Anyone else think lauren is playing the victim?

[Waynoo]

She is a very smart person lets not get fooled by the "dumb blonde" act. She is playing for sympathy and the viewers are falling for it,even I was initially until the last few shows. Lets get her out!

[Blue Cadillac]

Ohhh yes. Playing an exceptionally good game, and will undoubtedly win, too.

[Pincho Paxton]

She is a very smart person lets not get fooled by the "dumb blonde" act. She is playing for sympathy and the viewers are falling for it,even I was initially until the last few shows. Lets get her out!

I don't, because most of her sadness has been taken to bed, and hidden away.

[Vanessa]

No, not at all. She's very genuine.

[Dionkan]

She knows how to play the game and her ace which she has used is when she mentions transgende

[kistar]

She knows how to play the game and her ace which she has used is when she mentions transgende

Exactly

[Dionkan]

Scary person. Couldn't believe it when she gave Courtney pills,

[Mrluvaluva]

No. I think she's lived a very sheltered life and is very naive. She's not malicious. She gets her point across without calling people names etc. I think her parents have kept her child-like and that shows through. She's out of her comfort zone, quite possibly deluded in some respects, but I think a bit of a confidence boost and encouragement could help her.

[Blue Cadillac]

Scary person. Couldn't believe it when she gave Courtney pills,

Thank goodness Courtney played along and pretended to take them!!

[Nemo123]

Her whole family was scathed by Keith Allen when he did a no-holds barred interview with her and her family.

[Blue Cadillac]

No. I think she's lived a very sheltered life and is very naive. She's not malicious. She gets her point across without calling people names etc. I think her parents have kept her child-like and that shows through. She's out of her comfort zone, quite possibly deluded in some respects, but I think a bit of a confidence boost and encouragement could help her.

Hmmm......but I still don't think she's entertaining.

[Mrluvaluva]

Hmmm......but I still don't think she's entertaining.

I think she's more entertaining than many in there. Her antics, her songs, the way she does things with the belief that she's doing something great when in fact not (hair etc) actually make me laugh. She is surely more entertaining than some of the others?

[joeysteele]

She irritated me loads in the highlights tonight and I hope more for her sake than anything else that she is out soon.
She is either way too fragile to be in there emotionally or simply way out of her depth. Whatever it is she is now far from entertaining.

[Blue Cadillac]

I think she's more entertaining than many in there. Her antics, her songs, the way she does things with the belief that she's doing something great when in fact it's not (hair etc) actually make me laugh. She is surely more entertaining than some of the others?

I don't find any of them particularly entertaining, but I don't find her funny at all, to be honest.

[kistar]

No. I think she's lived a very sheltered life and is very naive. She's not malicious. She gets her point across without calling people names etc. I think her parents have kept her child-like and that shows through. She's out of her comfort zone, quite possibly deluded in some respects, but I think a bit of a confidence boost and encouragement could help her.

I think she got about a bit when she was the famous child prodigy, apparently he/ James was on Oprah so had gone to America, being famous as a child surely must widen your horizons a bit?

I think you are (perhaps)being sucked in by the whole pretence, if you saw her on the this morning clip arguing with the doctor about him using the word transgender you would not think she was so vulnerable and delicate.

[Mrluvaluva]

I don't find any of them particularly entertaining, but I don't find her funny at all, to be honest.

Ahh well. It would be a sh.it world if we all liked the same things.

[Blue Cadillac]

Ahh well. It would be a sh.it world if we all liked the same things.

That's very true.

[Mrluvaluva]

I think she got about a bit when she was the famous child prodigy, apparently he/ James was on Oprah so had gone to America, being famous as a child surely must widen your horizons a bit?

I think you are (perhaps)being sucked in by the whole pretence, if you saw her on the this morning clip arguing with the doctor about him using the word transgender you would not think she was so vulnerable and delicate.

I have previously seen it thanks and have made my own mind up about things before posting.

[Pincho Paxton]

I don't find any of them particularly entertaining, but I don't find her funny at all, to be honest.

It's not funny!!! You have absolutely no sense of humour...

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[Nemo123]

I can't stand her or the family she comes from. They're all manipulators and chancers. The Keith Allen show about them exposed.

[Blue Cadillac]

It's not funny!!! You have absolutely no sense of humour...

http://www.sheffieldsalon.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/fawlty.jpg

I must have a fawlty sense of humour......... :hugesmile:

[Pincho Paxton]

I must have a fawlty sense of humour......... :hugesmile:

Glad you got the joke, else I could have got a warning. :joker:

[cfromhx02]

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

[Vanessa]

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

I agree. I love Lauren. I think she's great. And :hug:

[Kizzy]

To a certain extent yes, I just don't think this was the best Idea for Lauren to come on the show, she has said herself she is very sheltered at home with her family. She's really struggling in there it's not entertaining watching her, I feel very uncomfortable at times especially with the sniggering about singing and such.

[Videostar]

I don't think Lauren is playing the victim...I don't think Lauren knows whats going on, if you ask me.

[Seanbon]

It's apples and oranges here.
I knew that someone would reply with that. Whatever the truth may be, Bradley did a noble deed. What has Lauren done did mankind no favours a all.

Not really! Since the beginning of time there has been subterfuge,normally done in the general public's interest,despite the propaganda,so revealing it in detail doesn't help anyone,probably the exact opposite!!!
I'm not a naive muppet,btw,but when you're dealing with the Taliban,and their ilk,you need to employ a certain degree of undercover work,and then Bradley and Wikileaks reveal all,DOH!?!?!

[Seanbon]

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

Feel for you mate,and can never relate to what you've gone through,and presumably are still going through! Too many narrow minded muppets about,but hopefully enough people with brain cells to counter the balance?!? Take care.:xyxwave:

[Videostar]

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people;

I've got no love for the eviction crowds, nor do I think Lauren is playing the victim...but to say that those who booed Lauren proves that they are transphobic is just wrong, some might be, but it could be possible that not everyone likes Lauren for fair reasons.

PLEASE, don't play that card simply because not everyone likes the trans gendered HM.

[Northern Monkey]

I think she's stark raving bonkers,Or atleast one sandwich short of a picnic.She seems to smother poor Courtney,I don't think Courtney knew what she was getting into when she befriended Lauren.I think Lauren would benefit from being out of that house tbh.It's hard enough in there for anyone,nevermind someone as fragile and socially inept as Lauren.

[Seanbon]

I think she's stark raving bonkers,Or atleast one sandwich short of a picnic.She seems to smother poor Courtney,I don't think Courtney knew what she was getting into when she befriended Lauren.I think Lauren would benefit from being out of that house tbh.It's hard enough in there for anyone,nevermind someone as fragile and socially inept as Lauren.

Needs to get out asap,and probably should never have gone in,but again the "stark raving bonkers" is so out of order!! Imagine if she was a friend or a family member,grow up!?!?!?:nono:

[Northern Monkey]

Needs to get out asap,and probably should never have gone in,but again the "stark raving bonkers" is so out of order!! Imagine if she was a friend or a family member,grow up!?!?!?:nono:

She's defo on another planet mentally.imo

[jegmeister]

I've got no love for the eviction crowds, nor do I think Lauren is playing the victim...but to say that those who booed Lauren proves that they are transphobic is just wrong, some might be, but it could be possible that not everyone likes Lauren for fair reasons.

PLEASE, don't play that card simply because not everyone likes the trans gendered HM.

You see this is what is making me put Lauren as one of my most disliked Celeb HMs of all time. The constant accusation of bullying and victim playing that she indulges in. She is a narcissistic manipulator - the fact she is transgender is neither here nor there. I intensely dislike her personality and no amount of guilt-tripping from her, the posters or the public about her past or her sexuality will make me change that.

[Blue Cadillac]

You see this is what is making me put Lauren as one of my most disliked Celeb HMs of all time. The constant accusation of bullying and victim playing that she indulges in. She is a narcissistic manipulator - the fact she is transgender is neither here nor there. I intensely dislike her personality and no amount of guilt-tripping from her, the posters or the public about her past or her sexuality will make me change that.

Amen to that.

[Ammi]

You see this is what is making me put Lauren as one of my most disliked Celeb HMs of all time. The constant accusation of bullying and victim playing that she indulges in. She is a narcissistic manipulator - the fact she is transgender is neither here nor there. I intensely dislike her personality and no amount of guilt-tripping from her, the posters or the public about her past or her sexuality will make me change that.

..I don't think she is a manipulator, maybe she is and I don't see it but I think the 'bullying/victim cards' she seems to play are because she probably has had a life of people being scathing about who she is and so assumes everyone's actions are motivated the same, when maybe they just don't like her as a person...I think she genuinely can't differentiate....

[Johnnyuk123]

Lauren is a great housemate! Love her!

[south12345]

No doubt Lauren has some mental health issues which make her appear to be playing the part of the victim
Cocooned in her family home she has not learnt the necessary social skills to interact with others at this level, esp not celebrities with big egos. But because of her naivety and lack of social skills she is going about it the wrong way.So people are turning against her, not because she is transgender, but simply because she is misunderstood. Rejection has been a big part of her life and so when it appears she is being rejected by her fellow HMs and the public she retreats into her bubble and the tears flow....

[Cherie]

No. I think she's lived a very sheltered life and is very naive. She's not malicious. She gets her point across without calling people names etc. I think her parents have kept her child-like and that shows through. She's out of her comfort zone, quite possibly deluded in some respects, but I think a bit of a confidence boost and encouragement could help her.


You never saw her on BOTS then partnered up with Pete Burns doing the fashion reviews?

[Bojangles]

I don't think Lauren is playing the victim...I don't think Lauren knows whats going on, if you ask me.

I agree,Lauren is a very mixed up person.

[CaudleHalbard]

Why Lauren even a celebrity? Apart from appear on BOTS, she hasn't done anything for about 25 years has she?

I know one could say similarly of Courtney..... but at least she's more current!

[Tozzie]

No. I think she's lived a very sheltered life and is very naive. She's not malicious. She gets her point across without calling people names etc. I think her parents have kept her child-like and that shows through. She's out of her comfort zone, quite possibly deluded in some respects, but I think a bit of a confidence boost and encouragement could help her.

should anything happen to her parents I think Lauren would be lost. I hope out of this show she does manage to find some friends and a bit of happiness.

[Pincho Paxton]

All the best bits have Lauren in them this year. Most of the best bits do not play the victim card, but some do...

Best bits...

1/ Funny Hairstyling.
2/ Funny dance
3/ Funny song
4/ Carol sends Lauren to Sophie
5/ Courtney you are my best friend
6/ Courtney wore a slutty dress
7/ Lauren is not picked for the party
8/ Lauren and Tablet-gate
9/ Lauren goes to bed
10/ Lauren locked in the toilet
11/ Bruce Goes Mad
12/ Brush gets stuck in hair

So Lauren to win is a fair vote!

[Lord Of The Garden]

You never saw her on BOTS then partnered up with Pete Burns doing the fashion reviews?

Exactly !

She had no problem judging other people then and making bitchy comments about their looks etc.

But God forbid anyone dares to judge HER - or make comments about HER appearance -

If they do then they MUST be transphobic !

Talk about double standards.

She is one of those people who can dish it out but can't take it back. And has no qualms playing the 'transphobic' card when people are at odds with her.

I personally think she does more harm than good for Transgenders by being so hypocritical and so quick to unfairly accuse others of prejudice.

Unlike Luke A who has done a huge amount of good for the profile of Transgenders - simply by being a fair and decent person.

In all his clashes with Luke S - he never once resorted to calling him Transphobic ! Nor would he. He is realistic, honest and played it fair.

Luke A deserved his win for being such a good person. Lauren resorts to cheap shots when she clashes with people and therefore in my mind, is not deserving of such a win.

[Mrluvaluva]

You never saw her on BOTS then partnered up with Pete Burns doing the fashion reviews?

No, I haven't. My comments are based on what I have seen of her of course. Although I know Pete is a sarcastic bitchy queen so I can imagine what he was like. -goes to try and find footage-

[Ammi]

No. I think she's lived a very sheltered life and is very naive. She's not malicious. She gets her point across without calling people names etc. I think her parents have kept her child-like and that shows through. She's out of her comfort zone, quite possibly deluded in some respects, but I think a bit of a confidence boost and encouragement could help her.

..I agree with you, she seems to struggle around people and maybe she prefers to just be around one person which could be another reason why she seems to 'cling' to Courtney..she's someone I didn't expect to like as she's had such a 'bitchy persona' on BBOTS, but I think that's just her 'job' and not who she really is, I think this is the first time we're seeing who she really is and she is almost like a child sometimes...

[angbobs]

I think she is playing the victim big time. I also think Emma Willis and BBOTs are bigging her up all the time because she worked for them. She was ruthless on there and had no problem being very nasty and quite vocal about the housemates and now she is trying to come over as all sweet.

[joeysteele]

I think she is playing the victim big time. I also think Emma Willis and BBOTs are bigging her up all the time because she worked for them. She was ruthless on there and had no problem being very nasty and quite vocal about the housemates and now she is trying to come over as all sweet.

I am more with you, she was rather scathing at times as to other people when a guest on bbbots a couple of years back.
She says she has no friends, well for me maybe she needs to ask herself why that is.
Friendship goes 2 ways, you being able to be yourself and the other person also being able to have their opinions and ways too.
Lauren takes any criticism really badly and even when it isn't that bad she feels it for some other reason such as her story being the reason they don't get on with her.

She has surprised me in the house in that she doesn't seem to know or even want to try to really understand and get along with the others.
She observes plenty and has much to say about others but it is the broken look and rather childlike reasoning she has that has made me not like her as a housemate and I would go further to say she shouldn't be a housemate on BB.

She has claimed to want to do this for years,go on BB but although she is not as annoying as I thought she would be, I find her really boring and not entertaining at all as a housemate.

I too am irritated the way bbbots goes on about her and Emma in particular, no housemate should expect special treatment or get it.
Lauren to me is just someone who seems nowhere near ready to take on the BB experience that involves so many other people as equal housemates.
As I said earlier, if she really has no real friends, I can see why she hasn't and she really is likely to blame for that too in my opinion for the way she carries on,especially in the way she,as you point out. plays the victim bigtime.

[EatMyFlan]

She is a very smart person lets not get fooled by the "dumb blonde" act. She is playing for sympathy and the viewers are falling for it,even I was initially until the last few shows. Lets get her out!



I agree with you entirely. People seem to be falling for it though.....Lauren is manipulative. "You won't vote for me will you??" leading Courtney to feel guilty if she did nominate her and Lauren to get her own way....

[EatMyFlan]

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.



It has nothing whatsoever to do with her being transgendered!!! It's because she is a selfish prat who only thinks of herself. Stop being so stupid.

[EatMyFlan]

I don't like louie very much but I 'spose I'm homophobic and it has nothing to do with him being a bitch???? Get a life.

[CaudleHalbard]

Luke A was transgendered. He won his series of BB.

[EatMyFlan]

You see this is what is making me put Lauren as one of my most disliked Celeb HMs of all time. The constant accusation of bullying and victim playing that she indulges in. She is a narcissistic manipulator - the fact she is transgender is neither here nor there. I intensely dislike her personality and no amount of guilt-tripping from her, the posters or the public about her past or her sexuality will make me change that.


You are the only person to make sense.

[waylander1973]

Yes she is.

Lauren does need to go, sadly it's vote to save unless you prepare a ton of money, she will probably make to the final.

Lauren behavior in the house is good example why a vote to evict works.

[jonny123]

Ron wanted to nom her for eviction.....he gave some stupid reason why.....but we all know the real reason he wanted her out.

Now he's out and she's still flouncing around the house in chiffon & heels.

Good for her!

[Waynoo]

Ron wanted to nom her for eviction.....he gave some stupid reason why.....but we all know the real reason he wanted her out.

He wanted
her out as he could see what many of us can now see, which is playing the victim.

[Johnnyuk123]

Lauren is the best one in there and the public decided by voting to keep her in. Well done Lauren!

[calyman]

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.
I once knew a transgendered person and can confirm that almost everythlng you wrote about happened to her also. What saddens me is that cowards find it so easy to gang up on those who are different, yet fail to see in their need for violent abuse; it's the victim who usually has the strength and courage which they lack.

The overiding memory I have of the person that I once knew, is being impressed by her determination to be who she knew she was, despite ignorant
and violent scum thinking they had the right to abuse her with their hatred and intolerence.

[rusticgal]

No. I think she's lived a very sheltered life and is very naive. She's not malicious. She gets her point across without calling people names etc. I think her parents have kept her child-like and that shows through. She's out of her comfort zone, quite possibly deluded in some respects, but I think a bit of a confidence boost and encouragement could help her.

Lauren was a big part of BB 2 years ago...giving her opinion of the housemates as a regular guest. She was very opinionated....hardly a character who lives a solitary life with her mum dad and 2 brothers plus cats and has no part in the outside world. She is a sad person who has found it hard to fit in in everyday life...but then has made herself well known for being an eccentric. Now she is trying to win with the sympathy factor and it doesnt wash with me.

[Pincho Paxton]

I didn't see a sympathy vote, I saw her cleaning the house, which was also entertaining.

[rusticgal]

I think she is playing the victim big time. I also think Emma Willis and BBOTs are bigging her up all the time because she worked for them. She was ruthless on there and had no problem being very nasty and quite vocal about the housemates and now she is trying to come over as all sweet.

Exactly...had she not been so bitchy as a reviewer on BBBOTS a couple of years ago I might have fallen for it....now she is playing the victim...she knows how to play the game and it does not wash with me.

[Waynoo]

Would love her to go,her ego is getting out of control

[Mrluvaluva]

Lauren was a big part of BB 2 years ago...giving her opinion of the housemates as a regular guest. She was very opinionated....hardly a character who lives a solitary life with her mum dad and 2 brothers plus cats and has no part in the outside world. She is a sad person who has found it hard to fit in in everyday life...but then has made herself well known for being an eccentric. Now she is trying to win with the sympathy factor and it doesnt wash with me.

Yeah, I am aware of those facts. I know of some of her other TV work, and some of her life stories. I can recall seeing her as the child prodigy on Wogan and the ensuing media fuss, and some of the progression through her life. I think she has been somewhat smothered by her parents and has had an unusual upbringing which has contributed to her eccentricity. I am not sure about her trying to win sympathy from people though. I think that's just the way she is.

[Deebo]

Let's face it. Lauren was outrageously sexist and misogynistic towards Courtney, tried to poison/murder her and has left a poo on the toilet seat. It's time people stopped seeing her as a victim, however tragic her looks

[Ellen]

Let's face it. Lauren was outrageously sexist and misogynistic towards Courtney, tried to poison/murder her and has left a poo on the toilet seat. It's time people stopped seeing her as a victim, however tragic her looks

A bit dramatic that isnt it :shocked:

[Tozzie]

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

I'm really sorry to hear you have suffered abuse for being who you are, some people are very small minded and cruel. I don't actually agree though with what you say about people who are ok with transgendered people are indeed uncomfortable deep down, it sounds like you are accusing many people of being pretentious and that is not necessarily the case and a little unfair of you to come to that conclusion about everyone. I would be comfortable with anyone be they straight, gay, transgendered, cross dresser etc, as long as people treat me with the respect that they themselves would like then I would be fine with anyone, we are all human beings after all. I do see where you are coming from though, unfortunately there is still a lot of ignorance and small mindedness around, I do however believe as time is going on because of the education of equality and diversity in modern day times people are becoming more and more accepting. I think some, note I say some, transgendered, gay, ethnic minorities could quite possibly blame everything that goes wrong in their lives on the fact that they are 'different' and it could be that perhaps it is their own attitude that may cause the bigotry. I do hope you have plenty of people around you that care about you, family and friends are the only people that matter,. Hold your head up high and be who you want to be, stay around positive people and you will find happiness.

[Waynoo]

Tonight has confirmed I was right. Shes playing the victim.

[Kizzy]

The monologue in the bedroom proves that.

[Pincho Paxton]

It was an entertaining victim, I still enjoyed it.

[DanaC]

That bedroom scene was painful. Tres bizarre.

[smeagol]

shes milking the no friends bull big time and the fact they must like her or its cause of way she is, sad

[Razor]

She is starting to get on my nerves.

[Livia]

I'm not sure she's playing the victim. I think she's damaged. Her gender and the associated issues are just the tip of the iceberg, I reckon. I really do worry for her mental health.

[erinp5]

Watching her tonight on the HL show talking to her picture , was absolutely playing the victim and milking it for all it's worth.

[LANDROVER]

Laurens desperation when nominations were being announced was uncomfortable to watch.
The only time a half smile appeared was when she herself was shown giving her reasons for nominating Louie.
The only thing that can stimulate her is being on camera and film.
I believe they are going to have to drag her out of that house kicking and screaming, or under sedation.

[jscoo47]

Lauren was clearly playing the game talking to the picture in the bedroom. It appears she knows exactly how to play the public.

[Pincho Paxton]

I'd cry if I was looking at that photo, and they were my parents! :joker:

[rionablue]

You are the only person to make sense.

WELL SAID EAT MY FLAN. I totally agree xx

[kistar]

I once knew a transgendered person and can confirm that almost everythlng you wrote about happened to her also. What saddens me is that cowards find it so easy to gang up on those who are different, yet fail to see in their need for violent abuse; it's the victim who usually has the strength and courage which they lack.

The overiding memory I have of the person that I once knew, is being impressed by her determination to be who she knew she was, despite ignorant
and violent scum thinking they had the right to abuse her with their hatred and intolerence.

Not sure where you live but where I am there is a gay/lesbian pub/bar/club that is probably one of thee most popular places to go there are plenty of transgender girls and everyone seems to get on great.

[Waynoo]

I hope she goes but have a feeling her act is fooling many viewers

[Cherie]

I'm really sorry to hear you have suffered abuse for being who you are, some people are very small minded and cruel. I don't actually agree though with what you say about people who are ok with transgendered people are indeed uncomfortable deep down, it sounds like you are accusing many people of being pretentious and that is not necessarily the case and a little unfair of you to come to that conclusion about everyone. I would be comfortable with anyone be they straight, gay, transgendered, cross dresser etc, as long as people treat me with the respect that they themselves would like then I would be fine with anyone, we are all human beings after all. I do see where you are coming from though, unfortunately there is still a lot of ignorance and small mindedness around, I do however believe as time is going on because of the education of equality and diversity in modern day times people are becoming more and more accepting. I think some, note I say some, transgendered, gay, ethnic minorities could quite possibly blame everything that goes wrong in their lives on the fact that they are 'different' and it could be that perhaps it is their own attitude that may cause the bigotry. I do hope you have plenty of people around you that care about you, family and friends are the only people that matter,. Hold your head up high and be who you want to be, stay around positive people and you will find happiness.

:worship: