How do Atheist feel when Allah said in Quran he turned sinful people into Apes?

[farhad]

"So when they exceeded the bounds of that which they were prohibited We said to them: be apes and they were" (7:166)

: Say: "Shall I point out to you something much worse than this, (as judged) by the treatment it received from Allah? Those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, those of whom He transformed into apes and swine, those who worshipped Evil;― these are (many times) worse in rank and far more astray from the even Path!(5:60)

Do you still consider humans as apes?

[Smithy]

I think the real question is, how excited is everyone for ARTPOP

[Tom4784]

I'm curious about ARTPOP but not overly excited yet.

[Scarlett.]

Well, I cry sometimes, when I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out, what's in my head and I, I feel a little peculiar. So I wake in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high and I scream from the top of my lungs, what's going on?


















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[Jordan.]

I think the real question is, how excited is everyone for ARTPOP

Waiting for that smash single "Apes (Allahs wrath)"

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[DanaC]

"So when they exceeded the bounds of that which they were prohibited We said to them: be apes and they were" (7:166)

: Say: "Shall I point out to you something much worse than this, (as judged) by the treatment it received from Allah? Those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, those of whom He transformed into apes and swine, those who worshipped Evil;― these are (many times) worse in rank and far more astray from the even Path!(5:60)

Do you still consider humans as apes?

Never understood this notion, really. Apes are super intelligent animals and very beautiful creatures. Setting aside the fact that I don't believe in a creator and do believe we evolved from a common ancestor, why turn evil sinners into apes?

[DanaC]

Well, I cry sometimes, when I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out, what's in my head and I, I feel a little peculiar. So I wake in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high and I scream from the top of my lungs, what's going on?


















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This post is da bomb

[Josy]

Well, I cry sometimes, when I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out, what's in my head and I, I feel a little peculiar. So I wake in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high and I scream from the top of my lungs, what's going on?


















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This post...............I am actually lmao

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[farhad]

Never understood this notion, really. Apes are super intelligent animals and very beautiful creatures. Setting aside the fact that I don't believe in a creator and do believe we evolved from a common ancestor, why turn evil sinners into apes?

That's like asking why a criminal wasn't made to serve imprisonment. Since Atheist believe in evolution and insult human beings as apes, hence why should they be upset if allah turned bad people into apes lol.

[DanaC]

Umm... humans aren't apes, they're just members of the same family (at a push you could say that the family is 'Great Apes', but that's a bit of a misnomer).

And, I don't see how it is an insult. As I, somewhat unsuccessfully tried to explain, apes are wonderful creatures.

My point was: why would 'Allah' select apes as the creature of choice for evil people? Apes and swine. Again, never understood why swine were chosen. Never really understood the disdain for swine. Pigs are great. They're very clever creatures.

Why not turn bad humans into, I dunno, giraffes and shellfish, to pick a couple at random. Why all the piggy hate? Why the gorilla goading?

[LikeABoatOnWater]

Orangutans?

[Shaun]

I generally laugh it off because it was written by some imaginative, zealous fearmongerers centuries ago.

[LikeABoatOnWater]

I generally laugh it off because it was written by some imaginative, zealous fearmongerers centuries ago.

But Shaun you could get turned into a cutie like this
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1260/5138946907_0751cb35d1_b.jpg
surely thats enough to believe
im starting to get into this muslim ****.

[DanaC]

Evil. Look at those evil eyes.

[farhad]

Umm... humans aren't apes, they're just members of the same family (at a push you could say that the family is 'Great Apes', but that's a bit of a misnomer).

And, I don't see how it is an insult. As I, somewhat unsuccessfully tried to explain, apes are wonderful creatures.

My point was: why would 'Allah' select apes as the creature of choice for evil people? Apes and swine. Again, never understood why swine were chosen. Never really understood the disdain for swine. Pigs are great. They're very clever creatures.

Why not turn bad humans into, I dunno, giraffes and shellfish, to pick a couple at random. Why all the piggy hate? Why the gorilla goading?

So you would want to turn to an animal? lol

[DanaC]

And you got that from my post how?




Incidentally, we already are animals. We're just very, very clever ones.

[Redway]

Religion in general is a load of old **** characterised by inconceivably hateful and downright sickening attitudes towards certain groups (a complete contradiction of the God of love) and there's actually stone-hard proof for science, so I don't tend to pay attention to silly quotes like that.

[LikeABoatOnWater]

Can Allah cure me of my gayness, Farhad?

[farhad]

Religion in general is a load of old **** characterised by inconceivably hateful and downright sickening attitudes towards certain groups (a complete contradiction of the God of love) and there's actually stone-hard proof for science, so I don't tend to pay attention to silly quotes like that.

So you expect God to love you even if you denied him or if you committed a murder and rape you want your creator to love you? Are you insane?

If you read the verse and the story allah did not curse good people but the people who committed sinful behaviors after warnings and warnings. Its like an offender got several warnings but still continued with his criminal act, would you love that person? Our creator will at least expect us to return him back with what he's given us with all the foods and creation, expect to do good righteous deeds and worship who created you and me.

[Jessica.]

Well, I cry sometimes, when I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out, what's in my head and I, I feel a little peculiar. So I wake in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high and I scream from the top of my lungs, what's going on?


















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[Redway]

So you expect God to love you even if you denied him or if you committed a murder and rape you want your creator to love you? Are you insane?


I was on about the horrific attitude towards gays and women in the Bible and all, especially gays. Please don't tell me that you're comparing natural, perfectly normal tendencies to the likes of murder and rape.

[farhad]

I was on about the horrific attitude towards gays and women in the Bible and all, especially gays. Please don't tell me that you're comparing natural, perfectly normal tendencies to the likes of murder and rape.

The Bible was changed by people over the different periods so you will find things that goes against God and homosexuality is forbidden in all religions, because God made a man and women to breed and for survival of humanity.

[Emmyasdfghjkl]

I don't believe in it.. so I hardly care.

[Kizzy]

The Bible was changed by people over the different periods so you will find things that goes against God and homosexuality is forbidden in all religions, because God made a man and women to breed and for survival of humanity.

Well thank god for homosexuality then, otherwise imagine the overpopulation of the world... Where would everybody live?

[farhad]

I don't believe in it.. so I hardly care.

Only 6% of the whole worlds population don't believe in God, that shows the massive evidence of existence of God, there has to be 1 creator that created the world. I already feel sorry for you of your outcome in the next life, what if you was wrong about the non-existence of God, what answers will you have for the creator? Islam is the only religion that believes the oneness of God, there is 1 creator and he has no mother or father, he has no gender, no image, Islam came for whole of humanity, Allah said Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the final messenger for whole of mankind, compare to Christianity where Jesus only came for the Jews and Israel, Judaism only believes no one else can be Jewish if their great grandmother wasn't Jewish, Hinduism is only a religion of India with several hundred's of Gods in image, Islam is the only religion that was sent for the whole of humanity, Islam means submission to one and only 1 creator.

[farhad]

Well thank god for homosexuality then, otherwise imagine the overpopulation of the world... Where would everybody live?

There are ways to stop overpopulation than indulging in same sex, anyway I'm not going to go into this topic then end up with locked thread.

[Redway]

Oh dear lord in heaven. (Excuse the pun.)

[Kizzy]

How?...
Prophets are the problem ....they come here, tell us half a tale then feck off! charming :idc:

[farhad]

How?...
Prophets are the problem ....they come here, tell us half a tale then feck off! charming :idc:

Prpohet's come to pass on the message to their people of their creator. Islam abolishes idolatry and those who form an image of God commit idolatry. Islamic philosophy is the best because having no image of god prevents segregation of race and color, meaning we won't know how god appearance till we die, there won't be white or black or brown looking creator, no gender that can result in segregation, this is one is the main reason why Islam forbids image of god formed by human. Imagine if everyone worshipped 1 god, no image, how world would be like.

[Redway]

Prpohet's come to pass on the message to their people of their creator. Islam abolishes idolatry and those who form an image of God commit idolatry. Islamic philosophy is the best because having no image of god prevents segregation of race and color, meaning we won't know how god appearance till we die, there won't be white or black or brown looking creator, no gender that can result in segregation, this is one is the main reason why Islam forbids image of god formed by human. Imagine if everyone worshipped 1 god, no image, how world would be like.

Islam is still a horrendous religion littered with contradictions all over. I think I find muslim philosophy more abhorrent than "the best" tbh.

[Kizzy]

Prpohet's come to pass on the message to their people of their creator. Islam abolishes idolatry and those who form an image of God commit idolatry. Islamic philosophy is the best because having no image of god prevents segregation of race and color, meaning we won't know how god appearance till we die, there won't be white or black or brown looking creator, no gender that can result in segregation, this is one is the main reason why Islam forbids image of god formed by human. Imagine if everyone worshipped 1 god, no image, how world would be like.

I thought that was a given that there was one god, so how come these prophets all teach conflicting messages then.
You can understand why there is so much confusion over the right and wrong way to do stuff.

[farhad]

Islam is still a horrendous religion littered with contradictions all over. I think I find muslim philosophy more abhorrent than "the best" tbh.

You have not learned Islam or learned arabic to read and understand the quran or history and its belief. Islam has been the main religion since the world was created, Islam means worshiping your creator who 1 and only creator, please learn the truth and save yourself from the day of judgement. I've stopped watching Big Brother and Pornography because of the fear of what will happen to me in the next life, please search for the truth and don't deny God. I know deep down in your mind and heart you believe the existence of God but you have not found the right guidance. You can believe in evolution if you want but believe all that happened by God's will and intelligent design, please its for your own good.

[farhad]

I thought that was a given that there was one god, so how come these prophets all teach conflicting messages then.
You can understand why there is so much confusion over the right and wrong way to do stuff.

What do you mean Prophet's taught different messages? They taught one message and their messages have been distorted of the period of time after their deaths and hence Prophet Muhammad PBUH was the last and final messenger to come and correct the distorting of man and preach the one and only creator.

[DanaC]

I believe in cake. Anyone else for cake?

[Kizzy]

What do you mean Prophet's taught different messages? They taught one message and their messages have been distorted of the period of time after their deaths and hence Prophet Muhammad PBUH was the last and final messenger to come and correct the distorting of man and preach the one and only creator.

Do you accept jesus as a prophet?

[farhad]

Do you accept jesus as a prophet?

Yes, I can't be muslim if I didn't, he isn't God because he was a man, same way prophet Muhammad was, he came to preach the message of one god to his people and they denied him as the messenger. People who form image of a God as a man are committing idol worship, why image of a man as god and make him look white or black or brown, this goes against Islam and even goes against the Bible of forming image of God.

[Shaun]

is nikki grahame a prophet

[Kizzy]

If they denied jesus, why send another prophet as a man?
Send a talking goat, or an angel. I have a distrust of religion.
Nothing that has caused so much greed and death can ever be described as good.

[farhad]

If they denied jesus, why send another prophet as a man?
Send a talking goat, or an angel. I have a distrust of religion.
Nothing that has caused so much greed and death can ever be described as good.

To preach the mandkind of their creator, prophet's were meant to guide their people but over the period of times their message had been distorted and made to look evil, do you really think Jesus PBUH had said a lot of evil things in the Bible such as incest, killing women and children during war?? A prophet would not say those things but people have changed their message after their death.

[Kizzy]

Yes well, the message is lost as it incurs too much wrath to question the prophets.... especially the last one.

[farhad]

Yes well, the message is lost as it incurs too much wrath to question the prophets.... especially the last one.

So why do you deny your creator? The one that made you, created the earth and universe, created animals, food, and you deny your creator when your living in creators creation, why?

[Tom4784]

Beyonce is the only true god.

[farhad]

All you who deny your creator, you should owe your existence to God, you would not exist without this creator. something can't come from nothing, the question would be where that nothing came from.

[Kizzy]

Where did I say that?....
I said the message was lost not that there was no message.

[Tom4784]

All you who deny your creator, you should owe your existence to God, you would not exist without this creator. something can't come from nothing, the question would be where that nothing came from.

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[Kizzy]

We can just talk around that farhad, I get you stopping watching porn but why BB what does god have against fly on the wall docusoaps? :laugh:

[Z]

Lol.

[Jesus.]

farhad is my new favourite poster.

I'm going to bloc vote the **** out of him when the time comes.

[farhad]

We can just talk around that farhad, I get you stopping watching porn but why BB what does god have against fly on the wall docusoaps? :laugh:

BigBrother has no morality, people nowadays have no morals and keep overstepping the line in the name of democracy which I think is not good for the society.

[Jesus.]

You do realise that we're Apes as well, don't you farhad? Turning humans into Apes, is the equivalent of turning dogs into Wolves.

[Scarlett.]

Beyonce is the only true god.

There is only one true god. (http://www.reddit.com/r/onetruegod)

[DanaC]

If something cannot come from nothing: where did God come from?

[Niamh.]

If something cannot come from nothing: where did God come from?

An ape?

[Benjamin]

Well, I cry sometimes, when I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out, what's in my head and I, I feel a little peculiar. So I wake in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high and I scream from the top of my lungs, what's going on?


















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You never fail to make me laugh.

[Kizzy]

BigBrother has no morality, people nowadays have no morals and keep overstepping the line in the name of democracy which I think is not good for the society.

In the name of democracy, Do you mean freedom of speech and expression?
I disagree, far more immoral crimes are committed ...In the name of religion.

[Jesus.]

People in the desert, with nothing much to do,
so they created god, and he created you.

[Benjamin]

You have not learned Islam or learned arabic to read and understand the quran or history and its belief. Islam has been the main religion since the world was created, Islam means worshiping your creator who 1 and only creator, please learn the truth and save yourself from the day of judgement. I've stopped watching Big Brother and Pornography because of the fear of what will happen to me in the next life, please search for the truth and don't deny God. I know deep down in your mind and heart you believe the existence of God but you have not found the right guidance. You can believe in evolution if you want but believe all that happened by God's will and intelligent design, please its for your own good.

Just to pull you up on this. You say you have stopped watching Big Brother and Pornography because of the fear of what will happen to you, but if your fear really is that deep rooted you would have stopped using the internet as well...

[Redway]

You have not learned Islam or learned arabic to read and understand the quran or history and its belief. Islam has been the main religion since the world was created, Islam means worshiping your creator who 1 and only creator, please learn the truth and save yourself from the day of judgement. I've stopped watching Big Brother and Pornography because of the fear of what will happen to me in the next life, please search for the truth and don't deny God. I know deep down in your mind and heart you believe the existence of God but you have not found the right guidance. You can believe in evolution if you want but believe all that happened by God's will and intelligent design, please its for your own good.

You're on the right forum, then, aren't you?