My views on the Lee Rigby case

[Jamie.]

As we all know, a few weeks ago saw the disgusting execution of Drummer Lee Rigby, a British soldier who was murdered in broad daylight in front of many people. The man who did it recently was charged with murder...

But here is my point of view.

The many who killed him (Michael Abadawale) should have been charged with treason, many people have said it, it should have been treason. For about a week, our money was used to treat a terrorist in the London hospital, and now the Government are going to pay to keep him in prison on a murder charge.

From what I understand, a man and his family (a hate preacher) was taken into hiding a few days ago after threats by group 'Britain First', apparently they said they would "take him out".

They should be deported, not taken into hiding. The children are going to be clueless as to why they are out of school, and their mum will have to explain to them that their father is a racist hate preacher.

It is disgusting knowing our Government are sitting on their arses while Britain have to defend ourselves. I say get this Government out and get UKiP in.

I am sorry if this comes across as racist to anyone, it's not intentional.

Thank you.

[Nedusa]

Treason in this Country still carries the Death penalty...!!!

[arista]

Why Another Thread
we have a Good Thread on this?

[Apple202]

Treason in this Country still carries the Death penalty...!!!

Really?

[AnnieK]

Really?

Yeah and up till 1998, killing a swan was classed as treason so you could be hanged for killing a swan but not a child (obviously would never have happened but it Could have done)

[Apple202]

I thought all capital punishment was abolished in 1998 here tho :conf:

[AnnieK]

You're right Apple, I thought it was still in effect for High Treason but it's not. Thank you...you learn something new everyday. :laugh:

[joeysteele]

No there is no death penalty as others have said for anything now in the UK.

I still am rather angry at this horrific murder which has been strongly debated on the other thread.
I guess to a good number of people,many I have talked to too, the cost of a trial for these individuals seems a waste of money since so much was caught on phone film footage.

I know of course the law has to take its slow course but at the end of it, I expect to see and hope so too that these 2 murderers/terrorists are put away for the rest of their lives.
Full life imprisonment however does seem too easy for these 2 men in my view.

[Nedusa]

But bringing back the death penalty in the UK would not take long as it is still on the statute books and was never properly abolished. One vote in the HOC and HOL and it would be back....!!!!

Very unlikely though....!!!!

[Nedusa]

Only if we left the Council of Europe could the UK vote to bring back the Death penalty so
it is truly abolished now at this time....!!!!

[Z]

You have to understand that the men who murdered Lee Rigby did so because of their strong beliefs. Britain has meddled in many different countries, the military being the primary source for Britain to get involved in other countries' affairs. As British people, it's very easy to forget that there are troops fighting wars and keeping peace in other countries because we do not feel the threat of war. When we experience isolated incidents like this, we're all outraged, but imagine what that must feel like if you live in a country where things like this happen every day; it must be very easy to believe that it is the fault of the British, the Americans, the West, whether rightly or wrongly, and so I don't think it's surprising that there are reprisals such as this one in this country. What they did to Lee Rigby was barbaric and wrong, but to their minds, what British troops are doing is barbaric and wrong. People have very reactionary responses to things like this and people become blind to the reasons behind why their 'enemy' did certain things...

[Shaun]

Treason is a ridiculous concept and I refuse to find anyone guilty of it. I think the royal family is a waste of space. There, treason. Kill me.

[joeysteele]

Treason is a ridiculous concept and I refuse to find anyone guilty of it. I think the royal family is a waste of space. There, treason. Kill me.

Well Shaun, I would call myself a Royalist but if I see and hear much more of this diamond jubilee for this Queen's reign,when there are so many awful things happening to her subjects at the hands of Govt and then from others in the UK like what happened to Lee Rigby,I think I will start swearing at the TV and radio.
It is time we heard far more from her as to to the suffering of her subjects rather than endlessly attending Cathedrals and functions and sitting there soaking up all this personal glorification of herself.

A few hundred years ago,I would likely have been executed for saying that I guess.

[smeagol]

You have to understand that the men who murdered Lee Rigby did so because of their strong beliefs. Britain has meddled in many different countries, the military being the primary source for Britain to get involved in other countries' affairs. As British people, it's very easy to forget that there are troops fighting wars and keeping peace in other countries because we do not feel the threat of war. When we experience isolated incidents like this, we're all outraged, but imagine what that must feel like if you live in a country where things like this happen every day; it must be very easy to believe that it is the fault of the British, the Americans, the West, whether rightly or wrongly, and so I don't think it's surprising that there are reprisals such as this one in this country. What they did to Lee Rigby was barbaric and wrong, but to their minds, what British troops are doing is barbaric and wrong. People have very reactionary responses to things like this and people become blind to the reasons behind why their 'enemy' did certain things...

it doesn't matter what reasons they had. for a crime like they committed it should carry the death penalty. the fact they used beliefs as a excuse just makes it worst.
they dont live in a country where it happens every day cause they live here.

[Bluerang1]

Will they even have defendants in court?

[Kizzy]

You have to understand that the men who murdered Lee Rigby did so because of their strong beliefs. Britain has meddled in many different countries, the military being the primary source for Britain to get involved in other countries' affairs. As British people, it's very easy to forget that there are troops fighting wars and keeping peace in other countries because we do not feel the threat of war. When we experience isolated incidents like this, we're all outraged, but imagine what that must feel like if you live in a country where things like this happen every day; it must be very easy to believe that it is the fault of the British, the Americans, the West, whether rightly or wrongly, and so I don't think it's surprising that there are reprisals such as this one in this country. What they did to Lee Rigby was barbaric and wrong, but to their minds, what British troops are doing is barbaric and wrong. People have very reactionary responses to things like this and people become blind to the reasons behind why their 'enemy' did certain things...

The lines become blurred though when the people committing these crimes are British...
The use of the hate cleric is to create an 'enemy within', I can see your point an agree with it though. I always think though that they target the wrong people why the public and the soldiers... why not the decision makers? (not saying anyone should of course)
Everyone else is just swept along with the tide of what the people in positions of power dictate, in the grand scheme of things our lives and our deaths count for nothing to them.. Sad but true.

[Marc]

Treason is a ridiculous concept and I refuse to find anyone guilty of it. I think the royal family is a waste of space. There, treason. Kill me.

Bye :sad:

[Me. I Am Salman]

You only want him deported because he's a hate preacher and non white. Let's not forget Islam isn't a race it's a religion, people like you seem to only use this argument when it suits them :rolleyes: He's Britains responsibility like all criminals in this country, whatever the extent of the crime. The EDL are hate preachers too, and I'm pretty sure white British people who have a hatred for this country exist as well.

The government are doing the best they could, they couldn't just leave him to die. And I don't think the government are allowed to have anything to do with the charge.

Anyway you're like 9

[arista]

You only want him deported because he's a hate preacher and non white. Let's not forget Islam isn't a race it's a religion, people like you seem to only use this argument when it suits them :rolleyes: He's Britains responsibility like all criminals in this country, whatever the extent of the crime. The EDL are hate preachers too, and I'm pretty sure white British people who have a hatred for this country exist as well.

The government are doing the best they could, they couldn't just leave him to die. And I don't think the government are allowed to have anything to do with the charge.

Anyway you're like 9


You are just off a Ban
did not take you long to attack someone



Sign Of The Times

[lostalex]

You have to understand that the men who murdered Lee Rigby did so because of their strong beliefs. Britain has meddled in many different countries, the military being the primary source for Britain to get involved in other countries' affairs. As British people, it's very easy to forget that there are troops fighting wars and keeping peace in other countries because we do not feel the threat of war. When we experience isolated incidents like this, we're all outraged, but imagine what that must feel like if you live in a country where things like this happen every day; it must be very easy to believe that it is the fault of the British, the Americans, the West, whether rightly or wrongly, and so I don't think it's surprising that there are reprisals such as this one in this country. What they did to Lee Rigby was barbaric and wrong, but to their minds, what British troops are doing is barbaric and wrong. People have very reactionary responses to things like this and people become blind to the reasons behind why their 'enemy' did certain things...


All of those reasons you are citing could also be applicable to the EDL. If it's understandable for a muslim to blame the west for all of the problems in their countries, then it's just as understandable for the EDL to blame muslims for all of the problems they have caused historically to westerners/christians/jews/homosexuals/women.

The difference is the EDL isn't cutting people's heads off, or setting bombs off in marketplaces or at marathons.

[Nedusa]

Are these guys actually going to plead not Guilty to a crime that was recorded on several CCTV cameras plus witnessed and recorded by many passers by and their phone cameras ??

It would be the shortest trial in history if that's the case.

I think they will probably refuse to plead on political grounds...!!!

[MTVN]

Treason is a ridiculous concept and I refuse to find anyone guilty of it. I think the royal family is a waste of space. There, treason. Kill me.

Agree with this, it's a vague enough charge that it could just be arbitrarily applied against anyone for anything if it was convenient

[lostalex]

What if it was a soldier at a military base who was smuggling weapons off the base and giving them to the enemy and then the enemy was using those weapons to attack that same base. I would call that treason.

[Nedusa]

Yes its treason but regardless of Political persuasion its also theft of weapons and Conspiracy to supply weapons with the intent to commit acts of murder, so regardless of the Treason angle you are still guilty of supply with intent to cause murder/acts of terrorism.

Saying you hate the Queen is not quite the same thing.......!!!!

[Z]

All of those reasons you are citing could also be applicable to the EDL. If it's understandable for a muslim to blame the west for all of the problems in their countries, then it's just as understandable for the EDL to blame muslims for all of the problems they have caused historically to westerners/christians/jews/homosexuals/women.

The difference is the EDL isn't cutting people's heads off, or setting bombs off in marketplaces or at marathons.

I'm talking about recent history. Britain's waded into several conflicts unnecessarily; it's natural for there to be repercussions. I'm absolutely not condoning what they did, I just think the OP in this thread doesn't really take their views into account. The EDL are a racist and volatile, reactionary group who are worsening the situation. The actions of a very small minority do not represent the majority; it'd be like saying the EDL represents all white British people. They don't. The EDL and these men, and those like them, are as bad as each other. Intolerant people with crazy ideas.

[GiRTh]

To OP - Dont agree with a word of your post but when you mentioned UKip, I totally tuned out.

[GiRTh]

I'm talking about recent history. Britain's waded into several conflicts unnecessarily; it's natural for there to be repercussions. I'm absolutely not condoning what they did, I just think the OP in this thread doesn't really take their views into account. The EDL are a racist and volatile, reactionary group who are worsening the situation. The actions of a very small minority do not represent the majority; it'd be like saying the EDL represents all white British people. They don't. The EDL and these men, and those like them, are as bad as each other. Intolerant people with crazy ideas.It wasn't the soldiers who made the decision it was the government. He just did as he was told.

I kind of see you argument but this soldier is as innocent as those caught in the crossfire everyday in Afghanistan, Iraq etc

[Kizzy]

It wasn't the soldiers who made the decision it was the government. He just did as he was told.

I kind of see you argument but this soldier is as innocent as those caught in the crossfire everyday in Afghanistan, Iraq etc

This is entirely my point too, as I said this is shocking due to the randomness of the attack but will it be enough to have an impact on British foreign policy? No.

[Z]

It wasn't the soldiers who made the decision it was the government. He just did as he was told.

I kind of see you argument but this soldier is as innocent as those caught in the crossfire everyday in Afghanistan, Iraq etc

I know, that's what I mean though; soldiers are the muscle for the government and so aggression was taken out on this one particular soldier, even though he himself hadn't done anything to warrant being so violently murdered by complete strangers. These men who committed this crime are deranged and should be punished accordingly, there is no disputing that. I think, though, people are becoming intolerant of Muslims as a group when it's not their fault that there are some mentally unhinged people committing brutal crimes, who happen to be Muslim, saying they're doing it because of their faith. Are the Westboro Baptist Church representative of all Christians? No. I just think there's a decreasing level of tolerance for Islam in the UK and it's because of insane people, not the Islamic religion, causing that.

[lostalex]

I know, that's what I mean though; soldiers are the muscle for the government and so aggression was taken out on this one particular soldier, even though he himself hadn't done anything to warrant being so violently murdered by complete strangers. These men who committed this crime are deranged and should be punished accordingly, there is no disputing that. I think, though, people are becoming intolerant of Muslims as a group when it's not their fault that there are some mentally unhinged people committing brutal crimes, who happen to be Muslim, saying they're doing it because of their faith. Are the Westboro Baptist Church representative of all Christians? No. I just think there's a decreasing level of tolerance for Islam in the UK and it's because of insane people, not the Islamic religion, causing that.

ummm, you're making it sound like it's the EDL that are saying that these "unhinged people" are doing it in the name of Islam... NO, it is those people themselves who themselves say they are doing it because of ISLAM. The EDL isn't making that up.

Why is it that you are willing to listen to them about the fact that they are unhappy about the wars, but when they say they do it because of Islam, then you shut that part out?

They are SPECIFICALLY saying that they do it BECAUSE of ISLAM.

Why arn't you listening to them? You expect us to listen to their message about the wars, and the wrong caused by British troops in Iraq or Afghanistan, but you're not listening to them saying they want to impose the Sharia law on all of the UK. Saying they want to create a WAR on the streets of London.

Why are you picking and choosing which part of their message you listen to?

The Westboro Baptist Church has never killed or physically hurt anyone. So that is a ridiculous comparisson to make. It's ridiculous to compare some nutters with signs to beheading someone in the middle of a street. Westboro baptist church is like Peta protests, nothing at all like ISLAMIC JIHADISTS.

There are plenty of Muslims out on the streets just as crazy as Westboro baptist church saying things against gays, and worse things. And it's fine to criticize westboro baptist church, but when you criticize muslims, ohhh, then yur a racist. well no, you're not. The double standard is sickening.

[GiRTh]

ummm, you're making it sound like it's the EDL that are saying that these "unhinged people" are doing it in the name of Islam... NO, it is those people themselves who themselves say they are doing it because of ISLAM. The EDL isn't making that up.

Why is it that you are willing to listen to them about the fact that they are unhappy about the wars, but when they say they do it because of Islam, then you shut that part out?

They are SPECIFICALLY saying that they do it BECAUSE of ISLAM.

Why arn't you listening to them? You expect us to listen to their message about the wars, and the wrong caused by British troops in Iraq or Afghanistan, but you're not listening to them saying they want to impose the Sharia law on all of the UK. Saying they want to create a WAR on the streets of London.

Why are you picking and choosing which part of their message you listen to?

The Westboro Baptist Church has never killed or physically hurt anyone. So that is a ridiculous comparisson to make. It's ridiculous to compare some nutters with signs to beheading someone in the middle of a street. Westboro baptist church is like Peta protests, nothing at all like ISLAMIC JIHADISTS.:bored:

I think you are the one only listening to what you want to hear.

[Z]

Wah you're so hard to talk to Alex :laugh:

I didn't say that the EDL invented any of these claims, the claims came from those men themselves. The EDL however is an Islamophobic organisation, which in my opinion just adds to the problem that these crazy people have created. They want to get rid of all Islamic people, when it's only a small minority who seemingly hate the UK. I don't understand most of your post though... I'm not shutting anything out? Or if I am, I don't understand what you think I'm ignoring? I don't expect us to listen to their views, that is absolutely not what I am saying at all! I think that we have to understand WHY they did what they did, instead of just blaming all Muslim people for what they did, which is what the EDL are doing, and which is what this thread is hinting at. I'm not listening to their message. I think they're as crazy as everyone else in this thread does. I just think we ought to respond to extreme hate, not with more extreme hate in kind, but understanding at the very least. I used the Westboro Baptist Church as an example of an extremist Christian group. I could have used the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints as an example instead; whose leader was convicted of sexual assault on children. Again, it's not brutal murder, it's just for the example of extremist groups acting in the name of religion. They do not represent everyone of the Christian faith any more than two insane men carving up an innocent soldier declaring war on the UK represent Islam. Crazy people don't respect post codes or faiths, they need to be helped or locked away; but tarring everyone with the same brush because of the actions of a few is wrong, and if you think that that makes me some kind of sympathiser, then that's your prerogative. I just like to try and see both sides to things like this.

[lostalex]

When christians harass gays and talk about women covering up, it's ohh, those close minded bigots. They are so repressed and backwards.

When Muslims do it, the left shuts up, and says "ohh we must respect their faith and their culture".

It's bull****.

[GiRTh]

When christians harass gays and talk about women covering up, it's ohh, those close minded bigots. They are so repressed and backwards.

When Muslims do it, the left shuts up, and says "ohh we must respect their faith and their culture".

It's bull****.That's not true. Burkas are banned in France.

[lostalex]

That's not true. Burkas are banned in France.

Yea, and France also had thousands of people taking to the streets against gay marriage. The idea of France as such enlightened, liberal people should be shattered by now.

[Me. I Am Salman]

You're gay, you should understand what it's like to be part of an oppressed minority. You're a disgrace

[lostalex]

You're gay, you should understand what it's like to be part of an oppressed minority. You're a disgrace

I'm not a disgrace, i'm willing to stand up against the OPRESSORS, MUslims are not an oppressed minority, they are the OPPRESSORS.

Muslims claiming to be oppressed is like Nazis claiming to be oppressed by the jews.

[MTVN]

Oh dear

[GiRTh]

Yea, and France also had thousands of people taking to the streets against gay marriage. The idea of France as such enlightened, liberal people should be shattered by now.I was replying to your inaccurate post. If you want to debate how tolerant the French are then start a thread but in the meantime I was merely pointing out that one of your post contained a/another inaccurate statement.

[lostalex]

I was replying to your inaccurate post. If you want to debate how tolerant the French are then start a thread but in the meantime I was merely pointing out that one of your post contained a/another inaccurate statement.

What are you talking about? what did i say that was inaccurate? stop being so cryptic.

When did i say that France didn't ban the burka? I NEVER said that.

[GiRTh]

I'm not a disgrace, i'm willing to stand up against the OPRESSORS, MUslims are not an oppressed minority, they are the OPPRESSORS.

Muslims claiming to be oppressed is like Nazis claiming to be oppressed by the jews.WTF Cant be arsed to post with such ignorance. :bored:

[lostalex]

WTF Cant be arsed to post with such ignorance. :bored:

Or you can't form an intelligent response...

bye. :xyxwave:

[GiRTh]

When christians harass gays and talk about women covering up, it's ohh, those close minded bigots. They are so repressed and backwards.

When Muslims do it, the left shuts up, and says "ohh we must respect their faith and their culture".

It's bull****.We must respect their faith by banning the Burkha eh?

That is the inaccurate part of your post. Its disheartening that I had to point that out to you. Do you not remember typing that?

RE You last post. Say bye if you want but that does not make you right. Your next post will no doubt contain one or a number of inaccurate sweeping statements.

I asked you the other day how old you were; God know why but I think you thought I was trying to get to know you for social reasons. *LAUGHABLE*. I was trying to get a picture of the level of ignorance I was dealing with here. I would expect someone of your age and sexual orientation to be a little more tolerant but if you're happy with what you post then who am I to argue. :thumbs:

[GiRTh]

Or you can't form an intelligent response...

bye. :xyxwave:Why have you altered this post?

Is it an intelligent to forget what you posted? Stop being insulting please.

[lostalex]

Why have you altered this post?

Is it an intelligent to forget what you posted? Stop being insulting please.

Is it an intelligent to forget? what?

wtf are you on about? :bored:

[GiRTh]

Is it an intelligent to forget? what?

wtf are you on about? :bored:You have the attention span of a fly. :bored:

[lostalex]

We must respect their faith by banning the Burkha eh?

That is the inaccurate part of your post. Its disheartening that I had to point that out to you. Do you not remember typing that?

RE You last post. Say bye if you want but that does not make you right. Your next post will no doubt contain one or a number of inaccurate sweeping statements.

I asked you the other day how old you were; God know why but I think you thought I was trying to get to know you for social reasons. *LAUGHABLE*. I was trying to get a picture of the level of ignorance I was dealing with here. I would expect someone of your age and sexual orientation to be a little more tolerant but if you're happy with what you post then who am I to argue. :thumbs:

I never said that I supported banning the burka. I don't have a problem with the burka any more than I have a problem with those idiots in the guy fawkes masks.

When did I EVER say that I supported a ban on the burka?? please quote me.

as far as you asking my age and you thinking you asked me for social reasons... wtf?? lol wow, you've really got your own little twisted narrative going in your head don't you. Are you trying to say that you thought I was flirting with you or something? What do you mean by "for social reasons"??? lol

You are very deluded if that's what you thought.

[lostalex]

You have the attention span of a fly. :bored:

Stop being insulting please.

[GiRTh]

I never said that I supported banning the burka. I don't have a problem with the burka any more than I have a problem with those idiots in the guy fawkes masks.

When did I EVER say that I supported a ban on the burka?? please quote me.

as far as you asking my age and you thinking you asked me for social reasons... wtf?? lol wow, you've really got your own little twisted narrative going in your head don't you.Oh Jesus!!!!!!

Read thru all the posts, and this time try and understand them.

[lostalex]

Oh Jesus!!!!!!

Read thru all the posts, and this time try and understand them.

So basically once again you said something you can't back up.

You are literally incapable of having a linear conversation.

Here's a clue, when you say something, know what you're talking about, and have proof to back it up. When you accuse someone of something, have evidence. When you find any post i have ever made supporting the banning of the burka, let me know. It's not my job to do your homework for you.

I have never said that i support banning the burka, because i don't.

Feel free to go through every post i've ever made though, if you really do believe that i've ever said that i support banning the burka, go find it, and quote it. It will be a waste of your time though. Cause i've never said that i support banning the burka.

[Livia]

Pack it up you two.

[MTVN]

You have completely missed his point Alex, you said that everyone has a go at Christians for being bigots if they tell women to cover up but

When Muslims do it, the left shuts up, and says "ohh we must respect their faith and their culture".

Girth pointed out that they banned the burkha in France so they are obviously not falling over themselves to respect Muslim's faith like you claimed

He never once said that you personally want the burkha banned

[GiRTh]

So basically once again you said something you can't back up.

You are literally incapable of having a linear conversation.

Here's a clue, when you say something, know what you're talking about, and have proof to back it up. When you accuse someone of something, have evidence. When you find any post i have ever made supporting the banning of the burka, let me know. It's not my job to do your homework for you.

I have never said that i support banning the burka, because i don't.

Feel free to go through every post i've ever made though, if you really do believe that i've ever said that i support banning the burka, go find it, and quote it. It will be a waste of your time though. Cause i've never said that i support banning the burka.Start a tread on whether the Burka should be banned.

[GiRTh]

You have completely missed his point Alex, you said that everyone has a go at Christians for being bigots if they tell women to cover up but



Girth pointed out that they banned the burkha in France so they are obviously not falling over themselves to respect Muslim's faith like you claimed

He never once said that
For a moment there I thought I was typing Chinese or something. Thanks for clearing that up.:thumbs:

[lostalex]

Start a tread on whether the Burka should be banned.

WHY WOULD I DO THAT? I DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT THE BURKA, GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

you are obsessed with the ****ing burka ban, it has NOTHING to do with ME, so why would i start that thread?

You start the ****ing thread if you want to. making a ****ing poll, Ask, do you think the burka should be banned?. I'll vote NO.

FFS.

[GiRTh]

WHY WOULD I DO THAT? I DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT THE BURKA, GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

you are obsessed with the ****ing burka ban, it has NOTHING to do with ME, so why would i start that thread?

You start the ****ing thread if you want to. making a ****ing poll, Ask, do you think the burka should be banned?. I'll vote NO.

FFS.:joker:

[Kizzy]

now now.... :laugh:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

On the news it says that one of the killers said they decided a soldier was a fair person to kill but on the cctv he had normal clothes? how did they know he was a soldier?

[MTVN]

Well it was a pre meditated and planned attack, it wouldn't have been hard to work out from doing a bit of research or just observing him for a while, it was right by the army barracks which he was just leaving or just returning to I think, can't remember which

[joeysteele]

Well it was a pre meditated and planned attack, it wouldn't have been hard to work out from doing a bit of research or just observing him for a while, it was right by the army barracks which he was just leaving or just returning to I think, can't remember which

Yes he was returning to the barracks after some duties he had been doing that day, he had the 'help for heroes' shirt on and also his army rucksack too I believe.

I will wait until the trial is over to say more as to what I think of this maybe,especially as to the trial and them pleading not guilty.
One thing is for sure for me however and that is, were I on such a jury, I wouldn't myself need to even think about what my verdict was going to be.

[Nedusa]

What's this thread about ?? Anyone remember ???

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Killler " i'm doing what allah told me to do!" nope. Allah didn;t tell you nawt. This is why people hate religion because people like him use religion to justify their actions. Leave it bible, religion alone if you're going to do something awful.

[chuff me dizzy]

How was the cowardly scum allowed to plead NOT GIULTY? wtf is this country coming to ?

[arista]

How was the cowardly scum allowed to plead NOT GIULTY? wtf is this country coming to ?


Thats Due to his views
he backs muslims.



He claims His god told him to Drive into that troop.



When he Goes to Prison
I am sure he will get trouble

[arista]

['After I struck the neck, I used another
of the knives I had sharpened to try
and remove the head': 'Killer' of
Lee Rigby describes moment soldier
died as he takes to the witness
stand just feet away from grieving family]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2520719/Killer-Lee-Rigby-describes-moment-Woolwich-soldier-died-takes-witness-stand.html#ixzz2n0wHkxZJ


Link for kizzy
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/09/lee-rigby-murder-accused-adebolajo-religion-is-everything

[Nedusa]

Decapitating defenceless people is part and parcel of these lunatics mode of operation. And the authorities wonder why everyone just can't get along.

Well maybe people are scared of seeing these types of actions, maybe they are actually truly fearful of the murderous savagery being forced into their consciousness .

That these two men could truly believe it was OK to murder this stranger in public in this most brutal of ways is almost beyond belief.

And then to plead not guilty to murder well I don't think the jury will take very long to reach a unanimous verdict.

I just hope they get whole life tariffs although to be honest they will have to work very hard to stay alive in prison. As most hardened prisoners will probably want to dispense their own justice on these two sick gutless cowards, and I only hope the tools of their method of justice involve some very sharp knives.....!!!!!

[Kazanne]

Decapitating defenceless people is part and parcel of these lunatics mode of operation. And the authorities wonder why everyone just can't get along.

Well maybe people are scared of seeing these types of actions, maybe they are actually truly fearful of the murderous savagery being forced into their consciousness .

That these two men could truly believe it was OK to murder this stranger in public in this most brutal of ways is almost beyond belief.

And then to plead not guilty to murder well I don't think the jury will take very long to reach a unanimous verdict.

I just hope they get whole life tariffs although to be honest they will have to work very hard to stay alive in prison. As most hardened prisoners will probably want to dispense their own justice on these two sick gutless cowards, and I only hope the tools of their method of justice involve some very sharp knives.....!!!!!

Not so sharp eh Nedusa,the blunt ones hurt more:hugesmile:

[joeysteele]

What really annoys me is that their 'not guilty' pleas are extending the closure, whatever closure the they can have as to this horrific murder, the family of Lee should have thereby piling on the pressure and pain even longer for them.

My anger is so massive as to this case,I find it really hard and heart wrenching to listen to what we get on the news, what it must be like for Lee's loved ones must be beyond assessment.