Sinead O' Connor's open letter to Miley Cyrus

[Mrluvaluva]

OPEN LETTER TO MILEY CYRUS

Dear Miley,

I wasn’t going to write this letter, but today i’ve been dodging phone calls from various newspapers who wished me to remark upon your having said in Rolling Stone your Wrecking Ball video was designed to be similar to the one for Nothing Compares… So this is what I need to say… And it is said in the spirit of motherliness and with love.

-YICuUtkjlg
Directors cut of Wrecking Ball


I am extremely concerned for you that those around you have led you to believe, or encouraged you in your own belief, that it is in any way ‘cool’ to be naked and licking sledgehammers in your videos. It is in fact the case that you will obscure your talent by allowing yourself to be pimped, whether its the music business or yourself doing the pimping.

Nothing but harm will come in the long run, from allowing yourself to be exploited, and it is absolutely NOT in ANY way an empowerment of yourself or any other young women, for you to send across the message that you are to be valued (even by you) more for your sexual appeal than your obvious talent.

I am happy to hear I am somewhat of a role model for you and I hope that because of that you will pay close attention to what I am telling you.
The music business doesn’t give a **** about you, or any of us. They will prostitute you for all you are worth, and cleverly make you think its what YOU wanted.. and when you end up in rehab as a result of being prostituted, ‘they’ will be sunning themselves on their yachts in Antigua, which they bought by selling your body and you will find yourself very alone.

None of the men oggling you give a **** about you either, do not be fooled. Many’s the woman mistook lust for love. If they want you sexually that doesn’t mean they give a **** about you. All the more true when you unwittingly give the impression you don’t give much of a **** about yourself.
And when you employ people who give the impression they don’t give much of a **** about you either. No one who cares about you could support your being pimped.. and that includes you yourself.

Yes, I’m suggesting you don’t care for yourself. That has to change. You ought be protected as a precious young lady by anyone in your employ and anyone around you, including you. This is a dangerous world. We don’t encourage our daughters to walk around naked in it because it makes them prey for animals and less than animals, a distressing majority of whom work in the music industry and it’s associated media.

You are worth more than your body or your sexual appeal. The world of showbiz doesn’t see things that way, they like things to be seen the other way, whether they are magazines who want you on their cover, or whatever.. Don’t be under any illusions.. ALL of them want you because they’re making money off your youth and your beauty.. which they could not do except for the fact your youth makes you blind to the evils of show business. If you have an innocent heart you can’t recognise those who do not.

I repeat, you have enough talent that you don’t need to let the music business make a prostitute of you. You shouldn’t let them make a fool of you either. Don’t think for a moment that any of them give a flying **** about you. They’re there for the money.. we’re there for the music. It has always been that way and it will always be that way. The sooner a young lady gets to know that, the sooner she can be REALLY in control.

You also said in Rolling Stone that your look is based on mine. The look I chose, I chose on purpose at a time when my record company were encouraging me to do what you have done. I felt I would rather be judged on my talent and not my looks. I am happy that I made that choice, not least because I do not find myself on the proverbial rag heap now that I am almost 47 yrs of age.. which unfortunately many female artists who have based their image around their sexuality, end up on when they reach middle age.

Real empowerment of yourself as a woman would be to in future refuse to exploit your body or your sexuality in order for men to make money from you. I needn’t even ask the question.. I’ve been in the business long enough to know that men are making more money than you are from you getting naked. Its really not at all cool. And its sending dangerous signals to other young women. Please in future say no when you are asked to prostitute yourself. Your body is for you and your boyfriend. It isn’t for every spunk-spewing dirtbag on the net, or every greedy record company executive to buy his mistresses diamonds with.

As for the shedding of the Hannah Montana image.. whoever is telling you getting naked is the way to do that does absolutely NOT respect your talent, or you as a young lady. Your records are good enough for you not to need any shedding of Hannah Montana. She’s waaaaaaay gone by now.. Not because you got naked but because you make great records.

Whether we like it or not, us females in the industry are role models and as such we have to be extremely careful what messages we send to other women. The message you keep sending is that its somehow cool to be prostituted.. its so not cool Miley.. its dangerous. Women are to be valued for so much more than their sexuality. we aren’t merely objects of desire. I would be encouraging you to send healthier messages to your peers.. that they and you are worth more than what is currently going on in your career. Kindly fire any mother****er who hasn’t expressed alarm, because they don’t care about you.


Sinead O Connor's official website (http://www.sineadoconnor.com/2013/10/open-letter-to-miley-cyrus/)

[Shaun]

the woman who ripped up a photo of the Pope on live TV (SNL?) preaching about the wrong way to go about things? Hmm. :laugh:

[King Gizzard]

yes not sure she should be the one giving out some sort of moral lesson here

[Lee.]

Good on her

[GypsyGoth]

Sinead makes some good points.

[Mrluvaluva]

But ripping up that photo of the pope was in an effort to try and highlight the fact that child abuse existed within the Roman Catholic church?

[Benjamin]

yes not sure she should be the one giving out some sort of moral lesson here

She's warning her of things she has probably go through or seen others go through.

[King Gizzard]

I dunno...I kinda think Miley is just having a fun time :shrug:

[jackc1806]

Hilarious people can't see that this whole image of her is coming out while she's releasing new material... It's not at all a cleverly crafted move by a whole team of publicists and marketers to get free publicity

[King Gizzard]

and in a way isn't this just adding to the Miley Cyrus publicity

I prefer this Miley anyway

[Brother Leon]

Open Letter back to Sinead.

No one is reading your ****, never mind Miley. Let her do what she wants. She's making better music at least.

[Mrluvaluva]

I suppose as Miley is citing Sinead as a possible role model, then Sinead is acting in that capacity and offering her advice. It's up to Miley what she does with that advice. She's not just slagging her off.

[King Gizzard]

She probably thought Sinead would never respond to it/even know who she is and said it on whim Lol

[MTVN]

Bit ott

[Novo]

well said Sinead, time to bring back the 7 Things and Party in the USA miley. at least she had a style which suited those type of songs now it's just all gone horribly wrong for her

[Vicky.]

and in a way isn't this just adding to the Miley Cyrus publicity

I prefer this Miley anyway

I wonder why :idc:

Anyway, some good advice in there. I had to laugh at something I read the other day with Miley trying to make out her video was all about the pain of break ups and such and all sybolism..rather than just admit she was naked and writhing on a giant ball just to sell more and get attention :D

[Kizzy]

Sinead :worship:

[iRyan]

She makes some potentially convincing points yet at the same time comes across as both prudish and extremely bitter. Maybe Miley is being 'prostituted', but did you ever think maybe she isn't? That perhaps she, *gasp*, CHOOSES to portray herself this way? And in that case - let Miley be her. Her life is her journey. We discover ourselves through the choices we make. Miley is at a stage in her life where she is trying to discover who she is and she should be free to express herself while doing so. It's normal.

I find it hypocritical of Sinead to frame the music industry as misogynistic (though I don't totally disagree) yet her entire letter is basically slut-shaming. I literally rolled my eyes at the comment 'your body is for you and your boyfriend'. What a silly thing to say. Who is this woman to tell another woman what to use her body for? A woman has the right to represent herself however she pleases, and if Miley wishes to represent herself like that, then that's alright. She's just doing her.

I know Sinead is of good intentions, but the way in which she went about giving advice was not appropriate in my opinion. She's shaming her, not encouraging her.

[Kizzy]

She hasn't got a boyfriend anymore... Thats the whole point of the vid to portray her 'anguish' isn't it?
:laugh2:

[Cherie]

Sinead makes some great points. Miley has gone OTT in trying to ditch her Disney Princess image and ended up a bit of a laughing stock in the process.

[Vanessa]

I don't like Miley Cirus. She tries too hard to be controversial. :suspect:

[Cherie]

I don't like Miley Cirus. She tries too hard to be controversial. :suspect:



Perfectly put.

[Kizzy]

She'll be saying P diddy's her friend next :idc:

[Niamh.]

She's spot on, Miley has just become ridiculous

[Ammi]

..maybe Sinead did mean it as ‘advise’ in a constructive way but it is only her opinion based on her own experiences and that doesn’t mean Miley shouldn’t do what she feels is right and for her career because no two situations are the same..it’s not really anything new for artists male and female in live performances and vids etc to give a visual performance of general sexiness as well..I remember when Kylie was considered ‘the girl next door’, an image she also successfully changed and she’s had a very long career and is still a great and sexy performer....so yeah, Sinead might be more than happy with her own choices and to let her ‘talent shine through’ but Miley isn’t her ...she obviously wants to shake off being ‘Billy’s daughter’/Hannah Montana etc and she’s doing that by ‘reinventing’ herself which is something that’s worked extremely well for people like Madonna and her 'controversy' hasn't done her any harm..who is to say she’s gone too far...Miley looks great/has talent and hopefully is enjoying herself...and she’s still showcasing her music very well...as Sinead said herself, Miley’s music talents aren’t detracted from because she still sees them...you know maybe Miley will end up in rehab/having problems with exhaustion or whatever but I doubt it’ll all be because of ‘exploitation’ but also having to read the constant criticisms of her looks/style/and everything she does so closely scrutinised and at such a young age..and for me that’s the first thing Sinead should have had empathy with as an ‘older and wiser’, rather than being concerned about her for getting naked in a music vid....as an apparent role model, she could have given her some much better ‘self-protection/preservation’ imo...Miley could have a music careee for a few short years or decades, who knows but for now she’s holding her own in a very competitive world....

[Kizzy]

She has been very public about how painful and raw her break up was and she is vulnerable, a music video was not the right outlet for that .
Other artistes have gone down the raunchy road but they were older
, and it was not due to any emotional trauma.
Sineads comments are honest and come from a good place, personally I feel it's lovely that she cared enough to reply.

[swinearefine]

Why can't she be sexual and talented? Not that she's talented, so honestly it's in her best interest to push the sexuality.

[Marsh.]

the woman who ripped up a photo of the Pope on live TV (SNL?) preaching about the wrong way to go about things? Hmm. :laugh:

Which surely means she knows what she's talking about when it comes to being desperate for controversy?

Sinead's more qualified to offer advise on how the industry and PR works than a lot of other people who are sure Miley chooses to do all of this of her own accord. IMO, she seems too desperate to be seen as a grown up that she comes across naive and incredibly childish. She certainly has an immature vision of what a grown up is.

I would not be at all surprised if it's exactly as O'Connor's said, and Miley's being mollycoddled into believing she's choosing it herself and she's not. She's being persuaded that ditching the Disney image means doing what she's doing.

[Tom4784]

She's not doing anything that other female stars haven't already done in some form or another, I doubt anyone would bat an eyelid if it was Rihanna who performed like that at the VMAs or released that video.

[Niamh.]

She's not doing anything that other female stars haven't already done in some form or another, I doubt anyone would bat an eyelid if it was Rihanna who performed like that at the VMAs or released that video.

She just looks more ridiculous than any other female star ever did though, she fails miserably at looking seductive/sexy :laugh:

[Benjamin]

She comes across as a cheap, skanky mess that you would find in a nightclub every Saturday night trying to bang any man she could.

[Niamh.]

She comes across as a cheap, skanky mess that you would find in a nightclub every Saturday night trying to bang any man she could.

Yeah, she looks like someone who's really drunk and thinks they look really sexy but everyone else is looking at them thinking wtf are you doing?, you're going to regret that in the morning :laugh:

[Mrluvaluva]

If there's one popstar that literally no-one has managed to escape over the summer, it's Miley Cyrus.

It's been two years since her record Can't Be Tamed (as good as it is) was considered a misfire in her mission to shed Hannah Montana's wig-swapping shadow. However, in hindsight the album inspired the former Disney star to push even further away from her tween-friendly beginnings to really make a statement on her position as a young adult.

"It's not a transition," Miley explains in her MTV documentary The Movement, which aired in the US last night (October 2). "People always like to call it a transition. I'm the same human - I have the same heart that I had five years ago. Everything about me is the same. Same skin, same human."

Pop music could quite possibly be one of the hardest environments in entertainment to grow up in. As well as pleasing record execs and radio bosses, teen stars are trying to forge their own adult identity under the watchful eye of the world's press, opinionated music fans and those dreaded parenting groups.

It's fair to say Miley really went for it for her own 'evolution'. If grinding Robin Thicke at the MTV VMAs while using a foam finger suggestively wasn't enough, riding a wrecking ball while naked in a music video certainly topped it off.

"I'm not one to please anybody," Cyrus notes in the documentary, "but with this record there's a lot of pressure, because I haven't had one out in two years". It's fascinating that someone can be so savvy, ambitious and fearless at the age of 20 the way Miley Cyrus is. It's this confidence, self-assured demeanor and headstrong attitude that makes her a viable role model.

The Nashville-born starlet is acutely aware of where she wants her career to head, but isn't ignorant of her tween beginnings. "I was a lot of people's first album," she says. "I was a lot of people's first idol." Cyrus worked hard to be that particular child-friendly role model. "For five years of my life I learned I had to be focussed," she says in The Movement, revealing that she would do 4 hours' worth of homework before she'd go and film Hannah Montana for eight hours.

Her mother and manager Tish Cyrus reflects further on her daughter missing out on her teen years, but says that her father Billy Ray Cyrus's fame put her in good stead for it. "It makes her understand what's real," Tish notes. "What's show and what's real life."

This feels wholly apparent throughout The Movement. Miley is often excitable, clear-minded and ambitious about her stage shows and image, but after moving to a small apartment in Philly to write songs for her new album Bangerz, she relishes being able to go to the park and "pick up dog poop" like a normal person.

What's more, it's refreshing to see a young woman in pop so in control of her career in an industry dominated by powerful men and 'business first' attitudes. While rehearsing for Jimmy Kimmel and Good Morning America she challenges the musical director over a "weird" sounding note during 'We Can't Stop'. She's forceful and passionate about it being perfect, but never comes across as a bratty diva.

"I am a control freak," she says with a glint of steely determination in her eyes. Miley is fully aware of the impact her shows will have and nothing is left to chance. As she describes her now infamous VMAs outing: "It's a strategic hot mess."

What's the drive behind this eagerness to shock and entertain? Miley's own pop idols Britney Spears and Madonna. During a conversation in the studio with Spears, Cyrus notes that she wants to make pop exciting. "I want to give people that again. Music videos that are out of control." Beneath the twerking, side-tongue and skimpy outfits is a pop fan aspiring to become the type of idol who excited her younger self 10 years ago.

But with extravagant and suggestive performances comes the criticism - much of what we've seen following the VMAs and 'Wrecking Ball' video. Parents who are used to their children watching Miley Stewart on the Disney Channel turning into a pop princess after school were not happy.

"How many times have we seen this play out in pop music?" asks Miley. "You're always going to make people talk. You might as well make them talk for two weeks, rather than two seconds." Even at a young age, Miley seems defiant against her detractors and can whip the over-sensationalism into perspective, noting: "If I really wanted to come out and do a raunchy sex show, I wouldn't have come out as a damn bear!"

What The Movement shows is that Miley Cyrus is a determined young woman who has a clear vision of her career ahead. Her mind is focussed, her critics don't bother her and she's willing to work hard to become the very best. It's these qualities that make the woman behind the popstar a serious role model for today's youth.

"The world thinks they know this girl," Pharrell Williams notes. "My thing to you is, don't be fooled!"

Miley Cyrus's The Movement will air in the UK on MTV tonight (October 3) at 8pm.


Digital Spy (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/thesound/a520642/miley-cyrus-documentary-why-her-ambition-makes-her-a-good-role-model.html)

[Ryan57]

Very good letter. Unfortunately, this is what happens in the music industry nowadays. A constant slutty persona.

[Ammi]

If there's one popstar that literally no-one has managed to escape over the summer, it's Miley Cyrus.

It's been two years since her record Can't Be Tamed (as good as it is) was considered a misfire in her mission to shed Hannah Montana's wig-swapping shadow. However, in hindsight the album inspired the former Disney star to push even further away from her tween-friendly beginnings to really make a statement on her position as a young adult.

"It's not a transition," Miley explains in her MTV documentary The Movement, which aired in the US last night (October 2). "People always like to call it a transition. I'm the same human - I have the same heart that I had five years ago. Everything about me is the same. Same skin, same human."

Pop music could quite possibly be one of the hardest environments in entertainment to grow up in. As well as pleasing record execs and radio bosses, teen stars are trying to forge their own adult identity under the watchful eye of the world's press, opinionated music fans and those dreaded parenting groups.It's fair to say Miley really went for it for her own 'evolution'. If grinding Robin Thicke at the MTV VMAs while using a foam finger suggestively wasn't enough, riding a wrecking ball while naked in a music video certainly topped it off.

"I'm not one to please anybody," Cyrus notes in the documentary, "but with this record there's a lot of pressure, because I haven't had one out in two years". It's fascinating that someone can be so savvy, ambitious and fearless at the age of 20 the way Miley Cyrus is. It's this confidence, self-assured demeanor and headstrong attitude that makes her a viable role model.

The Nashville-born starlet is acutely aware of where she wants her career to head, but isn't ignorant of her tween beginnings. "I was a lot of people's first album," she says. "I was a lot of people's first idol." Cyrus worked hard to be that particular child-friendly role model. "For five years of my life I learned I had to be focussed," she says in The Movement, revealing that she would do 4 hours' worth of homework before she'd go and film Hannah Montana for eight hours.

Her mother and manager Tish Cyrus reflects further on her daughter missing out on her teen years, but says that her father Billy Ray Cyrus's fame put her in good stead for it. "It makes her understand what's real," Tish notes. "What's show and what's real life."

This feels wholly apparent throughout The Movement. Miley is often excitable, clear-minded and ambitious about her stage shows and image, but after moving to a small apartment in Philly to write songs for her new album Bangerz, she relishes being able to go to the park and "pick up dog poop" like a normal person.

What's more, it's refreshing to see a young woman in pop so in control of her career in an industry dominated by powerful men and 'business first' attitudes. While rehearsing for Jimmy Kimmel and Good Morning America she challenges the musical director over a "weird" sounding note during 'We Can't Stop'. She's forceful and passionate about it being perfect, but never comes across as a bratty diva.

"I am a control freak," she says with a glint of steely determination in her eyes. Miley is fully aware of the impact her shows will have and nothing is left to chance. As she describes her now infamous VMAs outing: "It's a strategic hot mess."

What's the drive behind this eagerness to shock and entertain? Miley's own pop idols Britney Spears and Madonna. During a conversation in the studio with Spears, Cyrus notes that she wants to make pop exciting. "I want to give people that again. Music videos that are out of control." Beneath the twerking, side-tongue and skimpy outfits is a pop fan aspiring to become the type of idol who excited her younger self 10 years ago.

But with extravagant and suggestive performances comes the criticism - much of what we've seen following the VMAs and 'Wrecking Ball' video. Parents who are used to their children watching Miley Stewart on the Disney Channel turning into a pop princess after school were not happy.

"How many times have we seen this play out in pop music?" asks Miley. "You're always going to make people talk. You might as well make them talk for two weeks, rather than two seconds." Even at a young age, Miley seems defiant against her detractors and can whip the over-sensationalism into perspective, noting: "If I really wanted to come out and do a raunchy sex show, I wouldn't have come out as a damn bear!"

What The Movement shows is that Miley Cyrus is a determined young woman who has a clear vision of her career ahead. Her mind is focussed, her critics don't bother her and she's willing to work hard to become the very best. It's these qualities that make the woman behind the popstar a serious role model for today's youth.

"The world thinks they know this girl," Pharrell Williams notes. "My thing to you is, don't be fooled!"

Miley Cyrus's The Movement will air in the UK on MTV tonight (October 3) at 8pm.


Digital Spy (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/thesound/a520642/miley-cyrus-documentary-why-her-ambition-makes-her-a-good-role-model.html)

..I'll try to watch that tonight...the bolded bit made me smile because I can remember my dad saying..'is that a boy or a girl, you just can't tell these days..'...LOL....

[King Gizzard]

Miley will continue to be ridiculous and this way as long as it gets her publicity (which looks like it's happening) so I don't think she really cares..

[Mrluvaluva]

..I'll try to watch that tonight...the bolded bit made me smile because I can remember my dad saying..'is that a boy or a girl, you just can't tell these days..'...LOL....

Ha. It should be interesting to see things from another perspective. I shall be making a note to watch too.

[Ryan57]

..I'll try to watch that tonight...the bolded bit made me smile because I can remember my dad saying..'is that a boy or a girl, you just can't tell these days..'...LOL....

No surprise. She has the voice of a man to boot.

[Ammi]

Ha. It should be interesting to see things from another perspective. I shall be making a note to watch too.

..yeah, it will be interesting, I do think she's got a good family support unit as well and is probably very 'savvy' to the whole industry...'rock n roll' was always controversial but I guess in the 'old days' there wasn't the media/internet attention in the same way so the pressure was much less for young artists from that point of view...

[Mrluvaluva]

Miley has posted on Twitter:

Before Amanda Bynes.... There was....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVqeKkhIAAAlVwQ.jpg


Nice...

[Brother Leon]

Miley with the ether :worship:

[Mrluvaluva]

It's uncalled for and vindictive. Sinead did not slag her off in any way, shape or form, and bringing her personal issues into it, in my view, is a cheap and nasty shot.

[Me. I Am Salman]

stupid jealous lesbian

[Mrluvaluva]

That's it! Sinead is jealous of her. It's amazing how someone can trash somebody they "admire" in an instant. :rolleyes:

[Jordan.]

Why even waste time trying to help her, let her carry on acting like a slag and bragging about what drugs she takes. She'll be the one embarrassed in a few years time when no cares anymore.

[Ryan57]

What a stupid bitch. Somebody tweeted to Miley 'Queen'... what a twat. Queen of what also? :joker:

[Ammi]

It's uncalled for and vindictive. Sinead did not slag her off in any way, shape or form, and bringing her personal issues into it, in my view, is a cheap and nasty shot.

..I would agree..tacky...but she's very young, whereas Sinead put herself forward as someone 'older and wiser', she's certainly more of an age of Miley's mum and to me the 'advice' she gave wasn't very constructive at all and was said in a way that it doesn't surprise me that it's provoked a 'Twitter reaction'..which I don't agree with how Miley's done it..but well, as I say she is young and that was probably an instinct reaction..or maybe encouraged by friends...who knows but I wouldn't judge her for it....

[Z]

Sinead O'Connor's always had good intentions and has always gone about them in the worst possible way. Miley Cyrus is an emotionally immature 20 year old woman who has dumbed herself down to the lowest common denominator so that she can be successful. I'm not surprised that Sinead tried to pass off a high and mighty lecture as advice, and I'm not surprised Miley's thrown it back in her face. I think Sinead has some very good points, particularly about people prostituting Miley for their own gain and I don't think Miley herself will see it until she's much older and she's become weary of fame... I think she has now reached a new height of notoriety - Britney Spears levels of people not leaving her alone, and I don't think Sinead is wrong in saying that Miley will end up in rehab one day for some addiction problem...

[Ramsay]

lol wot? isthat even sinead's twitter?
https://twitter.com/vampyahslayah

[Ammi]

..I can't see it on MTV..?...

[Mrluvaluva]

lol wot? isthat even sinead's twitter?
https://twitter.com/vampyahslayah

Apparently it's one she's used in the past.

[Mrluvaluva]

..I can't see it on MTV..?...

It's on now, and on +1 at 9.

[Amy Jade]

I had to google Sinade O'Connah and shes just a one hit wonder using Miley speaking about her once to get attention because she's no longer relevant.

[Ramsay]

TKeJifOXAnA

:worship:

this > twerking

[Ryan57]

I had to google Sinade O'Connah and shes just a one hit wonder using Miley speaking about her once to get attention because she's no longer relevant.

A fantastic one hit wonder it was as well.

[Ammi]

It's on now, and on +1 at 9.

..it's not on my MTV lol...

[MTVN]

Sure you're not on MTV Dance or something :suspect:

[Mrluvaluva]

..it's not on my MTV lol...

You must have a different MTV to everybody else. :laugh:

Sky 126. Not sure about Virgin etc.

[Ammi]

Sure you're not on MTV Dance or something :suspect:

You must have a different MTV to everybody else. :laugh:

Sky 126. Not sure about Virgin etc.

..hmm, it's not on any of them Matt, maybe I don't have that channel or as Baz says, I just have to be different..no worries I'll try to see if I can watch online somewhere....

[Marsh.]

http://cdn01.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/03/miley-cyrus-terry-richardson-lead-100313-400x300.jpg

Urgh, she's got her non existent arse out now as well.

If you're going to flaunt your body, make sure you have something to flaunt.

A bony pelvis with no flesh is not sexy.

[Mrluvaluva]

And Sinead replies.....

http://m.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a520925/sinead-oconnor-writes-miley-cyrus-new-letter-dont-mock-mental-health.htmlnd Sinead replies.....

[Mrluvaluva]

"You could really do with educating yourself, that is if you're not too busy getting your tits out to read."

*awaits response from Miley*

I can see this going back and forth for a while and getting quite messy.

[Kizzy]

Aw, sinead... Leave her to it. Ignorant child.

[Marsh.]

Cyrus has already responded on twitter. She hasn't got the brains (or the power over her team) to put together a response so opted for the "I'm ignoring you" route.

[Ammi]

..I did get to watch this and found it very interesting...she seems like a young lady who is very much in control of what she wants and supported with that by her family/friends...she’s someone who is very fortunate in life and has the opportunity..(and talent..) to be able to aspire to her own idols like Madonna/Britney and is right that there has always been controversy in music, she wants her ‘statement’ to be strong..I guess it’s only different because of the power of media/internet and the power of words...and wow, how we all use those words...sign of the times as they say...I do like Sinead and I always have but I do think her letter was very badly constructed and has been a huge contributory in sparking those words...but I guess whether people think Miley’s right or not/going OTT or not, like One Direction/Justin Bieber etc, I just don’t get such ‘hatred/harsh criticism’ for a young lady who is doing it her way...and really there is no such thing as slag/slutty terms etc in the music/pop industry when artists are showcasing their music, there’s just people with different styles....

[thesheriff443]

sinead supported the ira, so that says it all!

[Cherie]

..I did get to watch this and found it very interesting...she seems like a young lady who is very much in control of what she wants and supported with that by her family/friends...she’s someone who is very fortunate in life and has the opportunity..(and talent..) to be able to aspire to her own idols like Madonna/Britney and is right that there has always been controversy in music, she wants her ‘statement’ to be strong..I guess it’s only different because of the power of media/internet and the power of words...and wow, how we all use those words...sign of the times as they say...I do like Sinead and I always have but I do think her letter was very badly constructed and has been a huge contributory in sparking those words...but I guess whether people think Miley’s right or not/going OTT or not, like One Direction/Justin Bieber etc, I just don’t get such ‘hatred/harsh criticism’ for a young lady who is doing it her way...and really there is no such thing as slag/slutty terms etc in the music/pop industry when artists are showcasing their music, there’s just people with different styles....

I beg to differ her performance with Robin Thicke was nothing to do with music. I don't know why so many women in the music industry now feel that their voice and and talent aren't enough, they have to strip down to their miniscule underwear and shove their privates in our faces all in the name of putting on a show.

[thesheriff443]

I beg to differ her performance with Robin Thicke was nothing to do with music. I don't know why so many women in the music industry now feel that their voice and and talent aren't enough, they have to strip down to their miniscule underwear and shove their privates in our faces all in the name of putting on a show.

I hate it when women shove there privates in my face:shocked::joker:

[Cherie]

I hate it when women shove there privates in my face:shocked::joker:

Ha!

[Mrluvaluva]

sinead supported the ira, so that says it all!

...and then admitted herself that she was talking bollocks later on in life.

[Niamh.]

I beg to differ her performance with Robin Thicke was nothing to do with music. I don't know why so many women in the music industry now feel that their voice and and talent aren't enough, they have to strip down to their miniscule underwear and shove their privates in our faces all in the name of putting on a show.

Yeah, I have to agree with that. It isn't a good thing for young girls to look up to these women and see them as role models

[Ryan57]

Sinead should just leave her to it. Clearly Miley is too dumb to realise what she's doing.

[Ammi]

I beg to differ her performance with Robin Thicke was nothing to do with music. I don't know why so many women in the music industry now feel that their voice and and talent aren't enough, they have to strip down to their miniscule underwear and shove their privates in our faces all in the name of putting on a show.

..I remember when my room was covered in David Bowie posters and my dad wasn't very impressed at all...there was the whole 'bisexual' thing going..how risqué....anyway I never wanted to live my life like Bowie in anyway or thought of him as a 'role model' as such but there was a lot of things about him that I admired apart from his music and the 'show' which were his complete stage performances...Madonna has always been controversial in many ways, from even her name to how she dresses/acts etc and especially in her live performances..but I haven't in my experience seen any of that 'controversy' or in disrespect in any way from her fans...I just don't personally think that fans take a literal or active meaning from everything their 'idols' do or wear but just take elements of inspiration from their music and them as people...anyway, that's just my opinion and her parents/family/friends seem very supportive of the direction of her career so I'm not really going to judge any differently..if it all turns out to be the wrong decisions for her then they will all have to deal with that....

[Black Dagger]

Miley's response just made her look like a massive ***********, the sooner she bores off the better.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Miley is gross, Sineas shouldn't even have bothered getting involved. Miley is a classic girl of spoilt child getting everything she wants. Her mum is her manager, "always by her side through every decision" and her dad kisses her ass and defends her publicly. She's gross. Her voice is irritating. She will fall badly. Sinead is right, she's only getting attention because her antics, not because her music is out of this world.



Now that Selena gomez I like. So mature, level headed, what a girl like her was doing with justin bieber i'll never know.:shocked: Hopefully Selena can have a stable, credibly career long term i'd rather her than any of the other disney princesses. Oh Hilary duff too.

[Stu]

..I remember when my room was covered in David Bowie posters and my dad wasn't very impressed at all...there was the whole 'bisexual' thing going..how risqué....anyway I never wanted to live my life like Bowie in anyway or thought of him as a 'role model' as such but there was a lot of things about him that I admired apart from his music and the 'show' which were his complete stage performances...Madonna has always been controversial in many ways, from even her name to how she dresses/acts etc and especially in her live performances..but I haven't in my experience seen any of that 'controversy' or in disrespect in any way from her fans...I just don't personally think that fans take a literal or active meaning from everything their 'idols' do or wear but just take elements of inspiration from their music and them as people...anyway, that's just my opinion and her parents/family/friends seem very supportive of the direction of her career so I'm not really going to judge any differently..if it all turns out to be the wrong decisions for her then they will all have to deal with that....
David Bowie and to a much lesser extent Madonna had substance behind their style though. RCA's record deal with Miley will have you know that she is a recording artist but really she records little and creates less. She's an artist in similar vein to how the budgie runs the mine. That's the most hilarious thing about all of this. When you summarise everything that is going on around Miley Cyrus in 2013 the last thing anything seems to want to talk about is her music. It's an afterthought. I know that's staggeringly obvious even perhaps to many of her own fans but I'm going to play arch cynic as usual here and point out the sheer hilarity of it.

Her music is just background hum to this awfully substance devoid, kitch campaign to get her total lack of a personality over. Regardless of how much she enjoys what she is doing she's ultimately the end product of a much larger arm that is here to sell sex and fragrances to people who often stay isolated and insecure in their bedrooms because they wish they were more brave and audacious like Miley.

If you're grown up, tuned in and like the mindless escapism of it all then indulge but rest assured there is nothing positive here for anybody's children. I applaud Sinead's letter. It's a total stab of fresh air that has managed to pierce the curtain and that should be heralded as a very, very good thing by all but the dullest of fools who will somehow once again ignore substance and chalk it up to Sinead wanting to be relevant or some other such dog eared excuse to lambast it.

Sinead's a total berry, obviously, but nobody can deny her status as an artist and I've always thought that she has a fundamentally good soul.

So yeah, good thing. Now get out of it when you can.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Cyrus has already responded on twitter. She hasn't got the brains (or the power over her team) to put together a response so opted for the "I'm ignoring you" route.

Her response wasn't so much "I am ignoring you" it was more-i'm important, have a job and i'm too relevant to make time for you and Sinead is rising to the bait. You're just giving her more publicity Sinead. But Sinead threatened to sue her, go for it sinead get that spoiled little brat. :D Can't wait to hear Billy Ray's opinion on all this " well gat damn a grown woman picking on a young girl still trying to find herself,well i'll be!"

[Ammi]

David Bowie and to a much lesser extent Madonna had substance behind their style though. RCA's record deal with Miley will have you know that she is a recording artist but really she records little and creates less. She's an artist in similar vein to how the budgie runs the mine. That's the most hilarious thing about all of this. When you summarise everything that is going on around Miley Cyrus in 2013 the last thing anything seems to want to talk about is her music. It's an afterthought. I know that's staggeringly obvious even perhaps to many of her own fans but I'm going to play arch cynic as usual here and point out the sheer hilarity of it.

Her music is just background hum to this awfully substance devoid, kitch campaign to get her total lack of a personality over. Regardless of how much she enjoys what she is doing she's ultimately the end product of a much larger arm that is here to sell sex and fragrances to people who often stay isolated and insecure in their bedrooms because they wish they were more brave and audacious like Miley.

If you're grown up, tuned in and like the mindless escapism of it all then indulge but rest assured there is nothing positive here for anybody's children. I applaud Sinead's letter. It's a total stab of fresh air that has managed to pierce the curtain and that should be heralded as a very, very good thing by all but the dullest of fools who will somehow once again ignore substance and chalk it up to Sinead wanting to be relevant or some other such dog eared excuse to lambast it.

Sinead's a total berry, obviously, but nobody can deny her status as an artist and I've always thought that she has a fundamentally good soul.

So yeah, good thing. Now get out of it when you can.



..and nice to see you around again as always, Stu...

[Niamh.]

David Bowie and to a much lesser extent Madonna had substance behind their style though. RCA's record deal with Miley will have you know that she is a recording artist but really she records little and creates less. She's an artist in similar vein to how the budgie runs the mine. That's the most hilarious thing about all of this. When you summarise everything that is going on around Miley Cyrus in 2013 the last thing anything seems to want to talk about is her music. It's an afterthought. I know that's staggeringly obvious even perhaps to many of her own fans but I'm going to play arch cynic as usual here and point out the sheer hilarity of it.

Her music is just background hum to this awfully substance devoid, kitch campaign to get her total lack of a personality over. Regardless of how much she enjoys what she is doing she's ultimately the end product of a much larger arm that is here to sell sex and fragrances to people who often stay isolated and insecure in their bedrooms because they wish they were more brave and audacious like Miley.

If you're grown up, tuned in and like the mindless escapism of it all then indulge but rest assured there is nothing positive here for anybody's children. I applaud Sinead's letter. It's a total stab of fresh air that has managed to pierce the curtain and that should be heralded as a very, very good thing by all but the dullest of fools who will somehow once again ignore substance and chalk it up to Sinead wanting to be relevant or some other such dog eared excuse to lambast it.

Sinead's a total berry, obviously, but nobody can deny her status as an artist and I've always thought that she has a fundamentally good soul.

So yeah, good thing. Now get out of it when you can.

Exactly.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Is Miley adopted? Because her parent's accents are super southern while Miley sounds like a New york male.

[Verbal]

It seems she has taken Sinead's advice to heart http://www.buzzfeed.com/emilyhennen/miley-cyrus-shocks-us-once-again?bffb

[Niamh.]

Classy bird ^

[Jack_]

them pics though

If only Rihanna would have some like that taken...

LOL @ the dirty old man taking the picture in one of the ones with a mirror behind her, how creepy

[Verbal]

them pics though

If only Rihanna would have some like that taken...

LOL @ the dirty old man taking the picture in one of the ones with a mirror behind her, how creepy

Thats what I thought, thats really bad. Sinead is right they are exploiting her for her sexuality so that middle aged pervs can oggle her. Doing things like that photoshoot, which isnt even a proper shoot just a bloke in a flat with a bloody camera phone is nothing to do with music. I bet Billy is not happy.

[Ryan57]

It seems she has taken Sinead's advice to heart http://www.buzzfeed.com/emilyhennen/miley-cyrus-shocks-us-once-again?bffb

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-10/enhanced/webdr01/3/14/enhanced-buzz-31191-1380826101-21.jpg

Honestly looks like a 12 year old boy in this shot.

[Verbal]

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-10/enhanced/webdr01/3/14/enhanced-buzz-31191-1380826101-21.jpg

Honestly looks like a 12 year old boy in this shot.

I disagree

[Cherie]

Well at least we know that she keeps herself tidy. :joker:

[Saph]

shes really starting to annoy now.. the whole 'ratchet' thing was cute, if thats the right word, when she started, but now its gone past that and shes making a fool of herself :/ more people are laughing at her than with her

[Verbal]

SI4L4N7VuJI

[GypsyGoth]

Amanda Palmer :lovedup:

[Mrluvaluva]

In response from Sinead...

"I have no interest whatsoever in meeting you. You had plenty of time yesterday to abuse Amanda Bynes .. an entirely innocent party.. and myself.. who also did nothing to deserve your abuse.. along with every other sufferer of mental health problems and every person who suffered abuse at the hands of priests.

You can take five minutes today between g- string *****in’ changes to publicly apologise and remove your abusive tweets. If you do not then you don’t give a **** who you mock and what damage you do by being so ignorant.

When you publicly apologise to Amanda and myself and all mental health sufferers as well as all who were abused by priests that will end the matter as far as I am concerned.

What you did yesterday was designed to damage me and my career and has caused me enormous distress and harassment and has potential to damage my career, since you deliberately gave the impression those tweets of mine were not two years old but reflect my current condition. If you cannot apologize I will have no choice but to bring legal proceedings against you since it is extremely hard to be given work when people think one is suffering from mental illness.

I have no interest in or desire to cause you trouble but if you do not apologise for having deliberately tried to cause me hurt and trouble personally and professionally I will have to bring pressure upon you.

When you end up in the psych ward or rehab I’ll be happy to visit you.. and would not lower myself to mock you.

Be a proper woman and make the public apologies I have listed above. Your hosting SNL is a bull**** reason for not taking five minutes to do the right thing and your behaviour yesterday will rebound upon you very badly.

You have no business abusing Amanda Bynes or anyone else. How do you think you made her feel yesterday? How do you feel when your friend Britney Spears is mocked and humiliated for having had mental health problems? I know I personally want to bash those who treat her that way. If she is your friend and more importantly if you are a true friend to her.. you ought apologise for joining those who mock and humiliate women who have been too nice frankly, to manage the music business without sensibly losing their minds.

Cease behaving in an anti-female capacity. You will become the victim of it shortly. Soon it will be you the media ‘crazy’ .. and you will not enjoy it.. and you will appreciate people (like myself) standing up for you. Which I will be happy to do.. if you earn my respect today by apologising publicly."

Curb your rancid tongue Miley....

http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/miley-cyrus-oconnor.jpg

[BBfanUSA]

I think Miley is doing this because she's hosting Saturday Night Live and I think she may make a reference to something Sinead did on the show once that got Sinead banned for life. (During a musical performance, Sinead ripped a picture of Pope John Paul in half with no hinting to the production crew.)

[Joelle.]

Yes so Sinead is a bit of a fruit loop, but she seems to genuinely care. For Miley to mock her like that makes her look like even more of twat than she already does.

I would let her get on with it Sinead.

[Kizzy]

Exactly.

[Mrluvaluva]

Annie Lennox chips in:

"I have to say that I'm disturbed and dismayed by the recent spate of overtly sexualised performances and videos. You know the ones I'm talking about. It seems obvious that certain record companies are peddling highly styled pornography with musical accompaniment. As if the tidal wave of sexualised imagery wasn't already bombarding impressionable young girls enough..I believe in freedom of speech and expression, but the market forces don't give a toss about the notion of boundaries. As long as there's booty to make money out of, it will be bought and sold. It's depressing to see how these performers are so eager to push this new level of low.Their assumption seems to be that misogyny- utilised and displayed through oneself is totally fine, as long as you are the one creating it. As if it's all justified by how many millions of dollars and U tube hits you get from behaving like pimp and prostitute at the same time. It's a glorified and monetized form of self harm."

[lostalex]

It's really annoying how these suppossed feminist icons paint these new girls like miley, katey perry, rihanna, as VICTIMS. they are in charge of their image.
It's really pathetic these old women thinking the world is still like the 70's.

Sinead and Annie need to **** and stop using young girls to get their names back in the press.

They are the ones coming across as media *****s, not Miley.

Whatever meds Sinead is on, they arn't strong enuf.

[Verbal]

It's really annoying how these suppossed feminist icons paint these new girls like miley, katey perry, rihanna, as VICTIMS. they are in charge of their image.
It's really pathetic these old women thinking the world is still like the 70's.

Sinead and Annie need to **** and stop using young girls to get their names back in the press.

They are the ones coming across as media *****s, not Miley.

Whatever meds Sinead is on, they arn't strong enuf.

You really think they're in charge of their image? They arent. They are supposed to be musicians, what is musical about the stuff Miley has done recently (photography wise)? If you think it is anything other than pandering to the base interests of men, you're very naive. If Miley Cyrus released a single with a video of her singing in a long flowing dress I and probably millions of men would not have looked at the video. Get her bits out and shes worldwide news. If she and the others were all about the music they would have no need to do this.

[Verbal]

In short, sex sells

[lostalex]

You really think they're in charge of their image? They arent. They are supposed to be musicians, what is musical about the stuff Miley has done recently (photography wise)? If you think it is anything other than pandering to the base interests of men, you're very naive. If Miley Cyrus released a single with a video of her singing in a long flowing dress I and probably millions of men would not have looked at the video. Get her bits out and shes worldwide news. If she and the others were all about the music they would have no need to do this.

oh please, she's been walking around in the same stupid spandex for a year before this new album. It's the media fetish for child stars that makes it controversial. Sinead should be harassing the press and journalists, not harassing Miley.

Miley can do her thing, and as far as i can tell she's having a good time at it.

Sinead hasn't been interesting for a long ****ing time, and this whole "mentor" role is so self-righteous and obnoxious, **** off Sinead, go form a book club with that short haired irish bitch from the Cranberries.

[Mrluvaluva]

Sinead and Annie need to **** and stop using young girls to get their names back in the press.

They are the ones coming across as media *****s, not Miley.



Anybody who ever has a view on a subject like this is always going to come under accusations like this. Could it not just be possible that they feel strongly about such matters and actually care? I am sure they have seen a lot of this throughout their years. It's a notoriously tough industry for most and a lot of artists are pressured to conform to what is expected from them.

[Verbal]

oh please, she'd been walking around in the same stupid spandex for a year before this new album. It's the media fetish for child stars that makes it controversial. Sinead should be harassing the press and journalists, not harassing Miley.

Miley can do her thing, and as far as i can tell she's having a good time at it.

You're contradicting yourself. One minute you say she is in charge of her image the next you say she is playing up to a 'media fetish'.

She is pandering to what the media want. Doing what it takes to get her mug on front pages. It will make her and her representatives millions. What Sinead has said is dead on right. She is being chewed up by the media machine, and whether it is in 2, 5 or 10 years she will be spat out and sent to the nearest rehab centre to make way for the next.

[Z]

It's really annoying how these suppossed feminist icons paint these new girls like miley, katey perry, rihanna, as VICTIMS. they are in charge of their image.
It's really pathetic these old women thinking the world is still like the 70's.

Sinead and Annie need to **** and stop using young girls to get their names back in the press.

They are the ones coming across as media *****s, not Miley.

Whatever meds Sinead is on, they arn't strong enuf.

I could understand people saying Sinead O'Connor just wants attention because she was always one for pulling stunts when she was at the height of her fame; but Annie Lennox is a highly successful artist whose music is still in rotation today and she has absolutely no need to "get back in the news" other than because she means what she says. Miley Cyrus et al are willing victims of an aggressive PR machine that sets out to shock people in new ways, or recycle old ways to shock people, because that's how you get attention. There is no value or merit placed in the actual music, it's almost an afterthought. I don't even believe this is what Miley Cyrus really wants for her career; she's using this as a stepping stone - be controversial now and be an artist later on. She's a willing victim, she's exploiting herself so she can be popular and famous. They might be in charge of their image but they're definitely not in charge of their own minds - I don't think Miley Cyrus really wants people to think of her as a laughing stock; she wants people to know her name so she's achieving it in the most degrading, controversial way she can...

Sinead O'Connor's points are spot on about people who build their careers on their image and then don't know what to do with themselves when their looks fade. Look at how much Christina Aguilera has floundered since she piled on a heap of weight. Look at the laughing stock Madonna has turned herself into ever since that infamous pink leotard. Looks fade, but that addiction to attention doesn't, and that's what will happen to Miley Cyrus if she continues to be a shock jock. Look at Britney Spears, look at Lindsay Lohan, look at Amanda Bynes, look at all these other child stars who haven't been able to handle the real world once it's gone to their heads and they can't handle the crash back down to earth when they're no longer a hot commodity... we've seen it countless times since Hollywood came into existence and we'll see it countless more times in the future... Miley Cyrus would be wise to not respond to these open letters or to respond to them privately or publicly in a mature manner... because being rude about people who have nothing but genuine concern for you is really bratty and shows that Miley isn't a mature woman in control of her actions, but still a girl who isn't in control of her emotions and has no real awareness or understanding of what she's really doing to herself in the long run.

[Verbal]

Madam is hosting SNL tonight. Its been pushed back and starts in ten minutes I believe. It is going to get messy. Streams available through your local pirates.

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=Zee;6412732]I could understand people saying Sinead O'Connor just wants attention because she was always one for pulling stunts when she was at the height of her fame; but Annie Lennox is a highly successful artist whose music is still in rotation today and she has absolutely no need to "get back in the news" other than because she means what she says. Miley Cyrus et al are willing victims of an aggressive PR machine that sets out to shock people in new ways, or recycle old ways to shock people, because that's how you get attention. There is no value or merit placed in the actual music, it's almost an afterthought. I don't even believe this is what Miley Cyrus really wants for her career; she's using this as a stepping stone - be controversial now and be an artist later on. She's a willing victim, she's exploiting herself so she can be popular and famous. They might be in charge of their image but they're definitely not in charge of their own minds - I don't think Miley Cyrus really wants people to think of her as a laughing stock; she wants people to know her name so she's achieving it in the most degrading, controversial way she can...

Sinead O'Connor's points are spot on about people who build their careers on their image and then don't know what to do with themselves when their looks fade. Look at how much Christina Aguilera has floundered since she piled on a heap of weight. Look at the laughing stock Madonna has turned herself into ever since that infamous pink leotard. Looks fade, but that addiction to attention doesn't, and that's what will happen to Miley Cyrus if she continues to be a shock jock. Look at Britney Spears, look at Lindsay Lohan, look at Amanda Bynes, look at all these other child stars who haven't been able to handle the real world once it's gone to their heads and they can't handle the crash back down to earth when they're no longer a hot commodity... we've seen it countless times since Hollywood came into existence and we'll see it countless more times in the future... Miley Cyrus would be wise to not respond to these open letters or to respond to them privately or publicly in a mature manner... because being rude about people who have nothing but genuine concern for you is really bratty and shows that Miley isn't a mature woman in control of her actions, but still a girl who isn't in control of her emotions and has no real awareness or understanding of what she's really doing to herself in the long run.[/QUOT

Very well put Zee.

[Niamh.]

Looks like Jason Manford is getting in on the action as well :laugh:

AN OPEN LETTER TO MILEY CYRUS

Dear Miley, you don't know me but if you wanna dance all slutty like, just do it. But don't be nasty to people like Sinead O'Connor, she was only trying to help. Also how's your dad? Hope he's alright. Anyway, I'm rambling, but if you're ever in the UK come see me on tour (dates are here http://www.jasonmanford.com/tour2013/).

All the best,

Jason

P.S I don't know who does your clothes, but there's an up an coming indie fashion label over here called George, I can hook you up.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jason-Manford/9212109351?hc_location=stream

[Mrluvaluva]

Sinead O'Connor may have written more letters to Miley Cyrus than we have in years but she isn't stopping at three.

The 46-year-old Nothing Compares 2 U singer has penned a fourth letter to Miley Cyrus after the star appeared on Matt Lauer and called Sinead "crazy" again.

Now, unless Miley likes receiving long winded letters from Sinead we are guessing she may be spinning this out a bit for some attention.

When asked about Sinead, Miley said on air: "I think she's an incredible artist. I don't know how anyone can start a fight with someone who's like, 'hey, I really respect you and I really like you - you know what, you suck!' That was kinda crazy!

"But you can write as many open letters as you want, it's nothing new for me."

Well, we all know that Sinead needs no encouragement.

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article2340703.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Sinead-OConnor-attends-the-Late-Late-show-at-RTE-Studios-2340703.jpg

For her latest offering Sinead again asks for an apology from Miley to herself, Amanda and all those suffering from mental health issues.

Mum Sinead writes: "I hope that clarifies the confusion you expressed on Matt’s show, where you conveniently forgot how it got from someone sending you what was intended as a caring message to that same someone being extremely upset with you.. And then went on to repeat the very action which caused that upset."

On Friday Sinead told host Ryan Tubridy: "I don’t pitch myself as a role model. I was upset on behalf of Amanda Bynes. I thought it was a nasty thing to do to Amanda Bynes because she had nothing to do with the conversation.

"And also the poor girl is in hospital at the moment receiving treatment."

Although 3am have been told by a very reliable source Sinead wasn't too sure who Amanda was when she saw Miley's venomous tweet and had to Google her.

Later on in the conversation Sinead added Miley didn't mean to insult Amanda, who is under psychiatric hold after she setting fire to a driveway in Thousand Oaks, California in July and dousing her dog with petrol.

But although everyone was listening to what Sinead was saying, we couldn't help but look at her new B and Q (not like the shop where your dad buys nails) cheek tattoos.

They are believed to be a painful nod to Brendan Quinlan, a man she alludes to on her website

Sinead went on: "It’s about music being murdered, it’s not actually about Miley.

"As far as I’m concerned it’s over, it’s not something I really want to talk about."


Mirror Mirror Mon Amour (http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/sinead-oconnor-says-miley-cyrus-2353538)

[Ramsay]

oh goddd, just drop it sinead

[lostalex]

it would have been hilarious if Miley had ripped up a picture of Sinead on her SNL appearance last weekend (as a nod to Sinead ripping up a picture of the pope on SNL 30 years ago). but Miley is more mature than Sinead obviously. she doesn't need to resort to such childish stunts.

Actually Miley's SNL performance was beautiful.

JICTCOSsL7Q

[Kizzy]

Miley should just change her name to cupid stunt for me, she's lurching from one bad decision to another shedding respect and credibility as she goes.

[lostalex]

Miley should just change her name to cupid stunt for me, she's lurching from one bad decision to another shedding respect and credibility as she goes.

yea, bad decisions, that's why she's on SNL and the top of the charts, and Sinead is a lonely old bag who's in and out of the nut house. Sinead is the LAST person who should be lecturing anyone on how to be healthy in show business, because she's obviously made a mess of her own career, who the hell is she to tell anyone about how to be sucessful or happy?. She was a one hit wonder.

Everything since "nothing compares 2 u" (which was a Prince cover i might add, she didn't even write it) she's only kept her name in the press in the tabloids, not from her music. Miley Cyrus has had more hits in the last 10 years at the age of 20 than Sinead O'conner has in her whole lifetime.

[Kizzy]

Whatever your opinion of Sinead is that's not the issue.
There was no need for the initial response from Miley, it was childish and rude.
I woul personally never ill will anyone, but you know whut? I can see it coming....