If (when) Sam B wins how will she be marketed?

[alex_front2]

Sam is a perfectly respectable married mum of two kids. When she wins - safe assumption imo - how will she be marketed in media and get publicity as unlike other popstar singing mums Pink , Xtina Lily Allen etc she was never in spotlight single or childless having wild antics.

In a world of Miley, Rihanna and whipprtsnappers like Lorde, how will Sam b get column inches as having a good voices isn't enough.

[newsbb]

with an old colvers album of curse, which will prob sell tons, but thats it.

[Natalie.]

I hope her album covers her behind bars with a mic lol

[Samm]

I hope so

[Vanessa]

Sorry, but i don't want to buy a cover album. I want original songs. :nono:

[thesheriff443]

she will sell a couple of albums to old people.

[Cherie]

they managed it with Susan Boyle and Paul Potts neither of whom had any sex appeal.

I saw some headline on one of the Sunday papers about how she has put the Xfactor back into her love life, :yuk: personally I think that sort of publicity would be all wrong for her and if she goes down that route she will sink like a stone.

[Kate!]

If she wins she'll flop IMO. Yeah she's got a great voice but not the elusive X factor. Only Tamera and Rough Copy from the remaining acts have it. Any of the others will sink without trace.

[Vanessa]

If she wins she'll flop IMO. Yeah she's got a great voice but not the elusive X factor. Only Tamera and Rough Copy from the remaining acts have it. Any of the others will sink without trace.

I think Luke has a chance. He already has a profile in Heat mag. Nice work! ;)

[Brother Leon]

Syco will sign Tamera and focus more on her. Some other label will sign RC and they will do ok. Apart from that none of these people will be around by next series IMO.

[Vanessa]

Syco will sign Tamera and focus more on her. Some other label will sign RC and they will do ok. Apart from that none of these people will be around by next series IMO.

It's up to them really. Some of them have potential, but they'll need to work hard.

[alex_front2]

I think biggest acts will be Tamera and RC. Sam B will have limited success as winner. Nick will briefly do ok with covers and luke will be like rebecca ferguson or cher.

[Black Dagger]

Cover album and then history.

There is a big difference with thinking somebody is an incredible talent on the show and buying their music. Look at Michelle McManus.

[Vanessa]

I think biggest acts will be Tamera and RC. Sam B will have limited success as winner. Nick will briefly do ok with covers and luke will be like rebecca ferguson or cher.

Heat mag already love Luke. :hugesmile:

[Jemal]

Tamera and RC will defo get signed thats why I'm not really fussed if they don't win.
Union J came fourth last year, but look at them now. Arguagbly been more successful than James Arthur. But you wouldn't think that if you only look at chart stats tho.
But they've done really good. So yeah.

I can only see tamera and RC getting signed.

[Tom4784]

A quick Mother's day covers album and possibly a Christmas album before she gets dropped.

[Tom4784]

I think Luke has a chance. He already has a profile in Heat mag. Nice work! ;)

Luke doesn't have a hope in hell. He's ruined any marketability he had by auditioning for the XF, he doesn't have the credibility to be taken seriously in the indie and rock scenes and he doesn't have the presence to be a Top 40 botherer. He's just another flop faux rocker waiting to happen.

[Vanessa]

Luke doesn't have a hope in hell. He's ruined any marketability he had by auditioning for the XF, he doesn't have the credibility to be taken seriously in the indie and rock scenes and he doesn't have the presence to be a Top 40 botherer. He's just another flop faux rocker waiting to happen.

Like i said, it's all up to him. :)

[Tom4784]

It's not though, he's ruined any chance of a career by doing X Factor. That's the long and short of it.

[Jemal]

Luke doesn't have a hope in hell. He's ruined any marketability he had by auditioning for the XF, he doesn't have the credibility to be taken seriously in the indie and rock scenes and he doesn't have the presence to be a Top 40 botherer. He's just another flop faux rocker waiting to happen.

I used to like luke, but now hes performance just keep on declining bit by bit.
He was a darkhorse early on but now he should be the one who is out next.

And i agree with that paragraph.

[Vanessa]

It's not though, he's ruined any chance of a career by doing X Factor. That's the long and short of it.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

[Mystic Mock]

She'll be marketed as a Susan Boyle/Shirley Bassey, but the difference is that Sam Bailey doesn't have an exceptional voice or a particular style in the way she performs so she will more than likely flop.

The only one that will flop harder than Sam Bailey in the charts is Nicholas.

[Jordan.]

promoting her cover album on the loose women panel

[Mystic Mock]

And imo the only way Luke will have a serious career is if he makes the final now as TXF ruins the alternative acts name when they audition for The X Factor.

[Vanessa]

Tamera and RC will defo get signed thats why I'm not really fussed if they don't win.
Union J came fourth last year, but look at them now. Arguagbly been more successful than James Arthur. But you wouldn't think that if you only look at chart stats tho.
But they've done really good. So yeah.

I can only see tamera and RC getting signed.

It's all a matter of opinion. I used to like Rough Copy before, but their singing is really poor now. Even though they're nice guys. :)

[Vanessa]

And imo the only way Luke will have a serious career is if he makes the final now as TXF ruins the alternative acts name when they audition for The X Factor.

I'm sure he will make it sooner or later.

[Gstar]

Cover album definitely, but I would like to hear original songs by her.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm sure he will make it sooner or later.

I hope you're right Vanessa, it's just TXF has had a past history of ruining alternative acts chances to go far in the Music industry because of how they had them perform on the show itself, and Moondance might be a performance the public will never forget.

And Rough Copy will flop hard if they released Music because the JLS fans will laugh them off for trying to be like them for starters, then the fact that the teen girls have their One Direction's and The Wanted's of this world.

[Vanessa]

I hope you're right Vanessa, it's just TXF has had a past history of ruining alternative acts chances to go far in the Music industry because of how they had them perform on the show itself, and Moondance might be a performance the public will never forget.

And Rough Copy will flop hard if they released Music because the JLS fans will laugh them off for trying to be like them for starters, then the fact that the teen girls have their One Direction's and The Wanted's of this world.

Moondance had quite a positive reaction. Oddly enough, it was last week that it was negative. But his singing was good. Weird! :shrug:

[Mystic Mock]

Moondance had quite a positive reaction. Oddly enough, it was last week that it was negative. But his singing was good. Weird! :shrug:

I liked last week as well, I think he was only in there because he had been stuck on early three weeks in a row which no one can survive unless you have a whole country on your side, or been stuck on last about three times before being stuck on early for a few weeks.

[Vanessa]

I liked last week as well, I think he was only in there because he had been stuck on early three weeks in a row which no one can survive unless you have a whole country on your side, or been stuck on last about three times before being stuck on early for a few weeks.

I'm so pissed off about that! He better not be on early this week. :mad:

[Gstar]

I hope you're right Vanessa, it's just TXF has had a past history of ruining alternative acts chances to go far in the Music industry because of how they had them perform on the show itself, and Moondance might be a performance the public will never forget.

And Rough Copy will flop hard if they released Music because the JLS fans will laugh them off for trying to be like them for starters, then the fact that the teen girls have their One Direction's and The Wanted's of this world.

I'll be fuming if anyone was stupid enough to compare Rough Copy to JLS. Anything JLS has done Rough Copy can do better (sing, dance, stage presence). Also I think Rough Copy will be doing more R&B music whereas JLS did pure pop so there's no possible way they can be compared other than their links to X Factor or of course their skin colour.

[joeysteele]

I don't see a long future chartwise for Sam Bailey, she has a really good,strong voice but in the main she will really likely sell her debut album then fade and I feel fade likely very quickly too.

I would expect Sam B's debut album to be songs that were classed her best on the X Factor, I have no problem with covers on albums,I like to compare other versions of songs but for me, Sam B does nothing with the songs, she just sings them as they were originally done.

I also though, don't even see her winning X Factor anyway,the acts are going to be getting less and less over the next 2 weeks and I simply cannot see at all, (of all the acts still left with her), where the people voting for those acts once they are gone will then vote for Sam Bailey.

[Vanessa]

I don't see a long future chartwise for Sam Bailey, she has a really good,strong voice but in the main she will really likely sell her debut album then fade and I feel fade likely very quickly too.

I would expect Sam B's debut album to be songs that were classed her best on the X Factor, I have no problem with covers on albums,I like to compare other versions of songs but for me, Sam B does nothing with the songs, she just sings them as they were originally done.

I also though, don't even see her winning X Factor anyway,the acts are going to be getting less and less over the next 2 weeks and I simply cannot see at all, (of all the acts still left with her), where the people voting for those acts once they are gone will then vote for Sam Bailey.

I don't know. If Susan Boyle can do it, so can Sam and she has a much better voice. :hugesmile:

[joeysteele]

I don't know. If Susan Boyle can do it, so can Sam and she has a much better voice. :hugesmile:

Susan Boyle though has a likely totally different audience Vanessa.
She came from BGT and I know lots of people who watch that but not X Factor.

Susan Boyle was just there at the right time and didn't have to compete week after week.
She has an older audience and I don't mean that offensively to her, but she has somehow struck a chord with enough of that audience to secure regular chart success BY them buying her albums,much as Daniel O'Donnell has.

X Factor is supposed to be looking at presenting one of the next big International hit making machines and I don't see Sam Bailey as that I'm afraid.
If she does win it,she will have the investment from the deal initially, once she fails to make the top 10 with anything, then she will be dropped.

If she doesn't win then I can even doubt, outside of her debut album, that she will even likely get started really.
She'll make a good living for a time out of it but I just cannot see massive things for her myself.

[Vanessa]

Susan Boyle though has a likely totally different audience Vanessa.
She came from BGT and I know lots of people who watch that but not X Factor.

Susan Boyle was just there at the right time and didn't have to compete week after week.
She has an older audience and I don't mean that offensively to her, but she has somehow struck a chord with enough of that audience to secure regular chart success BY them buying her albums,much as Daniel O'Donnell has.

X Factor is supposed to be looking at presenting one of the next big International hit making machines and I don't see Sam Bailey as that I'm afraid.
If she does win it,she will have the investment from the deal initially, once she fails to make the top 10 with anything, then she will be dropped.

If she doesn't win then I can even doubt, outside of her debut album, that she will even likely get started really.
She'll make a good living for a time out of it but I just cannot see massive things for her myself.

I think it depends. If she makes a good fist album it will be a good start. :love:

[Jemal]

lol at someone comparing rough copy to jls.
I would think cause their black aswell.
And with kingsland road (even tho i hate them)
Get compared to 1D/UnionJ. Boybands can't win anymore lol.

[alex_front2]

BGT is indeed a different beast to XF.

Susan Boyle wouldn't work on XF and would have left in week 6, but Bgt is a quick turn around.

[Vanessa]

BGT is indeed a different beast to XF.

Susan Boyle wouldn't work on XF and would have left in week 6, but Bgt is a quick turn around.

That's true. I still hope she makes it. I like Sam Baily. I would buy her album if it was a good one. :hugesmile:

[alex_front2]

Also SuBo had her much watched audition, backstory and mental health issues. Sam B is just a competent singing mother of 2. The media goes on and on about being a prison officer as there is nothing else to write about her.

[Mystic Mock]

I'll be fuming if anyone was stupid enough to compare Rough Copy to JLS. Anything JLS has done Rough Copy can do better (sing, dance, stage presence). Also I think Rough Copy will be doing more R&B music whereas JLS did pure pop so there's no possible way they can be compared other than their links to X Factor or of course their skin colour.

Trust me TXF will market Rough Copy as a JLS replacement, and as we all know the most racist people on TV is the producers of these shows.

[Vanessa]

Trust me TXF will market Rough Copy as a JLS replacement, and as we all know the most racist people on TV is the producers of these shows.

I think Rough Copy could be the new JLS. There's potential there.

[alex_front2]

Trust me TXF will market Rough Copy as a JLS replacement, and as we all know the most racist people on TV is the producers of these shows.

Exactly. Never forget when JLS were contestants in 2008 series the name captions on Xtra Factor always got the members mixed up. I think Aston was named as Oritse and JB as Melvin :devil:.

Also there is always a 'disquiet' a sense of why are you singing this when a black act singers a song that's either not urban (e.g RnB/ soul/ hip hop). So people like Caroline Flack always asks RC 'when will you do an urban song?' even if the theme doesn't fit, whereas a white act who can do urban stuff will also be able to do non-urban stuff and noone bats an eye lid

[sassysocks]

she will sell a couple of albums to old people.

She will sell records to plenty of people who appreciate a good voice who also vastly outnumber silly teen girls who only buy records of boys they wish would look at them twice.

[sassysocks]

I don't see a long future chartwise for Sam Bailey, she has a really good,strong voice but in the main she will really likely sell her debut album then fade and I feel fade likely very quickly too.

I would expect Sam B's debut album to be songs that were classed her best on the X Factor, I have no problem with covers on albums,I like to compare other versions of songs but for me, Sam B does nothing with the songs, she just sings them as they were originally done.

I also though, don't even see her winning X Factor anyway,the acts are going to be getting less and less over the next 2 weeks and I simply cannot see at all, (of all the acts still left with her), where the people voting for those acts once they are gone will then vote for Sam Bailey.

What a load of rubbish all this 'is Sam B marketable' garbage is. She may not sell pop songs - but who the hell cares. There are many other types of music where Sam Bailey's remarkable voice would sell. Pop songs are for teenagers and the music industry is much bigger than teenagers.