"My behaviours not acceptable really"

[the_answers]

Yet she didn't wait more than a few seconds before talking about farting again.

But don't worry...
Emma says she a lovely lady so it must be true !

What has she learnt in there ?
Probably that you can get away with anything !

As Emma said to Courtney "Thanks for your body" Charlotte - you really shouldn't have bothered.

A piss poor winner for a piss poor series.

[Verbal]

If the worst you can think of to criticise her is to say she talks about farting then she is doing quite well.

There are grown adults who have made a very good living out of toilet humour (no pun intended). See Rik Mayall, Ade Edmondson.

[Kizzy]

If the worst you can think of to criticise her is to say she talks about farting then she is doing quite well.

There are grown adults who have made a very good living out of toilet humour (no pun intended). See Rik Mayall, Ade Edmondson.

Oi!..... ;)

[Verbal]

Oi!..... ;)

I'm not digging at them :joker: Bottom is one of my favourite shows ever :dance:

[Alf]

If the worst you can think of to criticise her is to say she talks about farting then she is doing quite well.

There are grown adults who have made a very good living out of toilet humour (no pun intended). See Rik Mayall, Ade Edmondson.
There's a difference between toilet humour and toilet talk

I've just farted, OOOOOOOOOOOO MYYYYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

Anyway, i'm getting mortal, please like me

[Verbal]

There's a difference between toilet humour and toilet talk

I've just farted, OOOOOOOOOOOO MYYYYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

Anyway, i'm getting mortal, please like me

There really isnt. I've seen Rik and Ade do a live stage show where they did nothing but make fart jokes for about 45 mins. Both of them are old enough to be her father.

[Kizzy]

She isn't doing that as a career, she is not a successful writer/actor/comedian/winner of celeb masterchef is she though?
She is just a northern lass... you could walk into a nightclub in any town and find 50 lasses just like her.
As parent primary socialisation is teaching your child what is and is not socially acceptable. This woman flies in the face of all that, I fail to see the positive in anything she does or says and god knows I've tried.

[Verbal]

She isn't doing that as a career, she is not a successful writer/actor/comedian/winner of celeb masterchef is she though?
She is just a northern lass... you could walk into a nightclub in any town and find 50 lasses just like her.
As parent primary socialisation is teaching your child what is and is not socially acceptable. This woman flies in the face of all that, I fail to see the positive in anything she does or says and god knows I've tried.

Why do you think the two men in your signature do what they do? Because people find it funny and there are people that are like that...

[the_answers]

If the worst you can think of to criticise her is to say she talks about farting then she is doing quite well.

There are grown adults who have made a very good living out of toilet humour (no pun intended). See Rik Mayall, Ade Edmondson.
It's not really her I'm annoyed at, it's the "gameshow" series.

If that's gameshow entertainment then the series is going downhill bigtime.

Rik Mayall and Ade Edmonson were funny and tongue in cheek but they weren't vulgar because it wasn't portrayed as sincere.

She's trying to be funny but it's just not.

What's disappointing about Charlotte is is to hear some half hearted apology and see no lessons have really been learnt.

[Alf]

There really isnt. I've seen Rik and Ade do a live stage show where they did nothing but make fart jokes for about 45 mins. Both of them are old enough to be her father.
To even be comparing Charlotte to Rik and Ade is sheer madness and scary, so i don't want to take part in this debate no more.

[Verbal]

To even be comparing Charlotte to Rik and Ade is sheer madness and scary, so i don't want to take part in this debate no more.

Its people like her that make up the large majority of their audience.

[Verbal]

Am I in a parallel universe or is someone voluntarily calling themselves 'wanna shag' trying to get all moral with me? Jesus wept.

[Pincho Paxton]

This year's winner!!!

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2584&stc=1&d=1379114264

[Kizzy]

Why do you think the two men in your signature do what they do? Because people find it funny and there are people that are like that...

They are writers, the characters come from their imagination... They may be loosely based on real people and exaggerated.
Charlotte is a real person.

[Amy Jade]

Am I in a parallel universe or is someone voluntarily calling themselves 'wanna shag' trying to get all moral with me? Jesus wept.
haha such a good point!

[Verbal]

They are writers, the characters come from their imagination... They may be loosely based on real people and exaggerated.
Charlotte is a real person.

Hence my point.

[Alf]

Its people like her that make up the large majority of their audience.
Exactly, i'm a part of their audience, and she's like me, i'm from North East England, and like me she isn't TV entertainment, she should stay to being that audience member.

It's not her fault that the modern World as no concept of whats entertainment anymore, and believe watching a group of Geordies have a night out, come home and have a kebab, then pass out mindlessly pis*ed, is entertainment.

Whilst Rik and Ade were writers and performers, who put in lots of hours writing and rehearsing, to put on a show, I couldn't do that, and many people couldn't, but I and millions of people could go on the town and have a kebab.

[Kizzy]

Hence my point.

What point? you have no point.
People laugh at bottom because its fantasy, nobody would attack their best friend with a frying pan, drop a TV on their head or stick their hand in a toaster.....
Would I condone it if they did?... No!
How are you linking this to charlottes behaviour in the house?

[Verbal]

Exactly, i'm a part of their audience, and she's like me, i'm from North East England, and like me she isn't TV entertainment, she should stay to being that audience member.

It's not her fault that the modern World as no concept of whats entertainment anymore, and believe watching a group of Geordies have a night out, come home and have a kebab, then pass out mindlessly pis*ed, is entertainment.

Whilst Rik and Ade were writers and performers, who put in lots of hours writing and rehearsing, to put on a show, I couldn't do that, and many people couldn't, but I and millions of people could go on the town and have a kebab.

She isnt TV entertainment?

Shes just won BB and she has her own show on MTV. She may not be your cup of tea, but she is the epitome of modern day TV entertainment, whether you like it or not.

It seems you have a problem with TV execs, and should maybe direct your energies at them, and not some dopey Geordie girl who is just making the most of the opportunities that are presented to her.

[Alf]

Am I in a parallel universe or is someone voluntarily calling themselves 'wanna shag' trying to get all moral with me? Jesus wept.
Calm down sweetheart

[Amy Jade]

What point? you have no point.
People laugh at bottom because its fantasy, nobody would attack their best friend with a frying pan, drop a TV on their head or stick their hand in a toaster.....
Would I condone it if they did?... No!
How are you linking this to charlottes behaviour in the house?
Ever seen Jackass?

[the_answers]

Am I in a parallel universe or is someone voluntarily calling themselves 'wanna shag' trying to get all moral with me? Jesus wept.
Says the person who's got 2 arse cheeks as his signature...:joker:

[Kizzy]

Ever seen Jackass?

Is charlotte in it?.... what's your point?

[Marsh.]

What point? you have no point.
People laugh at bottom because its fantasy, nobody would attack their best friend with a frying pan, drop a TV on their head or stick their hand in a toaster.....
Would I condone it if they did?... No!
How are you linking this to charlottes behaviour in the house?

Exactly, it's like saying because you enjoyed watching a film about a murder that you would also enjoy watching a real life murderer.

[Alf]

It seems you have a problem with TV execs, and should maybe direct your energies at them, and not some dopey Geordie girl who is just making the most of the opportunities that are presented to her.
Read the second sentence of my post, you'll see i'm not having a go at her

[Verbal]

What point? you have no point.
People laugh at bottom because its fantasy, nobody would attack their best friend with a frying pan, drop a TV on their head or stick their hand in a toaster.....
Would I condone it if they did?... No!
How are you linking this to charlottes behaviour in the house?
Now you're completely contradicting yourself. You're just looking for an argument.
The point - that their characters are based on real people. You've said that they are an exaggerated version of real people (hence the over the top violence etc.), as much as she would no doubt like to I don't think Charlotte would be capable of blowing a flame out of her ass as Rik has done on many occasion).

[the_answers]

Ever seen Jackass?
Are they competing to win a prize ?
Serious question, I don't know.

[Amy Jade]

Is charlotte in it?.... what's your point?
You said people wouldn't find it funny if friends attacked each other, in Jackass they do pretty much that and it was massive and has spawned like 4 movies and made Johnny Knoxville a big star.

That's my point.

[Seanbon]

Exactly, i'm a part of their audience, and she's like me, i'm from North East England, and like me she isn't TV entertainment, she should stay to being that audience member.

It's not her fault that the modern World as no concept of whats entertainment anymore, and believe watching a group of Geordies have a night out, come home and have a kebab, then pass out mindlessly pis*ed, is entertainment.

Whilst Rik and Ade were writers and performers, who put in lots of hours writing and rehearsing, to put on a show, I couldn't do that, and many people couldn't, but I and millions of people could go on the town and have a kebab.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[the_answers]

The point - that their characters are based on real people.
Real people have sex too.
Why isn't that shown on TV ?

Maybe you should e-mail C5 !

[Verbal]

Calm down sweetheart

You're beyond patronising. If you are so horrified then try watching something more edifying.

[Amy Jade]

Are they competing to win a prize ?
Serious question, I don't know.
Well if I am I hope I am as victorious as Queen Charlotte Big Brother Winner :hugesmile:

[Verbal]

Real people have sex too.
Why isn't that shown on TV ?

Maybe you should e-mail C5 !

Sex is not shown on TV? Erm ok

[Marsh.]

You said people wouldn't find it funny if friends attacked each other, in Jackass they do pretty much that and it was massive and has spawned like 4 movies and made Johnny Knoxville a big star.

That's my point.

They do so with each other's permission and are aware of it beforehand.

I'm sure if you went up to your friend and jabbed her in the eye with a fork she wouldn't appreciate it, nor would anyone find it funny.

[the_answers]

Sex is not shown on TV? Erm ok
"Real" sex isn't !

[Amy Jade]

They do so with each other's permission and are aware of it beforehand.

I'm sure if you went up to your friend and jabbed her in the eye with a fork she wouldn't appreciate it, nor would anyone find it funny.
Some of it is very spontaneous, have you actually watched it?

[Alf]

You're beyond patronising. If you are so horrified then try watching something more edifying.
I'll watch what i like thank you, and i'll say what i like about it, ok buster

[Verbal]

I'll watch what i like thank you, and i'll say what i like about it, ok buster

Ok, 'buster'

Stop moaning about it then and acting like you're on a higher moral plane. Cos believe me, you are not.

[Amy Jade]

"Real" sex isn't !
Yes it is. My brother records the 10 minute previews on sky and forgets to delete them all the time.

[Seanbon]

Well if I am I hope I am as victorious as Queen Charlotte Big Brother Winner :hugesmile:

Is that official?? Is she your new Queen?? Wow!!:conf:

[Verbal]

"Real" sex isn't !

Yes. It is.

[Amy Jade]

Is that official?? Is she your new Queen?? Wow!!:conf:
She's the publics Queen, they voted for her

[Seanbon]

She's the publics Queen, they voted for her

Wow,poor Lizzy!!:devil:

[boomoo]

It's not really her I'm annoyed at, it's the "gameshow" series.

If that's gameshow entertainment then the series is going downhill bigtime.

Rik Mayall and Ade Edmonson were funny and tongue in cheek but they weren't vulgar because it wasn't portrayed as sincere.

She's trying to be funny but it's just not.

What's disappointing about Charlotte is is to hear some half hearted apology and see no lessons have really been learnt.

I agree with you. I was really interested that BB this year had none of toilet humour of previous shows and was therefore a lot more entertaining.
Charlotte did not need to demonstrate that she had something wrong with her intestines. Blasting out wind is actually not normal.

[Amy Jade]

Wow,poor Lizzy!!:devil:
Who? :hmph:

[Kizzy]

Now you're completely contradicting yourself. You're just looking for an argument.
The point - that their characters are based on real people. You've said that they are an exaggerated version of real people (hence the over the top violence etc.), as much as she would no doubt like to I don't think Charlotte would be capable of blowing a flame out of her ass as Rik has done on many occasion).

I'm not contradicting myself and this is a discussion not an argument.
I fail to see the link between charlotte.... REAL and bottom... FICTION.

[Seanbon]

Who? :hmph:

:joker::xyxwave:

[Alf]

Ok, 'buster'

Stop moaning about it then and acting like you're on a higher moral plane. Cos believe me, you are not.
I'm British and we like a good moan, and if i wanna moan about the output of modern television, then i will, i'm not taking no moral high plane, i'm giving my opinion, you don't like it, which is fine by me, but don't tell me what i should and shouldn't do.

[Lee.]

Jesus H Christ! Two of Britains most famous comedians/writers/actors/presenters being compared to some talentless bint on a completely mind numbing, pointless programme??

Really? :bored:

[Verbal]

I'm not contradicting myself and this is a discussion not an argument.
I fail to see the link between charlotte.... REAL and bottom... FICTION.

Ok read carefully...

You stated in your own words a couple of posts back their characters are based on real people, albeit exaggerated.

So, Charlotte is the kind of person they would take inspiration from.

I'm logging off before this place drives me up the wall.

[the_answers]

Yes it is. My brother records the 10 minute previews on sky and forgets to delete them all the time.
You mean the ADULT channel ?
I won't even ask how old your brother is !

[Kizzy]

Ok read carefully...

You stated in your own words a couple of posts back their characters are based on real people, albeit exaggerated.

So, Charlotte is the kind of person they would take inspiration from.

I'm logging off before this place drives me up the wall.

I said they could be.....
Would I like it if eddie or richey were real and won big brother? no.

Yes let's leave it.

[Amy Jade]

You mean the ADULT channel ?
I won't even ask how old your brother is !
Yes, obviously.

[Marsh.]

Some of it is very spontaneous, have you actually watched it?

Yes, I have watched it. Most of it's set up to look spontaneous, but it's not.

The same way TOWIE and other shows like it are set up and filmed as though real/fly on the wall documentaries but is fiction and scripted.

[Amy Jade]

Yes, I have watched it. Most of it's set up to look spontaneous, but it's not.

The same way TOWIE and other shows like it are set up and filmed as though real/fly on the wall documentaries but is fiction and scripted.
If you say so :bored:

[Lee.]

Jackass is definitely scripted!

[Seanbon]

Jackass is definitely scripted!

If not,they'd spend half the time in court being sued!!:xyxwave:

[Marsh.]

If you say so :bored:

Sorry. Did I spoil the magic? :laugh:

Avatar is CGI too. :eek:

[Jack_]

People FUMING at the sexist gender stereotypes she's smashing left, right and centre :love: :love: :love: AMEZZIN

You shag about and get battered and don't give a ****** about what anyone thinks gurl <33333

[Marsh.]

So, unless you act like Charlotte you're a stereotype?

She's not breaking any stereotypes for chavvy youngsters.

[Amy Jade]

People FUMING at the sexist gender stereotypes she's smashing left, right and centre :love: :love: :love: AMEZZIN

You shag about and get battered and don't give a ****** about what anyone thinks gurl <33333
:worship:

[Lee.]

People FUMING at the sexist gender stereotypes she's smashing left, right and centre :love: :love: :love: AMEZZIN

You shag about and get battered and don't give a ****** about what anyone thinks gurl <33333

Here's a fact for you jack.. Plenty of women enjoy a good shag and going out and getting ****faced... However most don't feel the need to shout their mouths off about it for a bit of attention.

[Alf]

People FUMING at the sexist gender stereotypes she's smashing left, right and centre :love: :love: :love: AMEZZIN

You shag about and get battered and don't give a ****** about what anyone thinks gurl <33333
Oh when the Saints, go marching in
Oh when the Saints go marching in
I wanna be in that number
Oh when the Saints go marching in

[Amy Jade]

Here's a fact for you jack.. Plenty of women enjoy a good shag and going out and getting ****faced... However most don't feel the need to shout their mouths off about it for a bit of attention.
Does she have to be just like most people? I'd rather Charlotte to people who do everything she does and then pretend they're any better, frankly.

[the_answers]

People FUMING at the sexist gender stereotypes she's smashing left, right and centre :love: :love: :love: AMEZZIN
What do you mean "sexist gender stereotypes" ?
Serious question cos I don't get it.

I'd rather Charlotte to people who do everything she does and then pretend they're any better, frankly.
Good luck in finding them !

[the_answers]

Here's a fact for you jack.. Plenty of women enjoy a good shag and going out and getting ****faced... However most don't feel the need to shout their mouths off about it for a bit of attention.
But of course they're not on TV doing it for money are they ? ;)

[Jack_]

So, unless you act like Charlotte you're a stereotype?

She's not breaking any stereotypes for chavvy youngsters.

Never said that at all, but there are stereotypes that exist where women aren't supposed to be sexually promiscuous or else they're a 'slut' (but it's perfectly acceptable for men to be and they're 'suchaladmate' if they do), even worse they get called this by women themselves, and if a woman gets trollied she's not very 'ladylike' (LOL that's a stereotype in itself). I could go on but basically the fact she destroys these stereotypes and doesn't give a ****** is good enough for me

Not all women have to act like Charlotte, it's a personal preference and it doesn't matter either way. The problem is when people are judged for acting the way Charlotte does (especially when men are celebrated for the same behaviour) and berated for doing so, when really...you know...live and let live and all that.

Also 'chav' is a (damaging and mightily overinclusive might I add) stereotype just so you know.

Here's a fact for you jack.. Plenty of women enjoy a good shag and going out and getting ****faced... However most don't feel the need to shout their mouths off about it for a bit of attention.

1) She's paid to run her mouth about it on a scripted reality TV show and play a character, she will have felt the need to live up to parts of that 'character' on this show too. It's exaggerated

2) Openness shouldn't always be confused with attention seeking, in fact it should be embraced sometimes

[Seanbon]

People FUMING at the sexist gender stereotypes she's smashing left, right and centre :love: :love: :love: AMEZZIN

You shag about and get battered and don't give a ****** about what anyone thinks gurl <33333

Unbelievable,God help you,if you find imitating stupid males as some sort of emancipation for womankind!?!?!:bawling::bawling::bawling::bawling: :bawling::bawling::bawling:

[Amy Jade]

What do you mean "sexist gender stereotypes" ?
Serious question cos I don't get it.


Good luck in finding them !
Found a few right here...:xyxwave:

[Lee.]

Never said that at all, but there are stereotypes that exist where women aren't supposed to be sexually promiscuous or else they're a 'slut' (but it's perfectly acceptable for men to be and they're 'suchaladmate' if they do), even worse they get called this by women themselves, and if a woman gets trollied she's not very 'ladylike' (LOL that's a stereotype in itself). I could go on but basically the fact she destroys these stereotypes and doesn't give a ****** is good enough for me

Not all women have to act like Charlotte, it's a personal preference and it doesn't matter either way. The problem is when people are judged for acting the way Charlotte does (especially when men are celebrated for the same behaviour) and berated for doing so, when really...you know...live and let live and all that.

Also 'chav' is a (damaging and mightily overinclusive might I add) stereotype just so you know.



1) She's paid to run her mouth about it on a scripted reality TV show and play a character, she will have felt the need to live up to parts of that 'character' on this show too. It's exaggerated

2) Openness shouldn't always be confused with attention seeking, in fact it should be embraced sometimes

1) which is one of the reasons she should not have won.. Her whole persona is just one big attention seeking ploy.

[Jack_]

Unbelievable,God help you,if you find imitating stupid males as some sort of emancipation for womankind!?!?!:bawling::bawling::bawling::bawling: :bawling::bawling::bawling:

So consenting and single males are 'stupid' if they're sexually promiscuous too? This is exactly the kind of attitude I'm on about, it's just baffling :conf: like who actually cares if someone wants to sleep around so long as no one is getting hurt in the process? Can people not just...live and let live?

And I see nothing wrong with getting trashed once in a while either so long as no violence or detrimental behaviour arises from it

[Jack_]

1) which is one of the reasons she should not have won.. Her whole persona is just one big attention seeking ploy.

Well it is a gameshow, if she used it to win (which I doubt) then that in itself makes her a worthy winner

[Seanbon]

1) which is one of the reasons she should not have won.. Her whole persona is just one big attention seeking ploy.

Agree 100%! But obviously we're out of synch with the majority who find it entertaining eg.Towie,Geordie Shore,etc.!?!:bawling:

[Jack_]

Agree 100%! But obviously we're out of synch with the majority who find it entertaining eg.Towie,Geordie Shore,etc.!?!:bawling:

Don't watch either, hate them kind of shows, didn't think Charlotte was the most entertaining housemate in there either

[Seanbon]

So consenting and single males are 'stupid' if they're sexually promiscuous too? This is exactly the kind of attitude I'm on about, it's just baffling :conf: like who actually cares if someone wants to sleep around so long as no one is getting hurt in the process? Can people not just...live and let live?

And I see nothing wrong with getting trashed once in a while either so long as no violence or detrimental behaviour arises from it

Baffling?? Sexually promiscuous males and females are stupid! Have you never heard of STD's?
And nothing wrong with getting pissed if you behave yourself,but unfortunately it often leads to violence,seen and unseen!!:nono:

[the_answers]

Never said that at all, but there are stereotypes that exist where women aren't supposed to be sexually promiscuous or else they're a 'slut' (but it's perfectly acceptable for men to be and they're 'suchaladmate' if they do), even worse they get called this by women themselves, and if a woman gets trollied she's not very 'ladylike' (LOL that's a stereotype in itself). I could go on but basically the fact she destroys these stereotypes and doesn't give a ****** is good enough for me
See your point.
But don't you find it a bit odd that BB seem to frown upon supposed "flirting" done by certain women on the show (and thanked for their bodies in a sterotypical type of way) yet Charlotte ends up the winner and a "lovely person" ?

The problem is when people are judged for acting the way Charlotte does (especially when men are celebrated for the same behaviour) and berated for doing so, when really...you know...live and let live and all that.
You mean like how Courtney gets judged for a bit of innocent finger play ?
Or Hazel's non-sexual encounter ?

Aren't you just a bit suprised BB have nothing to say about Charlottes chosen lifestyle ?

[Kizzy]

'sexist gender stereotypes' what does this mean?
It's not unseen behaviour, it's everywhere... Women of all ages behave like this all the time. Is it in my opinion to be applauded? no.

[Amy Jade]

She won, moaning about it won't change that.

[Seanbon]

Don't watch either, hate them kind of shows, didn't think Charlotte was the most entertaining housemate in there either

Was referring to her "fanbase"!!

[Lee.]

Jack, contrary to what I think you believe, I'm not an old prudish woman who sits at home muttering about the "youth of today"... I have a large circle of friends, mainly 30 something's but a few in their 20s. We certainly still know how to have a good time.. We go out, drink a LOT, dance, sing, laugh and generally make complete arses of ourselves, but we all know in which company it's acceptable to act like this.. I would never swear in front of other folks parents, I would get completely wankered at a family wedding, I don't fart in front of ANYONE, I act polite and mannerable in new strange company.... This isn't confirming to gender stereotypes, it's called having a bit of ****ing decorum!

[Jack_]

See your point.
But don't you find it a bit odd that BB seem to frown upon supposed "flirting" done by certain women on the show (and thanked for their bodies in a sterotypical type of way) yet Charlotte ends up the winner and a "lovely person" ?


You mean like how Courtney gets judged for a bit of innocent finger play ?
Or Hazel's non-sexual encounter ?

Aren't you just a bit suprised BB have nothing to say about Chalottes chosen lifestyle ?

I can't disagree with any of that, there's definitely points to be raised from what you've just said. That doesn't negate the bile spouted at Charlotte though

[Amy Jade]

Jack, contrary to what I think you believe, I'm not an old prudish woman who sits at home muttering about the "youth of today"... I have a large circle of friends, mainly 30 something's but a few in their 20s. We certainly still know how to have a good time.. We go out, drink a LOT, dance, sing, laugh and generally make complete arses of ourselves, but we all know in which company it's acceptable to act like this.. I would never swear in front of other folks parents, I would get completely wankered at a family wedding, I don't fart in front of ANYONE, I act polite and mannerable in new strange company.... This isn't confirming to gender stereotypes, it's called having a bit of ****ing decorum!

With all due respect you said you wished I would play with razor blades, that's worse than farting in my opinion.

[Kizzy]

She won, moaning about it won't change that.

Nobody is moaning stupidhoe, this is a discussion forum and that's what we're doing.

[Jack_]

Jack, contrary to what I think you believe, I'm not an old prudish woman who sits at home muttering about the "youth of today"... I have a large circle of friends, mainly 30 something's but a few in their 20s. We certainly still know how to have a good time.. We go out, drink a LOT, dance, sing, laugh and generally make complete arses of ourselves, but we all know in which company it's acceptable to act like this.. I would never swear in front of other folks parents, I would get completely wankered at a family wedding, I don't fart in front of ANYONE, I act polite and mannerable in new strange company.... This isn't confirming to gender stereotypes, it's called having a bit of ****ing decorum!

I don't know where you've seen her swearing in front of other people's parents? Bit unfair to make an assumption like that based upon an exaggerated character role she plays and is paid for in a scripted reality show

I wouldn't fart in front of anyone because it's embarrassing to me, but I certainly don't care if anyone else does...I have much bigger issues to be worrying about.

I also don't see why you don't think she's polite either? She came across as a pretty nice person to me in the house beyond all the swearing and drinking...

[Marsh.]

She won, moaning about it won't change that.

People are discussing her behaviour on a discussion forum. Nobody's moaning about her win.

[Kizzy]

I don't know where you've seen her swearing in front of other people's parents? Bit unfair to make an assumption like that based upon an exaggerated character role she plays and is paid for in a scripted reality show

I wouldn't fart in front of anyone because it's embarrassing to me, but I certainly don't care if anyone else does...I have much bigger issues to be worrying about.

I also don't see why you don't think she's polite either? She came across as a pretty nice person to me in the house beyond all the swearing and drinking...

She doesn't play a role, that is her....It's not an act.

[Marsh.]

Also 'chav' is a (damaging and mightily overinclusive might I add) stereotype just so you know.


Yes, it is a stereotype. One she hasn't proven wrong.

[Amy Jade]

People are discussing her behaviour on a discussion forum. Nobody's moaning about her win.
Are you serious haha

[Seanbon]

Nobody is moaning stupidhoe, this is a discussion forum and that's what we're doing.

Don't you know that when you're in agreement you're discussing,when you're disagreeing you're moaning!!:devil:

[Marsh.]

Bit unfair to make an assumption like that based upon an exaggerated character role she plays and is paid for in a scripted reality show

It's scripted, but it's not cast like other actual acting roles. They have to start somewhere with the basis of their antics, her own behaviour will have got her on Geordie Shore. They liked it, hired her and exploited the type of person she is.

[Marsh.]

Are you serious haha

This thread is discussing Charlotte's behaviour, stereotypes, acceptability etc. There is moaning going on in places on the forum but trying to shut a sensible discussion down in this thread with "stop moaning" is ridiculous. If you don't want to discuss then leave the thread.

[the_answers]

I can't disagree with any of that, there's definitely points to be raised from what you've just said. That doesn't negate the bile spouted at Charlotte though
Well I see your point to some extent.
If there's any blame to be had (which we're debating), I certainly think it's not all at Charlotte's door.
If the show didn't want her on she wouldn't have gone on. (and they knew what she was like)

As far as I can gather Geordie Shore didn't arise from Charlotte, she was selected to be part of it ?
So why do people who blame Charlotte not blame the TV program too ?
Cos she's an easier target...
If it wasn't her I guess it would be someone else.

Think you're wrong to make out she's a rebel or on some kind of feminist mission though - she offered a half hearted apology tonight.

[Lee.]

I don't know where you've seen her swearing in front of other people's parents? Bit unfair to make an assumption like that based upon an exaggerated character role she plays and is paid for in a scripted reality show

I wouldn't fart in front of anyone because it's embarrassing to me, but I certainly don't care if anyone else does...I have much bigger issues to be worrying about.

I also don't see why you don't think she's polite either? She came across as a pretty nice person to me in the house beyond all the swearing and drinking...

Jack, I don't think we're going to agree on this tbh :hmph:

But put it this way (and I know you will DEFINITELY get this once you have kids if your own) my daughter will never ever grow up to be like Charlotte. Ill spend every day of the rest of her childhood making sure she matures with manners, modesty and morals.

[Jack_]

She doesn't play a role, that is her....It's not an act.

omg...

Yes she does. Like, yes.

It's a scripted reality show. TOWIE, MIC and Geordie Shore are all the same (hence why I don't watch them). The people are casted and presented to the audience as 'themselves' but they are told by the directors to exaggerate certain aspects of their personality and effectively take on a persona as if it were a soap opera, so Mario is the 'nasty love rat' on TOWIE yet in the house most people seem to agree that he appears to be a pretty decent guy, no? The casts on these shows are paid and told to do certain things, so often certain arguments and relationship scenes will be set up and they'll be given directions as to how to play the scene out

The entire point of Geordie Shore is to watch them going out on the hunt for sex and to get battered, it's not a show for everyone (and not for me) but that IS the purpose of the show, so all of the cast members are given directions that that is what they want...

I'm not saying off-camera she talks like someone from Chelsea and doesn't drink but it is an exaggerated character, anyone that seriously believes she goes around in her every day life pissing on the street whilst out shopping and talking about dildoing herself with Betty on the checkout has seriously got the wrong idea

[Amy Jade]

This thread is discussing Charlotte's behaviour, stereotypes, acceptability etc. There is moaning going on in places on the forum but trying to shut a sensible discussion down with "stop moaning" is ridiculous. If you don't want to discuss then leave the thread.

Could say the same about not watching Charlotte in general, don't pay her attention it you believe she's an attention seeking chavette.

[Marsh.]

Could say the same about not watching Charlotte in general, don't pay her attention it you believe she's an attention seeking chavette.

I don't pay her attention. I watched CBB because I am a BB fan. Now I'm discussing what I've watched. I can't very well form an opinion on her without having watched first can I? :rolleyes:

But rest assured I'm not going to be watching Geordie Shore again anytime in my lifetime.

[Jack_]

Well I see your point to some extent.
If there's any blame to be had (which we're debating), I certainly think it's not all at Charlotte's door.
If the show didn't want her on she wouldn't have gone on. (and they knew what she was like)

As far as I can gather Geordie Shore didn't arise from Charlotte, she was selected to be part of it ?
So why do people who blame Charlotte not blame the TV program too ?
Cos she's an easier target...
If it wasn't her I guess it would be someone else.

Think you're wrong to make out she's a rebel or on some kind of feminist mission though - she offered a half hearted apology tonight.

Not what I was saying at all, there's no way it's a conscious cause of course not...but I do respect (whereas the majority berate) girls that refuse to adhere to these sexist stereotypes that they must not sleep around and they must not get smashed but it's perfectly alright for men to do so, I know one girl like it and she gets so much hate but God love her she does what she wants with HER life and I admire her <3

Jack, I don't think we're going to agree on this tbh :hmph:

But put it this way (and I know you will DEFINITELY get this once you have kids if your own) my daughter will never ever grow up to be like Charlotte. Ill spend every day of the rest of her childhood making sure she matures with manners, modesty and morals.

I would never want my daughter to act like that up until the age of 18, no, of course not...but as far as I'm concerned what my daughter would do with her body at that age I really would rather not know :conf: so long as she's careful, consenting and not hurting anyone then it's none of my business

[Seanbon]

omg...

Yes she does. Like, yes.

It's a scripted reality show. TOWIE, MIC and Geordie Shore are all the same (hence why I don't watch them). The people are casted and presented to the audience as 'themselves' but they are told by the directors to exaggerate certain aspects of their personality and effectively take on a persona as if it were a soap opera, so Mario is the 'nasty love rat' on TOWIE yet in the house most people seem to agree that he appears to be a pretty decent guy, no? The casts on these shows are paid and told to do certain things, so often certain arguments and relationship scenes will be set up and they'll be given directions as to how to play the scene out

The entire point of Geordie Shore is to watch them going out on the hunt for sex and to get battered, it's not a show for everyone (and not for me) but that IS the purpose of the show, so all of the cast members are given directions that that is what they want...

I'm not saying off-camera she talks like someone from Chelsea and doesn't drink but it is an exaggerated character, anyone that seriously believes she goes around in her every day life pissing on the street whilst out shopping and talking about dildoing herself with Betty on the checkout has seriously got the wrong idea

I would say there is a thin line between her character on GS,and her real life character,so her chat with Betty may actually take place!!:joker:

[Kizzy]

omg...

Yes she does. Like, yes.

It's a scripted reality show. TOWIE, MIC and Geordie Shore are all the same (hence why I don't watch them). The people are casted and presented to the audience as 'themselves' but they are told by the directors to exaggerate certain aspects of their personality and effectively take on a persona as if it were a soap opera, so Mario is the 'nasty love rat' on TOWIE yet in the house most people seem to agree that he appears to be a pretty decent guy, no? The casts on these shows are paid and told to do certain things, so often certain arguments and relationship scenes will be set up and they'll be given directions as to how to play the scene out

The entire point of Geordie Shore is to watch them going out on the hunt for sex and to get battered, it's not a show for everyone (and not for me) but that IS the purpose of the show, so all of the cast members are given directions that that is what they want...

I'm not saying off-camera she talks like someone from Chelsea and doesn't drink but it is an exaggerated character, anyone that seriously believes she goes around in her every day life pissing on the street whilst out shopping and talking about dildoing herself with Betty on the checkout has seriously got the wrong idea

What's with the omg?
She was picked for the show for being charlotte, that is her she had no scriptwriter in BB telling her to pee the bed did she?
I don't feel this complex mix of petulant child, rebellious teenager and socially retarded adult is entertaining or someone who deserved to be the winner of BB. That is my opinion.

[Seanbon]

What's with the omg?
She was picked for the show for being charlotte, that is her she had no scriptwriter in BB telling her to pee the bed did she?
I don't feel this complex mix of petulant child, rebellious teenager and socially retarded adult is entertaining or someone who deserved to be the winner of BB. That is my opinion.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[Lee.]

Not what I was saying at all, there's no way it's a conscious cause of course not...but I do respect (whereas the majority berate) girls that refuse to adhere to these sexist stereotypes that they must not sleep around and they must not get smashed but it's perfectly alright for men to do so, I know one girl like it and she gets so much hate but God love her she does what she wants with HER life and I admire her <3



I would never want my daughter to act like that up until the age of 18, no, of course not...but as far as I'm concerned what my daughter would do with her body at that age I really would rather not know :conf: so long as she's careful, consenting and not hurting anyone then it's none of my business

I'm not just talking about who she has sex with.. I agree that as long as I've done my bit and been open about contraception and disease and pregnancy, there ain't much I can do about who she chooses to sleep with.. I'm talking about her distasteful behaviour in general. Lets face it, we all know a loud mouthed, attention seeking cow... And usually they're not really that popular.. Just irritating

[Marsh.]

but as far as I'm concerned what my daughter would do with her body at that age I really would rather not know :conf: so long as she's careful, consenting and not hurting anyone then it's none of my business

That's kind of half the problem with Charlotte.

Most people do things/having things happen behind closed doors, but most people don't want to know about it especially when it comes to your personal hygiene/toilet habits.

[Lee.]

That's kind of half the problem with Charlotte.

Most people do things/having things happen behind closed doors, but most people don't want to know about it especially when it comes to your personal hygiene/toilet habits.

Exactly.. I don't know anybody who'd shout to everybody about pissing the bed! She doesn't know the meaning of the word discreet!

[Amy Jade]

I don't believe Charlotte even wet the bed, I think Lauren was a mole all along, that is why BB saved her in evictions and basically they gave her tasks like forcing poor Carol to drink until she became incapable and she quite obviously poured water into Charlottes bad while she was sleeping to try and embarrass innocent Charlotte.

[Marsh.]

:laugh: Carol needs no encouragement when it comes to booze.

[Kizzy]

As a parent she is the epitome of what we seek to avoid our children becoming, male or female.
Primary socialisation ensures children from the off leave unsavoury behaviours behind, we encourage positive behaviour that will see them function in the adult world successfully......
Something I feel went very wrong in charlottes case, at 23 she is starting to accept that I think.

[Kizzy]

I don't believe Charlotte even wet the bed, I think Lauren was a mole all along, that is why BB saved her in evictions and basically they gave her tasks like forcing poor Carol to drink until she became incapable and she quite obviously poured water into Charlottes bad while she was sleeping to try and embarrass innocent Charlotte.

Lauren did all that?.... :joker: I don't believe it, are you serious or having a joke?...

[the_answers]

I would never want my daughter to act like that up until the age of 18, no, of course not...but as far as I'm concerned what my daughter would do with her body at that age I really would rather not know :conf: so long as she's careful, consenting and not hurting anyone then it's none of my business
Glad you said that cos your friend shouldn't be hated if she is.

Thing is, how many impressionable young girls who idolize Geordie Shore might not be as careful or get pregnant ?

We can only guess, maybe no-ones affected at all.
But perhaps that's where some of the concern is coming from.

It's not a question of stopping fun for the sake of it, I'm sorry to hear about your friend if she doesn't deserve it.

But sure you appreciate no-one wants to see impressionable young girls (or even boys) lives ruined.

If people are saying it's ok for boys to be irresponsible then I'd disagree with them.

Put it this way...

If you had a daughter, she pissed the bed and said it was great would you really applaud her for breaking down "sexist gender stereotypes' ?

I know that's not your point but it's easy to give something the green light across the board when you're not affected by the possible consequences of another persons choices.