Ed Millaband attacks the Daily Mail who said his dad Hated Britain

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/30/article-2439593-1869B7C000000578-761_638x423.jpg


The Labour leader
is a fool as at one point aged 17 his dad
did hate Britain.


He is a Fool to go on Every TV News about this.


"Why my father loved Britain, by ED Miliband"

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Link for Kizzy
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/01/ed-miliband-daily-mail-lies-father



The Daily Mail stands by their Papers
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Sign Of The Times

[Shaun]

childish smear tactics from a paper that knows nothing else

[Vicky.]

A fool to defend your dead parent against a hate filled rag such as the mail running a story like this. Astounding.

[arista]

A fool to defend your dead parent against a hate filled rag such as the mail running a story like this. Astounding.



Bang On Right Vicky

[Livia]

What a good-looking family they are .............................................

[Kizzy]

Wow.... :laugh: a new low.
Pathetic!

[Jack_]

It's just disgusting, when will this foul rag cease to exist? I hope it happens one day

[arista]

It's just disgusting, when will this foul rag cease to exist? I hope it happens one day



It was Ed that brought his Dad into
his speech.


He is fair game.

No One tells Ed to Read
the weekend Daily Mail.


He is Stupid and has fallen into this trap.



And Jack this paper is Worldwide Online
and will out live us all.
Infact I can see "Daily Mail TV News station"



http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2013/oct/01/edmiliband-dailymail



Life In The City.

[King Gizzard]

More like the Daily Mail attacks Ed Miliband but go on..

[joeysteele]

Anyone saying a single negative thing as to my Dad and I would go absolutely off it with them.
What a rotten act and this paper should be shoved firmly in the gutter where it belongs.
Totally despicable of it and well done to David Cameron for jumping in and saying so too.
The sooner trash press like this and the Sun too get eventually done away with the better for all that may be in any way decent.

[MTVN]

To be fair it's not someone's private life they've intruded though, he was a really high profile Marxist academic, my main problem with the article is more that a couple of sentences from a 17 year old's diary is a flimsy basis on which to accuse him of being "the man who hated Britain"

[arista]

To be fair it's not someone's private life they've intruded though, he was a really high profile Marxist academic, my main problem with the article is more that a couple of sentences from a 17 year old's diary is a flimsy basis on which to accuse him of being "the man who hated Britain"



Bang On Right MTVN

[Scarlett.]

This is coming from the paper who supported the Nazis

http://i.imgur.com/CuAXlbv.jpg

[arista]

Loads supported the Nazi's --- At First


Even America

[user104658]

The only defence anyone has ever needed against an article in the Daily Mail is to say; "It was in the Daily Mail".

It's a gutter-press rag. You can ignore its' front page as easily as the Daily Star.

[Mystic Mock]

The Daily Mail thinks that Video Games and TV Shows are evil so there's no surprise that they would come up with something so insensitive and personal.

[Kizzy]

Did you watch the pompous stuffed shirt on newsnight?

[joeysteele]

Did you watch the pompous stuffed shirt on newsnight?

I did he was really pathetic Kizzy, I honestly cannot see any defence for this article at all, not the way it was worded and presented.

Sadly people still buy this truly rotten paper and by doing so end up allowing such garbage to be written again and again.
I am really glad I don't.

[Kizzy]

I hope this is the catalyst for changes to this 'paper'

[Kizzy]

Reading through the articles one thing is clear, Ralph Milliband was incredibly astute!
Everything he spoke of can be related directly to what is happening today and is entirely relevant to modern day issues socially and politically.

[user104658]

To be fair, what is the problem with a British politician hating Britain, anyway? Surely that's a good thing for a politician seeking to change the status quo. I don't see how anyone could possibly NOT hate modern Britain and, frankly, most of the modern world... It's an unjust, polluted cesspit of wage slavery and corporate control.

That would be a pretty good reason to enter politics with the goal of making it better?

Not for the Daily Mail though. Oh no. To be a person of worth to them, you must get a tattoo of Kate Middleton on your right (of course) arse cheek and mumble the national anthem whilst sucking on Margaret (which is the name of David Cameron's penis).

[MTVN]

^ Ralph Miliband was never a politician though

[user104658]

^ Ralph Miliband was never a politician though

Depends on if you're talking about a career politician or not.

[joeysteele]

They're on about things he said and wrote when he was 17, well after that time he fought for Britain in the Royal Navy for goodness sake.

I am now only 21 but I said a lot of things different when I was 17 just a few years ago as to what I already stand for now.

The use of the grave too online was to my mind a disgrace as to any decency whatsoever. All of it to me is completely indefensible.
I'd say that too no matter who The Daily Mail had done this with.

[Kizzy]

If that was his experience of the British as a frightened refugee it says more about us than him..
He was there and shared in the joy of the 1945 election watching as we became industrial leaders...what happened?
The conservatives happened.

[arista]

They're on about things he said and wrote when he was 17, well after that time he fought for Britain in the Royal Navy for goodness sake.

I am now only 21 but I said a lot of things different when I was 17 just a few years ago as to what I already stand for now.

The use of the grave too online was to my mind a disgrace as to any decency whatsoever. All of it to me is completely indefensible.
I'd say that too no matter who The Daily Mail had done this with.



Yes they are on about that time
But that is Their Right.


Ed used his dad in his speech


Fair Game Joey


Life In The City

[Kizzy]

That is not fair game at all, yes he said his father was an influence whos wasn't? To use that to assasinate a dead mans character is low.
All to discredit the Labour party, it is worse than spin, it is lies and defamation.
Maybe the mail is more right wing than we think?
Rather unnerving the ferocity of the attack, the mention of 'nazism' but said without the undertone the term 'socialist' had...
There is something sinister here, the son of a Jewish refugee to be PM?
Odd..very odd.

[Livia]

I wonder if this thread would read the same if a newspaper had made the same attack on Cameron's father. Probably not...

[joeysteele]

I disagree arista.
He used his Dad in his speeches to use as the example of what he has become and how his life was shaped.
It does not mean that he would follow things his Dad said when he was 17.

Fair game you say, fair game is saying something that someone you are saying it about has the chance to fight back.
There nothing fair game in doing this to a man now deceased and who cannot answer back himself.
Nothing fair in that whatsoever in any meaning of the word.

The man fled to this Country, brought up family here, served in the armed forces for Britain during the war, committed no criminal acts and now has 2 sons who achieved fairly high political office.
They are not the actions of someone who hated Britain, maybe he would have liked to have things another way as to society,that doesn't mean he hated this Nation and it is even more ridiculous to try to taint his son in any way because of that either.

My Father was until recently a strong Conservative,I was until 18 but I am not now, my shaping of how I think and feel as to life and politics too, comes from learning from my own Dad and how I was brought up but then totally making my own mind up.
Tony Blair for instance too, his Dad was a Conservative, he became Labour.

It is shocking that a paper can get away with this,to set out to discredit a dead man with the headline, 'he hated Britain', which is clearly nonsense and even likely slander too.
To then however try to discredit his Son because of that is really the lowest of the low.

Had this been David Cameron getting this from the Mail, you arista would likely be going mad about it.
I believe in fair play all the way, this though is a million miles away from fair play or even any decency.

If you arista can defend them on this one,well that is your right I guess but I for one, for sure, if I had any power, I would rid this Country of filth like this paper once and for all.
I doubt the Daily Mail has any single idea as to what fair game or play is in anything.

[joeysteele]

I wonder if this thread would read the same if a newspaper had made the same attack on Cameron's father. Probably not...

For me 100% it certainly would,no probably about it for me. I would be as strong in defending David Cameron or any public figure as to this as I am for Ed Milband.
I also dare bet had the Mail done this against David Cameron's Father,others enjoying this lack of decency and respect for a dead man from the Mail would have been up in arms as I and others are for Ed Miliband on this one.

Thankfully even David Cameron to his full credit, has said he would be doing exactly the same as Ed Miliband if anyone had said anything about his deceased Father too.
I believe anyone would and know for sure, anyone saying anything about my Dad,even when alive,I would be at them all the time.

[Kizzy]

I wonder if this thread would read the same if a newspaper had made the same attack on Cameron's father. Probably not...

Supposition.

[MTVN]

Depends on if you're talking about a career politician or not.

Well given his views it certainly wouldnt be through politics that he'd get the change he wanted

[arista]

I disagree arista.
He used his Dad in his speeches to use as the example of what he has become and how his life was shaped.
It does not mean that he would follow things his Dad said when he was 17.

Fair game you say, fair game is saying something that someone you are saying it about has the chance to fight back.
There nothing fair game in doing this to a man now deceased and who cannot answer back himself.
Nothing fair in that whatsoever in any meaning of the word.

The man fled to this Country, brought up family here, served in the armed forces for Britain during the war, committed no criminal acts and now has 2 sons who achieved fairly high political office.
They are not the actions of someone who hated Britain, maybe he would have liked to have things another way as to society,that doesn't mean he hated this Nation and it is even more ridiculous to try to taint his son in any way because of that either.

My Father was until recently a strong Conservative,I was until 18 but I am not now, my shaping of how I think and feel as to life and politics too, comes from learning from my own Dad and how I was brought up but then totally making my own mind up.
Tony Blair for instance too, his Dad was a Conservative, he became Labour.

It is shocking that a paper can get away with this,to set out to discredit a dead man with the headline, 'he hated Britain', which is clearly nonsense and even likely slander too.
To then however try to discredit his Son because of that is really the lowest of the low.

Had this been David Cameron getting this from the Mail, you arista would likely be going mad about it.
I believe in fair play all the way, this though is a million miles away from fair play or even any decency.

If you arista can defend them on this one,well that is your right I guess but I for one, for sure, if I had any power, I would rid this Country of filth like this paper once and for all.
I doubt the Daily Mail has any single idea as to what fair game or play is in anything.


Yes that is Fair.



The DM is taking a political side
I can understand this.


Just as the Daily Mirror
attacks the PM.

[joeysteele]

Yes that is Fair.



The DM is taking a political side
I can understand this.


Just as the Daily Mirror
attacks the PM.

I don't agree with the Daily Mirror anyway,in fact I hardly look it.
The only paper I really like is The Independent.

I haven't though seen this kind of disrespect for politicians deceased family members plastered all over the front pages of the Daily Mirror with the rotten headlines the Mail has as to Ed Miliband's Dad.

Taking a political side by setting out to discredit and hammer a deceased man who was never actually a UK politician anyway, well that is a political side no one in my view, should want to be on.
I certainly wouldn't be and am not.

[Vicky.]

I wonder if this thread would read the same if a newspaper had made the same attack on Cameron's father. Probably not...
I like to think most people would defend whoever was defending their dead father against a story like this tbh.

Not everything is about which political party you support(for people besides arista)

[Kizzy]

Well given his views it certainly wouldnt be through politics that he'd get the change he wanted

How would you get the changes then?
If the government can't control the utilities and their extortionate pricing policies who can?

[Kizzy]

On newsnight now, funnily the royal charter for press regulation is being finalised next week...

[arista]

Last Nights
Question time had Q.Letts from the DM
he pointed out how Ed's Marxist Dad
wrote he wanted England to loose the Falklands War.


Scum Marxist

[Kizzy]

Proof?

[joeysteele]

Last Nights
Question time had Q.Letts from the DM
he pointed out how Ed's Marxist Dad
wrote he wanted England to loose the Falklands War.


Scum Marxist

My Dad,who I was chatting too about this was a strong Conservative but he felt there shouldn't have been a war over the Falklands,he felt we should negotiate them back to Argentina.
He said he knew loads of people who felt that way at the time and since then too.
They don't in any way hate Britain though because they think that way.

[arista]

Proof?


Its in his (Ed's dads) book.
Fact

[Kizzy]

Depends on your perception, personally I think thatcher taking us to war on principle was wrong.
She is a war criminal in the eyes of many, that does not make them scum...

[arista]

Depends on your perception, personally I think thatcher taking us to war on principle was wrong.
She is a war criminal in the eyes of many, that does not make them scum...


The Falklands is British
everyone backed the war
after the Punk Argies invaded

[user104658]

everyone backed the war


I'm becoming more and more convinced that you're some sort of troll, Arista... :suspect:

[Kizzy]

The Falklands is British
everyone backed the war
after the Punk Argies invaded

Some were influenced by the right wing rags, as they are today. And some people think for themselves.

[arista]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/10/3/1380835859706/Steve-Bell-04.10.2013-002.jpg


another work of art by Steve Bell


for kizzy

[MTVN]

Gove is right

[arista]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Columnist/Columnists/2013/10/5/1380964639111/david-simonds-06102013-011.jpg

Another great work of art this one by David Simonds

But Take Note Kizzy and Vicky
Labour will have the Exact Same Policy

[Verbal]

Protest going on today outside of the Daily Mail offices. Live streaming of the event:

http://bambuser.com/v/3987846

[MTVN]

Oh dear, nothing better to do on your Sunday chaps

[arista]

Protest going on today outside of the Daily Mail offices. Live streaming of the event:

http://bambuser.com/v/3987846


It will Not Change a Thing.

[Verbal]

It will Not Change a Thing.

Yea they should all just stay at home and keep their mouths shut huh Tory boy.

[arista]

Yea they should all just stay at home and keep their mouths shut huh Tory boy.



No they can go online.



They do not get on the news




wasted efforts

[Verbal]

No they can go online.



They do not get on the news




wasted efforts

They are online, hence the link. They wont get on the news because the BBC or Sky News will never in a million years cover this.

[arista]

They are online, hence the link. They wont get on the news because the BBC or Sky News will never in a million years cover this.



Yes the Bloated BBC
wasting out tax money

[MTVN]

The BBC and the Daily Mail hate each other, if the protest was worth covering they would

[arista]

The BBC and the Daily Mail hate each other, if the protest was worth covering they would



Bang On Right

[Verbal]

The BBC and the Daily Mail hate each other, if the protest was worth covering they would

Their hatred for 'the left' outweighs any animosity between them by a country mile

[MTVN]

The BBC hate the left? They're normally accused of the opposite

[Verbal]

The BBC hate the left? They're normally accused of the opposite

Really ? Who is Chairman of the BBC Trust? Oh yes a Tory peer

Where were they today?

Where were they last week when 50,000 people marched against the NHS cuts in Manchester?

He wouldn't have a vested interest in the privatisation of the NHS would he?

[arista]

SkyNewsHD has it on Now


Well done SkyNewsHD

[arista]

"Who is Chairman of the BBC Trust? Oh yes a Tory peer"

"Former."

But yes he is that one.

[Kizzy]

Swept under the carpet... It's newsworthy is it not this story?
more than the lies printed by the mail, and it seems I'm not the only one to suggest they are sympathetic to certain regimes.
The evidence is stacking up.