Why hasn't Ron been physically removed from the house yet?

[brucie]

That was one of the most disgusting, backward things I have heard in a while and from someone who you would assume would be extra careful after his career collapsed when he was caught on mic displaying his true colours...

I can picture him now in the privacy of his home or with fellow racists making highly offensive statements about Blacks, Muslims , Polish or anyone who isn't what he deems to be....WHITE.

What a caveman...a real neanderthal.

Furthermore..BB have really messed up with the 'warning's this year...e.g

1) Gina should have recieved a final warning for that disgusting 'race' card she pulled within five seconds of an argument she
was losing with Jemima and instead warned Jemima!!

2) Carol Mcgiffin warned for repeating a bad word when she was merely describing what happend and then bb themselves repeating it!

[Ammi]

..let's not get carried away..

[joeysteele]

No reason at all to remove him, he accepted the warning, he realised it was inappropriate.
BB were right to do that too in the light of how things are as to what you can and cannot say on TV and what is acceptable too.

I would like to add a 'but' to it all ,however,I have decided I will keep my thoughts to myself as to this.

[AnnieK]

Well said joey.

[reece(:]

He's just uneducated, the warning was fine and hopefully he will not make any such remarks again.

[rubberface]

Give the guy a chance!! You dont know what he says at his home! Gee!

[Kyle]

No reason at all to remove him, he accepted the warning, he realised it was inappropriate.
BB were right to do that too in the light of how things are as to what you can and cannot say on TV and what is acceptable too.

I would like to add a 'but' to it all ,however,I have decided I will keep my thoughts to myself as to this.

Good of you to restrain on the 'but Joey.


We don't want another 20 pager on the definition of racism :joker:

[brucie]

He's just uneducated, the warning was fine and hopefully he will not make any such remarks again.

football seems to attract these thickos...ashley cole, david beckham, john terry, rio ferdinand..

[Amy Jade]

..let's not get carried away..
:worship:

[reece(:]

football seems to attract these thickos...ashley cole, david beckham, john terry, rio ferdinand..
And these people are getting some of the best wages in the country...

[Kyle]

football seems to attract these thickos...ashley cole, david beckham, john terry, rio ferdinand..

Why are you including David Beckham in this?

He might not be the sharpest tool in the box but he doesn't have single bit of hate in his body.

[CaudleHalbard]

And these people are getting some of the best wages in the country...

Most of them would be on minimum wage jobs, or no jobs at all, if we didn't prize so highly the ability to kick a ball from one end of a field and to the other........... multiple times!

Funny old world, eh? ;)

[Ammi]

football seems to attract these thickos...ashley cole, david beckham, john terry, rio ferdinand..

..racist remarks aren't restricted to football but it will catch media attention with anyone in the public eye...

[chuff me dizzy]

Pathetic ,as my Mam used to say "If youve nothing good to say ,shut up "

[chuff me dizzy]

Why are you including David Beckham in this?

He might not be the sharpest tool in the box but he doesn't have single bit of hate in his body.

Sir David is a 100% true gentleman ,as is Ron

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

He's probably made jokes about black people liking fried chicken. :(

To be honest, I wasn't listening when he made this remark. I hope a video pops up.

[andybigbro]

Emily in BB8 got removed over racist language, and she too knew it was wrong. She used it in a joking way, Ron however was making it quite obviously being racist in a derogatory way and assuming those who wear head scarves are going to own bombs.

[CaudleHalbard]

He will be removed if he does it again.

He has blown any possibility of changing public perception of him as a suspect racist. I think he might walk.

[Lord Of The Garden]

That was one of the most disgusting, backward things I have heard in a while and from someone who you would assume would be extra careful after his career collapsed when he was caught on mic displaying his true colours...

I can picture him now in the privacy of his home or with fellow racists making highly offensive statements about Blacks, Muslims , Polish or anyone who isn't what he deems to be....WHITE.

What a caveman...a real neanderthal.

Wow. You accuse Ron of being negative and judgemental. And you do it by being negative and judgmental. Well done.

[_catapult_]

He's probably made jokes about black people liking fried chicken. :(


Is that the biggest crime going? ya know a lot of black people do REALLY LOVE fried chicken .. lol

You know, as a black, I think things like this are TOTAL GARBAGE, all these PC do-gooders banging on calling people racist for the tiniest remark, if you were actually black yourself and had been on the receiving end of real racism, you would really understand that people like Ron are completely harmless...

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No but over pc posters cause offence to me as I always have to log on and get angered by the nonsense they spout about racism blah blah blah.

Seriously every day without a doubt theres a new racism or aggression thread.

FGS its so annoying.

Maybe you should be removed from the forum for offending other forum members with these posts.

[CaudleHalbard]

A lot of this is missing the point that it is a back-covering exercise by BB.

Had they NOT issued a warning, there would be a multitude of complaints to Ofcom.

From their point of view it is better to issue the warning and put up with (i.e. ignore!) a few whinges on the internet!

[erinp5]

Stupid thing to say in response to someone covering their head.

[brucie]

And these people are getting some of the best wages in the country...

most would be in prison or driving white vans if not in football..

[brucie]

No but over pc posters cause offence to me as I always have to log on and get angered by the nonsense they spout about racism blah blah blah.

Seriously every day without a doubt theres a new racism or aggression thread.

FGS its so annoying.

Maybe you should be removed from the forum for offending other forum members with these posts.

Funny you should mention that because only the other day other forum members were highlighting another one of your idiotic statements and saying exactly that about you...

[brucie]

No reason at all to remove him, he accepted the warning, he realised it was inappropriate.
BB were right to do that too in the light of how things are as to what you can and cannot say on TV and what is acceptable too.

I would like to add a 'but' to it all ,however,I have decided I will keep my thoughts to myself as to this.


You mean keep your true feelings hidden...and then reveal them accidently like ron did on the mic...

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Is that the biggest crime going? ya know a lot of black people do REALLY LOVE fried chicken .. lol

You know, as a black, I think things like this are TOTAL GARBAGE, all these PC do-gooders banging on calling people racist for the tiniest remark, if you were actually black yourself and had been on the receiving end of real racism, you would really understand that people like Ron are completely harmless...

Well I am black. :joker: But did you hear the initial remark that got him sacked? He called Emile a lazy nijah. People that have this kind of thinking may be harmless in the sense that they won't go around at night wearing masks and attacking those they hate, but it's not harmless in the sense that people that have these views make for uncomfortable every day living or situations. Like did you watch that experimental series where a mixed race couple were in Manchester. The waiter was being so racist and nobody said a word. It's harmful in that way that you feel people are against you, or have an idea of it which isn't correct and it can be depressing. Imagine a little muslim girl now not knowing any better starts going around crying to her mum people are scared of me just because I wear this. that's sad.

[Lord Of The Garden]

Is that the biggest crime going? ya know a lot of black people do REALLY LOVE fried chicken .. lol

You know, as a black, I think things like this are TOTAL GARBAGE, all these PC do-gooders banging on calling people racist for the tiniest remark, if you were actually black yourself and had been on the receiving end of real racism, you would really understand that people like Ron are completely harmless...


Totally agree with this post.

I don't mind people making racial jokes about my race.

If it's funny, i'll laugh

If it's not, i won't . Simple as that.

It's not something that would bother me personally.

I wish everyone saw it that way.

Jokes are jokes but real racism is something else. When you have been on the receiving end of actual racial abuse - you know the difference, whatever your creed or colour.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Totally agree with this post.

I don't mind people making racial jokes about my race.

If it's funny, i'll laugh

If it's not, i won't . Simple as that.

It's not something that would bother me personally.

I wish everyone saw it that way.

Jokes are jokes but real racism is something else. When you have been on the receiving end of actual racial abuse - you know the difference, whatever your creed or colour.

so you wouldn't mind a pint with big ron? Knowing in the back of his mind he could be thinking what a nijah. Or you make a certain joke, or do a certain stereotypical thing and he chuckles, pfft typical. People like this typically think other races are beneath them. they might not be the most vulgar of racist but still uncomfortable.

[brucie]

Is that the biggest crime going? ya know a lot of black people do REALLY LOVE fried chicken .. lol

You know, as a black, I think things like this are TOTAL GARBAGE, all these PC do-gooders banging on calling people racist for the tiniest remark, if you were actually black yourself and had been on the receiving end of real racism, you would really understand that people like Ron are completely harmless...

hahahahah!

sorry mate, couldn't stop laughing at that comment..." you know as a black"...

just like those racists who start their statement with " I'm not a racist...but ".....

before launching into their hate filled bile..

you are NOT a black person...so why lie..

" as a black ".....hilarious!! :hugesmile:

[brucie]

Totally agree with this post.

I don't mind people making racial jokes about my race.

If it's funny, i'll laugh

If it's not, i won't . Simple as that.

It's not something that would bother me personally.

I wish everyone saw it that way.

Jokes are jokes but real racism is something else. When you have been on the receiving end of actual racial abuse - you know the difference, whatever your creed or colour.

Uncle Tom...

The phrase "Uncle Tom" has also become an epithet for a person who is slavish and excessively subservient to perceived authority figures, particularly a black person who behaves in a subservient manner to white people; or any person perceived to be a participant in the oppression of their own group

[karezza]

Big Ron will leave the BB house on final night as the winner.

:joker:

[BBfan46]

Obviously, that's not an acceptable comment but he's from a different time.

I know, that's not a real excuse but for people of this generation being sensitive to other cultures and PC is ingrained in our heads - it's second nature.

The older generations have had to adapt themselves to it when the other way of thinking and speaking was already their nature. I don't think Ron is malicious in his comments - he's just ignorant and naive.

It's tough - I think the warning was the right way to go though

[brucie]

Obviously, that's not an acceptable comment but he's from a different time.

I know, that's not a real excuse but for people of this generation being sensitive to other cultures and PC is ingrained in our heads - it's second nature.

The older generations have had to adapt themselves to it when the other way of thinking and speaking was already their nature. I don't think Ron is malicious in his comments - he's just ignorant and naive.

It's tough - I think the warning was the right way to go though

you say that but think about this...if he makes those statements on a national tv programme...THINK what he says in the privacy of his own home!!!!

[brucie]

Big Ron will leave the BB house on final night as the winner.

:joker:

perhaps...highly unlikely...and if it happens it means the british support racists..

[karezza]

you say that but think about this...if he makes those statements on a national tv programme...THINK what he says in the privacy of his own home!!!!

Doesn't everyone have negative thoughts? Doesn't everyone blurt out nonsense from time to time? :wavey:

[karezza]

perhaps...highly unlikely...and if it happens it means the british support racists..

Islam isn't a race - in my opinion it is a cult like Buddhism/Roman Catholicism/Judaism.

:spin:

[Kyle]

you say that but think about this...if he makes those statements on a national tv programme...THINK what he says in the privacy of his own home!!!!

What's it matter what he says in the privacy of his own home as long as he isn't inciting hatred?

[brucie]

Islam isn't a race - it is a cult like Buddhism/Roman Catholicism/Judaism.

:spin:

officially reported that...

[karezza]

officially reported that...

Well done! In my opinion all religions are cults.

[Kyle]

Karezza put 'in my opinion' before it's a cult then he can't have any cause for complaint. He can't force his opinion on you.

[brucie]

Well done! All religions are cults - fact.:wavey:

You wouldn't say that in public so why say it behind a computer screen..very cowardly.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

[/B]

Funny you should mention that because only the other day other forum members were highlighting another one of your idiotic statements and saying exactly that about you...

Who asked me to leave the forum?

[brucie]

Who asked me to leave the forum?

as if you would leave anyway...you have 10,000 posts on an internet forum..this place IS your life.

[Kyle]

as if you would leave anyway...you have 10,000 posts on an internet forum..this place IS your life.

You reported someone for their personal opinion about religions being cults and now you say that about a respected forum member.

I don't bother with the whole reporting crap your posts should stay in the public domain for everyone to see what your like.

[karezza]

You wouldn't say that in public so why say it behind a computer screen..very cowardly.

Yes I would. Religion is brainwashing. Beliefs are conceptual hypnotic trances.

:spin:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

as if you would leave anyway...you have 10,000 posts on an internet forum..this place IS your life.

Ive been on here for 4 years.

Love it....If I could I would do anal with it.

Anyway wheres that post you were talking about people telling me to leave a thread?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

People these days hear a word.... Think, ooh that's a bad word and might be offensive even though im not offended I must complain to Ofcom which then makes that caller a racist....FACT.

Religious/Racial words can be used any in type of cotent or situation where racism is 90% not the intention of those words being spoken.

Just banter.

[MrWong]

People these days take words, think ooh that's a bad hemust be racist!

Wrong.

Religious/Racial words can be used any in type of cotent or situation where racism is 90% not the intention of those words being spoken.

Just banter.

Offensively stereotyping muslims as terrorists isn't 'just banter'.

[kistar]

Is that the biggest crime going? ya know a lot of black people do REALLY LOVE fried chicken .. lol

You know, as a black, I think things like this are TOTAL GARBAGE, all these PC do-gooders banging on calling people racist for the tiniest remark, if you were actually black yourself and had been on the receiving end of real racism, you would really understand that people like Ron are completely harmless...

Well said catapult , I like fried chicken !

[brucie]

You reported someone for their personal opinion about religions being cults and now you say that about a respected forum member.

I don't bother with the whole reporting crap your posts should stay in the public domain for everyone to see what your like.

Simple minds.....

[joeysteele]

[/B]


You mean keep your true feelings hidden...and then reveal them accidently like ron did on the mic...

Not at all.
It's just that I see a but to this and really,I think you ought not to presume my 'but' is or could be in any way offensive, thereby then almost being offensive yourself.
I stated that people have to be careful what they say on TV on what can be perceived as likely sensitive issues.

I think it best left there and it is an issue now firmly and rightly dealt with as to Ron and BB too.

[Lord Of The Garden]

Uncle Tom...

The phrase "Uncle Tom" has also become an epithet for a person who is slavish and excessively subservient to perceived authority figures, particularly a black person who behaves in a subservient manner to white people; or any person perceived to be a participant in the oppression of their own group

Are you seriously calling me an Uncle Tom because i said i don't mind jokes about my own race?

Are you saying that everyone who laughs at a racial joke about their own race is an Uncle Tom?

Or do you just limit your judgment to black people?

[brucie]

People these days hear a word.... Think, ooh that's a bad word and might be offensive even though im not offended I must complain to Ofcom which then makes that caller a racist....FACT.

Religious/Racial words can be used any in type of cotent or situation where racism is 90% not the intention of those words being spoken.

Just banter.

david brent...

[Kyle]

Simple minds.....

Don't worry that doesn't offend me :pipe:

[joeysteele]

Ive been on here for 4 years.

Love it....If I could I would do anal with it.

Anyway wheres that post you were talking about people telling me to leave a thread?

:joker: I love this post daniel, thanks for lightening the thread.

[brucie]

Are you seriously calling me an Uncle Tom because i said i don't mind jokes about my own race?

Are you saying that everyone who laughs at a racial joke about their own race is an Uncle Tom?

Or do you just limit your judgment to black people?

Get off your knees man....

[kistar]

Ive been on here for 4 years.

Love it....If I could I would do anal with it.

Anyway wheres that post you were talking about people telling me to leave a thread?

Love you being on here Daniel xxxx

[sassysocks]

That was one of the most disgusting, backward things I have heard in a while and from someone who you would assume would be extra careful after his career collapsed when he was caught on mic displaying his true colours...

I can picture him now in the privacy of his home or with fellow racists making highly offensive statements about Blacks, Muslims , Polish or anyone who isn't what he deems to be....WHITE.

What a caveman...a real neanderthal.

Furthermore..BB have really messed up with the 'warning's this year...e.g

1) Gina should have recieved a final warning for that disgusting 'race' card she pulled within five seconds of an argument she
was losing with Jemima and instead warned Jemima!!

2) Carol Mcgiffin warned for repeating a bad word when she was merely describing what happend and then bb themselves repeating it!

You missed the ones about how Gina and Dexter should have received warnings for their sexist comments. Both racism and sexism are covered under the equality laws - both are discrimination.

[DanaC]

he hasn't been physically removed because that would be a gross over reaction.

He clearly didn't intend offence. A warning was fair enough. Now he knows that joke crosses the line for what you can say on national television.

[brucie]

he hasn't been physically removed because that would be a gross over reaction.

He clearly didn't intend offence. A warning was fair enough. Now he knows that joke crosses the line for what you can say on national television.

That's the whole problem..there dosen't seem to be any acknowledgement that what he said is wrong...just a ticking off like a child ...crosses the line???

you mean he should keep his his nasty views but just be careful when to use them?!!?!?:conf:

[sassysocks]

you say that but think about this...if he makes those statements on a national tv programme...THINK what he says in the privacy of his own home!!!!

Which he is entitled to do. How do we know what you think about in the privacy of your own home? Are you trying to control and legislate against people's thoughts now?

[Lord Of The Garden]

Get off your knees man....

Haha

I know who this is

How's it going ? You're still on here then ! Thought they might have kicked you off by now!

What you been up to?

[brucie]

Haha

I know who this is

How's it going ? You're still on here then ! Thought they might have kicked you off by now!

What you been up to?

never spoken to you before...

[DanaC]

[/B]

That's the whole problem..there dosen't seem to be any acknowledgement that what he said is wrong...just a ticking off like a child ...crosses the line???

you mean he should keep his his nasty views but just be careful when to use them?!!?!?:conf:

Well, no. I'd much rather he abandon such thinking altogether. But it is not the job of Celebrity Big Brother to re-educate people nor to fight the good fight against racism. It's an entertainment show. It has certain responsibilities and one of them is ensuring racist language and humor is not used within the house.

A lot of people engage in such humour without really considering what it is they're actually saying with their jokes. Challenging that humour is good (imo) and healthy. Pillorying someone for lazy stereotyping and unintended offence is less helpful. Better to explain why it is offensive and then let them ponder that.

People don't change their minds on something because you go in hard, They change their minds because you give them compelling reasons to do so.

[brucie]

Well, no. I'd much rather he abandon such thinking altogether. But it is not the job of Celebrity Big Brother to re-educate people nor to fight the good fight against racism. It's an entertainment show. It has certain responsibilities and one of them is ensuring racist language and humor is not used within the house.

A lot of people engage in such humour without really considering what it is they're actually saying with their jokes. Challenging that humour is good (imo) and healthy. Pillorying someone for lazy stereotyping and unintended offence is less helpful. Better to explain why it is offensive and then let them ponder that.

People don't change their minds on something because you go in hard, They change their minds because you give them compelling reasons to do so.

it says on your profile, you were a fan of gina...how did you feel about that disgusting and cheap trick she pulled on jemima when she played the race card?

[Jimrod]

Abz offends me with his faux Jamaican gangster wannabe accent, can I report that to Ofcom? It's nearly as bad as Tim Westwood's FFS... You're white and British, get over it!

[brucie]

Abz offends me with his faux Jamaican gangster wannabe accent, can I report that to Ofcom? It's nearly as bad as Tim Westwood's FFS... You're white and British, get over it!

actually abz is half turkish..maybe he thinks talking like that is paying 'respect' to his north london upbringing..despite being a drama school boy called richard!!

[DanaC]

Well, I didn't actually see that :p I came into the series several days in.


I read about it. Thought it was pretty sad. I didn't much like her calling Hazel a slut and blaming her for being a 'home wrecker' either.

People aren't perfect. I'm quite capable of liking somebody despite some of the stuff they say and do.

[Lord Of The Garden]

never spoken to you before...

http://1.2.3.9/bmi/cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/smilies/xyxwave.gif

[brucie]

Well, I didn't actually see that :p I came into the series several days in.


I read about it. Thought it was pretty sad. I didn't much like her calling Hazel a slut and blaming her for being a 'home wrecker' either.

People aren't perfect. I'm quite capable of liking somebody despite some of the stuff they say and do.

she was one of the nastiest pieces of work to appear on the show and you seem like an intelligent person too..so i'm confused why you liked her.

[kistar]

she was one of the nastiest pieces of work to appear on the show and you seem like an intelligent person too..so i'm confused why you liked her.

Brucie , have you ever heard of something called 'The Plot' ? I think you might have lost it.

[DanaC]

There were facets of her personality that I liked.

[Pincho Paxton]

I find the opening post offensive. There is such as thing as anti-racist-ism. Which is to be so opposed to racism that you yourself become an instigator of bad relations between ethnicities.

[Jesus.]

I find the opening post offensive. There is such as thing as anti-racist-ism. Which is to be so opposed to racism that you yourself become an instigator of bad relations between ethnicities.

Anti-racist-ism? I knew you wouldn't disappoint me.

Close thread.

[Videostar]

That was one of the most disgusting, backward things I have heard in a while and from someone who you would assume would be extra careful after his career collapsed when he was caught on mic displaying his true colours...

I can picture him now in the privacy of his home or with fellow racists making highly offensive statements about Blacks, Muslims , Polish or anyone who isn't what he deems to be....WHITE.

What a caveman...a real neanderthal.

Furthermore..BB have really messed up with the 'warning's this year...e.g

1) Gina should have recieved a final warning for that disgusting 'race' card she pulled within five seconds of an argument she
was losing with Jemima and instead warned Jemima!!

2) Carol Mcgiffin warned for repeating a bad word when she was merely describing what happend and then bb themselves repeating it!

So now he hates Polish people ? lol

Aren't Polish people white? :joker:

You prove that people should drink and post. :elephant:

[cfromhx02]

I'm surprised he hasn't come out with any trans phobic comments yet either.He's a proven racist as he has made several racist comments before and therefore shouldn't have been accepted on the show in the first place.

But racists, who so easy to defeat in anr argument and make them look stupid, the whole human race comes from the rift in east africa in the first place so what's all this sh*t about race, racists are like people who can't cope with someone being trans, they don't like anyone whop doesn't conform, and there's nothing stranger or weirder in my opinion than people who have to conform

I mean how stupid is it that people have to conform to certain ideas of what gender,race,class etc are just because they have been told these are the ways things have to be by the media, about time people stopped being led into being divided by racism, or any other kind of phobia by the rich who own the media

they are just controlling people as they don't want us to unite against them of course, nothing weirder than going along and conforming with their agenda to divide and control the gen public.

[CaudleHalbard]

I'm surprised he hasn't come out with any trans phobic comments yet.

Oh give him time! :D

Surely this is what people want to see? How he and Lauren get on.

[anne666]

He's a thick football person, not surprised at all.Homophobia next.:dance:

[DanaC]

I think he'll get along just fine with Lauren. He seems the type who paints whole cultures with a broad brush but takes individuals on merit.

[Northern Monkey]

Which he is entitled to do. How do we know what you think about in the privacy of your own home? Are you trying to control and legislate against people's thoughts now?

Exactly,Wtf do some people want,Thought police now?Jeez.Everybody has different opinions and are fully entitled to them.What they say in their own home is up to them.This place in unblelievable sometimes.

[karezza]

Which he is entitled to do. How do we know what you think about in the privacy of your own home? Are you trying to control and legislate against people's thoughts now?

The Guardian-reading, leftwing thought police would love to do that.

:spin:

[Northern Monkey]

you say that but think about this...if he makes those statements on a national tv programme...THINK what he says in the privacy of his own home!!!!

This post is pure stupidity IMO.Who are you to tell anybody what they are allowed to think or say "in the privacy" of their own home?Moronic.