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arista
15-11-2013, 10:14 PM
[Princess Anne says we should
eat Horse meat... for the sake
of animal welfare
Royal spoke at World Horse
Welfare charity conference
Said owners may take better
care of horses when alive if
they thought they'd later sell them for meat]
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2507395/Princess-Anne-says-SHOULD-eating-horse-meat--sake-animal-welfare.html#ixzz2kl7930Q5
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Set Up a Horse Burger Chain
Vanessa
15-11-2013, 10:15 PM
:conf2: No thank you!
joeysteele
15-11-2013, 10:15 PM
She is entitled to her opinion even when she is wrong as she is on this,for me anyway.
Kazanne
15-11-2013, 10:18 PM
The animals we raise for meat now are treated appallingly as it is, without adding more to the list,I can understand her point though,but people cant be trusted with treating animals properly.
cheeky_monkey
15-11-2013, 10:22 PM
Ewww even if I did eat meat I would never eat horse meat. :yuk:
Nemo123
15-11-2013, 10:32 PM
Anne and all the horsey half-breed relatives are on the menu then.
erinp5
15-11-2013, 10:38 PM
Clown of a woman .
So.. It's alright to eat a cow but amazingly disgusting to eat a horse? :idc:
Nemo123
15-11-2013, 10:41 PM
So.. It's alright to eat a cow but amazingly disgusting to eat a horse? :idc:
It is disgusting when you are told it's beef!
Livia
15-11-2013, 10:43 PM
Princess Anne did not say we should eat horse meat. She said there should be some kind of debate about it because it could help ease the terrible welfare record we have with horses in this country. The same restrictions do not cover them that cover animals raised for meat.
But obviously, if you think she shouldn't have said anything simply she comes from a privileged background and doesn't look what people consider to be perfect despite the fact she knows more about horses than most... then that's your call.
It is disgusting when you are told it's beef!
I have to agree with that.
I don't really get the mass aversion to eating horse meat.. We'll quite happily eat cows, pigs, sheep, lambs, deer, rabbits, fish, chickens, ducks, pigeon etc etc, but we are disgusted at the thought of eating a horse??
I've not personally tried horse, but apparently a horse steak is delicious.
Nemo123
15-11-2013, 10:48 PM
Princess Anne did not say we should eat horse meat. She said there should be some kind of debate about it because it could help ease the terrible welfare record we have with horses in this country. The same restrictions do not cover them that cover animals raised for meat.
But obviously, if you think she shouldn't have said anything simply she comes from a privileged background and doesn't look what people consider to be perfect despite the fact she knows more about horses than most... then that's your call.
I'm not aware of any welfare that other livestock are treated with. They are all treated terribly.
Livia
15-11-2013, 10:49 PM
I'm not aware of any welfare that other livestock are treated with. They are all treated terribly.
Then you might want to make yourself aware before you continue the discussion.
Nemo123
15-11-2013, 10:49 PM
I don't really get the mass aversion to eating horse meat.. We'll quite happily eat cows, pigs, sheep, lambs, deer, rabbits, fish, chickens, ducks, pigeon etc etc, but we are disgusted at the thought of eating a horse??
I've not personally tried horse, but apparently a horse steak is delicious.
From what I've been told it's as leathery as old boots.
smeagol
15-11-2013, 10:51 PM
gives me the trotts
smudgie
15-11-2013, 10:51 PM
We have happy sheep around here.
They have the freedom of the moors and some Dales.
The cows look pretty happy as well.:hugesmile:
Nemo123
15-11-2013, 10:52 PM
Then you might want to make yourself aware before you continue the discussion.
This being a BB site, I am aware of what Germaine Greer said about it. She said livestock was treated awfully. And she was an unapologetic carnivore.
gives me the trotts
I don't know whether to laugh or not
Nemo123
15-11-2013, 10:54 PM
gives me the trotts
I've never seen anything other than a curious cow. They endure their misery stoically.
smudgie
15-11-2013, 10:56 PM
I've never seen anything other than a curious cow. They endure their misery stoically.
Ah, well I live in Herriot country, we look after cows up here.:hugesmile:
Livia
15-11-2013, 10:59 PM
This being a BB site, I am aware of what Germaine Greer said about it. She said livestock was treated awfully. And she was an unapologetic carnivore.
I am aware that is a BB site. What's your point?
Germaine Greer says a lot of things. I'm not sure that I agree with all of them.
If you believe that all livestock are treated appallingly then there's not much I can say to change your mind, as you seem to have put the shutters up. The truth is there's always room for improvement and there are always exceptions to any rule. However, standards have risen in the last few decades, and they continue to rise because people are demanding more ethically raised and slaughtered animals. Believe me... don't believe it... it's all the same to me.
Kazanne
15-11-2013, 11:00 PM
As a veggie I don't have to worry about eating meat,but I still worry about their welfare some horrific stories come to light sometimes,I don't think any animal should be treated badly even if it is for the food market.Just treat them well and slaughter them humanely,that's all
Nemo123
15-11-2013, 11:06 PM
People can turn a blind eye to cruelty when they are conditioned to look upon animals as livestock and food. They are treated like livestock, and subjected to neglect and outright cruelty, the kind of cruelty that would cost their owners huge fines and prison terms if the animals were dogs or cats or horses even.
Nemo123
15-11-2013, 11:09 PM
Germaine Greer's argument was that she would not or could not subscribe to crusaing against animal cruelty, because she'd seen too much cruelt with farm animals. She'd given up the ghost, and was not going to become a hypocrite defending cats and dogs when she'd seen abuse, neglect and cruelty done to farm animals.
Livia
15-11-2013, 11:12 PM
People can turn a blind eye to cruelty when they are conditioned to look upon animals as livestock and food. They are treated like livestock, and subjected to neglect and outright cruelty, the kind of cruelty that would cost their owners huge fines and prison terms if the animals were dogs or cats or horses even.
The reason that Princess Anne made her comments is that horses are not covered by the same legislation as livestock. That was the whole point!
You think all farmers are cruel? And you believe there is no legislation in place to minimise this? And that there are no consequences when these cases are brought to light? There are consequences including fines and imprisonment. No one's turning a blind eye, and having someone in the public eye try to start a debate is a good thing.
smudgie
15-11-2013, 11:15 PM
As a veggie I don't have to worry about eating meat,but I still worry about their welfare some horrific stories come to light sometimes,I don't think any animal should be treated badly even if it is for the food market.Just treat them well and slaughter them humanely,that's all
I eat meat Kaz, but I do try and find out where it is from.
I want to eat happy meat. Pork has to be outdoor bred, free range chickens etc.
Pay a bit more but just eat a bit less of it.
The least we can do if we are going to eat it is give it a happy life.
Kazanne
15-11-2013, 11:21 PM
I eat meat Kaz, but I do try and find out where it is from.
I want to eat happy meat. Pork has to be outdoor bred, free range chickens etc.
Pay a bit more but just eat a bit less of it.
The least we can do if we are going to eat it is give it a happy life.
I am not against meat eaters smudgie and I agree that as long as they have been treated well there is nothing wrong with it,it's just when you read those awful stories of them being beaten and having wicked things done to them,that makes me angry as there is just no need for it,If only more people were like you smudgie:hugesmile:
Nemo123
15-11-2013, 11:21 PM
The reason that Princess Anne made her comments is that horses are not covered by the same legislation as livestock. That was the whole point!
You think all farmers are cruel? And you believe there is no legislation in place to minimise this? And that there are no consequences when these cases are brought to light? There are consequences including fines and imprisonment. No one's turning a blind eye, and having someone in the public eye try to start a debate is a good thing.
I have absolutely NO IDEA why Princess Anne chose to make the comments she made. Unless she was on an earner from Lord Tesco, and was trying to retrospectively redeem Tesco's sullied reputation.
Livia
15-11-2013, 11:23 PM
I have absolutely NO IDEA why Princess Anne chose to make the comments she made. Unless she was on an earner from Lord Tesco, and was trying to retrospectively redeem Tesco's sullied reputation.
No, you really do have no idea.
Pointless.
Ignore.
Nemo123
15-11-2013, 11:28 PM
No, you really do have no idea.
Pointless.
Ignore.
So, what's your case for the welfare of the horse?
You want to introduce horse meat into the English diet, and by doing that improve the welfare of horses. If you succeeded all you'd get would be horses bread in England for meat.
reece(:
15-11-2013, 11:34 PM
gives me the trotts
:laugh3:
DDRickyDD
16-11-2013, 04:28 PM
Disgusting. It's comments like this that we've come to expect from the pampered, out of touch Royal Family.
anne666
16-11-2013, 09:18 PM
How does her proposal reduce cruelty to horses? That is my issue here. Her mother has cleaned up her act with her retired race hoses after being exposed. Will this weird idea of hers suddenly make the rest follow suit? I doubt it. Just what exactly does she mean? Livestock in the food market are abused. I've been around farmers long enough to know that.
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