well this is where Wenger fails. He has enough players who can do cheap Barce impersonations. He needs generals, hard nuts, types who will kick the crap out of Giroud if he misses a sitter not someone to recommend a good hairdresser. A really rough committed non league defender would be better than a cry baby weedy academy productwhotskes selfies. Vardy works as he's not a polished academy kid. He's bit of a chav but he is hard as nails for a striker. I dread to imagine what he would be if it wasn't for football.


Imagine Roy Keane at Arsenal or young Viera back. A real strong defensive midfielder or central defender is all Arsenal need. That is all that Arsenal are missing in order to win title (and maybe a creative midfielder), hard as nails, take players legs off, tough defenders, someone like Ryan Shawcrorss :joker:

Viera revealed the reason he left Arsenal was he was sick of Wenger being soft and lenient on lazy underperforming players. Apparently a player had been crap all seasons, lazy,not putting in a shift but rather than berate him, Wenger put his arm around him and said "it will be alright". Viera checked off after that.Theo Walcott was captain against Chelsea cuz it was his tenth year at the cub. It reminds me of under 9's football where players get to be captain if its their birthday. And, against one of our biggest rivals :facepalm: This is the kind of culture at Arsenal, this is the kind of dressing room at Arsenal

One of my biggest issues with Wenger over the years is that he doesn't buy enough players from other Premiership clubs. SAF knew the importance fo having good English or players with good Premeirship expereince at the core of the side, Wenger doesn't seem to get that.

John Terry might be available in the summer. I know he's getting on a bit but I'd take 40 year old John Terry over who ever Wengers got his eye on but once again he'd be too vocal, too strong, too experienced. :shrug:

[alex_front2]

Theo Walcott was captain against Chelsea cuz it was his tenth year at the cub. It reminds me of under 9's football where players get to be captain if its their birthday. And, against one of our biggest rivals :facepalm: This is the kind of culture at Arsenal, this is the kind of dressing room at Arsenal

One of my biggest issues with Wenger over the years is that he doesn't buy enough players from other Premiership clubs. SAF knew the importance fo having good English or players with good Premeirship expereince at the core of the side, Wenger doesn't seem to get that.

John Terry might be available in the summer. I'd take 40 years old John Terry over who ever Wengers got his eye on but once again he'd be too vocal, too strong, too experienced. :shrug:

Arsenal only care about attacking midfielders from France and creatives from Colombia. It's as if defending is too boring for him. He doesn't seem to realise not every player has to dribble , make clever passes and read Goethe's The Sorrows of Young Werther.:joker:

I don't get why Arsenal brought in recruiter Ben Wigglesworth from Leicester. If he suggests a great gritty defensive midfielder, Wenger will reach for smelling salts.

[Alf]

Arsenal lack strong players both physically and mentally.

The team has no leaders, no generals. The players seem like a group of timid art school students. They may be technically gifted but there's more to great teams than this. There's no charisma or drive. Where are the modern Henry, Tony Adams, Keown, Bergkamp, Sol Campbell, Ian Wright, Ray Parlour?

Arsenal needs a Roy Keane type in midfield and a general in central defence. It doesn't have to be a technically excellent player, in fact they should get someone who is a rough diamond, eg an uncouth Cobh Rambler player. The Arsenal Women's team are tougher ffs.:laugh: Ngolo Kante would be perfect for Arsenal, but he would be perfect for Juvrntus, Real Madrid, Man City, too :laugh:I agree with you about leader's, and you ask where are the modern day Adams, Campbell's ect..., maybe there's not about, or if there is, maybe they're happy where they are.

It's easy to name players who you could sign, but these are human being's and this is a lifestyle choice for them.

Wenger is giving his players a platform to go and play in the Premier league, he can't make leaders out of them, it's up to the players to step up and become leaders, the way Adams, Campbell and Bergkamp, Wright, Henry and The Romford Pele stepped up for Wenger and Arsenal

Arsenal do have a player who leads from the front in the centre of the midfield, but he hasn't been able to play a game for them all season.

[alex_front2]

And that leader who leads from from is joining Spurs coaching staff...

[GiRTh]

I agree with you about leader's, and you ask where are the modern day Adams, Campbell's ect..., maybe there's not about, or if there is, maybe they're happy where they are.

It's easy to name players who you could sign, but these are human being's and this is a lifestyle choice for them.

Wenger is giving his players a platform to go and play in the Premier league, he can't make leaders out of them, it's up to the players to step up and become leaders, the way Adams, Campbell and Bergkamp, Wright, Henry and The Romford Pele stepped up for Wenger and Arsenal

Arsenal do have a player who leads from the front in the centre of the midfield, but he hasn't been able to play a game for them all season.Absolutely true.

Wenger has made many of these players very wealthy young men and while its admirable that they defend him on twitter when he's getting stick, maybe they should try defending him by putting in performances for him. They are definitely not giving back the faith he has put in them

[Drew.]

The thing is as well is if Arsenal fans get their wish and Wenger does leave then that will be the last remaining iconic Manager gone from the Premiership that's won things, has had epic rivalries, and qualifies for CL every year.

I'm no Arsenal fan by any means, and out of the London teams I'm much more of a Spurs person, but to want Wenger to go because Arsenal fans think that they're bigger than what they are is just silly in my view.

With or without Wenger, Arsenal would not have stopped this weird Leicester form, or Spurs this season, and as for the CL they'll never best the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, and the Serie A clubs for a very long time to come in my view.

The team needs more physical players in the squad to compete more effectively, not a change in Manager.

This is the thing that gets me the most.. the constant "You'll only do what united did and slip down the league" and "Arsenal fans think they're bigger than what they are"

Firstly, how do you know? how does anyone know what will happen after he leaves. Facts are facts, we have the funds to strengthen the team considerably more than it has been in recent times. Yeah we've got good players at the club but this isn't an individuals game. When the money has been spent time and time again its gone towards small mobile players with flair who get bullied out of matches. Why can't a new manager come in and spend money wisely, be enthusiastic and show a bit of character and passion towards the players to strive for more, which is everything we currently lack.. and just generally improve the team which is more than possible.

Secondly, Nobodies asking us to conquer Europe now, We've always been a successful team ever since we were formed. We hold the record for longest time spent in the highest division of English football, We've been in European finals and won League Titles. So tell me, why should we accept mediocre and not a title challenging team Mock? Ask any World Class player or manager around Europe and they'll always see us as a threat and show us respect, but Mock who probably hasn't ever kicked a ball thinks we're an average team with a world beater of a manager. I honestly can't believe how blind fans of other clubs are to what Arsenal fans have experienced these past 10 or so years.

[GiRTh]

Inept substitutions & dodgy tactics: Arsenal's season ending with a whimper again (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2016/04/24/22748762/inept-substitutions-dodgy-tactics-arsenals-season-ending)

Excellent article. Same old sorry story from Giroud and Ramsey. :clap1:

Robert Huth and Ramiro Funes Mori have scored more league goals in 2016 than Olivier Giroud. For all the people who think Arsenal fans expectations are too high; how can an Arsenal striker score only 2 league goals in four months?. I've heard Alan Shearer, Ian Wright and Gary Lineker all say they' love to play in this Arsenal team just due to the number of chances Arsenal strikers get and all three agreed a top striker at Arsenal should be scoring 20 to 25+ league goals a season.

Counter that with the fact that Mezut Ozil has now created almost 140 chances this season; highest in the Premier leauge next is Christian Ericksson with 105, then Payet with 89. I have always held the opinion that Ozil needed better players around him. Players who are much more on his wavelength ie not Giroud and Walcott . Its obvous to everyone except the management that we need changes and more options up front.

[GiRTh]

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:joker::joker::joker:

Watch from about 8.50 as The True Geordie finally getting why Arsenal fans are so frustrated. Love his assessment of Giroud and the great last line 'Thank f88k I dont support Arsenal, and I'm getting relegated.' :laugh2:

[GiRTh]

Olivier Giroud is being spoon-fed chances by Mesut Ozil yet still can't score (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3557484/Now-wonder-Arsenal-blown-title-bid-Olivier-Giroud-spoon-fed-chances-Mesut-Ozil-t-score.html)

[alex_front2]

Oliver Giroud is not a top 4 calibre player, yet Wenger sticks by him. He is the type to score 2 pointless* goals when Arsenal loosing 5-0 (agg 8-3) at home to Braga in CL second leg with 2 mins to go.




* goal difference is mute when Spurs GD is far and away insurmountable and consistently vastly superior

[GiRTh]

Arsenal fans plan their own referendum on Arsene Wenger

Arsene Wenger is facing his own personal referendum this summer, with Arsenal fans preparing the biggest poll yet on the performance of their manager.

Many supporters are planning to display the banner ‘Time For Change’ at Saturday’s home match against Norwich City and, although the protest will not specifically call on Wenger to resign before his current contract ends next year, there is considerable frustration and a clear sense that the same mistakes are being repeated.

Wenger has faced intermittent hostility during the last five years but the current discontent appears more sustained and deep rooted than ever before. The Arsenal Supporters’ Trust commission an annual poll of fans’ and are preparing a new survey to distribute to 3,000 fans just as soon as the season ends.

A similar poll last year was of fewer than 700 fans but did actually record Wenger’s highest ever approval rating when 84 per cent either agreed or strongly agreed that their longest-serving manager was still the right man to be leading Arsenal.

Asked if they were satisfied with Arsenal’s football performance, Wenger’s work was given a thumbs up by 76 per cent of fans. It would be a major surprise if there is not a significant change in those numbers although much will probably still depend on the final three matches. Arsenal could still finish as high as second or finish outside the top four for the first time in Wenger’s 20 years at the club.

The AST began polling its members in 2010, when 60 per cent of respondents described themselves as either satisfied or highly satisfied with the club’s football performance.

This was to nosedive, however, in the period between 2011 and 2013 when that figure fell to 24 per cent, 21.5 per cent and then 17 per cent before an upsurge following the two FA Cups wins.

The frustration this season is especially acute in the context both of the problems at Chelsea, Manchester City and Manchester United and how Wenger was sufficiently confident in his squad to not sign a single outfield player last summer.

Wenger does intend changes this summer – although not a major upheaval – and want to add midfielder Granit Xhaka from Borussia Monchengladbach as well as a centre-back and potentially a striker.

Leicester City’s Ben Chilwell is also being targeted as left-back cover for Kieran Gibbs, who is likely to leave. There is also some uncertainty over the futures of Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Theo Walcott.

The club are also ready to make Alexis Sanchez and Mesut Ozil the highest paid players in their history although no agreement has yet been reached on new contracts.

Ozil and Sanchez would almost certainly be kept for at least one more season even if they refuse contract offers this summer, although Bayern Munich are interested in Sanchez.


LINK (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/27/arsenal-fans-plan-their-own-referendum-on-arsene-wenger/)

[Shaun]

A touch embarrassing really.

[GiRTh]

He had an approval rating of 17% the year before the FA cup runs. Kind of shows this has been brewing for a while

Will he buy big? I very much doubt it. Granit Xhaka will probably cost about 35 million plus. Cant see Wenger paying that much for a player who not a household name. I can barely pronounce his name.

We've got to make sure Ozil and Sanchez dont leave as I think we'll be a mid table club without them.

[GiRTh]

Arsene Wenger blames fans for costing Arsenal the Premier League title due to 'difficult climate' at the Emirates (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/arsene-wenger-blames-fans-for-costing-arsenal-the-premier-league-title-due-to-difficult-climate-at-a7006291.html)

Lets take the Swansea game at home for instance. So the defeat was not due to the Swansea assistant manager bringing on Gylfi Sigurðsson at half time and Arsenal taking too long to react? No the defeat was cus the fans didnt give the team enough support. :facepalm:

And people wonder why the fans have had enough of him. He clearly has no respect for them,. He should be apologizing for some of the performances this season not blame the fans.

I think the Wenger out brigade just got a lot stronger today.

[Drew.]

The man will never take responsibility for anything, everything that happens is always someone elses fault. You don't hear him come out admitting to the wrong tactics or getting something wrong thats cost us a defeat, its either the referees fault or Alans up in row Z for booing.

This just tops it all though. Turning on the clubs own fans accusing them of being at fault for home losses and saying if it was based on away wins we'd win the league.. i can't believe how deluded he is. I don't care how you look at it, he's causing a huge divide between the fans where things are so hostile fights are breaking out. We're generally in such a bad state and most of its down to him.

[GiRTh]

The man will never take responsibility for anything, everything that happens is always someone elses fault. You don't hear him come out admitting to the wrong tactics or getting something wrong thats cost us a defeat, its either the referees fault or Alans up in row Z for booing.

This just tops it all though. Turning on the clubs own fans accusing them of being at fault for home losses and saying if it was based on away wins we'd win the league.. i can't believe how deluded he is. I don't care how you look at it, he's causing a huge divide between the fans where things are so hostile fights are breaking out. We're generally in such a bad state and most of its down to him.:joker:

Or the fixture pile up or the fact we cant spend 100 million in a transfer window or *insert one of the many excuses over the years*. He's running out of excuses.

[GiRTh]

Theo Walcott left out of Euro 2016 squad: A career unfulfilled? (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12016/10284382/theo-walcott-left-out-of-euro-2016-squad-a-career-unfulfilled)

[alex_front2]

Theo Walcott never justified the 2006 WC hype @16. He's bang average but 10 years ago "good for his age" but has regressed. He's been overtaken by St least 14 other EPL players and is not worth his wage.

[GiRTh]

Arsenal to sign Granit Xhaka as midfielder heads to London for final transfer talks (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/20/arsenal-to-sign-granit-xhaka-as-midfielder-heads-to-london-to-co/)

Its getting closer and closer. Hope this is done by the time the Euros start.

[Shaun]

An actual bloody signing. I am slain.

[Brother Leon]

Good signing. If the Kante rumours are true then you guys are doing a madness.

[GiRTh]

Theo Walcott never justified the 2006 WC hype @16. He's bang average but 10 years ago "good for his age" but has regressed. He's been overtaken by St least 14 other EPL players and is not worth his wage.He's on more than World cup winner Mertesacker and champions league winner Petr Cech. I'm not sure there can ever be a scenario where Theo Walcott earns more money for playing football than Petr Cech but the truth is Arsenal, for some reason, have decided he's worth more. He certainly doesn't play like he's got that responsibility on his shoulders.

[GiRTh]

Good signing. If the Kante rumours are true then you guys are doing a madness.What are these rumours? We;re linked with him but that means nothing at Arsenal.

[Shaun]

Yeah I'm of the feeling that Leicester will hold on to basically everyone this summer aside from maybe Ulloa. Have no need to sell, they must be minted now.

[Drew.]

Chuffed with Xhaka, any fan of any club would have been happy with him.. an absolute monster and leader which is what we've needed.

He'd be the perfect example of a top player we've been in for only for another big club to come in and sign him because of Arsenes stubbornness to pay the asking price. This is more like the Arsene i like, seems like hes not holding back for what could be his final year

[GiRTh]

I'm excited about this signing for sure. I agree with Drew this is the type of player we have been linked with only for it to fall down for mysterious reasons. Hearing conflicting reports that Wenger upped his bid to meet the asking price while other reports claim he put in his usual piss taking bid but the player wanted to play for us. Just seen a tweet saying he's getting the number 34 shirt so its looking good atm.

Hope we get Morata too but looking at his stats he's doesnt look like a prolific goal scorer. TBH I dont care just as long as we have more options up front.

[Drew.]

Yeah i'd love Morata as well. His goals/assists to apps doesn't look all that impressive but taking into account he's a sub and subbed a lot he gets a goal/assist every 100 or so minutes which is very good. He's a great player who will only improve, just needs to be the main guy at a club not playing 2nd fiddle

[GiRTh]

Grading Arsene Wenger on Arsenal's 2015/16 Premier League Season


The 2015/16 Premier League season was a strange one for Arsenal.

The Gunners finished second in the table—their highest final position since 2005. They also enjoyed the final-day flourish of leapfrogging rivals Tottenham Hotspur to ensure they finished above them for a 20th consecutive year.

However, this remained a season primarily of disappointment—and for that, manager Arsene Wenger must shoulder much of the blame.

The problems stem back to last summer. Encouraged by another FA Cup victory and some strong league form in the second half of the 2014/15 campaign, Wenger chose to enter the new season without a single outfield signing.

The one senior addition he did make, Petr Cech, has certainly been justified. The former Chelsea goalkeeper ended the season with 16 clean sheets—the highest number in the Premier League. However, his success also serves as a frustrating illustration of the impact further signings might have made.

With fitness doubts over the likes of Jack Wilshere and Mikel Arteta, a central midfielder ought to have been a priority. Mohamed Elneny arrived in January, but he was only deemed ready for the Premier League in March.

Had the Egyptian been with the squad all season, perhaps the Gunners would have avoided having to field the substandard Mathieu Flamini in 16 Premier League games.

A new striker would also have been helpful, especially given the fact that Danny Welbeck was known to be carrying a knee cartilage problem.

Wenger’s performance problems extended beyond the transfer market. The Arsenal boss suffered with tactical issues throughout the season.

The main problem seemed to be that this Arsenal side played without any discernible style. For all the justifiable criticisms of Wenger's teams through the years—that they've been prone to over-complication and can be defensively vulnerable—they have at least always showcased a certain swagger.

That was not the case in 2015/16. Arsenal were not a particularly entertaining side to watch, and given that they have the likes of Alexis Sanchez and Mesut Ozil in their ranks, that’s difficult to understand.

Arsenal fans grew increasingly frustrated at paying exorbitant prices to watch disappointing football.

The players seemed to lack motivation as well as organisation. Sometimes, such as in March’s 3-2 defeat at Old Trafford, they seemed to sleepwalk to their fate.

There is a mounting suspicion that Arsenal have grown stale under Wenger, and at times in this season he seemed powerless to bring the best out of his players. The most damning criticism of his management last season is that the Gunners regularly looked less than the sum of their parts.

In mitigation, Wenger did at least manage to pull together a nine-match unbeaten run that allowed them to overhaul Tottenham.

It’s also worth pointing out that in a season where Chelsea, Manchester United and Liverpool all failed to make the top four, Wenger extended his remarkable record of qualifying for the Champions League for 19 straight years in succession.

However, his team still finished 10 points behind Leicester. Claudio Ranieri’s men produced an extraordinary campaign, but their resources don’t compare to those of Arsenal.

In a season when so many of the top clubs fell by the wayside, Arsenal should have had a relatively clear march to the title. Instead, they stumbled.

Wenger will know that with just one year remaining on his Arsenal contract, he may not get a better opportunity to reclaim the Premier League title.

Grade: C

Like most people at Arsenal, Wenger underperformed this season. If he wishes to remain at the helm and sign a new deal next summer, he must raise his game significantly in 2016/17.



LINK (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2641102-grading-arsene-wenger-on-arsenals-201516-premier-league-season)

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[Drew.]

New home kit and possibly Xhaka announced tomorrow with it

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[Shaun]

Is the transfer window even open yet

Bloody fifa games tricking me into thinking it opened June 1

[GiRTh]

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Robbie reckons he spoke to Gazidis and he said he was disappointed in our season and is promising signings. :dance:

[Shaun]

I'm slightly more hopeful for Morata now but not as much as I was for Benzema and look how that turned out :worry:

[GiRTh]

We cant go into next season with just Giroud and Walcott up front. Those two will get any manager the sack.

[GiRTh]

Arsenal transfer news: Gunners face Hector Bellerin battle with Barcelona as Dani Alves nears Juventus move (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/arsenal-transfer-news-gunners-face-hector-bellerin-battle-with-barcelona-as-dani-alves-nears-a7051976.html)

This isnt good news. He's one of our lowest paid players in the first team so Barca would look good at this point in his career.

[Drew.]

Usually i'd be really concerned, especially after what happened with Cesc. But Bellerin has no desire to leave, he's said his family's in London and his life is over here now. Barca are twats when it comes to getting their own way though..

[GiRTh]

There was a poll on he Barca website asking the fans who they'd like as their next full back and Bellerin won. They'll get him eventually IMO and remember he came from Barca when he was a kid so he can argue he's actually going home if he leaves. We better make sure we give him a contract thats gonna give him the intensive to stay.

[Shaun]

nothing appealing about Barca whatsoever, they don't even make a game of trying to qualify for the CL every year

[GiRTh]

nothing appealing about Barca whatsoever, they don't even make a game of trying to qualify for the CL every year:joker:

[GiRTh]

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More Arsenal transfer rumours. Aubameyang would be perfect but would cost a fortune.

I'd be happy with any of these defenders and of course sort out Bellerins contract.

[GiRTh]

DA0fv25xlU8The Vardy deal looks like it it may happen. Even Giroud is saying he's gonna join Arsenal.

[Shaun]

Yeah generally speaking once it's been top story on BBC Sport, it's been tweeted by Ornstein, and our players are talking about it, it's 100% happening :laugh:

[Cherie]

Shame he didn't stick with Leicester to see if they could at least replicate top 4, can't blame him for making a money move I guess.

[Drew.]

Shame he didn't stick with Leicester to see if they could at least replicate top 4, can't blame him for making a money move I guess.

It's not even a money move, he's already been offered an improved contract at Leicester. Can't fault his ambitions wanting to join a bigger club

[Drew.]

But yeah, this summers window is going to be looong. So many rumours and it actually looks like we're actively perusing a number of players

[GiRTh]

Yeah generally speaking once it's been top story on BBC Sport, it's been tweeted by Ornstein, and our players are talking about it, it's 100% happening :laugh::joker:

[GiRTh]

Arsenal: Theo Walcott The Symbol Of Failed Era



Arsenal began life under Arsene Wenger with so many trophies, but the drought is more alive than ever now. Nobody embodies this era like Theo Walcott.

Arsene Wenger was a breath of fresh air when he came to Arsenal. Despite being a hotly-contested appointment, it was clear that the innovations that the Frenchman brought were beyond what the Premier League was used to. These innovations changed player’s diets, changed training methods and brought about a new wave of information.

From the start, Wenger had a knowledge of the foreign transfer market that no one else had. It allowed him to sign Thierry Henry and Patrick Vieira, the crowned jewels of the Wenger era, with almost zero competition. Nobody knew about them. The Premier League was heavily English, so add in a foreign coach with knowledge of foreign players and he has his pick of the litter.

However, in an age of technology and information sharing, it was not going to last forever. Turning Thierry Henry from a speedy winger to the greatest striker in England was a one-off kind of thing. Wenger would not be able to find a deal like that ever again because now, every team in England was monitoring every inch of the transfer market.

But Wenger tired to replicate that success and he is still trying to.

The man that was supposed to be the next Henry was Theo Walcott, a speedy winger from Southampton that was faster than Henry and scored as young as Henry. However, the game had changed, and Arsene Wenger hadn’t. Walcott picked up so many injuries and could not break into Arsenal’s striker position.

But Wenger stuck to the guns that got him where he was at Arsenal. In spite of the game changing and the physicality increasing, Walcott was pushed to striker, where he, like so many of Arsenal’s other strikers, have been hit or miss, with the majority being miss.

To put it simply, what once worked for Wenger at Arsenal has been figured out, but Wenger will not change his ways. This past decade may have been dominated by debt, but it has also been dominated by Wenger attempting to pull the same tricks that he did when they worked. Only they haven’t worked in a decade.

The transfer market is a highly competitive arena now, one that Wenger shirks in favor of slick signings like Theo Walcott. Only slick signings like Theo Walcott are no longer turning out to be Thierry Henry’s, they are turning out to be… well, Theo Walcott’s.

Then, in spite of all of it, Walcott gets an Arsenal extension for three years of good play in a decade of injuries and inconsistency.

What better to depict Arsene Wenger’s fall from dominance than Theo Walcott’s tragic tale? This may be referred to as the drought era, but it should be referred to as the Theo Walcott era. Wenger has been clinging to these past principles as if they are still some great secret.

Don’t get me wrong. This has been rather scathing against Theo Walcott, but I do not hold it against him. He has been a fan favorite for good reason and he loves the club. But given his injuries, struggles and inconsistencies, he is the trophy of the era, whereas Henry was the trophy of the last.

There is talk that Arsenal can still sell Theo Walcott to Liverpool. This is an interesting proposition because, as is, the Englishman has little relevance on the club. But as another token of the era, Wenger will hold onto Walcott for much longer than he should. Ironically, that is something he seems to have changed between eras. Whereas last era he was known to sell players off when they had passed their prime, this era is known for his willingness to cling to players past their prime.

For examples, look to Mathieu Flamini, Mikel Arteta, Per Mertesacker. Theo Walcott will be the next. Wenger will always find a way to try to prove himself right. Nobody is in a better position to do that than Theo Walcott.

LINK (http://paininthearsenal.com/2016/03/18/arsenal-theo-walcott-the-symbol-of-failed-era/)

Excellent article. Agree with every word.

Even though I have, at times, led the criticism of Walcott it gave me no pleasure to read this article. Dont get me wrong, I agree with every word and I still think Walcott is a gigantic p*sstaker but its a shame his career is going down this path and more and more people are assessing him as a failure.

[GiRTh]

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Mess of a vid. Made even worse by the idiot Arsenal fans in the comments saying they dont rate Lukaku. Dont these guys realise we aint getting Lukaku, we aint getting anybody.

[GiRTh]

Are the Arsenal fans on the forum surprised to hear that at this point we have made fewer signing than Man U, Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea?

Its the same old story again guys. Only this time I dont see a place for us in the top four next season.

[Drew.]

I mean, technically the window has only been open a day and we've made one of the signings of the summer so far & clubs around us haven't made any signings i'm actually worried of yet. For once i believe Arsene will sign more players, i don't even think he believes he can continue with the exact same squad as last year.

Somtimes you need to wait for a big signing elsewhere to happen before the domino effect takes place.. like we saw when Bale moved to Madrid it opened the door for a signing to leave. If we still haven't made progress at the end of the month then i'll be more concerned

[alex_front2]

The Daley Blind rumours are typical, he's the nicey wicey player wet wimpy player Wenger loves.

[GiRTh]

I mean, technically the window has only been open a day and we've made one of the signings of the summer so far & clubs around us haven't made any signings i'm actually worried of yet. For once i believe Arsene will sign more players, i don't even think he believes he can continue with the exact same squad as last year.

Somtimes you need to wait for a big signing elsewhere to happen before the domino effect takes place.. like we saw when Bale moved to Madrid it opened the door for a signing to leave. If we still haven't made progress at the end of the month then i'll be more concernedWengers stubbornness will never surprise me so I DO think he believes he only needs Xhaka. Last year he though the only needed Cech. Make no mistake Wenger loves these players or else he'd have realkised that in terms of character, ability to perform under pressure they have shown him time and time and time again they dont have those attributes.

It absolutely would not surprise me if we dont sign anyone before the start of the season. Palace outbid us for Batshuayi and we simply dropped out. If we want thim then why did we drop out? Wenger is p*ssing about in the transfer market again and I dont see any major singing before the start of the season. If we have a bad result in August then maybe that will spring him into action but all I can see at the moment is our manager p*ssing about in the transfer windows as he usually does.

And if he goes with only Giroud and Walcott again, two players who would get any manager the sack, then I will not have any sympathy when they get him the sack.

[GiRTh]

The Daley Blind rumours are typical, he's the nicey wicey player wet wimpy player Wenger loves.We wont even sign him either.

[Drew.]

Wengers stubbornness will never surprise me so I DO think he believes he only needs Xhaka. Last year he though the only needed Cech. Make no mistake Wenger loves these players or else he'd have realkised that in terms of character, ability to perform under pressure they have shown him time and time and time again they dont have those attributes.

It absolutely would not surprise me if we dont sign anyone before the start of the season. Palace outbid us for Batshuayi and we simply dropped out. If we want thim then why did we drop out? Wenger is p*ssing about in the transfer market again and I dont see any major singing before the start of the season. If we have a bad result in August then maybe that will spring him into action but all I can see at the moment is our manager p*ssing about in the transfer windows as he usually does.

And if he goes with only Giroud and Walcott again, two players who would get any manager the sack, then I will not have any sympathy when they get him the sack.

Don't get me wrong, it wouldn't surprise me if we didn't make anymore signings with his reputation in the transfer market, but attempting to sign a striker already is a sign he's in the market for players. Hes trusted Giroud for years now and it's got us nowhere, however stubborn you are there has to be a point where you admit defeat and try out a different method. This is likely to be his last year, he will know he's not going to leave a winner unless he makes improvements. I guess i'm just feeling more positive this year after the arrival of Xhaka already

As for Batshuayi, Chelsea would have constantly outbid us anyway so i'm not too bothered with that. Lacazette and Morata are still out there, lets just see what happens

[GiRTh]

Don't get me wrong, it wouldn't surprise me if we didn't make anymore signings with his reputation in the transfer market, but attempting to sign a striker already is a sign he's in the market for players. Hes trusted Giroud for years now and it's got us nowhere, however stubborn you are there has to be a point where you admit defeat and try out a different method. This is likely to be his last year, he will know he's not going to leave a winner unless he makes improvements. I guess i'm just feeling more positive this year after the arrival of Xhaka already

As for Batshuayi, Chelsea would have constantly outbid us anyway so i'm not too bothered with that. Lacazette and Morata are still out there, lets just see what happensLacazette is a possibility but again he seems like he's p*ssing about and is not serious with his bids./ We have not even been properly linked with him yet.. Morata? No chance if Real put a silly price on his head. The Batshuayi bid was typical Wenger and showed me that he may not be looking as hard for a striker as he should. We should have at least given the player a difficult choice to make but instead he just drops out like he never wanted him in the first place. Maybe you are right and Chelsea would have outbid us again but to be outbid by palace and to make no further bid was Wenger all over and it gave me the feeling that he's happy with what he's got and doesnt realise those players are gonna get him the sack

[Drew.]

I told you to keep the faith Girth! Takuma > Lacazette

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[GiRTh]

:joker:

I kept the faith, the faith that Wenger is up to his old tricks again. :pipe:

[Shaun]

The title is basically ours

[GiRTh]

Now Giroud has a shot at being top scorer at the Euros we defnitely wont be buying a striker. smh.

[GiRTh]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36774864

Thierry Herny leaves his role as coach.

Very saddened to see this. I think this is a bit spiteful of Wenger. Henrys role was hardly the most demanding and surely having his insight alone should be enough, but once again thats not how Wegner wants to do it.

Also, see Spurs have signed a striker. From his stats he looks good but looking at some vids he aint scoring those goals in the Premiership., I thought it was nearly impossible to sign good strikers these days. Spurs manager just gets on with it while Arsenals manager is always full of excuses.

[Shaun]

Obviously not the most proWenger but it only makes sense to me that a member of the coaching staff shouldn't be in a position where they have to criticise an Arsenal performance for Sky Sports.

The Higuain rumours are...idk... the price floating around (£80-90m) is absurd and I would rather we paid just over half of it for Morata.

[GiRTh]

Obviously not the most proWenger but it only makes sense to me that a member of the coaching staff shouldn't be in a position where they have to criticise an Arsenal performance for Sky Sports.

The Higuain rumours are...idk... the price floating around (£80-90m) is absurd and I would rather we paid just over half of it for Morata. As I say just Henry's insight should be eough to keep him around but thats clearly not what the manager wants.

[Shaun]

I've heard that Tony Adams is being lined up to replace him and in all honesty I think I'd value a little more steel in the team under his tuition than some "je ne sais quoi" :laugh:

[GiRTh]

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/07/12/arsenal-fans-react-on-twitter-as-tottenham-announce-vincent-jans/

Arsenals fans furious that Spurs have signed Eredivise top scorer. Apparently we were linked with him just a few months ago. :facepalm:

Not at all surprising with our manager doing his usual p*ssing about in the transfer market.

I now think this could be Wengers last season at Arsenal. If he goes with the same lot as last year they will get him sacked.

[GiRTh]

Walcott to start season as Arsenal striker? (http://www.football365.com/news/walcott-to-start-season-as-arsenal-striker)

:facepalm:

[GiRTh]

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Good game for a pre-season friendly. Holding looked very good, Bielik looked a bit out of his depth but I have to question what is on Theo Walcotts mind; he had a stinker. Is he on his way out? He looked like he wasnt bothered at all..

[Shaun]

forget van persie, rangers can have him instead

[Novo]

1-1 when Gedi came on and then you went onto win 2-1

The Gedi Effect is taking Arsenal by storm already

[GiRTh]

Arsenal: Jack Wilshere Could Become Next Walcott (http://paininthearsenal.com/2016/07/29/arsenal-jack-wilshere-could-become-next-walcott/)

[GiRTh]

Zlatan scores overhead kick in pre-season friendly just days after Theo Walcott looks like his usual pile of dogsh*t in pre-season friendly. To think we were offered Zlatan and the manager turned it down. Well done Wenger, fascinating season ahead at Arsenal. :thumbs:

[GiRTh]

Ox scored another great goal in pre-season, he looks fresh and sharp. Walcott, oh dear, three games up front no goals, taking terrible free kicks, wasteful finishing and he frankly doesn't look interested. He must be on his way out cuz I cannot see Wenger thinking this guy will start up front for us in the first few games. Akpom looks good though but surely we cant be looking to a 20 year old to lead the line.

[Shaun]

"Ox looking fresh and sharp in pre-season" has a funny familiar ring to it :laugh:

Hope the stories about stepping up the bid for Laca are true.

[GiRTh]

Wilshire ruled out of Scandinavia tour due to injury. You really cant make this stuff up :joker:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10522720/arsenal-midfielder-jack-wilshere-to-miss-scandinavia-tour-with-knee-injury

[Drew.]

The mans finally spoken. Seems as if Mustafi and probably Lacazette are the priorities although i can't see them paying the money for Laca. Would be satisfied with both

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[GiRTh]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/premierleague/1562192/arsene-wenger-says-arsenals-lack-of-signings-is-down-to-unsuitable-players-not-money/

Wengers says lack of signing is not due lack of money but due to unsuitable players. I know this is only in the Sun but if he said this he's lost the plot cuz that is frankly bullsh*t. First Gazidis now Wenger has pretty much confirmed there will be no more signings this window - unless of course we suffer a heavy defeat before the end of the window; you watch him spring into action if that happens.

Sad but I'm more looking forward to seeing what Pep and Mourinho do at City and United than I am with our season; I can pretty much predict how our season will go. :bored:

[GiRTh]

Arsene Wenger says Theo Walcott's future is as a striker (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10526665/arsene-wenger-says-theo-walcotts-future-is-as-a-striker)

Definitely no striker coming in this transfer window.

Twenty - ******ing - seven and we still dont know what his best position. According to the player he now think he's a winger after years of telling us he wants to play down the middle.

Arsenal's Theo Walcott determined to prove himself as a winger (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10520998/arsenals-theo-walcott-determined-to-prove-himself-as-a-winger)

Mess. Dump him, dont hesitate and dont look back. :bored:

[Shaun]

I see Aaron has already got bored of his blond era

[GiRTh]

Great player Walcott. Always rated him :joker:

[Shaun]

LOL

Another season it is. Let's hope Danny recovers quickly I guess.

[GiRTh]

Typical. Now our only centre back looks like he's got a bad injury. :bored:

[GiRTh]

Gabriel looks like knee ligaments so may be out for a while. Trying not to be cruel but he got completely lost for City's 2nd goal so maybe this is what was needed for Wenger to see we need another centre back.

[Drew.]

Gabriel will be out for ages, it's inevitable. Holding and Chambers starting against Liverpool it is then

[GiRTh]

Gabriel: Arsenal defender out for up to eight weeks with ankle injury (https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-b&q=gabriel+out+for+weeks&oq=gabriel+out+for+weeks&gs_l=serp.12..30i10.6923.6923.0.10202.1.1.0.0.0.0. 114.114.0j1.1.0....0...1c..64.serp..0.1.112.tdcUVs ckwQk)

Thank God its not knee ligaments and he's out for a year.

[GiRTh]

Jose Mourinho takes swipe at Arsene Wenger and Jurgen Klopp - 'Arsenal and Liverpool not big enough to sign a Paul Pogba' (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/09/jose-mourinho-man-utd-paul-pogba-transfer-arsenal-wenger/)

I must be one of the only Arsenal fans who likes Jose and I totally agree with him here. A few fans from ArsenalFAnTV tried to calculate how much Arsenal have to spend on transfers and they reckon Arsenal must have had at least 90 million this summer. Arsenal have the money to make their own big signings so why the manager doesn't is a mystery to all IMO he's a bit of a k**nt to make comments on big signings made by other clubs. I hope to GOD this is his last season. I really am getting sick of Wenger.

[Brother Leon]

Wenger and Klopp's comments are stupid. Both would sell their grandma to bring Pogba to their club, but they either can't afford him or he wouldn't be interested. Just comes across as bitter.

[GiRTh]

Wenger and Klopp's comments are stupid. Both would sell their grandma to bring Pogba to their club, but they either can't afford him or he wouldn't be interested. Just comes across as bitter.Klopp possibly doesn't have the money to buy a 60+ million pound player but Wenger definitely does have that kind of money. So why the hell he doesnt make his own big signings is the mystery.

[Drew.]

Yeah, we could afford pretty much any player we wanted, the moneys definitely there and theres proof of it which is the most frustrating thing.

Arsene just straight up won't spend it, he always says to treat the money like it's his own and i do kind of admire the way he does that and the way he keeps the club in a strong financial position because not many other managers would, but he's done a good job at that and now the moneys there to be spent which he refuses to do, thats the part that pisses me off.

I've been harsh on him in the past and the guy is one of the most frustrating humans on this earth but i'm gonna miss him if this ends up being his final season which is likely

[GiRTh]

Agree Drew. I think the Pogba signing is pushing me very much into the 'Wenger out' team. All we ever hear from him is how difficult it is to get even 10 to 15 million pound deals done yet Man U have managed to get a whopping 89 million pound deal done. Imagine the details and intricacies of such a deal yet our team could not even get a 10 million pound bid for Wassim Ben Yedder over the line. Frustrating is too mild a word; I'm ******ing pissed off with the manager.

Also, Wenger needs to watch it. It has been noted and discussed by Arsenal fans that our players did well in Euros while playing under different managers in slightly different systems. Ramsey being the main one. I'd argue he was the Premierships best player in the Euros -better than Payet - playing as a number ten a position he rarely plays for Arsenal. I'd argue he was better than OZil in that position and Ozil undoubtedly has better players around him in the Germany team. Having said that watch Wenger play him as a winger or holding mid. Crazy

Giroud is another. I'm no Giroud fan and I dont think he played all that well during the Euros but he linked up brilliantly with Griessmann. Does Giroud need a partner? Should Wenger play with two strikers? Its something to try but I'm pretty much certain Giroud aint getting a partner and Wenger aint playing with two strikers. Also look at the goals he scored. One where he 'outpaced' the Icelandic defender :joker: but the other two were both high balls into the box for the big man to get on the end of. Not balls whipped in at pace but high kind of hopeful balls where he out jumped everyone and scored. No one on the planet can tell me that is how Arsene Wenger wants to play football.

So in a few months time when both these very players are faltering, we need to ask is the problem with them or with the manager, given how well they both did in the Euros.

[GiRTh]

The comeback probably gave Wenger too many positives when in reality there werent many. Good goals from Walcott and OX but the other a clear Liverpool mistake. Not sure if 4-2 is as big an embarrasment for Wenger to go into the transfer market. Leicester away next week, they need a win as much as us. Its already a big game for us.

[GiRTh]

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Preach it DT. :clap1:

Agree with what he says about Rob Holding at about 5 minutes in. If Holding starts looking shaky its not his fault. The manager cant just drop him straight into games like this against teams like Liverpool. He needs time to get used to the premiership.

ArsenalFanTV is gonna be brilliant tonight. :joker:

[Brother Leon]

ArsenalFanTV and Chill with the Arsenal supporting girlfriend tonight...good time to be alive :laugh:

[Brother Leon]

Ashley Williams was available for £10m...:

[GiRTh]

Ashley Williams was available for £10m...:Too old at 31. Wenger likes teenagers so he can sell them when they're 21 - 23.

Dont forget, Zlatan was offered to us on a free but Wenger didnt want him. Can anyone work that out? :shrug:

[GiRTh]

JcRHaQcLcW4

Love this guy they should have him on more often. That stat about Vermaelen is amazing :shocked:

[Brother Leon]

Too old at 31. Wenger likes teenagers so he can sell them when they're 21 - 23.

Dont forget, Zlatan was offered to us on a free but Wenger didnt want him. Can anyone work that out? :shrug:

Doubt he would have joined you anyway. He was hell bent on playing for Mourinho. No excuse on Williams though. You need that leadership.

[GiRTh]

Doubt he would have joined you anyway. He was hell bent on playing for Mourinho. No excuse on Williams though. You need that leadership.We'd have got him if we'd have offered high wages but as soon as it was announced many fans knew it was never gonna happen. He's too experienced, too knowledgable, too outspoken for Wenger. Zlatan know more about winning at the highest level than Wenger and that alone was enough to know the deal was never gonna happen.

[GiRTh]

Wenger: A coward who throws players under the bus (http://www.football365.com/news/wenger-a-coward-who-throws-players-under-the-bus)

Damning article on Wenger and his stupid comments in the presser after the Liverpool game. Agree with the sentiment but its a bit strong even for me.

[empire]

the reason why arsenal have not played right in the last few years is that there is a lack of english born players in the EPL, wenger could buy a player at 100 million who is italian but what does this player lack, english league experience, other teams have brought in players and spent over 80 million, but there big mistake is they bought players who played in leagues that are not on the same tough level as the EPL, you could get rid of wenger, but you need players who can play in this tough league, arsenal are just throwing good money down the drain, for players who can't play in are league.

[GiRTh]

Wenger: Why buy a striker? We have Akpom and Sanogo (http://www.football365.com/news/wenger-why-buy-a-striker-we-have-akpom-and-sanogo)

Its official. We're ******ed. :facepalm:

[Alf]

Going down, going down, going down
Going down, going down, going down
Going down, going down, going down
Going down
Going down




Boring, boring Arsenal

[GiRTh]

3boANTlVIy0

Strange to see John Cross tear into Wenger, he is usually very supportive of Arsene but even he is questioning Wengers attitude in the transfer market. Some of the stuff said about Wenger in this vid is quite well know ie that he dither, he hates the transfer window and he's always looking for the best deal. Everyone looks like they're wise to how he operates so now when he comes in with his too low p*ss taking bid the clubs simply up the price showing they have no respect for Wengers one man crusade against inflated prices. Its clear to see why Arsenal struggle to make transfers and once again it can be traced back to Arsene Wengers stubbornness.