View Full Version : Hannah Smith: Charge Site Over Death Says Dad
arista
08-08-2013, 04:25 PM
This is going Crazy now
As big Ads pull out of ask fm site
http://news.sky.com/story/1125847/hannah-smith-charge-site-over-death-says-dad
Its tragic she died
but why did the parents not check on her?
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2013/8/8/252373/default/v1/hannah-smith-and-dad-inset-1-522x293.jpg
I mean a 14 year old should be stuck on the Internet - Alone
Also that Dad
needs to understand he was in charge of her
not a russian web site
As horrible as it is that a girl was bullied so much that she took her own life, and as sorry as I feel for the parents - the girl could have just deleted her ask.fm page. The sole purpose of that website is to get anonymous questions to answer. On some level that girl must have been thriving off having an ask.fm page because there is no logical reason to keep something like that if you're getting abuse on it. I had a Formspring (exact same format, just a different name) when I was younger and it was the same thing. Everybody got abuse on it. Hell, even TiBB members abused other TiBB members on it back in the day. If you don't like it, why do you have one?
Ninastar
08-08-2013, 08:38 PM
As horrible as it is that a girl was bullied so much that she took her own life, and as sorry as I feel for the parents - the girl could have just deleted her ask.fm page. The sole purpose of that website is to get anonymous questions to answer. On some level that girl must have been thriving off having an ask.fm page because there is no logical reason to keep something like that if you're getting abuse on it. I had a Formspring (exact same format, just a different name) when I was younger and it was the same thing. Everybody got abuse on it. Hell, even TiBB members abused other TiBB members on it back in the day. If you don't like it, why do you have one?
i agree. and there is the option to take off anon... this is being taken way out of proportion IMO. another case to show that kids need to be watched on the internet, and that teenagers really can be the most scummy, evil little ****s to ever exist.
King Gizzard
08-08-2013, 08:53 PM
Pretty sure you can just get rid of the account as well, but then again at the same time she would be wondering who had sent her those messages and probably frightened out of her mind
..I don't know anything about ask.fm or how it works and I'm sure there are things Hannah could have done but we don't always do the 'obvious or sensible' thing and especially if she was sensitive and susceptible to whatever was being said to her..it's ok saying what we would have done but we're looking at it from an unemotional view, whereas Hannah was obviously deeply upset and didn't have that objectivity...
..and yes the parents could be said to have had more control as well but in general in my experience, parents try their best and are very loving and caring but they can't always protect from everything and are always easy targets to blame..Hannah was a victim and to me it just promotes and excuses this awful behaviour which happens on the internet in particular to lay any blame with the victims..it's the behaviour of the people who cruelly do these things that should be addressed and not Hannah's ...
..I don't know anything about ask.fm or how it works and I'm sure there are things Hannah could have done but we don't always do the 'obvious or sensible' thing and especially if she was sensitive and susceptible to whatever was being said to her..it's ok saying what we would have done but we're looking at it from an unemotional view, whereas Hannah was obviously deeply upset and didn't have that objectivity...
..and yes the parents could be said to have had more control as well but in general in my experience, parents try their best and are very loving and caring but they can't always protect from everything and are always easy targets to blame..Hannah was a victim and to me it just promotes and excuses this awful behaviour which happens on the internet in particular to lay any blame with the victims..it's the behaviour of the people who cruelly do these things that should be addressed and not Hannah's ...
I agree, but unlike a lot of other forms of bullying, this is one that could have been avoided entirely. I don't know if she was getting bullied at school and if this was an extension of that or if it was just being done online; but having an ask.fm is just an open invitation to receive abuse. No good can come from having one. It is built specifically for anonymous people to ask you questions - it is so open to misuse that you have to wonder if that was the point in the first place. I can see no valid reason for websites like it to exist other than to fulfill that warped urge to hear what people really think of you, and unfortunately for this girl, people were being totally cruel.
What does shock me more is that the abuse is continuing, I've been reading that her older sister has now been getting abuse too. They need to arrest these kids, that's downright evil.
arista
11-08-2013, 03:49 PM
Hannah Smith 'sent vast majority of hate messages to herself'
before committing suicide, claim website bosses
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2389212/Hannah-Smith-sent-vast-majority-hate-messages-committing-suicide-claim-website-bosses.html#ixzz2bfyoo0PP
This case is getting Very Strange
Kizzy
11-08-2013, 04:07 PM
Hmm that is a bit of a twist, and yep I don't doubt for a second that people on tibb and other forums just like this have sent abusive messages to strangers.
It may be just harmless 'mouthing off' but when people are vulnerable it could be a catalyst for more extreme thoughts and behaviours.
arista
11-08-2013, 04:16 PM
Hmm that is a bit of a twist, and yep I don't doubt for a second that people on tibb and other forums just like this have sent abusive messages to strangers.
It may be just harmless 'mouthing off' but when people are vulnerable it could be a catalyst for more extreme thoughts and behaviours.
Yes but her Dad
must take back his words
if the site is in the clear
I knew people who did that kind of attention seeking thing on those sorts of sites... very bizarre behaviour
Brother Leon
11-08-2013, 04:48 PM
Ask.FM is the dumbest thing. It's just a load of attention seekers. Shame she took her own life but the 98% self sent message twist...come on. The site can't be blamed for that.
Kizzy
11-08-2013, 04:59 PM
Yes but her Dad
must take back his words
if the site is in the clear
No he doesn't he was angry and grieving, he had a lot to deal with that we can only imagine.
I knew people who did that kind of attention seeking thing on those sorts of sites... very bizarre behaviour
Pretty much anyone who's been online since the time before fb/myspace/etc, when it was all newsgroups and internet forums, has encountered that one person who is living a fictional life and ultimtely either "dies" or gets caught out. I knew one who even came back as her sister to watch all the people heartbroken and mourning her (right up until the website contacted her husband to find out where to donate all the money collected, and she answered the phone instead).
It sounds like that's the route she was intending to take, but it got to be too much for her.
Kizzy
11-08-2013, 06:31 PM
This is going to sound awful but when I saw the IP was the same address as her I thought it was her sister...
Apple202
11-08-2013, 06:58 PM
no people i know send themselves hate all the time, it's just to get attention
people have even asked me to send them hate lmao
no people i know send themselves hate all the time, it's just to get attention
people have even asked me to send them hate lmao
Yeah it's a really common behaviour among our generation... be interesting to psycho-analyse people who do it. Is it because they want to be interesting? Have people obsess over them? Fatalistic celebrity culture?
Kizzy
12-08-2013, 11:26 AM
It is a teen thing and it's not just your generation. It's just how some are unfortunately. Angsty and confused.
It is a teen thing and it's not just your generation. It's just how some are unfortunately. Angsty and confused.
But with the advent of the internet that age old teenage problem has taken on a new level of angst and confusion. It's like Andy Warhol's 15 minutes of fame comments really have come true. People want to feel like they are of interest and that they are important; and with sites like ask.fm, you can make yourself look important and interesting. Perhaps this girl felt that she needed other people's approval, or perhaps she didn't know what she wanted at all. It must be embarrassing for her family to hear this news from the website though and for it to be in the public domain... their deceased daughter is now being portrayed as an attention seeker by the media.
smeagol
13-08-2013, 06:07 PM
really really terrible that is. beyond words really. cant blame the site though its up to people to just log of and go on a different one or change name etc. or get of the net. dont get cosumed by the internet trolls.
tragic shame no one could of done anything
Jords
13-08-2013, 06:11 PM
Bloody hell :(
Nedusa
13-08-2013, 07:03 PM
No I think this is the grief talking, the Site is what it is , if you feel you are getting negative feedback from people on the site then you move on and do not keep visiting the site or if you do then you hit back with nasty rhetoric of your own.
You do not however brood over the comments and then work yourself into a depressive state of mind.
Very sad story but trying to take action like this against the website is like trying to hold back the tide....!!!!!
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