Courtneys body issues

[Tozzie]

Of course I know its an individuals choice to have a baby or not but I was saddened at Courtneys reason for not wanting a baby. She is terrified her body will be ruined and I think its awful that she is so hung up about it. I realise Courtney is only 19 though and in time may change her mind when she matures. I think it best that a woman can develop a willingness to view bodily changes as part of the journey into motherhood, it shouldn't be something to be feared. I also noticed that whilst talking to Lauren about it she really seemed to think that her body will stay just as it is as she gets older and that just isn't the case unless of course she went down the dangerous anorexic path and I sincerely hope she doesn't go there when her body does begin the natural development of make curves. A womans curves should be celebrated not feared. Lauren was talking a lot of sense about body changes but Courtney really didn't want to take it on board. Last night I found Courtney just like a little girl who doesn't want to grow up. I hope as she gets older that she will embrace her new body.

[MachoPoodle]

I agree about Courtney's body issues being sad, but don't really expect anything else from someone her age having lead the kind of life she's had where it's all about her looks and youth and nothing else. It may or may not change.

However, I don't think there's anything wrong with not wanting to give birth overall. It's not a walk in the park after all. The world has too many people in it as it is and there's an overabundance of unwanted children that need parents, so I see some people choosing adopting over having their biological kids as a positive thing.

[Kizzy]

It's not unusual for girls of 19 to struggle to imagine themselves as mothers, my daughter would rather gouge out her eyes at the moment...... thank god! :laugh:

[sassysocks]

Of course I know its an individuals choice to have a baby or not but I was saddened at Courtneys reason for not wanting a baby. She is terrified her body will be ruined and I think its awful that she is so hung up about it. I realise Courtney is only 19 though and in time may change her mind when she matures. I think it best that a woman can develop a willingness to view bodily changes as part of the journey into motherhood, it shouldn't be something to be feared. I also noticed that whilst talking to Lauren about it she really seemed to think that her body will stay just as it is as she gets older and that just isn't the case unless of course she went down the dangerous anorexic path and I sincerely hope she doesn't go there when her body does begin the natural development of make curves. A womans curves should be celebrated not feared. Lauren was talking a lot of sense about body changes but Courtney really didn't want to take it on board. Last night I found Courtney just like a little girl who doesn't want to grow up. I hope as she gets older that she will embrace her new body.

Interesting how her 'fans' on here don't want to address the obvious issues the girl has with her body. She is an insecure mess and only values herself in an ornamental way - very sad for a young woman in the modern world when there are so many opportunities out there.

She clearly feels the need to attract male attention by looking like a Barbie doll and wants men to lust after her constantly. What she fails to understand is that she is too thin, which isn't very attractive, the hugh boobs on such a tiny frame look comical and cartoon-like and just make her look desperate and dim - a turn-off for a guy who can do better.

Any bloke worth having would want more to a woman than just looks, and quite frankly without the make-up she doesn't even have that. Maybe that is why she has settled for a rich old man, who is less likely to 'move on' once the novelty has worn off. An old man is more likely to be grateful for what he has.

Frankly I don't think she could provide the emotional stability a child would need anyway and she is best off not having children - unless age opens her eyes to the real world.

[Verbal]

wow anyone want some lemon with their bitter?

[Kizzy]

It's been an education for her to get out of Hollywood, to experience life away from 'doug' who seems to be a rather smothering controlling Svengali from what I've seen.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Shes 19.

What average 19 year old even wants a child, her opinion will change as she gets older probably.

[sassysocks]

Shes 19.

What average 19 year old even wants a child, her opinion will change as she gets older probably.

Everyone keeps saying she is 19 - but didn't someone on there say she is actually 23. Not another American wannabee lying about her age then.

[Ellen]

I dont remember her saying she was terrified having a baby would ruin her body, what i did hear her say was she is scared to give birth because she is so little which is a different thing.

[sassysocks]

wow anyone want some lemon with their bitter?

Are you the only one allowed to be cynical then? Any woman doing the same has to be 'bitter' - really. Just the old speil to shut down any female criticism - not very original or intelligent btw.

I just think it's sad when so many young girls seem to celebrate brainless bimbos out to get what they want the easy way. Isn't there more to women these days?

[nina73]

It's been an education for her to get out of Hollywood, to experience life away from 'doug' who seems to be a rather smothering controlling Svengali from what I've seen.

yes I feel the same I felt very sorry for her last night when she said it was hard loving some one so much they want to be with you all the time I got the impression she was being smothered ...

[Verbal]

Are you the only one allowed to be cynical then? Any woman doing the same has to be 'bitter' - really. Just the old speil to shut down any female criticism - not very original or intelligent btw.

I just think it's sad when so many young girls seem to celebrate brainless bimbos out to get what they want the easy way. Isn't there more to women these days?


My post was made after reading your original post on this thread which (in my opininion) is riddled with bitterness. Please don't turn this into some kind of feminist issue.
She is not brainless, she has the most attractive personality in there, again in my opinion.

Not having children for the sake of their bodies is something Hollywood actresses, models, singers etc. have done for generations.

I could go on but I can't be bothered.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Everyone keeps saying she is 19 - but didn't someone on there say she is actually 23. Not another American wannabee lying about her age then.

She is 19.

She got married at 16 and the media would have looked into her background extensively to prove it when the story broke in America as it was such a massive media event there.

She was 100% 16 when she got married.

[sassysocks]

My post was made after reading your original post on this thread which (in my opininion) is riddled with bitterness. Please don't turn this into some kind of feminist issue.
She is not brainless, she has the most attractive personality in there, again in my opinion.

Not having children for the sake of their bodies is something Hollywood actresses, models, singers etc. have done for generations.

I could go on but I can't be bothered.

So attractive that she was quite happy to see the group suffer rather than wear a boiler suit for a while - what a little angel she is! Don't worry - I shall leave you to your delusions about her.

[Tozzie]

So attractive that she was quite happy to see the group suffer rather than wear a boiler suit for a while - what a little angel she is! Don't worry - I shall leave you to your delusions about her.

Her image is quite clearly very important to her, I think people would love her just as much if she walked about in a black bin bag, she is a likable girl and unless one is a shallow person most people see deeper than the outer self. As I see her Courtney has real insecurities about herself and it seems she needs to be seen as looking glamorous and sexy.

[Tozzie]

I agree about Courtney's body issues being sad, but don't really expect anything else from someone her age having lead the kind of life she's had where it's all about her looks and youth and nothing else. It may or may not change.

However, I don't think there's anything wrong with not wanting to give birth overall. It's not a walk in the park after all. The world has too many people in it as it is and there's an overabundance of unwanted children that need parents, so I see some people choosing adopting over having their biological kids as a positive thing.

I agree, as I said in my earlier post, of course its an individual choice to have a child. I wouldn't think anything bad about a woman who chose not to have a child in life, its their life and up to them what they do with it. I wouldn't however like to think that a woman would not have a child because of worries that it may ruin their body. I do find that rather sad.

[Tozzie]

Everyone keeps saying she is 19 - but didn't someone on there say she is actually 23. Not another American wannabee lying about her age then.

I think its Charlotte that is 23 Sassy

[sassysocks]

Her image is quite clearly very important to her, I think people would love her just as much if she walked about in a black bin bag, she is a likable girl and unless one is a shallow person most people see deeper than the outer self. As I see her Courtney has real insecurities about herself and it seems she needs to be seen as looking glamorous and sexy.

I agree she is insecure, but also very superficial. Lots of women are insecure about their looks, and most like to feel sexy - but don't feel the need to model themselves on a doll to get attention. I don't see why people try to make excuses for her.

She didn't like it when others accused her of being superficial and vain - but she is. She either doesn't understand the meaning of the word or she has absolutely no self awareness whatsoever. Personally, I think she knows exactly what she is doing - after all it got her a sugar daddy, and life long wealth.

[Tozzie]

Shes 19.

What average 19 year old even wants a child, her opinion will change as she gets older probably.

As I said in my OP
'I realise Courtney is only 19 though and in time may change her mind when she matures'
I guess time will tell. I would certainly hope that the only reason for her not to have a child would be for fear of a changing body shape as she does seem to have a fear of that by what she said. She seemed shocked if thats the right word? when Lauren suggested her body would probably fill out and would eventually have curves.

[Pincho Paxton]

Having babies isn't important on an over-populated planet. More girls need to think like Courtney, it is the future.

[anne666]

She seems to have been exploited for most of her life. She doesn't know any other way to be. Her husband as she calls him, rarely uses his name is an out of work alcoholic and he seems to mould and exploit her to the full. The videos he has made are NOT those of a loving partner at all. She needs to get out and away from all of them and grow up naturally. She's too damaged to do that IMO.

[Vanessa]

She's only 19, so i'm not surprised. But i think it's wonderful that she wants to adopt. :lovedup:

[alex_front2]

Not all women fill out as they get older, I am a US size 0.

[kistar]

I agree she is insecure, but also very superficial. Lots of women are insecure about their looks, and most like to feel sexy - but don't feel the need to model themselves on a doll to get attention. I don't see why people try to make excuses for her.

She didn't like it when others accused her of being superficial and vain - but she is. She either doesn't understand the meaning of the word or she has absolutely no self awareness whatsoever. Personally, I think she knows exactly what she is doing - after all it got her a sugar daddy, and life long wealth.

I agree entirely.

[MachoPoodle]

I wouldn't however like to think that a woman would not have a child because of worries that it may ruin their body. I do find that rather sad.

I do and I don't. Society has a twisted view on women's appearance overall and that' sad. But at the same time I don't think someone with body issues would necessarily cope very well with those kind of drastic body changes, so although the underlying cause of their anxiety sucks, it may be the best under the circumstances that they don't become pregnant but have kids some other way. But yeah, I think we're probably somewhere on the same page. :wink:

[MachoPoodle]

She didn't like it when others accused her of being superficial and vain - but she is. She either doesn't understand the meaning of the word or she has absolutely no self awareness whatsoever. Personally, I think she knows exactly what she is doing - after all it got her a sugar daddy, and life long wealth.

I think your view of her is disturbing to say the least. She was 16 when she married him, and it's pretty clear from what is known about her parents and upbringing that something was wrong in her family. Besides, no 19 yo knows exactly what they're doing. She is an adult now and she does have responsibility for herself, her actions and her choices. But responsibility is not the same as blame, and she hasn't done anything wrong per se either. I too think she's vain and pretty superficial, but that doesn't automatically make her a bad person.

[Kazanne]

Whats this 'only 19' rubbish!!! there are women and men fighting for our country younger than that,she's an adult albeit a very immature one.

[Pincho Paxton]

Whats this 'only 19' rubbish!!! there are women and men fighting for our country younger than that,she's an adult albeit a very immature one.

People fighting for the country at 19 are showing that they are easily controlled. So it's the same flaw.

[sassysocks]

I think your view of her is disturbing to say the least. She was 16 when she married him, and it's pretty clear from what is known about her parents and upbringing that something was wrong in her family. Besides, no 19 yo knows exactly what they're doing. She is an adult now and she does have responsibility for herself, her actions and her choices. But responsibility is not the same as blame, and she hasn't done anything wrong per se either. I too think she's vain and pretty superficial, but that doesn't automatically make her a bad person.

I never said she was a bad person, but people should acknowledge her issues, not put her on a pedal stool as something to aspire to - when she clearly isn't.

[sassysocks]

People fighting for the country at 19 are showing that they are easily controlled. So it's the same flaw.

Or have more insight and guts than those that don't. God forbid we had noone to protect us - where do you think we would be then? :xyxwave:

[barbel13]

Hollywood exploited her.Men used her and they want her to look in certain way.She is victim of men lust and how they want women to look like.Material world is to blame.As for courtney herself, if one has followed the show from the beginning will notice she is a very very nice girl and NEVER bitch on anyone.She will not harm a fly and amazingly kind hearted the way she treat Lauren and louis when he pretended to be drunk.She also was kind to vicky and gave kind words to her when Bruce was evicted.She also wanted to learn as she asked carol to teach her about life on live feed.The reason she refused to wear the suit is because she thought BB was making fun of her and as a very young girl she felt humiliated.She never swear,fart burp,shout,arguing with the other Housemates.She felt trap in the house and far away from home and she is missing the comfort of her family.she does not have the experience of BB and it is hard for her.Note what big Ron say...it is tough in the house and if it is tough for big Ron it must be 100 tougher for Courtney. Carol and Mario was nasty to her and she never hold grudges and still talk to them. It is not easy to come in a foreign country and get on well with others in a show like that.All credit to her and I DEARLY HOPE SHE WIN because she deserve it compare to the others.Abz to finish second.These two would have make a beautiful couple. So stop being horrible to her and embrace her as the first American winner.As for charlotte she is a product of bad parenting and does not deserve to win.

[Pincho Paxton]

Or have more insight and guts than those that don't. God forbid we had noone to protect us - where do you think we would be then? :xyxwave:

I have guts, if I'm forced to join the army I shoot myself. That's guts. I can't shoot anyone but myself.

[Kazanne]

I have guts, if I'm forced to join the army I shoot myself. That's guts. I can't shoot anyone but myself.

No one is forced and it's not all about shooting people.

[sassysocks]

I have guts, if I'm forced to join the army I shoot myself. That's guts. I can't shoot anyone but myself.

You wouldn't defend yourself, your loved ones or your way of life. You make it sound like those in the forces run around with a gun shooting everything that moves. If they weren't there - we would know about it, and not in a good way.

[Pincho Paxton]

You wouldn't defend yourself, your loved ones or your way of life. You make it sound like those in the forces run around with a gun shooting everything that moves. If they weren't there - we would know about it, and not in a good way.

When I wanted to join the RAF at 16 I was asked if I would kill people, I said no, so they wouldn't let me join. So basically, you do have to be prepared to shoot people in the army.

[Tozzie]

how have we come to be talking about shooting people from Courtneys body issues hehehe

[Pincho Paxton]

how have we come to be talking about shooting people from Courtneys body issues hehehe

Whether 19 year old's can make choices.

[thesheriff443]

some people on here are shooting their mouths off, which is also very dangerous.

[sassysocks]

Hollywood exploited her.Men used her and they want her to look in certain way.She is victim of men lust and how they want women to look like.Material world is to blame.As for courtney herself, if one has followed the show from the beginning will notice she is a very very nice girl and NEVER bitch on anyone.She will not harm a fly and amazingly kind hearted the way she treat Lauren and louis when he pretended to be drunk.She also was kind to vicky and gave kind words to her when Bruce was evicted.She also wanted to learn as she asked carol to teach her about life on live feed.The reason she refused to wear the suit is because she thought BB was making fun of her and as a very young girl she felt humiliated.She never swear,fart burp,shout,arguing with the other Housemates.She felt trap in the house and far away from home and she is missing the comfort of her family.she does not have the experience of BB and it is hard for her.Note what big Ron say...it is tough in the house and if it is tough for big Ron it must be 100 tougher for Courtney. Carol and Mario was nasty to her and she never hold grudges and still talk to them. It is not easy to come in a foreign country and get on well with others in a show like that.All credit to her and I DEARLY HOPE SHE WIN because she deserve it compare to the others.Abz to finish second.These two would have make a beautiful couple. So stop being horrible to her and embrace her as the first American winner.As for charlotte she is a product of bad parenting and does not deserve to win.

Sounds to me that Courtney was a product of bad parenting too.

I don't advocate the kind of behaviour we have seen from Charlotte from men or women - but I would rather a daughter of mine was confident and outspoken than act like a barbie doll and walk around half naked all the time just to please men.

[MachoPoodle]

I never said she was a bad person, but people should acknowledge her issues, not put her on a pedal stool as something to aspire to - when she clearly isn't.

What exactly are you basing this on? Who is putting her on a pedestal? Who has said her life is something to aspire too?

Believe it or not, it is possible to acknowledge that Courtney seems to be a kind and sweet girl while also being vain and shallow. Very few things in life are plain black or white, people included.

[Tozzie]

Whether 19 year old's can make choices.

I'm sorry, I wasn't making fun Pincho, just trying to lighten the thread a little x

[Pincho Paxton]

I'm sorry, I wasn't making fun Pincho, just trying to lighten the thread a little x

Some people say that I throw threads off topic, so I just wanted to explain how I was on topic.

[Kazanne]

how have we come to be talking about shooting people from Courtneys body issues hehehe

Think it was my fault,I was just laughing at how some of the threads turn into something else,:hugesmile:

[hijaxers]

Hollywood exploited her.Men used her and they want her to look in certain way.She is victim of men lust and how they want women to look like.Material world is to blame.As for courtney herself, if one has followed the show from the beginning will notice she is a very very nice girl and NEVER bitch on anyone.She will not harm a fly and amazingly kind hearted the way she treat Lauren and louis when he pretended to be drunk.She also was kind to vicky and gave kind words to her when Bruce was evicted.She also wanted to learn as she asked carol to teach her about life on live feed.The reason she refused to wear the suit is because she thought BB was making fun of her and as a very young girl she felt humiliated.She never swear,fart burp,shout,arguing with the other Housemates.She felt trap in the house and far away from home and she is missing the comfort of her family.she does not have the experience of BB and it is hard for her.Note what big Ron say...it is tough in the house and if it is tough for big Ron it must be 100 tougher for Courtney. Carol and Mario was nasty to her and she never hold grudges and still talk to them. It is not easy to come in a foreign country and get on well with others in a show like that.All credit to her and I DEARLY HOPE SHE WIN because she deserve it compare to the others.Abz to finish second.These two would have make a beautiful couple. So stop being horrible to her and embrace her as the first American winner.As for charlotte she is a product of bad parenting and does not deserve to win.

So can i ask do American 'children' have to get their parents permission to marry at 16 ?
As they do in Britain
Either way Courtneys parents should be shot at dawn - they have enabled their lovely young daughter to become an object for men to oggle !!

[MachoPoodle]

I don't advocate the kind of behaviour we have seen from Charlotte from men or women - but I would rather a daughter of mine was confident and outspoken than act like a barbie doll and walk around half naked all the time just to please men.

Actually, I think Charlotte and Courtney have the same unhealthy need for validation from men. They just go about it in seemingly different ways. Scratch the surface of Charlotte ever so slightly, and it's pretty clear there's no real confidence there.

[thesheriff443]

Think it was my fault,I was just laughing at how some of the threads turn into something else,:hugesmile:

fire starter:xyxwave:

[sassysocks]

Actually, I think Charlotte and Courtney have the same unhealthy need for validation from men. They just go about it in seemingly different ways. Scratch the surface of Charlotte ever so slightly, and it's pretty clear there's no real confidence there.

Maybe - but I feel Courtney's method of conformity to the stereotypes is more contrived with a very mercenary agenda.

[Tozzie]

Think it was my fault,I was just laughing at how some of the threads turn into something else,:hugesmile:

don't they just :hugesmile:

[Tozzie]

Some people say that I throw threads off topic, so I just wanted to explain how I was on topic.

:thumbs::hug:

[Kazanne]

fire starter:xyxwave:

:joker::joker::xyxwave:sheriff:hugesmile:

[MachoPoodle]

Maybe - but I feel Courtney's method of conformity to the stereotypes is more contrived with a very mercenary agenda.

I get your point, but I don't think that's the case. Anyhow, it's depressing either way. I certainly wish the death of all stereotypes as they don't do anyone any good really, in the end.