She is not a game player. I can see why Lauren was upset

[cfromhx02]

She wasn't happy at being awarded as the biggest game player on celebrity BB.It looks like many haven't believed that she is a real woman or that she is nice.

She has been genuinely nervous early on I think as she knows some people will never accept her as a woman and therefore won't understand why she was nervous

and won't accept that she is nice and think she was faking that too probably because many see her as fake as a woman and therefore fake about everything else.

I believe she is nice and believe she was genuinely nervous & has gained in confidence because of Courtney and many in the public who have voted to save her.

It's like she says, she is who she is as I always thought and all her reactions have been genuine

and not a game

[JohnnyBB]

wish she'd climb back into her wannabe hole.

[icecakes]

she's just one big mess if you ask me, abz for the win.

[Nedusa]

It's about time someone called time on the freak show....

[Northern Monkey]

She is trying her very best to win,She is a game player,She's been milking as much positive air time as possible,Playing 'the dumb blonde',trying to get sympathy anytime she feels any slight negativity at all,she's played the fragile ill woman,she's put ideas in peoples heads to cause arguments and got extremely upset about being found out in the awards ceremony and some people fall for it smh.

[the_answers]

She is trying her very best to win,She is a game player,She's been milking as much positive air time as possible,Playing 'the dumb blonde',trying to get sympathy anytime she feels any slight negativity at all,she's played the fragile ill woman,she's put ideas in peoples heads to cause arguments and got extremely upset about being found out in the awards ceremony and some people fall for it smh.
And what's your point ?

Nothing you've said there explains why it's a bad thing or why she shouldn't win.

Please stop implying game playing is wrong. :bawling: :sleep:

Or just like this series you'll end up with a bunch of boring old farts like Vicky and Mario "just being themselves".

[Jords]

People love the tag "game player" when it comes to BB, so annoying LOL.

[Marsh.]

She is playing the game though. People put a negative spin that the phrase means you're a manipulator.

But it's not necessarily. She said she modifies her behaviour to be the best housemate she can be, avoid eviction and stay as long as possible and she would love to win. If someone nominates her for being messy, she cleans up etc.

That makes her a participant and "player" in the game. They all are by default.

[don99]

lauren is playing a game,whether its a good one or not will be down to peoples opinion,nothing wrong with being a player.tactics are another thing,you could say most or all have a game,just different kinds and levels

[the_answers]

People put a negative spin that the phrase means you're a manipulator.
Is being a "manipulator" even wrong ?!!

I couldn't stand Sam (and thought he was uninspiring) yet by the end even I had to admire him for how I perceived he managed to fool huge sections of the public.

What's most frustrating is when BB edit the highlights and show what they want which influences the voting public.
But that's not really the HM's fault - you can only be mindful....

At the end of the day, HM's shouldn't get preferential treatment (not that Charlotte was right !) and no-one likes foul play, bullying etc.

But I really don't see what's wrong with HM's using their strategic skills to sway other HM's or the public onto their side or to their advantage.

If you can be yourself and still be entertaining then great.
But the entertaining housemate just being themselves who really doesn't give a toss about winning (and won't act accordingly or act up to the camera) is a very rare commodity indeed !

Even Charlotte and Mario cosied up to the group and dropped comments about other HM's.
Courtney wasn't particularly a game player but you wonder if even she did a few things on purpose to boost her chances in there.

Sorry but the whole thing is ridiculous.

People complain about Charlotte for not being a "good person".
But really, the issue for many is they want to be entertained more creatively than seeing HM's just using vile, bad or anti-social behaviour.

Surely there must be ONE person out there in the country with a fantastic (and swallowable) gameplan that can't fail ?
If there is, I really want to see them !
It's not like there's not plenty of room for creativity...

[the_answers]

It looks like many haven't believed that she is a real woman or that she is nice.
I think she's real and very nice.
But that doesn't mean I think she doesn't want to win or won't occasionally act. (though tbh I haven't noticed a great deal of it)

But for me, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that at all.
You can be a nice person and still act up in there - it happens all the time !

Gina herself admitted there was nothing wrong with playing a game.
She was a master at it !
Did it mean she wasn't a nice person ?
Of course not, the REAL Gina was lovely ! :)
But when you choose to act you're not being your true self anyway.

If you ask me, that's what people just couldn't get their heads round.
Some took it at face value like it was real life and she was a mean or nasty person. (understandable if you can't tell what's genuine and what's gameplaying)

If you ask me some people seriously need to drop these assumptions that
a) everyone in there should ALWAYS just be themselves 24/7.
b) if they don't and they're fooling or manipulating people in there, it's somehow bad when it might be very clever !

Yes the "real world" is a sh1t and almost everyone hates being conned or deceived.
But this is a gameshow we're talking about...

[Northern Monkey]

And what's your point ?

Nothing you've said there explains why it's a bad thing or why she shouldn't win.

Please stop implying game playing is wrong. :bawling: :sleep:

Or just like this series you'll end up with a bunch of boring old farts like Vicky and Mario "just being themselves".

Never said it was bad,Just that i see through it.

[Daffodil]

I would recommend anyone who thinks of Lauren as a slightly dippy kindly woman, to watch the documentary 'Little Lady Fauntleroy'.

[Amy Jade]

I would recommend anyone who thinks of Lauren as a slightly dippy kindly woman, to watch the documentary 'Little Lady Fauntleroy'.
+1

[sampvt]

Why can't people see through her. It's really sad the way she has brainwashed people into supporting her. Really sad.

[Pincho Paxton]

I would recommend anyone who thinks of Lauren as a slightly dippy kindly woman, to watch the documentary 'Little Lady Fauntleroy'.

I've watched it, and she is completely dippy. She is puppeted by her parents.

[don99]

lauren has only got this far because of bias,without it she would have either gone or changed her game.
my opinion is that the makers don't bb put enough thought into cbb,its much shorter than bb so needs more effort to make it entertaining.

[don99]

lauren has only got this far because of bias,without it she would have either gone or changed her game.
my opinion is that the makers don't bb put enough thought into cbb,its much shorter than bb so needs more effort to make it entertaining.

[Tozzie]

Why can't people see through her. It's really sad the way she has brainwashed people into supporting her. Really sad.

Brainwashed me? Don't be ridiculous. If we support anyone that you don't like we are all apparently brainwashed lmao

[don99]

don't know what happened with my posts,only did one reply (perhaps a bit more is needed)

[Tozzie]

don't know what happened with my posts,only did one reply (perhaps a bit more is needed)

yeah, they do duplicate from time to time, don't worry

[don99]

thanks

[anne666]

Lauren nervous? now that is funny :joker: Nooooo she's being her latest self to the full ! :laugh2::pat:

[Fendertele]

Even if Lauren has a game plan, so what, she's been entertaining and has given us so many comedy gold moments.

[DanaC]

I don't see her as a fake woman. I see her as a woman who is fake. Just like her fakey fraudster family.

Nowt wrong with that. She's a contestant in CBB.

[the_answers]

Never said it was bad,Just that i see through it.
If true, isn't there any part of you who admires her for pulling the wool over people's eyes ?

I really don't understand why people object to her.

It's like people are saying she's acting.
Well if she is, so what ?
It's not like the vast majority of the others aren't !
I just don't get what the problem is.

The winner of BB WILL be an actor of sorts !

[Pincho Paxton]

If true, isn't there any part of you who admires her for pulling the wool over people's eyes ?

I really don't understand why people object to her.

It's like people are saying she's acting.
Well if she is, so what ?
It's not like the vast majority of the others aren't !
I just don't get what the problem is.

The winner of BB WILL be an actor of sorts !

She can't act, she's worse than me at acting! :joker:

[boomoo]

She is trying her very best to win,She is a game player,She's been milking as much positive air time as possible,Playing 'the dumb blonde',trying to get sympathy anytime she feels any slight negativity at all,she's played the fragile ill woman,she's put ideas in peoples heads to cause arguments and got extremely upset about being found out in the awards ceremony and some people fall for it smh.

Lauren has no control over what the public is shown. So a housemate may 'play a game within a game' but BB is in control of what we see.
If Lauren has more confidence it is only the same as Courtney who found that she could survive on her own.

[don99]

i would hope that no hm or management company would have any input on what was shown but if bias is shown it can go against the hm(justified),when that happens it makes the production company look bad,if they put a bit more effort into trying to manipulate the hm's instead of the votes(public)the show would be a lot better.just to let people know i remember seeing the llittle so & so on wogan and have watched more bb than i should admit to and in my opinion if cbb was done better they would have more options on who to put in rater than desperation which it's becoming

[Northern Monkey]

Lauren has no control over what the public is shown. So a housemate may 'play a game within a game' but BB is in control of what we see.
If Lauren has more confidence it is only the same as Courtney who found that she could survive on her own.

Take the GS/Essex task for eg- She stayed up in the tree house acting her ass off all the way through the task then pretended she did'nt know she was supposed to go back down to join the other hm's,That was blatent airtime snatching,She knew full well that would be shown.
Also the Bitchfest task when a question was posed that was not even aimed at her.She immediately jumped in and said " I think I am the best person to answer this",Again blatent airtime snatching.She knows exactly what she's doing,She knows exactly how BB works,She has played for sympathy in the begining then has shown her true colours more and more until finally we end up with 'award gate'(the real Lauren who everybody knows).She's always been an attention ***** in her pursuit to become famous.As soon as she went in and acted all frail and stupid,anybody who has seen her in the past knew that was not her.

[Northern Monkey]

If true, isn't there any part of you who admires her for pulling the wool over people's eyes ?

I really don't understand why people object to her.

It's like people are saying she's acting.
Well if she is, so what ?
It's not like the vast majority of the others aren't !
I just don't get what the problem is.

The winner of BB WILL be an actor of sorts !

Never liked her tbh,From Wogan days,Keith Allen,BBBM appearances etc,Still don't like her now and can see straight through it.She's the ultimate talentless fame *****.I even prefer the talentless Charlotte to Lauren and i'm not a fan of her either.JMHO

[the_answers]

Fair enough !
Even if she's a good gameplayer I think she's overrated myself.

[sampvt]

I guess the main thing people are acting on is the fact that she is so different from the lauren we all now from BBBOTS last year when she was reporting on fashion and campaigning to get on CBB. She has used every trick in the book to be appealing and has managed to hoodwink the public into thinking she is the dizzy blond with problems and is misunderstood.

Now she has been uncovered, her supporters are up in arms and cant see how good a game plan she has. OK its a game but when you need to cheat the public to augment that game plan, it no longer becomes endearing, it crosses that line. If say for example gary Glitter was to go in there and play the good guy, should he win even though we know his back story, answer no........so then why is it that when Lauren does the same thing, we are all asked to forget who she really is. Sorry but I don't buy into that Bull dust. She and her scammer parents don't deserve my vote and wont be getting it either.

Once a scammer, always a scammer so if you want to ask us to accept Lauren for what she is in the house, same goes for Charlotte and she has been way more entertaining than dippy lauren.

[the_answers]

OK its a game but when you need to cheat the public to augment that game plan, it no longer becomes endearing, it crosses that line.
It's been the same for years.
You must have missed it.
Hardly suprising considering you supported Sam !

If say for example gary Glitter was to go in there and play the good guy, should he win even though we know his back story, answer no........
Disagree.

If you let outside prejudice enter the equation you might as well just decide who you like before they even step in there.

If what happens in there doesn't matter (and rapidly starting to think it doesn't !) then in terms of a finding a so called "worthy winner" there's no bloody point in watching it.

[chuff me dizzy]

She wasn't happy at being awarded as the biggest game player on celebrity BB.It looks like many haven't believed that she is a real woman or that she is nice.

She has been genuinely nervous early on I think as she knows some people will never accept her as a woman and therefore won't understand why she was nervous

and won't accept that she is nice and think she was faking that too probably because many see her as fake as a woman and therefore fake about everything else.

I believe she is nice and believe she was genuinely nervous & has gained in confidence because of Courtney and many in the public who have voted to save her.

It's like she says, she is who she is as I always thought and all her reactions have been genuine

and not a game

She has not got a single nerve in her body,shes an obnoxious,attention seeking con artist ,just like her Mother and arsonist Father

[sampvt]

It's been the same for years.
You must have missed it.
Hardly suprising considering you supported Sam !


Disagree.

If you let outside prejudice enter the equation you might as well just decide who you like before they even step in there.

If what happens in there doesn't matter (and rapidly starting to think it doesn't !) then in terms of a finding a so called "worthy winner" there's no bloody point in watching it.

Yes I did support Sam and he won and your next argument sucks. Nobody said it mattered, all I was saying was that if the person inside the house isn't the same as the one in real life then the game plan can be scrutinised and as long as it is a fair and entertaining game plan, then so be it. However Lying and cheating isn't my cup of tea, sorry to see that you applaud it though. Each to their own.

One of the psychologists this week said that the kind of people that want mayhem and debauchery are those that sit alone with the laptop as their only friend and sadly I have a life so I don't subscribe to those thoughts. I tend to think \I represent a generation that abhors scammers but can laugh at stupidity as long as its not deliberately designed to illicit votes.

Lauren falling over and spilling tea isn't real, its put on. Sad you cant see that bit never mind, its all over tonight and the dancing starts.

[don99]

i don't think you can compare lauren to sam bb and cbb should be completely different especially in how you play the hm's

[the_answers]

However Lying and cheating isn't my cup of tea,
Didn't Sam say he didn't want the money ?
Well done for supporting him (and Charlotte) anyway !
Each to their own.

I tend to think \I represent a generation that abhors scammers but can laugh at stupidity as long as its not deliberately designed to illicit votes.
I'm very grateful you don't speak for anyone on here except yourself !

Charlotte's antics aren't designed to illicit votes ?
Do me a favour...

What's a "fair and entertaining" game plan is a matter of opinion.
Some might argue, sitting in 1 big group and slagging off the others is hardly fair.

By nature game plans (where someone gains an advantage and others don't) aren't fair.
Whenever someone loses and someone gains some people will cry foul play.
A bit like Charlotte when she didn't get HER letter.

You talk about "mayhem and debauchery" yet you're voting for Charlotte.
I rest my case !

[sampvt]

Didn't Sam say he didn't want the money ?
Well done for supporting him (and Charlotte) anyway !
Each to their own.


I'm very grateful you don't speak for anyone on here except yourself !

Charlotte's antics aren't designed to illicit votes ?
Do me a favour...

What's a "fair and entertaining" game plan is a matter of opinion.
Some might argue, sitting in 1 big group and slagging off the others is hardly fair.

By nature game plans (where someone gains an advantage and others don't) aren't fair.
Whenever someone loses and someone gains some people will cry foul play.
A bit like Charlotte when she didn't get HER letter.

You talk about "mayhem and debauchery" yet you're voting for Charlotte.
I rest my case !

I wish you would rest your case, you talk ****e and make no sense. You cant even take the time to read a post properly. Did you watch tonight when lauren made the worst dive in history. That's what she is all about, total scammer and she needs no sympathy from anyone. She is trying everything to win but its way too late. BTW I backed Charlotte to win for financial purposes, I like ABZ the most so once again, try reading a post before you puke over people.

[the_answers]

No I didn't see it.
Even if she did, you see it as scamming, I see it as gameplaying.

If it was a good dive she deserves applause, if it was a poor one then she doesn't.
That's how I see it.

You seem to have a problem with her background but I couldn't give a toss.
It's not real life in there, it's a game.

Nothing wrong with wanting to win it.

[sampvt]

No I didn't see it.
Even if she did, you see it as scamming, I see it as gameplaying.

If it was a good dive she deserves applause, if it was a poor one then she doesn't.
That's how I see it.

You seem to have a problem with her background but I couldn't give a toss.
It's not real life in there, it's a game.

Nothing wrong with wanting to win it.

This sums your whole ideal up. Let us all rest now and watch Charlotte take the prize and win me loads.

[the_answers]

If there's nothing they can ever do to change people's opinions because of their past then they're screwed before they even step inside the house.

You're dragging the outside world into it when they should judged solely on what they do in there.

Otherwise there's no point judging their actions in the house or debating the winner.

Sorry you can't speak for yourself and debate without getting personal but it's as simple as that. :xyxwave: