What society do I live in?

[Jemal]

Na seriously that makes Charlotte the winner?
I actually dont get it.

[Lee.]

I agree.. It worries me tbh

[Jack_]

:laugh2:

A few hundred thousand votes on a cult reality TV show is no reflection on the whole of society

Besides, a girl that breaks so many sexist stereotypes (God love her <333) winning is hardly some kind of immoral result...she isn't a murderer

[Jemal]

Guess so

[fingers]

'Tis a teenybopper Twitter/Facebook world!

[Videostar]

Na seriously that makes Charlotte the winner?
I actually dont get it.

It has been a tragic night for Britain...not just the winner but the huge support for that winner, it worries me too.

[CaudleHalbard]

A few hundred thousand votes on a cult reality TV show is no reflection on the whole of society



It is a pointer to what is regarded as not just acceptable but positively desirable in British society and what is worthy of reward.

[Jemal]

It has been a tragic night for Britain...not just the winner but the huge support for that winner, it worries me too.

:laugh2:
Im sorry i agree with this but it made me pmsl.

[the_answers]

Besides, a girl that breaks so many sexist stereotypes (God love her <333) winning is hardly some kind of immoral result
Yeah it's a victory for society all round.
What a great role model !

A few hundred thousand votes on a cult reality TV show is no reflection on the whole of society
Course it is !

Don't worry Jack, you'll be stuck with your boring entertainers next year.
Hope you enjoy weighing up who can fart and swear the most.
RIP Ginxster wannabees. :(

[Lex]

Na seriously that makes Charlotte the winner?
I actually dont get it.

Yep!....This is a very black day for the great british public's decency reputation! :nono:

....I knew it was coming, but tried to keep my faith in the viewer's in-built morality code!...and now just look what happened! :cloud:....I shan't sleep well tonight!

[smudgie]

It is just too funny to even begin to think you can judge society because some girl that breaks wind and wets her bed when drunk wins BB.

:joker::joker::joker:

[Shaun]

i don't think BB viewers are in a position to stand on the soap box, tbh

[Withano]

Big Brother fans ruin the show! She would never win if there was 5 million viewers. Its just the hardcore fans and new fans (children) left and they love twats like this because theyre soooooo entertaining.

[Pincho Paxton]

It's better than Abz, because it keeps Big Brother alive.

[Amy Jade]

Big Brother fans ruin the show! She would never win if there was 5 million viewers. Its just the hardcore fans and new fans (children) left and they love twats like this because theyre soooooo entertaining.
:bored:

[kistar]

Yep!....This is a very black day for the great british public's decency reputation! :nono:

....I knew it was coming, but tried to keep my faith in the viewer's in-built morality code!...and now just look what happened! :cloud:....I shan't sleep well tonight!

Hilarious !

[kistar]

Oops just stumbled onto the Grandad thread sorry bye!

[CaudleHalbard]

Oops just stumbled onto the Grandad thread sorry bye!

No doubt you will be emulating Charlotte?

Will you be wetting your bed tonight in her honour?:rolleyes::D

[Kizzy]

Grandad thread my daughters younger than her and think she's dire, carols 53 and loved her... it's in no way a generational thing.

[Withano]

:bored:

:idc:

[Lee.]

Grandad thread my daughters younger than her and think she's dire, carols 53 and loved her... it's in no way a generational thing.

Agree.. It's a decency thing!

[Jemal]

Oops just stumbled onto the Grandad thread sorry bye!

Im 19. So jog on.

[Marsh.]

It has been a tragic night for Britain...not just the winner but the huge support for that winner, it worries me too.

If your worries for the country boil down to the winner of Big Brother then you need to get caught up on world affairs. ;)

[Seanbon]

:laugh2:

A few hundred thousand votes on a cult reality TV show is no reflection on the whole of society

Besides, a girl that breaks so many sexist stereotypes (God love her <333) winning is hardly some kind of immoral result...she isn't a murderer

That's true,so a deserved winner!!!:devil:

[Black Dagger]

Big Brother fans ruin the show! She would never win if there was 5 million viewers. Its just the hardcore fans and new fans (children) left and they love twats like this because theyre soooooo entertaining.

You must have dreamt Sam being an entertaining twat then or st.

[Withano]

You must have dreamt Sam being an entertaining twat then or st.

They don't always win. Fortunately the nice guy in that scenario was in the final with two uber entertaining people and ended up beating them because of their split vote.

[Ammi]

..why with other BB and CBB winners, it's not been said that they represent 'society today' in some way or it's 'downfall' but with Charlotte it apparently does..it's a TV show, nothing more...

[the truth]

dont ever accept this trash as any form of reality, do not conform to it merely because many morons have been brainwashded by this boring innane drivel. stand by your beliefs and you will ultimately live a better life

[Pincho Paxton]

Big Brother is a social experiment, and Charlotte winning says something about society today. Society has become more daring, and the kids of today are going to become more promiscuous. Girls drink a lot more, and don't really care anymore on average. The hero, and leader of the pack is the one that is the most daring, and most drunk. People have become in general more argumentative, and there is an age divide between strangers that lessens rapidly with none strangers. The boys no longer have to take charge of situations, and the sensible father figure is rapidly becoming a thing of the past. There is a loss of control in society, noise levels will rise, and street layabouts will rise.

[Lee.]

dont ever accept this trash as any form of reality, do not conform to it merely because many morons have been brainwashded by this boring innane drivel. stand by your beliefs and you will ultimately live a better life

Good advice!

[rusticgal]

I could not stand her at first...loud and vile. HOWEVER...that behaviour is just attention seeking. The real Charlotte emerged and showed a sensible and decent side and I think it was that that won people over.

[user104658]

If your worries for the country boil down to the winner of Big Brother then you need to get caught up on world affairs. ;)

This, exactly. It's utterly ridiculous. I bet the people who believe this are the same ones who genuinely believe that the recession is because of benefits claimants and immigrants :rolleyes:. The problems in Britain, in the whole western world, start at the TOP - not the bottom.

Even if this wasn't true, do you really think kids like Charlotte or her fans are the ones drinking MD20/20 in the street with 6 inch blades in their back pockets? Do you think they're the muggers, the violent criminals, or the tragic heroin addicts that litter every small town centre? Do you really think that THIS is "broken britain"?? If you do, I'm sorry but you really need to get off your couch and have a look around. Our society has deep, deep, festering problems but girls like Charlotte farting are not one of them :rolleyes:. Kids like charlotte grow up and become normal people, with normal jobs, and normal families. But because her behaviour makes people uncomfortable, theyre inexplicably managing to twist it into something immoral or indicative of societal problems.

I'm 28 and I can literally look back 7/8 years to University and think of 4 girls I knew just like Charlotte (worse, in some cases) who are now: a doctor, a lawyer, a civil engineer, and a dentist. All on 50k+ salaries and "contributing to society" in ways that most people who would have branded them "products of broken Britain" never will. Not that job titles or salaries even matter. The point is, they are functional people having fun while theyre young. The fact that people want to brand this "immoral" is really, really sad.

[AnnieK]

This, exactly. It's utterly ridiculous. I bet the people who believe this are the same ones who genuinely believe that the recession is because of benefits claimants and immigrants :rolleyes:. The problems in Britain, in the whole western world, start at the TOP - not the bottom.

Even if this wasn't true, do you really think kids like Charlotte or her fans are the ones drinking MD20/20 in the street with 6 inch blades in their back pockets? Do you think they're the muggers, the violent criminals, or the tragic heroin addicts that litter every small town centre? Do you really think that THIS is "broken britain"?? If you do, I'm sorry but you really need to get off your couch and have a look around. Our society has deep, deep, festering problems but girls like Charlotte farting are not one of them :rolleyes:. Kids like charlotte grow up and become normal people, with normal jobs, and normal families. But because her behaviour makes people uncomfortable, theyre inexplicably managing to twist it into something immoral or indicative of societal problems.

I'm 28 and I can literally look back 7/8 years to University and think of 4 girls I knew just like Charlotte (worse, in some cases) who are now: a doctor, a lawyer, a civil engineer, and a dentist. All on 50k+ salaries and "contributing to society" in ways that most people who would have branded them "products of broken Britain" ever will. Not that job titles or salaries even matter. The point is, they are functional people having fun while theyre young. The fact that people want to brand this "immoral" is really, really sad.

Fantastic post :worship:

Completely agree....

[Fendertele]

'Ladies and Gentlemen, step aside Vicky Pollard, and welcome Charlotte Crosby, teach your children well......or suffer the consequences.

[reece(:]

Along with Chantelle, she is the best winner and bitches will deal. :idc:

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes ,its a sad reflection of todays youth when someone like Charlotte wins a show based on amongst other things popularity

[chuff me dizzy]

I could not stand her at first...loud and vile. HOWEVER...that behaviour is just attention seeking. The real Charlotte emerged and showed a sensible and decent side and I think it was that that won people over.

I*agree she did have a nice side to her ,and I just hope it was this side and not her vulgar side what won her the show

[smudgie]

This, exactly. It's utterly ridiculous. I bet the people who believe this are the same ones who genuinely believe that the recession is because of benefits claimants and immigrants :rolleyes:. The problems in Britain, in the whole western world, start at the TOP - not the bottom.

Even if this wasn't true, do you really think kids like Charlotte or her fans are the ones drinking MD20/20 in the street with 6 inch blades in their back pockets? Do you think they're the muggers, the violent criminals, or the tragic heroin addicts that litter every small town centre? Do you really think that THIS is "broken britain"?? If you do, I'm sorry but you really need to get off your couch and have a look around. Our society has deep, deep, festering problems but girls like Charlotte farting are not one of them :rolleyes:. Kids like charlotte grow up and become normal people, with normal jobs, and normal families. But because her behaviour makes people uncomfortable, theyre inexplicably managing to twist it into something immoral or indicative of societal problems.

I'm 28 and I can literally look back 7/8 years to University and think of 4 girls I knew just like Charlotte (worse, in some cases) who are now: a doctor, a lawyer, a civil engineer, and a dentist. All on 50k+ salaries and "contributing to society" in ways that most people who would have branded them "products of broken Britain" never will. Not that job titles or salaries even matter. The point is, they are functional people having fun while theyre young. The fact that people want to brand this "immoral" is really, really sad.

Brilliant post.

I only have to look back to my day, nothing much has changed, girls AND boys have always drank too much took part in toilet humour and enjoyed sex.
That was 40 yeas ago..only difference is we did not have reality TV etc so it was not so much in your face.
We all turned out ok in the end:hugesmile:

[user104658]

I*agree she did have a nice side to her ,and I just hope it was this side and not her vulgar side what won her the show

It's what I like about her - she's a harmless, generally warmhearted girl who happens to be a bit (ok, very) rough around the edges but that surface stuff shouldn't matter. Even when she does play up its out of insecurity because she can't believe that just being herself is "enough" and that is a shame... Not something to hate her for.

But it often seems that people prefer an empty, narcissistic shell of a person - so long as they dress modestly and mind their P's and Q's... even when there's not much underneath. THAT is a sad reflection on society. Choosing meaningless, superficial, taught, "good manners" over a genuinely good heart. Look at the people who DO rise up trough politics. Well spoken, well educated, smartly dressed people who know how to hold their cutlery... but they don't care if you live or die. they don't give a shiny **** about people.

[Patricia4]

It has been a tragic night for Britain...not just the winner but the huge support for that winner, it worries me too.

Worries me too

[user104658]

Ok so case in point: I was just sat on the bus to work and... Behind me there were two junkies merrily discussing where to get the cheapest, best quality gram-for-gram heroin. They were literally having an in depth discussion about the free market economics of the unholy **** that they pump into their veins.

This is why I find it bewildering that people honestly think silly little Charlotte is "everything that's wrong" with society! They must be stumbling through life with their eyes shut because the truth is so much worse that it actually makes the claim freakin hilarious. I would love to still live in that world, where drunk student-type youths are "the worst" we have to put up with.

[Kizzy]

This, exactly. It's utterly ridiculous. I bet the people who believe this are the same ones who genuinely believe that the recession is because of benefits claimants and immigrants :rolleyes:. The problems in Britain, in the whole western world, start at the TOP - not the bottom.

Even if this wasn't true, do you really think kids like Charlotte or her fans are the ones drinking MD20/20 in the street with 6 inch blades in their back pockets? Do you think they're the muggers, the violent criminals, or the tragic heroin addicts that litter every small town centre? Do you really think that THIS is "broken britain"?? If you do, I'm sorry but you really need to get off your couch and have a look around. Our society has deep, deep, festering problems but girls like Charlotte farting are not one of them :rolleyes:. Kids like charlotte grow up and become normal people, with normal jobs, and normal families. But because her behaviour makes people uncomfortable, theyre inexplicably managing to twist it into something immoral or indicative of societal problems.

I'm 28 and I can literally look back 7/8 years to University and think of 4 girls I knew just like Charlotte (worse, in some cases) who are now: a doctor, a lawyer, a civil engineer, and a dentist. All on 50k+ salaries and "contributing to society" in ways that most people who would have branded them "products of broken Britain" never will. Not that job titles or salaries even matter. The point is, they are functional people having fun while theyre young. The fact that people want to brand this "immoral" is really, really sad.

Except there is a huge difference between the two despite their being some similarities when drunk I'm guessing?
The girls in your scenario by charlottes age had finished or were in the latter stages of university. They could hold their bladder sufficiently, conduct conversations adequately and during disagreements could express themselves without swearing and crying?
Where I live 'kids' like charlotte go on to have kids like charlotte, not many of them become reality TV stars.
Anyone who was honest with themselves could not say they would be happy with the thought of their child exhibiting those behaviours.

[Pincho Paxton]

Ok so case in point: I was just sat on the bus to work and... Behind me there were two junkies merrily discussing where to get the cheapest, best quality gram-for-gram heroin. They were literally having an in depth discussion about the free market economics of the unholy **** that they pump into their veins.

This is why I find it bewildering that people honestly think silly little Charlotte is "everything that's wrong" with society! They must be stumbling through life with their eyes shut because the truth is so much worse that it actually makes the claim freakin hilarious. I would love to still live in that world, where drunk student-type youths are "the worst" we have to put up with.

That is the same psychology as Charlotte, so you have identified a problem.

[user104658]

That is the same psychology as Charlotte, so you have identified a problem.

It's absolutely nothing like Charlotte.

[arista]

I agree.. It worries me tbh



Its a blip year


Do not take it so Deep

[Lee.]

Ok so case in point: I was just sat on the bus to work and... Behind me there were two junkies merrily discussing where to get the cheapest, best quality gram-for-gram heroin. They were literally having an in depth discussion about the free market economics of the unholy **** that they pump into their veins.

This is why I find it bewildering that people honestly think silly little Charlotte is "everything that's wrong" with society! They must be stumbling through life with their eyes shut because the truth is so much worse that it actually makes the claim freakin hilarious. I would love to still live in that world, where drunk student-type youths are "the worst" we have to put up with.

It's people's general disrespect for others that's the problem with society, and I'm afraid Charlotte and her type are included in that...as are the junkies, the criminals etc.
Decency seems to have been slung out the window

[user104658]

Except there is a huge difference between the two despite their being some similarities when drunk I'm guessing?
The girls in your scenario by charlottes age had finished or were in the latter stages of university. They could hold their bladder sufficiently, conduct conversations adequately and during disagreements could express themselves without swearing and crying?
Where I live 'kids' like charlotte go on to have kids like charlotte, not many of them become reality TV stars.
Anyone who was honest with themselves could not say they would be happy with the thought of their child exhibiting those behaviours.

The only part - and I say this in all honesty as a dad of 2 girls - that I wouldn't like so much is the being unable to be in a heated discussion without breaking down. But that us 100% down to her struggling to cope with frustration and anger. I would blame myself in that case.

The rest of it? No i would have no problem with my daughters being like that at 23. At 30? Maybe. But 23 is just a baby! I know "society" has a ridiculous expectation that anyone over 18 (or 21) should be a fully fledged "adult at all times" but its utter nonsense. Let the girl be young.

[Black Dagger]

I*agree she did have a nice side to her ,and I just hope it was this side and not her vulgar side what won her the show

Yes we should all grow up to be alcoholics, sleeping with people 30 years our youth (not that there is anything wrong with dating whoever you want, I support Doug and Courtney) and spout venom out of our mouths every day instead, much better representative.

[user104658]

It's people's general disrespect for others that's the problem with society, and I'm afraid Charlotte and her type are included in that...as are the junkies, the criminals etc.
Decency seems to have been slung out the window

It's hypocrisy, anyone who goes online to judge and sling mud has a general disrespect for others so I'm afraid half of this forum are "included" with the junkies, criminals and Charlottes :rolleyes:.

I have no doubt I'll be banned soon as I've been warned twice for reiterating that. But I dont really care. It's a fact. Charlotte is a lot more respectful of people than the forum members intent on tearing her down are, and I have infinitely more respect for her as a member of society than I do for them.

[Amy Jade]

Toy Soldier won this thread so easily haha

[Pincho Paxton]

It's hypocrisy, anyone who goes online to judge and sling mud has a general disrespect for others so I'm afraid half of this forum are "included" with the junkies, criminals and Charlottes :rolleyes:.

I have no doubt I'll be banned soon as I've been warned twice for reiterating that. But I dont really care. It's a fact. Charlotte is a lot more respectful of people than the forum members intent on tearing her down are, and I have infinitely more respect for her as a member of society than I do for them.

Charlotte showed no respect in the house.

[Lee.]

It's hypocrisy, anyone who goes online to judge and sling mud has a general disrespect for others so I'm afraid half of this forum are "included" with the junkies, criminals and Charlottes :rolleyes:.

I have no doubt I'll be banned soon as I've been warned twice for reiterating that. But I dont really care. It's a fact. Charlotte is a lot more respectful of people than the forum members intent on tearing her down are, and I have infinitely more respect for her as a member of society than I do for them.

First if all you know jack **** about me, so don't presume that just because I have opinions on a reality tv show star, I must be disrespectful of others!

I try to show respect and empathy for people from all walks of life regardless of background, age etc as long as they deserve that respect. To me good morals, modesty, and an awareness of other people's feelings are traits which deserve respect!

[Lee.]

Charlotte showed no respect in the house.

Yes, exactly! She did not consider other people at all!

[Chuckyegg]

A society that is perpetuated by the people who enjoy reality and pseudoreality television.

[Tozzie]

Except there is a huge difference between the two despite their being some similarities when drunk I'm guessing?
The girls in your scenario by charlottes age had finished or were in the latter stages of university. They could hold their bladder sufficiently, conduct conversations adequately and during disagreements could express themselves without swearing and crying?
Where I live 'kids' like charlotte go on to have kids like charlotte, not many of them become reality TV stars.
Anyone who was honest with themselves could not say they would be happy with the thought of their child exhibiting those behaviours.

I'd be horrified if I had a daughter that went on national TV telling everyone she'd had a cock up every orifice, and talking about sucking off her boyfriend. Charlotte was all about the shock factor and likes to talk about chit, thats something I may expect from a 16 year old. At 23 years old I would expect more maturity, 23 is young but certainly not a baby.

[Amy Jade]

I'm even more glad she won as it winds people up, it's like Aaron all over again!

[Kizzy]

The only part - and I say this in all honesty as a dad of 2 girls - that I wouldn't like so much is the being unable to be in a heated discussion without breaking down. But that us 100% down to her struggling to cope with frustration and anger. I would blame myself in that case.

The rest of it? No i would have no problem with my daughters being like that at 23. At 30? Maybe. But 23 is just a baby! I know "society" has a ridiculous expectation that anyone over 18 (or 21) should be a fully fledged "adult at all times" but its utter nonsense. Let the girl be young.

And there we have it... This misconception that anyone under 25 is not capable of rational thought! Where did this ideology come from?
The only reason for this shift is apologists like yourself who fail to acknowledge their child is actually a grown up.. and can and should be fully functional in the adult world.
They are NOT children, and I would have thought anyone at 23/4 working, having relationships and everyday interactions would be most offended that you believe them to be so emotionally retarded.

[Kizzy]

Toy Soldier won this thread so easily haha

What do you mean by 'won' stupidhoe?

[Pincho Paxton]

You can tell the fans of Charlotte even in this thread have some lack of respect.

[Tozzie]

I'm even more glad she won as it winds people up, it's like Aaron all over again!

Why does it make you happy that people may be wound up? I'm guessing you are a fan of Charlotte but find it odd that you are more pleased she won on the fact that others may be wound up rather than wanting her to win because you liked her. What an odd comment to make. Its nothing like Aaron, I was over the moon when Aaron won.

[Amy Jade]

What do you mean by 'won' stupidhoe?
He has made the most sense imo, I think people who genuinely believe Charlotte winning is some sort of proof of the decline of the UK are either a bit ignorant to what is actually happening around us or they're just naive.

I've seen her called so many vicious names, such as scum - she's a girl from Newcastle who swears and wets the bed but if that really gets people questioning society while people are stabbed in the street and murdered every day I question what rock certain people live under if the likes of Charlotte are what they class as the dregs of society.

[Pincho Paxton]

He has made the most sense imo, I think people who genuinely believe Charlotte winning is some sort of proof of the decline of the UK are either a bit ignorant to what is actually happening around us or they're just naive.

I've seen her called so many vicious names, such as scum - she's a girl from Newcastle who swears and wets the bed but if that really gets people questioning society while people are stabbed in the street and murdered every day I question what rock certain people live under if the likes of Charlotte are what they class as the dregs of society.

You have an avatar called Stupid Hoe, and you don't like people calling a girl from Newcastle names. It's a contradiction.

[Amy Jade]

Why does it make you happy that people may be wound up? I'm guessing you are a fan of Charlotte but find it odd that you are more pleased she won on the fact that others may be wound up rather than wanting her to win because you liked her. What an odd comment to make. Its nothing like Aaron, I was over the moon when Aaron won.

Where did I say I was more pleased she won to wind people up than just because I genuinely like Charlotte? stop manipulating what people say to fit with your agenda.

[anne666]

Anyone else heard that Sophie was taken out of the compound by security drunk? She wasn't on BOTS.

[Tozzie]

Where did I say I was more pleased she won to wind people up than just because I genuinely like Charlotte? stop manipulating what people say to fit with your agenda.

you said you were even more pleased she won because people were getting wound up.

[Pincho Paxton]

I'm even more glad she won as it winds people up, it's like Aaron all over again!

You constantly contradict yourself.

Why does it make you happy that people may be wound up?

Where did I say I was more pleased she won to wind people up than just because I genuinely like Charlotte? stop manipulating what people say to fit with your agenda.

[Amy Jade]

Anyone else heard that Sophie was taken out of the compound by security drunk? She wasn't on BOTS.

Wouldn't surprise me, she seemed intoxicated on the 8:30 highlight show.

[Kizzy]

He has made the most sense imo, I think people who genuinely believe Charlotte winning is some sort of proof of the decline of the UK are either a bit ignorant to what is actually happening around us or they're just naive.

I've seen her called so many vicious names, such as scum - she's a girl from Newcastle who swears and wets the bed but if that really gets people questioning society while people are stabbed in the street and murdered every day I question what rock certain people live under if the likes of Charlotte are what they class as the dregs of society.

To you maybe as you agree with him, others don't.
Nobody has won or lost it's a topic that is in discussion.
I haven't suggested that charlotte winning is proof of moral decline, what is happening around us?
Nobody is 'living under a rock' for questioning why charlotte won, it doesn't mean they are ignorant or naïve.

[Amy Jade]

You constantly contradict yourself.

How is it a contradiction?

I loved Charlotte even before she was on CBB and championed her all the way, it's just an added bonus it's annoyed some people, not the soul reason I am glad she won, neither is it now I better reason

[Amy Jade]

To you maybe as you agree with him, others don't.
Nobody has won or lost it's a topic that is in discussion.
I haven't suggested that charlotte winning is proof of moral decline, what is happening around us?
Nobody is 'living under a rock' for questioning why charlotte won, it doesn't mean they are ignorant or naïve.

I disagree. He won it on page one imo.

[reece(:]

SH, you don't need to explain yourself. The country have decided Charlotte is their winner, and that is fact. She has the crown. :xyxwave:

[Amy Jade]

SH, you don't need to explain yourself. The country have decided Charlotte is their winner, and that is fact. She has the crown. :xyxwave:

That's true! just a bit sick of the drama queens saying the fact she won means the country is in dire straights. Such a silly over reaction in my opinion.

[Kizzy]

I disagree. He won it on page one imo.

What did he win?

[Kizzy]

That's true! just a bit sick of the drama queens saying the fact she won means the country is in dire straights. Such a silly over reaction in my opinion.

To be fair stupidhoe you are the only one suggesting that there's a link to charlotte winning and the country being in 'dire straights' I certainly haven't said that and I haven't seen anyone else say it either.
I have an opinion that I have voiced has have you.

[smeagol]

oh is bb over. i take it charlotte won lol
oh well not really much to choose from they were all pretty awful. worst bb ever hardly watched it. hope they get better people next time.

shame a disgusting animal like her is a winner though who came 2nd etc

[Amy Jade]

What did he win?

My respect.

[Kizzy]

My respect.

That's nice.

[Pincho Paxton]

I don't know how anyone can argue really about Charlotte. She sits down with Emma to have a chat, and her first line is...

"I don't know how I won really, my behaviour is unacceptable."

[daniel-lewis-1985]

BB does not represent the whole of the UK society though does it lol especially when its struggled to even stay around the 2 million mark.

Its a tv show not your real life maybe people should realise this and separate real life from a reality tv show.

[Cherie]

Anyone else heard that Sophie was taken out of the compound by security drunk? She wasn't on BOTS.

Oh dear how embarrassing if true, especially given her spiel about how women over a certain age should behave.:joker:

[Kazanne]

SH, you don't need to explain yourself. The country have decided Charlotte is their winner, and that is fact. She has the crown. :xyxwave:

It was the same with Sam:hugesmile:

[Kizzy]

It was the same with Sam:hugesmile:

that's very true... :laugh:

[Seanbon]

This, exactly. It's utterly ridiculous. I bet the people who believe this are the same ones who genuinely believe that the recession is because of benefits claimants and immigrants :rolleyes:. The problems in Britain, in the whole western world, start at the TOP - not the bottom.

Even if this wasn't true, do you really think kids like Charlotte or her fans are the ones drinking MD20/20 in the street with 6 inch blades in their back pockets? Do you think they're the muggers, the violent criminals, or the tragic heroin addicts that litter every small town centre? Do you really think that THIS is "broken britain"?? If you do, I'm sorry but you really need to get off your couch and have a look around. Our society has deep, deep, festering problems but girls like Charlotte farting are not one of them :rolleyes:. Kids like charlotte grow up and become normal people, with normal jobs, and normal families. But because her behaviour makes people uncomfortable, theyre inexplicably managing to twist it into something immoral or indicative of societal problems.

I'm 28 and I can literally look back 7/8 years to University and think of 4 girls I knew just like Charlotte (worse, in some cases) who are now: a doctor, a lawyer, a civil engineer, and a dentist. All on 50k+ salaries and "contributing to society" in ways that most people who would have branded them "products of broken Britain" never will. Not that job titles or salaries even matter. The point is, they are functional people having fun while theyre young. The fact that people want to brand this "immoral" is really, really sad.

I agree fully that there's an awful lot more problems in the world to keep us occupied,but at this point in time we're debating a TV show,and whether Charlotte is a product of society? Obviously it's not her job to set a good example,if she doesn't want to,but some people will follow her example,while others will be dismayed!
However,as regards the girls you knew in uni,there's a huge difference. They were studying in order to get qualifications to pursue their chosen careers,and obviously from time to time would let off steam!?! This is Charlotte's life,and with due respect,I can't imagine her heading to uni in the near future. She seems nice enough,when she's not performing,but when performing,she's cringe-worthy!!

[Kazanne]

that's very true... :laugh:

Love that we don't have to explain things Kizzy:hugesmile:

[the truth]

I agree fully that there's an awful lot more problems in the world to keep us occupied,but at this point in time we're debating a TV show,and whether Charlotte is a product of society? Obviously it's not her job to set a good example,if she doesn't want to,but some people will follow her example,while others will be dismayed!
However,as regards the girls you knew in uni,there's a huge difference. They were studying in order to get qualifications to pursue their chosen careers,and obviously from time to time would let off steam!?! This is Charlotte's life,and with due respect,I can't imagine her heading to uni in the near future. She seems nice enough,when she's not performing,but when performing,she's cringe-worthy!!
still important to denounce her vile behaviour as a dreadful example to the millions of impressionable people who follow her as a role model

[muchadoaboutnothing]

still important to denounce her vile behaviour as a dreadful example to the millions of impressionable people who follow her as a role model

Agree with you 100%.

[reece(:]

It was the same with Sam:hugesmile:
Not really since Sam didn't win on merit because he did nothing, the public have redeemed themselves now crowning Charlotte though.

[user104658]

still important to denounce her vile behaviour as a dreadful example to the millions of impressionable people who follow her as a role model

Who in this year's CBB would you prefer as a role model for young people? And why? I can understand why some people can't get on board with Charlotte but, genuinely, every single other person in there was worse, with the possible exception of Dustin Diamond, who seemed fairly normal and level headed.

The place was full of ex junkies, alcoholics, narcissists and a big ol' racist.

[calyman]

How is it a contradiction?

I loved Charlotte even before she was on CBB and championed her all the way, it's just an added bonus it's annoyed some people, not the soul reason I am glad she won, neither is it now I better reason

"Originally Posted by StupidHoe View Post
I'm even more glad she won as it winds people up, it's like Aaron all over again!
You constantly contradict yourself.

Originally Posted by Tozzie View Post
Why does it make you happy that people may be wound up?

Originally Posted by StupidHoe View Post
Where did I say I was more pleased she won to wind people up than just because I genuinely like Charlotte? stop manipulating what people say to fit with your agenda."

Please read above, below and between the lines stupidHoe

[Kazelle]

I think it's sad that Charlotte won, in my opinion she's just been given the green light to carry on along a road that will no doubt end in self destruction. Shame.

[chuff me dizzy]

First if all you know jack **** about me, so don't presume that just because I have opinions on a reality tv show star, I must be disrespectful of others!

I try to show respect and empathy for people from all walks of life regardless of background, age etc as long as they deserve that respect. To me good morals, modesty, and an awareness of other people's feelings are traits which deserve respect!

Well said ,respect has to earned,its not a God given right

[Kizzy]

Well said ,respect has to earned,its not a God given right

I totally agree chuff, the 'she's young' argument is silly there is of course going to be some you don't support it doesn't mean you don't support any younger housemates. :conf:

[Lee.]

I totally agree chuff, the 'she's young' argument is silly there is of course going to be some you don't support it doesn't mean you don't support any younger housemates. :conf:

Courtney was one of my favourite housemates this year..

[Kizzy]

Courtney was one of my favourite housemates this year..

And mine, I wouldn't take any comments to heart lee...
You do have to pinch yourself though don't you, and think ' Is it me? am I just really intolerant'? and then you think ' No!' :joker:

[Lee.]

And mine, I wouldn't take any comments to heart lee...
You do have to pinch yourself though don't you, and think ' Is it me? am I just really intolerant'? and then you think ' No!' :joker:

I'm not intolerant at all.. I have a lot if time for people and tend to try and see good in people... But I can't be ****ed with "celebs" who are famous for nothing but being arseholes!... And unfortunately our current culture seem to embrace them. It makes me mad :bored:

[Tozzie]

And mine, I wouldn't take any comments to heart lee...
You do have to pinch yourself though don't you, and think ' Is it me? am I just really intolerant'? and then you think ' No!' :joker:

I'm not intolerant I AM RIGHT

hahaha only joking

[Kizzy]

I'm not intolerant at all.. I have a lot if time for people and tend to try and see good in people... But I can't be ****ed with "celebs" who are famous for nothing but being arseholes!... And unfortunately our current culture seem to embrace them. It makes me mad :bored:

And breathe.... :laugh: I totally get it lee I feel the same.

[Marsh.]

And mine, I wouldn't take any comments to heart lee...
You do have to pinch yourself though don't you, and think ' Is it me? am I just really intolerant'? and then you think ' No!' :joker:

:laugh:

[user104658]

Courtney was one of my favourite housemates this year..

Ahh, Courtney! A 19 year old so insecure, and so lacking any sense of self, that she has permanently damaged her young body and given herself guaranteed long-term health issues through excessive surgical enhancements... Oh, and who uses said enhanced body to gain attention by constantly wearing no clothes.

Role model?

[Lee.]

Ahh, Courtney! A 19 year old so insecure, and so lacking any sense of self, that she has permanently damaged her young body and given herself guaranteed long-term health issues through excessive surgical enhancements... Oh, and who uses said enhanced body to gain attention by constantly wearing no clothes.

Role model?

She had a million times more decency in her left tit than Charlotte had in her whole body.. And she isn't as rough as ****. Simple as

[megamaja40]

Charlotte will never change.... She's vulgar, obnoxious, loud, crass etc...
She won because of all these and she knows It! She said she knows her behaviour is unacceptable....She's a spoilt brat with no respect for herself or her family.

[anne666]

Charlotte will never change.... She's vulgar, obnoxious, loud, crass etc...
She won because of all these and she knows It! She said she knows her behaviour is unacceptable....She's a spoilt brat with no respect for herself or her family.

I think she can't take any criticism from the public. She proved that. GS is her only experience so far, people choose to watch it and she is lauded by that section of society. I see her disappearing unless she adapts to the price of any"fame" she may go on to have after this. Even if she changes herself into something more than representing the under belly of society. Mario to a lesser degree. Neither have served any apprenticeship and require zero talent to do their job. Like so many young people they only seek fame but can't deal with the consequences or failure.

[Kizzy]

She had a million times more decency in her left tit than Charlotte had in her whole body.. And she isn't as rough as ****. Simple as

:joker::joker:

Oh so now we have to start talking about role models I see?,,,,
Charlotte can be, do, see, say anything she wants, but the same can't be said for Courtney?
At 19 she is not to express herself as she sees fit as that would be wrong. This stinks of hypocrisy to me, how about you lee?

[the truth]

she straight back to twitter selling anything and everything to her worshippers. this vileness makes you filthy rich in the supposedly "Great" britain. what a fantastic moral.

[anne666]

she straight back to twitter selling anything and everything to her worshippers. this vileness makes you filthy rich in the supposedly "Great" britain. what a fantastic moral.

She certainly will never be filthy rich from GS. Where she thinks she'll go from there is beyond me.

[rionablue]

I was happy enough Charlotte won. She is brash and not well mannered and has said and done things that would make anyone cringe. But when all is said in done I found her the most entertaining by a clear mile. I have NO IDEA why Abz came second as he was like the wallpaper of the house. Carol was bitchy and not a nice person and Lauren was so insecure. Vicky was cranky and cantankerous and preachy to the younger ones. I liked Mario but when you look at the final lineup Charlotte with her over a million twitter followers was always going to win when it came to voting

[Jake.]

I honestly couldn't care less. She won, it's over, she and the rest of the series will be forgotten about come next week, a couple of thousand votes don't represent this country in some kind of decline.

[CaudleHalbard]

Charlotte Who? ;)

[Tozzie]

I was happy enough Charlotte won. She is brash and not well mannered and has said and done things that would make anyone cringe. But when all is said in done I found her the most entertaining by a clear mile. I have NO IDEA why Abz came second as he was like the wallpaper of the house. Carol was bitchy and not a nice person and Lauren was so insecure. Vicky was cranky and cantankerous and preachy to the younger ones. I liked Mario but when you look at the final lineup Charlotte with her over a million twitter followers was always going to win when it came to voting

I found Lauren just as entertaining but the entertainment Charlotte provided for me was very negative while I found Lauren positively intriguing, good fun and quite comical. But like someone just said, its all over now. Wish BB14 was still on, miss that show!