Tamera Foster shoplifted from Boots a month after her audition

[Me. I Am Salman]

X FACTOR favourite Tamera Foster has issued a grovelling apology after it emerged she was caught shoplifting.

The 16-year-old singer was held by security guards for stealing make-up from a branch of Boots a month after her first audition.

An insider confirmed Tamera told producers: “I am so, so sorry.”

The source added: “She is really remorseful for what she has done and has said sorry to everyone on the show for letting them down. She is distraught.”

Tamera was caught thieving along with two other girls at the store in Gravesend, Kent, on July 24.

Kent Police said Boots decided to deal with Tamera through “restorative justice”.

It means a manager would have been given a chance to ask why the theft had occurred, call for an apology and seek amends rather than press charges.

Sources confirmed Tamera had agreed to pay the cost of the goods stolen.

It comes as an unfortunately-timed video tutorial of how show artists do Tamara’s make-up was released online.

The teenager is 9-4 to win and blew the judges away with a rendition of Chaka Khan’s Ain’t Nobody last week.

Sharon Osbourne said: “You are very exotic, your name is exotic and you sing pretty good too.”

Tamera was also exposed for tweeting about smoking marijuana laced with class-A drug PCP.

She said last month: “I’m upset and ashamed. I never meant to encourage or endorse the use of drugs. It’s no excuse, but this was months ago.”

Tamera also accepted a police caution for attacking 15-year-old Holly Wilks after smoking marijuana on Boxing Day.

She recently insisted she has changed her ways.

She said: “I’ve done a lot of growing up and I still have time to grow. I don’t want to be judged on my past – it’s what I’m doing now that really matters.”

An X Factor source said: “She has really improved since she has been in the
X Factor house.

“She is a really pleasant young lady. We believe she’s turned over a new leaf.”

A Kent Police spokesman confirmed officers attended the theft, adding: “The store dealt with the offences through restorative justice.”

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/tv-radio/x-factors-tamera-fosters-shoplifting-2468385

omg queen

[reece(:]

Only queen Tamera http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z448/reeecerawwr/c3ed7b23.gif

[MTVN]

Kick her out

[Black Dagger]

Off with her head!!

[Ninastar]

Off with her head!!

dance dance dance till she's dead

[Saph]

why does everyone steal from Boots :laugh2: http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z448/reeecerawwr/c3ed7b23.gif

[Black Dagger]

dance dance dance till she's dead

:lovedup:

auzfTPp4moA

[Verbal]

Kick the chavy scum out. What kind of example is this to children? If she hadnt have got through she would still be doing it.

[Gstar]

This just makes me like her even more

[Glenn.]

Queen Tamera just doing what she wants :worship:

[Samm]

Kick the chavy scum out. What kind of example is this to children? If she hadnt have got through she would still be doing it.

Tamara does not look anything like a chav what are you talking about.

[Verbal]

Tamara does not look anything like a chav what are you talking about.

Petty thief = chav scum

[Glenn.]

Obviously verbal doesn't like Tamera :joker:

[Jordan.]

She had to make herself look good for judges houses it's understandable

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/58982177/Ciara++Gif.gif

[Black Dagger]

She had to make herself look good for judges houses it's understandable

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/58982177/Ciara++Gif.gif

:joker:

[Josy]

Oh yeah she's amazing because shoplifting is so cool eh.

[smudgie]

Oh yeah she's amazing because shoplifting is so cool eh.

Yeah, is this the same girl that assaulted someone or do I have it totally wrong?

[Verbal]

why does everyone steal from Boots :laugh2: http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z448/reeecerawwr/c3ed7b23.gif

They do?

Do you have something you want to share with the group?

[Verbal]

She had to make herself look good for judges houses it's understandable

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/58982177/Ciara++Gif.gif

By stealing **** from Boots :laugh2:

[Glenn.]

I'd hardly call the girl scum for stealing a bit of makeup. It's a bit extreme.

[Kizzy]

X factor could change her, it may give her better choices to make.
She is still a child with a gift, so I hope she can do it.

[Verbal]

I'd hardly call the girl scum for stealing a bit of makeup. It's a bit extreme.

Yea you're right. Its only upstanding members of society that indulge in robbing.

[Cherie]

MMM, I could cut her come slack if she did it before but to do it after being chosen for Boot Camp shows she is a bit of a dimwit.

[Glenn.]

Yea you're right. Its only upstanding members of society that indulge in robbing.

Sure. It's rapists and kiddie fiddlers I tar with the word scum. We obviously have very different views.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Verbal do you like anything

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

cheryl cole would have loved her, then she would have taken her black boyfriend. :D

But meh what do you expect, that's today's culture. Kids think that they can do whatever they like and the world still owes them with quick successes or whatever :bawling:

[Shaun]

MMM, I could cut her come slack if she did it before but to do it after being chosen for Boot Camp shows she is a bit of a dimwit.

so it's ok to do it more than once but not once

well done cherie you've broken all realms of logic

[Kizzy]

I get what she means, when she knows that there was a bigger risk involved.
They were hardly going to let her appear at bootcamp covered in collection 2000 anyway :idc:

[Marc]

By stealing **** from Boots :laugh2:

:joker:

Stealing from Boots is the ultimate crime

[Braden]

This is ridiculous...girls who don't fit the 'indie' or 'Adele' stereotype are torn to pieces by the press and made out to be complete monsters.

It's horrible.

[arista]

'I'm so so sorry': X Factor hopeful Tamera Foster's
grovelling apology to producers after 'she's caught
shoplifting make-up

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2466756/X-Factor-contestant-Tamera-Foster-grovels-bosses-shes-caught-shoplifting-make-up.html#ixzz2iBHLZaUG

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/19/article-0-18CB4A6A00000578-296_634x798.jpg
The GREEDY bitch

[arista]

I get what she means, when she knows that there was a bigger risk involved.
They were hardly going to let her appear at bootcamp covered in collection 2000 anyway :idc:


She has said how very sorry she is

She did the nicking in july


But the Daily Mirror
has exploded it.

[Marc]

At least we know she won't win.

[Kizzy]

Well let's hope that as a recording artist she knows she won't be able to have a piss without the press know about it... Let alone tweet about drug use, steal and assault your peers.

[Jack_]

Kick the chavy scum out. What kind of example is this to children? If she hadnt have got through she would still be doing it.

yeah sure let's label her and hold a couple of incidents she's had in her teenage life against her forever, hell why don't we stone the bitch to death, after all she's just 'chavy scum' :rolleyes:

She isn't the only person to have ever shoplifted and she won't be the last either, it's not something that should be held against your name forever because if anything that just leads to more detrimental consequences. She hardly robbed a bank or killed a child, she's apologised, so now let's have some perspective...

[Marc]

OKAY JACK FINE! I stole some penny sweets from Woolworths when I was a kid.

THERE! ARE YOU HAPPY NOW

[Cherie]

so it's ok to do it more than once but not once

well done cherie you've broken all realms of logic

You have completely misunderstood my logic, I could maybe understand her doing it if she was a bored kid with nothing to look forward to, doing it for kicks, but she had just been chosen to go to Boot Camp it must have entered her head that it might hinder her progress on the show if she was caught, so on that basis she is a total dimwit to even consider it never mind do it.

[Samm]

Petty thief = chav scum

Chav:
http://www.oldskoolanthemz.com/forum/attachments/chillout-room/17502d1140820856-definition-chav-chav.jpg

Tamera:
http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article2467800.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Tamera-Foster-2467800.jpg

They don't look a like do they

Tamera is a Queen anyway

[Marc]

Queen of what

[Josy]

Queen Sticky Fingers

[Samm]

Queen of what

Queen of the X factor (Hannah to)

[Kizzy]

Queen Sticky Fingers

:joker: :joker: :joker:

[Marcus.]

why on earth do that

[Verbal]

Chav:
http://www.oldskoolanthemz.com/forum/attachments/chillout-room/17502d1140820856-definition-chav-chav.jpg

Tamera:
http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article2467800.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Tamera-Foster-2467800.jpg

They don't look a like do they

Tamera is a Queen anyway

You can polish a turd, but its still a turd

[Drew.]

You can polish a turd, but its still a turd

i like Tamera but :joker:

[Samm]

You can polish a turd, but its still a turd

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meiz18Ds6d1rtr7ly.gif

[Verbal]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meiz18Ds6d1rtr7ly.gif

Hey, you support a thief, thats cool. Just don't try making out its ok because its not.

[Cherie]

why on earth do that

Marcus!

[Marc]

You can polish a turd, but its still a turd

:laugh:

[Samm]

Hey, you support a thief, thats cool. Just don't try making out its ok because its not.

everyone does something bad in there Life she not like a master Thief Criminal

[Marcus.]

Marcus!

hiya cherie

[Vanessa]

Oh no! This could lose her some votes ! :shocked:

[Verbal]

And Salman, please stop sending me intimidating messages. Thanks.

[Cherie]

hiya cherie

You got yourself a new PC or are you still sharing, you are missed.

[Verbal]

everyone does something bad in there Life she not like a master Thief Criminal

No they don't. I haven't.

[Samm]

No they don't. I haven't.

Nobody can Be good all there life even someone like Gandhi has probably done something bad

[Cherie]

everyone does something bad in there Life she not like a master Thief Criminal

that is not the point though, if you had just got through an interview for a dream job and were accepted into the next round of interviewing, would you go out and shoplift? considering that that 15.00 mascara might cost you thousands in earnings, it's just plain stupid!

[Verbal]

Nobody can Be good all there life even someone like Gandhi has probably done something bad

What a ridiculous statement. 'Doing something bad' in the context of this thread would be breaking the law. Glorifying drugs and god knows what else. I have certainly never broken the law, i'm in no way comparable to Gandhi.

[Vanessa]

She made a mistake. As long as she doesn't do it again then i'm fine wit it.

[Samm]

What a ridiculous statement. 'Doing something bad' in the context of this thread would be breaking the law. Glorifying drugs and god knows what else. I have certainly never broken the law, i'm in no way comparable to Gandhi.

I am not saying you are Gandhi why would I say that. I agree with Ness she made a mistake your making out that she did something relay Bad.

[Verbal]

I am not saying you are Gandhi why would I say that. I agree with Ness she made a mistake your making out that she did something relay Bad.

SHE DID!

People's jobs are at stake when a thief gets out of a shop. Innocent, hardworking people who have to take wage cuts because scrotes like this want to make their lips look nice.

[Samm]

SHE DID!

People's jobs are at stake when a thief gets out of a shop. Innocent, hardworking people who have to take wage cuts because scrotes like this want to make their lips look nice.

She should of not done it BUT If she was not on the x factor no one would care

[Marcus.]

You got yourself a new PC or are you still sharing, you are missed.

share but i can not forget passward save on the computer

[Verbal]

She should of not done it BUT If she was not on the x factor no one would care

If she wasnt on the xfactor she would still be bloody doing it. The only reason she has 'apologised' is because she wants to stay on the xfactor gravy train.

[Samm]

If she wasnt on the xfactor she would still be bloody doing it. The only reason she has 'apologised' is because she wants to stay on the xfactor gravy train.

No because she only done it one time she is not a master criminal

[Verbal]

No because she only done it one time she is not a master criminal

So because shes not a 'master criminal' its ok? Odd logic

[reece(:]

Some desperate jabs are being made at queen Tamera so other's faves stay longer in the competition, ain't gonna work
http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z448/reeecerawwr/everything/tumblr_ltuev8LE3l1qdz1avo4_250.gif

[Benjamin]

Yea you're right. Its only upstanding members of society that indulge in robbing.

You'd be surprised how many crimes are committed by 'upstanding members of society'. ;)

[Jack_]

You'd be surprised how many crimes are committed by 'upstanding members of society'. ;)

Indeed, we just don't really hear about them and they're supposedly not threatening crimes ;) I mean no 'upstanding members of society' commit robbery do they...tax evasion doesn't happen does it? MP's expenses? Oh and we all know it's just the 'chavvy' kids on the streets that are involved in drug related crimes too, millionaire business tycoons aren't snorting coke in their tax havens no definitely not

[Me. I Am Salman]

;)

[Verbal]

Indeed, we just don't really hear about them and they're supposedly not threatening crimes ;) I mean no 'upstanding members of society' commit robbery do they...tax evasion doesn't happen does it? MP's expenses? Oh and we all know it's just the 'chavvy' kids on the streets that are involved in drug related crimes too, millionaire business tycoons aren't snorting coke in their tax havens no definitely not

Are you really comparing a chavy teenager stealing lipstick from a chemist to MPs, tax evasion and drug dealers? And you tell me to get some perspective? Wow

[Samm]

So because shes not a 'master criminal' its ok? Odd logic

:rolleyes:

[Jack_]

Are you really comparing a chavy teenager stealing lipstick from a chemist to MPs, tax evasion and drug dealers? And you tell me to get some perspective? Wow

Have you totally missed the point of my post or? What I'm saying is that you insinuated that no 'upstanding members' of society commit robbery...well...tax evasion is robbery is it not? As is MP's fiddling their expenses? And you made a point earlier in the thread about young 'chavs' indulging in drug use, well I'm afraid it's not just these 'chav scum' as you call them that do so, people in suits that own yachts do as well...

Ben made a point to you that actually some of the people you called 'upstanding members' of society do commit crime, and I elaborated on that

[Verbal]

Have you totally missed the point of my post or? What I'm saying is that you insinuated that no 'upstanding members' of society commit robbery...well...tax evasion is robbery is it not? As is MP's fiddling their expenses? And you made a point earlier in the thread about young 'chavs' indulging in drug use, well I'm afraid it's not just these 'chav scum' as you call them that do so, people in suits that own yachts do as well...

Ben made a point to you that actually some of the people you called 'upstanding members' of society do commit crime, and I elaborated on that

It seems that you misunderstand me. I'm not sure what it is I posted that made you think that I consider MPs to be upstanding members of society. They are the absolute scum of the earth.

[Jemal]

We've all done bad things in our life..

[AnnieK]

everyone does something bad in there Life she not like a master Thief Criminal

But so far she's admitted assault, drugs and now shoplifting....it's not brilliant

[Verbal]

We've all done bad things in our life..
No we havent. I honestly havent. Ever.

[Joelle.]

The only thing that would have made this better is if she'd stolen from Primark.

She seems like a bit of a arsehole though...

[Kizzy]

Should have gone to top shop and lifted herself a better outfit...jus sayin...

[Verbal]

I guess crime does pay. Go out shoplifting kids, you will be on national TV every week!

[GypsyGoth]

I think she has enough talent to change her life for the better.

[Samm]

I guess crime does pay. Go out shoplifting kids, you will be on national TV every week!

She was on X factor before she shoplift get it right

[Verbal]

She was on X factor before she shoplift get it right

https://lh6.ggpht.com/fxItA5hV2uIDr3HqkvpHYtUMx7Opb3BKa8VJID9R6vZu5Itb7X uqIZWpzhGNkzBfH5I=w170

[Cherie]

She was on X factor before she shoplift get it right

yes and that is the point that some people are trying to get across, why jeprodise that for an eyeshadow palette.

She has a good voice but I don't find her particularly likeable, she won't win now.

[Samm]

https://lh6.ggpht.com/fxItA5hV2uIDr3HqkvpHYtUMx7Opb3BKa8VJID9R6vZu5Itb7X uqIZWpzhGNkzBfH5I=w170

I win

[Verbal]

I win

Banana milk shake and left over pizza

[jet]

yeah sure let's label her and hold a couple of incidents she's had in her teenage life against her forever, hell why don't we stone the bitch to death, after all she's just 'chavy scum' :rolleyes:

She isn't the only person to have ever shoplifted and she won't be the last either, it's not something that should be held against your name forever because if anything that just leads to more detrimental consequences. She hardly robbed a bank or killed a child, she's apologised, so now let's have some perspective...

I think a lot of teens have shop lifted silly things like sweets and make up - I'd be more concerned about her kicking and punching a girl in a train station. She looks great and sings great - but any kind of violence repels me. I want to vote for her cos she's very talented, but I can't get past the violence.

[Glenn.]

She's going to win this year. She has a remarkable voice. I couldn't care less if she stole some makeup from Boots. Its not going to ruin my life like it is other people.

Move on forget about it, don't let it ruin your day :)

[Black Dagger]

See, this whole 'queen' thing.. she stole from Boots, girl be edgy as ****, no she's an overrated hack and this whole 'we've all done bad things' **** to make it all okay for her.

yeah no bye. (that said she was strong both live shows, but whatever, she's lost now, nobody wants to vote for somebody who beats people up and shoplifts in the long run)

[Glenn.]

I will vote :idc:

[Kizzy]

I found the whole I go to church thing, I love my nan thing a bit overkill tonight... Alright love, don't milk it too much! :laugh:

[jet]

She's going to win this year. She has a remarkable voice. I couldn't care less if she stole some makeup from Boots. Its not going to ruin my life like it is other people.

Move on forget about it, don't let it ruin your day :)

She has a great voice, there is no disputing that. I hardly think it is ruining anyone's life that she isn't as pure as the driven snow. Get real. :rolleyes:
I couldn't care less if she stole make up from Boots either. I do care that she kicked and punched another girl though. Do you?

[Glenn.]

If I remember rightly the girl she beat up was a racist moron. I don't condone all aspects of violence but I'd say she deserved it.

[Brother Leon]

Of all places though.....Think I have only ever bought Shaving scream and Shampoo from there. :joker:

[jet]

If I remember rightly the girl she beat up was a racist moron. I don't condone all aspects of violence but I'd say she deserved it.

That's the first I heard that the person was racist. But even if that is true, do you really believe that the way to tackle racism is through beating the person up? Seriously? :conf:
Tamera has a great voice, she looks the real deal and she has a great chance of winning. Therefore I won't mind if she wins. But I don't LIKE her personally, because I abhor violence in any shape or form. :shrug:

[Marsh.]

I found the whole I go to church thing, I love my nan thing a bit overkill tonight... Alright love, don't milk it too much! :laugh:

She probably does go to church, to raid the collection tins.

[Glenn.]

That's the first I heard that the person was racist. But even if that is true, do you really believe that the way to tackle racism is through beating the person up? Seriously? :conf:
Tamera has a great voice, she looks the real deal and she has a great chance of winning. Therefore I won't mind if she wins. But I don't LIKE her personally, because I abhor violence in any shape or form. :shrug:

You'll be surprised what a beating can do to someone. I think the girl will think twice about shouting her racist mouth off, so in this case, yes I agree with it.

I judge Tamera on her talent, not what gets reported in the papers who, let's face it, will write what they like which is mostly negative.

Like I said earlier, I couldn't care less what's she's done, I don't know her. All I know is she has a great voice. Something I admire more than what she's done in the past. It's a singing competition after all.

[Marsh.]

It's a singing competition after all.

Yeah, and what a crap one it is too. :laugh:

[Kizzy]

:laugh2:
Yeah, I saw the women in the front row put their bags under their chair when she came on....

[Vicky.]

Oh right. So all the bollocks about changing and such was just that..

Edit. I also don't believe the racist thing at all. Or it would have came out earlier. And would have actually came from Tamera. She said it was drugs messing her up, and that if she ever saw her victim she would apologize. No way would you apologize to a racist bastard tbh

[MrWong]

Mick Jagger - Arrested for assault.
Lil Kim - Arrested for possessing marijuana.
Eminem - Charged with assault and having a concealed weapon.
Paul Mccartney - Arrested in Japan with 8oz of marijuana in his suitcase.
James Brown - Did 3 years for theft when he was a teenager.
John Lennon - Possession of marijuana.
Steven Tyler - Possession of marijuana.
Whitney Houston - Possession of marijuana.
George Michael, 50 Cent, Tupak, the list goes on..


Of course, the moralising, hand-wringing brigade never bought any of these artists records or judged them in any way. Oh no.

[Verbal]

Mick Jagger - Arrested for assault.
Lil Kim - Arrested for possessing marijuana.
Eminem - Charged with assault and having a concealed weapon.
Paul Mccartney - Arrested in Japan with 8oz of marijuana in his suitcase.
James Brown - Did 3 years for theft when he was a teenager.
John Lennon - Possession of marijuana.
Steven Tyler - Possession of marijuana.
Whitney Houston - Possession of marijuana.
George Michael, 50 Cent, Tupak, the list goes on..


Of course, the moralising, hand-wringing brigade never bought any of these artists records or judged them in any way. Oh no.

Not a single one of them was basically begging for a career on national TV every week. They are/were actual artists. People on Xfactor are not.

[Verbal]

Every one of the ones you've listed have also been demonised in the papers in their time because of what they have done. This woman is just current. Stupid argument.

[MrWong]

Not a single one of them was basically begging for a career on national TV every week. They are/were actual artists. People on Xfactor are not.

Oh that's ok then. They were famous, she isn't. :rolleyes:

[Verbal]

Oh that's ok then. They were famous, she isn't. :rolleyes:

She is current, she is on TV every week. The show she is on has internet forums dedicated to it. People are going to discuss the people on that show. Not everybody is going to agree. Not everybody is going to like what other people say.

Sign of the times.

[AnnieK]

Oh that's ok then. They were famous, she isn't. :rolleyes:

No she is, as those artists were, in the public eye and will be judged whether you like it or not. The fact that 3 separate things have now come to light muddies her reputation even more. Can't do the time (in this case bad press and judgements) dont do the crime, simple really.

[MrWong]

She is current, she is on TV every week. The show she is on has internet forums dedicated to it. People are going to discuss the people on that show. Not everybody is going to agree. Not everybody is going to like what other people say.

Sign of the times.

Who gives a ****? You choose to justify the others crimes because they were famous.

Most of the artists I listed were at the height of their fame. On TV. I'm struggling to see your point.

[Verbal]

Who gives a ****? You choose to justify the others crimes because they were famous.

Most of the artists I listed were at the height of their fame. On TV. I'm struggling to see your point.

Who is justifying crime? They've all been slagged and ripped apart on the Internet. Its what happens. Try not to take it to heart you'll give yourself a connery*.



























*intentional

[MrWong]

No she is, as those artists were, in the public eye and will be judged whether you like it or not. The fact that 3 separate things have now come to light muddies her reputation even more. Can't do the time (in this case bad press and judgements) dont do the crime, simple really.

Thankfully a 'muddy reputation' didn't hinder the careers of the artists I mentioned.

I put that down to the hand-wringers being big fat hypocrites.

[MrWong]

Who is justifying crime? They've all been slagged and ripped apart on the Internet. Its what happens. Try not to take it to heart you'll give yourself a connery*.
*intentional

Who's having a 'connery'?

I'm replying to posts. Now stop posting hyperbole. It's unnecessary.

[Samm]

don't try and argue with him Wong he does not like anything.

[Verbal]

don't try and argue with him Wong he does not like anything.

Morning Sam!


http://s4.goodfon.com/wallpaper/previews-middle/124707.jpg

[Verbal]

Who's having a 'connery'?

I'm replying to posts. Now stop posting hyperbole. It's unnecessary.

As I am

[Samm]

Morning Sam!


http://s4.goodfon.com/wallpaper/previews-middle/124707.jpg

:rolleyes:

[Glenn.]

Think we should just leave if now. Looks to me like there's a tad bit of trolling going on.

[Verbal]

Think we should just leave if now. Looks to me like there's a tad bit of trolling going on.

Completely agree, Glenn

[Ammi]

OKAY JACK FINE! I stole some penny sweets from Woolworths when I was a kid.

THERE! ARE YOU HAPPY NOW


...that depends whether you're intending to audition for XFactor....



..seriously, it's the first time I've read this thread..there were some 'Boots' comments in the show's thread last night and I didn't understand them, but now I do...anyway, I don't condone what she's done but it has no bearing on her..(what I feel is extremely good..) talent ...for me, whatever her 'problems' may have been and for what she's done, then it makes me in a way more supportive of her in the show because it will change her life so much...

[Ninastar]

I agree with Verbal. she should be seen as a thief and nothing more.

[Benjamin]

I've taken drugs, hit somebody (they deserved it) and I also shoplifted when I was a teenager (only once or twice). I don't do any of those things now and I can assure you I am not scum of the Earth. We should be basing this comp on their talent not their past (I'm pretty sure most of the acts will have something they are not proud of).

[Marc]

You are though :idc:

[Ninastar]

people say this is a thing she did in the past, but it was only a few months ago surely? I think it takes a hell of a long time for people to mature from things such as stealing/drug taking etc.

how old is this girl? Still a teenager right? Just because she's on a life changing TV show doesn't mean that she's grown up now.

[Marc]

I agree with you there Caitlin, I think this "revelation" will shame her into never doing it again, and the show won't help her mature but will force her to grow up a little faster.

[Verbal]

I've taken drugs, hit somebody (they deserved it) and I also shoplifted when I was a teenager (only once or twice). I don't do any of those things now and I can assure you I am not scum of the Earth. We should be basing this comp on their talent not their past (I'm pretty sure most of the acts will have something they are not proud of).

A lot of people on this thread seem to be taking that attitude. I wonder if they would be saying the same if one was done 3 years ago for mugging an old lady or punching a child in the face.

[Benjamin]

people say this is a thing she did in the past, but it was only a few months ago surely? I think it takes a hell of a long time for people to mature from things such as stealing/drug taking etc.

how old is this girl? Still a teenager right? Just because she's on a life changing TV show doesn't mean that she's grown up now.

My point was (using myself as an example) not everybody who does those things goes on to be a bad person or lead a bad life.

[Glenn.]

A lot of people on this thread seem to be taking that attitude. I wonder if they would be saying the same if one was done 3 years ago for mugging an old lady or punching a child in the face.

But she didn't punch an old lady so your argument is invalid.

[Benjamin]

A lot of people on this thread seem to be taking that attitude. I wonder if they would be saying the same if one was done 3 years ago for mugging an old lady or punching a child in the face.

Those crimes are a lot more serious than petty theft though.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Why would you call a 16 year old girl scum of the earth

[Benjamin]

Verbal it was you earlier saying you cannot compare certain things, well you can't compare what you just said, they are hugely different.

[Ninastar]

My point was (using myself as an example) not everybody who does those things goes on to be a bad person or lead a bad life.

she may not be a bad person in the future, but (this is just my opinion) it makes her a bad person now.

I think stealing shows absolutely no signs of respect. And she's also beaten someone up, right? Clearly, again, there is something wrong there. And she may have been 'racist' but I doubt that very much. She was probably just trying to save her skin there.

I don't mean any offence to you here. I just don't think they should be, in a sense, glorifying the fact that she stole, no matter what it was. they are allowing her to stay on a show and act like she's amazing. I just think it's wrong.

then again, it's things like this that have made me stop watching. Sharon Osborne doesn't help either.

[Ninastar]

Those crimes are a lot more serious than petty theft though.

if she has stolen from a store, what's to say she wouldn't steal something from an old lady with a bag wide open on the bus?

[Ammi]

A lot of people on this thread seem to be taking that attitude. I wonder if they would be saying the same if one was done 3 years ago for mugging an old lady or punching a child in the face.

...I can only really speak for myself..tbh, I don't know I would feel because she didn't do that, so it's hard to say but I do completely understand your point....I think it was Adam in last years BB who had a 'shady past' but he had actively changed his lifestyle and helped others do the same and if he had won, for me he would have been very deserving...it's all very recent for Tamera and I have to believe what she says and that she regrets things and maybe in time and if being on XFactor gives her fame, then she too can help others and even become an 'inspiration' in many ways because she's inspires through personal and real experiences ....and the sort of thing that for many young people can be reality....

[Benjamin]

if she has stolen from a store, what's to say she wouldn't steal something from an old lady with a bag wide open on the bus?

Because not everyone goes on to do that or there would a hell of a lot more muggings on old ladies than there currently is.

[Ammi]

she may not be a bad person in the future, but (this is just my opinion) it makes her a bad person now.

I think stealing shows absolutely no signs of respect. And she's also beaten someone up, right? Clearly, again, there is something wrong there. And she may have been 'racist' but I doubt that very much. She was probably just trying to save her skin there.

I don't mean any offence to you here. I just don't think they should be, in a sense, glorifying the fact that she stole, no matter what it was. they are allowing her to stay on a show and act like she's amazing. I just think it's wrong.

then again, it's things like this that have made me stop watching. Sharon Osborne doesn't help either.



..I do think there's a difference though Caitlin between glorifying and helping someone's life to change or not dismissing them because of the things she did...

[Ninastar]

Because not everyone goes on to do that or there would a hell of a lot more muggings on old ladies than there currently is.

is there even a statistics for number of old lady muggings?

i just don't think there is any way to tell whether she would do it or not. If anything, the only thing we can gather from her stealing is that she can't be trusted. I wouldn't risk leaving her with an old lady who has left her bag open, or in a shop with hardly any security.

again, that's just me.

[Verbal]

People are taking comments made in this thread far too seriously.

[Ninastar]

..I do think there's a difference though Caitlin between glorifying and helping someone's life to change or not dismissing them because of the things she did...

She shouldn't get help though. It's something she should do on her own imo.

[Ammi]

is there even a statistics for number of old lady muggings?

i just don't think there is any way to tell whether she would do it or not. If anything, the only thing we can gather from her stealing is that she can't be trusted. I wouldn't risk leaving her with an old lady who has left her bag open, or in a shop with hardly any security.
again, that's just me.

She shouldn't get help though. It's something she should do on her own imo.


..that's a valid point about being trusted ..I think that if you're arrested/convicted/cautioned etc with something that betrays trust then it does effect certain areas of your life which that would be part of...but being an XFactor contestant or success wouldn't apply....I do understand and respect how you feel but it's so difficult to achieve what she has the talent for 'on your own', which is one of the great things about XFactor....

[Ninastar]

..that's a valid point about being trusted ..I think that if you're arrested/convicted/cautioned etc with something that betrays trust then it does effect certain areas of your life which that would be part of...but being an XFactor contestant or success wouldn't apply....I do understand and respect how you feel but it's so difficult to achieve what she has the talent for 'on your own', which is one of the great things about XFactor....

Yeah, you're right.

It just annoys me how I've seen comments of people saying she's a 'legend' or saying it's not a big deal, because to me it is. It's an awful thing to do and it's just plain wrong. I just feel like some people here don't think stealing is a bad thing and it's something everyone does once in their life.

[MrWong]

...I can only really speak for myself..tbh, I don't know I would feel because she didn't do that, so it's hard to say but I do completely understand your point....I think it was Adam in last years BB who had a 'shady past' but he had actively changed his lifestyle and helped others do the same and if he had won, for me he would have been very deserving...it's all very recent for Tamera and I have to believe what she says and that she regrets things and maybe in time and if being on XFactor gives her fame, then she too can help others and even become an 'inspiration' in many ways because she's inspires through personal and real experiences ....and the sort of thing that for many young people can be reality....

Better that than to be labeled chav scum and consigned to the scrap heap.

[Jack_]

I agree with Verbal. she should be seen as a thief and nothing more.

But you do realise that labelling someone as a criminal and wanting to hold it against their name for the rest of their life actually has more detrimental consequences than if you let them face the punishment for what they did and then let them start with a clean slate? What you're suggesting would mean she's chastised for the rest of her life, struggles to find a job and would inevitably return to shoplifting to fend for herself. If you don't give criminals a fresh start once they've served their punishment, and wish to label them forever, they will end up returning to a life of crime since that's the only thing they're ever going to be seen as.

[Ninastar]

But you do realise that labelling someone as a criminal and wanting to hold it against their name for the rest of their life actually has more detrimental consequences than if you let them face the punishment for what they did and then let them start with a clean slate? What you're suggesting would mean she's chastised for the rest of her life, struggles to find a job and would inevitably return to shoplifting to fend for herself. If you don't give criminals a fresh start once they've served their punishment, and wish to label them forever, they will end up returning to a life of crime since that's the only thing they're ever going to be seen as.

If you read what I later posted, I said that I believe that being a thief makes her a bad person now. Maybe she will become a better person in the future, but as of right now, she is nothing more than a thief in my eyes.

[Verbal]

But you do realise that labelling someone as a criminal and wanting to hold it against their name for the rest of their life actually has more detrimental consequences than if you let them face the punishment for what they did and then let them start with a clean slate? What you're suggesting would mean she's chastised for the rest of her life, struggles to find a job and would inevitably return to shoplifting to fend for herself. If you don't give criminals a fresh start once they've served their punishment, and wish to label them forever, they will end up returning to a life of crime since that's the only thing they're ever going to be seen as.

I said that she should be kicked out of the show not labelled for life. Nobody with a criminal record should be allowed on these things in the first place.

[Ninastar]

I said that she should be kicked out of the show not labelled for life. Nobody with a criminal record should be allowed on these things in the first place.

i agree with this

[Glenn.]

I said that she should be kicked out of the show not labelled for life. Nobody with a criminal record should be allowed on these things in the first place.

That's completely ridiculous.

She only has a caution :laugh2:

[Verbal]

That's completely ridiculous.

She only has a caution :laugh2:

Its quite clear, as is evident in this thread that it is giving young people the impression that its 'nothing'. She committed a crime, as a result of committing that crime she should have had to forfeit any right she had to engage in such a competition.
At least for a set amount of time.

[Jordan.]

Well she isn't getting kicked out so get over it

[Kizzy]

The competition isn't over yet is it... Let's hope she keeps her nose clean eh?

[icecakes]

I said that she should be kicked out of the show not labelled for life. Nobody with a criminal record should be allowed on these things in the first place.

I agree verbal, rough copy should be kicked out as well

[Kizzy]

It was odd one couldn't go to the US, doesn't that usually indicate drug offences?
How will that be workable if they do win? :conf:

[Marsh.]

And Salman, please stop sending me intimidating messages. Thanks.

:laugh2:

This is ridiculous...girls who don't fit the 'indie' or 'Adele' stereotype are torn to pieces by the press and made out to be complete monsters.

It's horrible.

Yeah, poor thieves being exposed as such. What have they done to warrant that?

[Kizzy]

Someone wasn't very thorough in their housekeeping... :joker:

[Toy Soldier]

I said that she should be kicked out of the show not labelled for life. Nobody with a criminal record should be allowed on these things in the first place.

She doesn't have a criminal record, she wasn't prosecuted for the theft and I think was only cautioned for the "assault" (which, let's face it, sounds like little more than a teenage cat-fight).

[Verbal]

She doesn't have a criminal record, she wasn't prosecuted for the theft and I think was only cautioned for the "assault" (which, let's face it, sounds like little more than a teenage cat-fight).

This has been unlocked?:joker: Ok which one of the mods is sleeping with one of the catty crew aka Jordan, SamP & the other one that keeps leaving messages for me?

[Toy Soldier]

It was odd one couldn't go to the US, doesn't that usually indicate drug offences?
How will that be workable if they do win? :conf:

The US are very strict in drugs, it was indeed probably a minor drugs offense (possession of class B [cannabis] most likely), which is hardly crime of the century, who hasn't smoked a little weed in their youth? But anyway... The answer is, if they win, they will be "celebrities" and so the US will almost certainly grant him a Visa as an exception. Celebrities are "special", didn't you know, and don't have to follow the same rules as us mere mortals. Lots of celebs have records with assaults and minor drugs charges and yet magically seem to be immune from Visa restrictions.

[Samm]

This has been unlocked?:joker: Ok which one of the mods is sleeping with one of the catty crew aka Jordan, SamP & the other one that keeps leaving messages for me?

The chatty crew wtf :joker:

[Verbal]

The chatty crew wtf :joker:

You know exactly what I mean Sammy boy, you're like a parody of a bad prison gang

[Samm]

You know exactly what I mean Sammy boy, you're like a parody of a bad prison gang

Don't call me Sammy boy

[Verbal]

Don't call me Sammy boy

Oh ok

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[Samm]

Oh ok

MSHaCzb3yYk

I have better things to do then argue with you bye xxx

[Glenn.]

Why was this opened?

[Kizzy]

because it's a contemporary issue, we want squeaky clean contestants not criminals.

[Vicky.]

I dont think criminal records matter too much in general..especially if it was ages ago and not a serious offense (eg smoking pot, bar fight)

But if the activity is still going on while the show is being filmed, theres a problem

[Jack_]

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can we just get married already :lovedup:

[Ammi]

..however she does in the competition, I think this will have turned her life around anyway and I hope the media/public will let her to put all the bad stuff behind her...